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Illuminati Rebel Issues Dire Warning, Battle Call

 
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The Illuminati plan to "Nazify" the West by the year 2012 and persecute all believers in God, using the pretext of war, terror and economic collapse.
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Absolute rubbish. There hasn't been any meaningful war since the invasion of Iraq in 2003. There's been no meaningful terror attacks since 911. And finally, they're bending over backwards to prop and support the economy and stock markets.

And we can add a world population explosion to the mix.

So much for the Illuminati "Nazify" plan.
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For a battle, there have to be warriors. Anyone can post on a forum and talk about this subject, but would you put your life on the line for it? Are you prepared to take it right to the wire, meaning the possibility of extinction and/or undending division for the human race? Who are the real fighters on the side of "good"? Is "GOD" the oppressor or the Liberator?

Only when you can answer these questions are you ready for what is to come.
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The Illuminati plan to "Nazify" the West by the year 2012 and persecute all believers in God, using the pretext of war, terror and economic collapse.


Absolute rubbish. There hasn't been any meaningful war since the invasion of Iraq in 2003. There's been no meaningful terror attacks since 911. And finally, they're bending over backwards to prop and support the economy and stock markets.

And we can add a world population explosion to the mix.

So much for the Illuminati "Nazify" plan.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 163934


These are not my words but I was quoting Leo, and for respect of him I am not going to answer anything that he said, you can go to his website or call him directly for any answer to your questions. Indeed I agree with him, even if we may have little but pretty insignificant difference in our point of vue. If you dont see the extreme crisis now lingering in your own country over the war in iraq and the attempt to extend this conflict you are not very well informed.
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If the Illuminati really held the cards of this world - we'd be in Nazi-land everywhere, circa a few moments after the beginning of time. The keys of this planet don't belong to them - they have stolen them and act like they're theirs.

See the Gospel of Judas and the lost letters of Jesus. The answers have always been here. They've just been hidden on purpose from those who really hold the keys.
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For a battle, there have to be warriors. Anyone can post on a forum and talk about this subject, but would you put your life on the line for it? Are you prepared to take it right to the wire, meaning the possibility of extinction and/or undending division for the human race? Who are the real fighters on the side of "good"? Is "GOD" the oppressor or the Liberator?

Only when you can answer these questions are you ready for what is to come.
 Quoting: Random


You should understand that anyone that goes so far as to expose himself like he and many other myself comprised have done not just since today in many different ways, are ready for the real battle.
The fight is all about the good of humanity and in fact against the forced extinction that is planned and is already in prgress, at least of a very good part of it and consecutive enslavement of the rest under a NWO system.

We are not afraid to anything, we have no fear of death.

When you talk of God be sure you are talking about your father the creator of all that is. I wont define him a oppressor, man is the oppressor, who are the fighters? every man of good is, and most of them not even know that they are here just for this big end, and many still are wondering what their role in all this is, while others have found it already. And others have always known it.

Yes we are ready for the real last battle against evil, against the destruction of mankind, and the battle against the creator and the creation that they are fighting more or less silently, but we will not try to save at all cost the ones that don't want to be, as everyone has the right to chose is own destiny.

Now since I dont want to patronize the post that was about Leo, I just tell you can contact him for whatever other doubt or question you have.
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You should understand that anyone that goes so far as to expose himself like he and many other myself comprised have done not just since today in many different ways, are ready for the real battle.
The fight is all about the good of humanity and in fact against the forced extinction that is planned and is already in prgress, at least of a very good part of it and consecutive enslavement of the rest under a NWO system.

We are not afraid to anything, we have no fear of death.

When you talk of God be sure you are talking about your father the creator of all that is. I wont define him a oppressor, man is the oppressor, who are the fighters? every man of good is, and most of them not even know that they are here just for this big end, and many still are wondering what their role in all this is, while others have found it already. And others have always known it.

Yes we are ready for the real last battle against evil, against the destruction of mankind, and the battle against the creator and the creation that they are fighting more or less silently, but we will not try to save at all cost the ones that don't want to be, as everyone has the right to chose is own destiny.

Now since I dont want to patronize the post that was about Leo, I just tell you can contact him for whatever other doubt or question you have.
 Quoting: The Roman


I appreciate this and knew this already, friend: I was more concerned about the actual practicalities of rebellion against the Hidden Powers: for example, they have the power to kill violently almost anyone without exception and without recourse to laws. What practical measures can be taken to defend the righteous? After all, dead people don't save worlds.
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I appreciate this and knew this already, friend: I was more concerned about the actual practicalities of rebellion against the Hidden Powers: for example, they have the power to kill violently almost anyone without exception and without recourse to laws. What practical measures can be taken to defend the righteous? After all, dead people don't save worlds.
 Quoting: Random


You are right Random, but be sure that we are not just kids playing with things bigger than them :), and we also have brothers and friends in high places and in many places that are with us, and as we speak more and more are joining, we have our cover, we know how to defend ourselves both from traditional warfare and from black magic and other forms of psychotronic warfare praticed by the enmy. Yes we can die, and some have and will, but we accepted this fact as inevitable. Our life is all about this, there is no reason to run from the very reason you are there from the beginning.

Be the truth, in life, be your light always, and never fear an illusion which is death.
Matter is light. Energy is light. We are all light beings.

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You are right Random, but be sure that we are not just kids playing with things bigger than them :), and we also have brothers and friends in high places and in many places that are with us, and as we speak more and more are joining, we have our cover, we know how to defend ourselves both from traditional warfare and from black magic and other forms of psychotronic warfare praticed by the enmy. Yes we can die, and some have and will, but we accepted this fact as inevitable. Our life is all about this, there is no reason to run from the very reason you are there from the beginning.

Be the truth, in life, be your light always, and never fear an illusion which is death.
 Quoting: The Roman


Thank you, I shall not fear it.
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Hello,

I would like to invite you to join the fight against N.W.O.

[link to www.jahtruth.net]

Thank you.
 Quoting: JEsus DIsciple 178624


Thank you.
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Leo Zagami is a fraudster.
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You wil meet your end by blind friend.

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"The cosmic alignment on the 21st of December 2012 gives you 6 years to prepare... So its about time you all wake up and fight for your right to stay free under one God before they take complete control and start persecuting the true believers in the one God. …Get your swords and get ready to fight to defend your faith or perish…This is a war against Satan so please wake up in the western countries or you might wake up in a nightmare one morning in December 2012."

 Quoting: The Roman


Is this Zagami really a 33th degree mason at 36? Went up the ladder really fast. But he's one of them so he probably jumped a few rungs or was born at 20th degree, so ok yeah no problem with that.
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What's a Zagami? Is that something like a Zamboni?
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I'm prone to believing all of this, and my gut tells me something will happen someday soon.

But doesn't it bother you that the doom dates pass uneventful and nobody seems to question it? Then the next one comes up, passes and nothing. When are we going to pass under this archway to doom?

Or is this continual anticipation of what is coming just a misdirection from what is going on today? There are things within our control this very day that are being manipulated further and further away from us.

Where are these so-called fighters who'll oppose Satan, tyrants, and opressors?

Why would they wait until the very day of disaster to show up; while we wait the next six years for doom when there is enough in our own back yards to combat today.
Get your ass to Mars. - Total Recall
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What's a Zagami? Is that something like a Zamboni?
 Quoting: The Monk 178378



no


more like a Greek Salami hi
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How trust worthy is a "former" Black magician?

Anton LaVey's beardo (founder of the Church of Satan) is on tour d'seduction again... compare they're beards:

Leo Zagami: [link to www.savethemales.ca]
Anton LaVey: [link to aes-nihil.com]

Be aware: the black order is already desperate enough to choose pro-activity... how nice of em... straight into sun light... just separate your daily wheat from chaff... smile

I wish you all Love, Wisdom and Truth of Eternity on our very special and super interesting journey...

Best wishes from Switzerland

lwwb
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"The cosmic alignment on the 21st of December 2012 gives you 6 years to prepare... So its about time you all wake up and fight for your right to stay free under one God before they take complete control and start persecuting the true believers in the one God. …Get your swords and get ready to fight to defend your faith or perish…This is a war against Satan so please wake up in the western countries or you might wake up in a nightmare one morning in December 2012."



Is this Zagami really a 33th degree mason at 36? Went up the ladder really fast. But he's one of them so he probably jumped a few rungs or was born at 20th degree, so ok yeah no problem with that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 178684


I understand but what someone that has only Internet as his own disposal can do more than just posting this and many articles and photo to prove that he is real?
Sure thing you will not see him on the public media ehe.

slide down and see the photo of the masosic patents

[link to www.illuminaticonfessions.webfriend.it]

There you can read 33°/90°/95°

He is obviusly in the middle of a big campaign of discredit, but he told me he never doubted they would do this, these discredits are mainly promoted by the satanic order of the O.T.O. founded by well known satanist A. Crowley everyone know this, which obviusly because he is one of the main targets of Leo. OTO infiltrated freemasonry and many obediences in the past 50 years, and like a secret agency do in foreign governments started to subvert them once penetrated from the inside.

Now do you think people like the ones that gatered to the last Roman meeting of wich one was also a member of the italian nobilty and Gran Master of the Templar Order (the one that initiate members still to this date inside the Roman Pantheon..) which site is www.rextemplar.it order would have to do with him if he was fake?

Remember also that Leo mother is a Lyon...yes that one Lyon from the British Royal family.

That's why his full name is Leo Lyon Zagami.

So, the discredit is normal and totally preventivated move against him, if he was not what he is he would be already in prison or worst.

I understand that many interesting part of his site are still in italian but before to judge anybody should really read all the documents he has exposed.
Next move they will try probably is the fabrication of some documents against him...and the battle will go on. eh.

Anyway darkness never fight with honesty but with lies :)
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How trust worthy is a "former" Black magician?

Best wishes from Switzerland

lwwb
Roger
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Well...man changes you know? :)
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How trust worthy is a "former" Black magician?

Best wishes from Switzerland

lwwb
Roger



Well...man changes you know? :)
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Hopefully... I wish him all Love, Wisdom and Truth of Eternity, that he leads us to the Kingdom of God and His Righteousness...

Best wishes from Switzerland

lwwb
Roger
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"The cosmic alignment on the 21st of December 2012 gives you 6 years to prepare... So its about time you all wake up and fight for your right to stay free under one God before they take complete control and start persecuting the true believers in the one God. …Get your swords and get ready to fight to defend your faith or perish…This is a war against Satan so please wake up in the western countries or you might wake up in a nightmare one morning in December 2012."



Is this Zagami really a 33th degree mason at 36? Went up the ladder really fast. But he's one of them so he probably jumped a few rungs or was born at 20th degree, so ok yeah no problem with that.


I understand but what someone that has only Internet as his own disposal can do more than just posting this and many articles and photo to prove that he is real?
Sure thing you will not see him on the public media ehe.

slide down and see the photo of the masosic patents

[link to www.illuminaticonfessions.webfriend.it]

There you can read 33°/90°/95°

He is obviusly in the middle of a big campaign of discredit, but he told me he never doubted they would do this, these discredits are mainly promoted by the satanic order of the O.T.O. founded by well known satanist A. Crowley everyone know this, which obviusly because he is one of the main targets of Leo. OTO infiltrated freemasonry and many obediences in the past 50 years, and like a secret agency do in foreign governments started to subvert them once penetrated from the inside.

Now do you think people like the ones that gatered to the last Roman meeting of wich one was also a member of the italian nobilty and Gran Master of the Templar Order (the one that initiate members still to this date inside the Roman Pantheon..) which site is www.rextemplar.it order would have to do with him if he was fake?

Remember also that Leo mother is a Lyon...yes that one Lyon from the British Royal family.

That's why his full name is Leo Lyon Zagami.

So, the discredit is normal and totally preventivated move against him, if he was not what he is he would be already in prison or worst.

I understand that many interesting part of his site are still in italian but before to judge anybody should really read all the documents he has exposed.
Next move they will try probably is the fabrication of some documents against him...and the battle will go on. eh.

Anyway darkness never fight with honesty but with lies :)
 Quoting: The Roman 176977


Dear Roman

I wish you too all Love, Wisdom and Truth of Eternity...

Best wishes from Switzerland

lwwb
Roger
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I'm prone to believing all of this, and my gut tells me something will happen someday soon.

But doesn't it bother you that the doom dates pass uneventful and nobody seems to question it? Then the next one comes up, passes and nothing. When are we going to pass under this archway to doom?

Or is this continual anticipation of what is coming just a misdirection from what is going on today? There are things within our control this very day that are being manipulated further and further away from us.

Where are these so-called fighters who'll oppose Satan, tyrants, and opressors?

Why would they wait until the very day of disaster to show up; while we wait the next six years for doom when there is enough in our own back yards to combat today.
 Quoting: Master Exploder



The only and only real date has alway ben only and only 2012, all the rest is pure disinformation and jokes.

But from 2006 the real changes have started to be noticeable, and every year they will become more until 21/12/2012, when everything will assume a different, meaning, Leo believe that problems will not end in 2012 but 7 years later only.
From now until the next decade or so will be well some "interesting" times..
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Ey, The Roman, how cute of you, you're a fine and caring person, you love "former" black magicians?

Me too, i feel empathy and love for 'em, their suffering and loads of karma must be horrible to handle... isnt it?

Best wishes from Switzerland

lwwb
Roger
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"the last idealist in the Illuminati."

so the Illuminati was originaly a good thing, but got currupted, lost its idealism, or was infiltrated?

whats up with that?
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"The cosmic alignment on the 21st of December 2012 gives you 6 years to prepare... So its about time you all wake up and fight for your right to stay free under one God before they take complete control and start persecuting the true believers in the one God. …Get your swords and get ready to fight to defend your faith or perish…This is a war against Satan so please wake up in the western countries or you might wake up in a nightmare one morning in December 2012."



Is this Zagami really a 33th degree mason at 36? Went up the ladder really fast. But he's one of them so he probably jumped a few rungs or was born at 20th degree, so ok yeah no problem with that.


I understand but what someone that has only Internet as his own disposal can do more than just posting this and many articles and photo to prove that he is real?
Sure thing you will not see him on the public media ehe.

slide down and see the photo of the masosic patents

[link to www.illuminaticonfessions.webfriend.it]

There you can read 33°/90°/95°

He is obviusly in the middle of a big campaign of discredit, but he told me he never doubted they would do this, these discredits are mainly promoted by the satanic order of the O.T.O. founded by well known satanist A. Crowley everyone know this, which obviusly because he is one of the main targets of Leo. OTO infiltrated freemasonry and many obediences in the past 50 years, and like a secret agency do in foreign governments started to subvert them once penetrated from the inside.

Now do you think people like the ones that gatered to the last Roman meeting of wich one was also a member of the italian nobilty and Gran Master of the Templar Order (the one that initiate members still to this date inside the Roman Pantheon..) which site is www.rextemplar.it order would have to do with him if he was fake?

Remember also that Leo mother is a Lyon...yes that one Lyon from the British Royal family.

That's why his full name is Leo Lyon Zagami.

So, the discredit is normal and totally preventivated move against him, if he was not what he is he would be already in prison or worst.

I understand that many interesting part of his site are still in italian but before to judge anybody should really read all the documents he has exposed.
Next move they will try probably is the fabrication of some documents against him...and the battle will go on. eh.

Anyway darkness never fight with honesty but with lies :)


Dear Roman

I wish you too all Love, Wisdom and Truth of Eternity...

Best wishes from Switzerland

lwwb
Roger
 Quoting: Solve_et_Coagula



Thanks friend we will all need it.
And salutation to your beautifull country i travelled to it quite a few times in past years and have been in Lugano for vacancy.
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... start to look past the illusion and the disinformation, that last battle is light against darkness, good vs evil, truth vs lies, not like they the NWO puppet masters evil illuminati would like to it to be to destroy mankin(d).
 Quoting: The Roman

Well put, excellently expressed. Agreed: expose the darkness. Whatever is exposed & brought into the light is no longer darkness ... & every sentient being intuitively knows right from wrong.

Thanks Roman.
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Ey, The Roman, how cute of you, you're a fine and caring person, you love "former" black magicians?

Me too, i feel empathy and love for 'em, their suffering and loads of karma must be horrible to handle... isnt it?

Best wishes from Switzerland

lwwb
Roger
 Quoting: Solve_et_Coagula



I have been one miself dear friend, in my late teens early twenties. I was in a Roman Black Magic Circle that's when all started for me...I was stupid, I had lost my path trying to find again my reason to exist in this life which I knew but at that time I started to doubt, and turned on the dark side. Dark side is easier..falling is easy. Many things happened since then and I changed he can change aswell, I believe he has already, when I talked to him the past few times I sensed a good and honest person. He really want to change things.
When you know well the dark side you can fight them two time better, but noneteless is a sin a big one but God can read your heart and know.
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The scion of an ancient Illuminati family, Zagami had a religious conversion (to Islam) last June and rebelled. He'd had enough of the horrifying Satanic, black magic rituals, mind control and torture that was going on inside the lodges, behind closed doors.
 Quoting: The Roman


I usually don't agree with Henry Makow and this article is no different. Maybe he believes in Zagami's story, if the guy exists at all, but would someone explain please how did he run away from the most powerful group on earth and is now allowed to publish information about them? This is highly suspicious.

Then his one-true-god-talk, and the fear of nazification.
First monotheistic religion does not guarantee free citizenry or a non-nazi system. As for the nazis, I understand Makow is Jewish so it's understandable for him to rationalize the Unknown as "the nazis".

Maow and Zagami both must be agents of the elite, or else the wouldn't make such confusing statements neither would they espouse discredited ideologies of the past which caused mankind so much suffering already.
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I'M READY TO DIE AND TRAINING EVERY DAY, SIR!

It's whispered that soon if we all call the tune
Then the piper will lead us to reason
And a new day will dawn for those who stand long
And the forests will echo with laughter
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S et C
Freemasonry is today infested by dark magic and satanism at highest levels the lower levels or degrees do not know what is going on up there, and that why most of them when confronted with this problem deny it, they just dont know or unfortunatly dont care.

We need to restore the order that have been polluted only by evil, and bring back the gnostic teachings has the spirit and aim of it.

I have never been involved like Leo has to black magic, not at these levels also because i left my circle before it was gettin to ugly and started to learn the gnostic teachings and doctrine of the Rosicrucian order so my switch out of satanism has been much earlier than his own..but noneteless I understand that these people these satanist and black magicians are really involved in very ugly pratices but only at the highest levels.
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"the last idealist in the Illuminati."

so the Illuminati was originaly a good thing, but got currupted, lost its idealism, or was infiltrated?

whats up with that?
 Quoting: bevo 178503



Yes, in fact the therm Illuminati is what identify the dark side of the freemasonry in general, and this is a relatively recent thing, in fact this term is of recent nature aswell.

Infiltrated? sure thing, infiltrate by satanism from both the Crowley founded OTO and the jesuits. Also a note deserve the zionistic ingerences...

Idealism? also...most is gone in the past century or so, replaced mostly by hopportunism..
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Ey, The Roman, how cute of you, you're a fine and caring person, you love "former" black magicians?

Me too, i feel empathy and love for 'em, their suffering and loads of karma must be horrible to handle... isnt it?

Best wishes from Switzerland

lwwb
Roger



I have been one miself dear friend, in my late teens early twenties. I was in a Roman Black Magic Circle that's when all started for me...I was stupid, I had lost my path trying to find again my reason to exist in this life which I knew but at that time I started to doubt, and turned on the dark side. Dark side is easier..falling is easy. Many things happened since then and I changed he can change aswell, I believe he has already, when I talked to him the past few times I sensed a good and honest person. He really want to change things.
When you know well the dark side you can fight them two time better, but noneteless is a sin a big one but God can read your heart and know.
 Quoting: The Roman 176977


Dear The Roman

congratulations and a big thankyou for your personal confession to speak about your past... smile... i am happy to hear that you're zentered now...

Best wishes from Switzerland

lwwb
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