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Michael. User ID: 47772145 American Samoa 08/19/2016 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here we go christians derailing the thread because they won't admit that Jesus is not God even though the bible explicitly says that he isn't! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72824080 "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am."-John 8:58 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not." John 1:1-4 "And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was."-John 17:5 It would seem that Jesus Christ himself disagrees with your statement, along with the new testament and the prophecies in the old testament. Furthermore since you seem incessant on teaching matters you don't understand, I'll provide you with some quotes on what the bible says about that kind of blasphemy... "28Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter, 29but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.” Mark 3:28 ""If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who believe in me--to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea."-Matthew 18:6 So then if you truly believe God's Word i would exhort you to study it and find out the truth, rather than take the word of a "pope" or catholic dogma. again someday all will understand. Farewell American Samoa, the "last stop of today and just a stones throw from tomorrow"and with that said and done I stood up, standing at the end of the day and walked boldly onward into tomorrow and to the given day of rest. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72824080 Brazil 08/19/2016 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here we go christians derailing the thread because they won't admit that Jesus is not God even though the bible explicitly says that he isn't! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72824080 "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am."-John 8:58 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not." John 1:1-4 "And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was."-John 17:5 It would seem that Jesus Christ himself disagrees with your statement, along with the new testament and the prophecies in the old testament. Furthermore since you seem incessant on teaching matters you don't understand, I'll provide you with some quotes on what the bible says about that kind of blasphemy... "28Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter, 29but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.” Mark 3:28 ""If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who believe in me--to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea."-Matthew 18:6 So then if you truly believe God's Word i would exhort you to study it and find out the truth, rather than take the word of a "pope" or catholic dogma. It would seem that you disagree with hundred other verses that says he isn't God. Even the verses you quoted, are not saying that he is God. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72612376 United States 08/19/2016 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do Catholic idolaters adore Mary when Mary adored God? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5702443 Why do Catholic idolaters say that Mary is co-redeemer when Mary said that God was her Savior? If Catholic idolaters truly followed Mary they would do what Mary did. If she was immaculate and without sin, why did she need a savior? Gospel of Saint Luke 1 46And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, 47And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour. Because she's the Mother of God, obey your mom. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 40090499 United States 08/19/2016 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, Catholics do not "worship" Mary. They ask for her intercession. Like the Saints as well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72762810 "Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died--more than that, who was raised to life--is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us."-Romans 8:34 currently noone is in heaven except for possibly Elijah and Moses, because the first resurrection hasn't taken place yet. Also, Jesus Christ himself intercedes on our behalf before God, so you don't need the help of mary or a pope or a deacon or any other kind of man. Those things were put into place by the catholic church who cares about power and earthly control, hence why they kept people in the past as illiterate so that noone could read the truth for themselves. Or it would be quite obvious that their entire belief system contradicts Jesus words. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40090499 United States 08/19/2016 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here we go christians derailing the thread because they won't admit that Jesus is not God even though the bible explicitly says that he isn't! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72824080 "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am."-John 8:58 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not." John 1:1-4 "And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was."-John 17:5 It would seem that Jesus Christ himself disagrees with your statement, along with the new testament and the prophecies in the old testament. Furthermore since you seem incessant on teaching matters you don't understand, I'll provide you with some quotes on what the bible says about that kind of blasphemy... "28Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter, 29but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.” Mark 3:28 ""If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who believe in me--to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea."-Matthew 18:6 So then if you truly believe God's Word i would exhort you to study it and find out the truth, rather than take the word of a "pope" or catholic dogma. It would seem that you disagree with hundred other verses that says he isn't God. Even the verses you quoted, are not saying that he is God. well, lets see them then, those verses i mean.The burden of proof is on you friend. Did you know that when Jesus said "I AM" he was making the claim that he was YHWH? That's why the pharisees picked up stones and tried to stone him, because they were blind and to them it appeared to be blasphemy. "God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.'"-Exodus 3:14 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70688233 United States 08/19/2016 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A lesson in Sola Scriptura, or taking the Bible Word for Word. Luke 1: 48 For Behold (def) observe From Henceforth (def) from this time on All (def) Used to refer to the whole quantity Generations (def) All of the people born and living Shall Call Me Blessed (def) To be held in VENERATION, REVERED. This is your Sola Scriptura.. Taking the Bible Literally. IF you cant call Mary Blessed of God than you must renounce you belief in the Bible and find a new religion. Try Buddhism, I am pretty sure you can do whatever you want there too. If you can obey the Word of God then look up in the Sky and say Mary you are Blessed of God. Do what you are told |
hankie Everything User ID: 71719409 United States 08/19/2016 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mary by saying she is the mother of god, is not Jesus mother mary, but the Queen of heaven, who holds a child in her arms. Mary Jesus's mother was not the Mother or God, but God formed Jesus in the womb he was his son. Mary carried Jesus and he was His Son, even in the Old Testament he was God's Son. The word of God, is the spirit of Jesus. Jesus did not at any time tell you to worship him, he said worship the Father who sent me. Now he also did not say worship Mary my Mother! Nimrod wife was One of the Queen of Heaven's symbols her sons was called the son of god, The SUN GOD! She holds her son in her arms. There are other ones down the ages. Constantine was a Sun worshiper he was to that time the god of the sun. Sorry I got a headache These are the times that tries men's and women's souls! May we come though it victorious! |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72824080 Brazil 08/19/2016 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here we go christians derailing the thread because they won't admit that Jesus is not God even though the bible explicitly says that he isn't! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72824080 "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am."-John 8:58 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not." John 1:1-4 "And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was."-John 17:5 It would seem that Jesus Christ himself disagrees with your statement, along with the new testament and the prophecies in the old testament. Furthermore since you seem incessant on teaching matters you don't understand, I'll provide you with some quotes on what the bible says about that kind of blasphemy... "28Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter, 29but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.” Mark 3:28 ""If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who believe in me--to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea."-Matthew 18:6 So then if you truly believe God's Word i would exhort you to study it and find out the truth, rather than take the word of a "pope" or catholic dogma. It would seem that you disagree with hundred other verses that says he isn't God. Even the verses you quoted, are not saying that he is God. well, lets see them then, those verses i mean.The burden of proof is on you friend. Did you know that when Jesus said "I AM" he was making the claim that he was YHWH? That's why the pharisees picked up stones and tried to stone him, because they were blind and to them it appeared to be blasphemy. "God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.'"-Exodus 3:14 Lets see them? The whole bible is filled with them. Great, let me hold your hands and read the bible for you...not. About your I am issue, just because it is the same in english, it doesn't mean it is the same in greek and hebrew, even think for a bit that perhaps he just said that he existed before Abraham? How does that make him God? It doesn't. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40090499 United States 08/19/2016 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A lesson in Sola Scriptura, or taking the Bible Word for Word. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70688233 Luke 1: 48 For Behold (def) observe From Henceforth (def) from this time on All (def) Used to refer to the whole quantity Generations (def) All of the people born and living Shall Call Me Blessed (def) To be held in VENERATION, REVERED. This is your Sola Scriptura.. Taking the Bible Literally. IF you cant call Mary Blessed of God than you must renounce you belief in the Bible and find a new religion. Try Buddhism, I am pretty sure you can do whatever you want there too. If you can obey the Word of God then look up in the Sky and say Mary you are Blessed of God. Do what you are told Noone has said that mary wasn't blessed, she was. But it is idolatrous and blasphemous to pray to her, it violates God's commandments: 1st commandment-“I AM the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me. 2nd commandment-“You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72824080 Brazil 08/19/2016 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mary by saying she is the mother of god, is not Jesus mother mary, but the Queen of heaven, who holds a child in her arms. Quoting: hankie Mary Jesus's mother was not the Mother or God, but God formed Jesus in the womb he was his son. Mary carried Jesus and he was His Son, even in the Old Testament he was God's Son. The word of God, is the spirit of Jesus. Jesus did not at any time tell you to worship him, he said worship the Father who sent me. Now he also did not say worship Mary my Mother! Nimrod wife was One of the Queen of Heaven's symbols her sons was called the son of god, The SUN GOD! She holds her son in her arms. There are other ones down the ages. Constantine was a Sun worshiper he was to that time the god of the sun. If Jesus is God, there is nothing wrong saying that Mary is the mother of God. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40090499 United States 08/19/2016 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40090499 "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am."-John 8:58 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not." John 1:1-4 "And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was."-John 17:5 It would seem that Jesus Christ himself disagrees with your statement, along with the new testament and the prophecies in the old testament. Furthermore since you seem incessant on teaching matters you don't understand, I'll provide you with some quotes on what the bible says about that kind of blasphemy... "28Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter, 29but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.” Mark 3:28 ""If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who believe in me--to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea."-Matthew 18:6 So then if you truly believe God's Word i would exhort you to study it and find out the truth, rather than take the word of a "pope" or catholic dogma. It would seem that you disagree with hundred other verses that says he isn't God. Even the verses you quoted, are not saying that he is God. well, lets see them then, those verses i mean.The burden of proof is on you friend. Did you know that when Jesus said "I AM" he was making the claim that he was YHWH? That's why the pharisees picked up stones and tried to stone him, because they were blind and to them it appeared to be blasphemy. "God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.'"-Exodus 3:14 Lets see them? The whole bible is filled with them. Great, let me hold your hands and read the bible for you...not. About your I am issue, just because it is the same in english, it doesn't mean it is the same in greek and hebrew, even think for a bit that perhaps he just said that he existed before Abraham? How does that make him God? It doesn't. That verse is from the KJV, which was translated from the greek, and for the record i have studied the greek and the message is quite clear. Btw nice straw man about the bible being filled with them but you didn't list a single one. What happened to being a workman approved? If you truly have proof, then prove it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70688233 United States 08/19/2016 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Apocolypse 12:1 And a great sign appeared in heaven: A woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars: [Apocalypse (Revelation) 12:1] [Latin] [2] And being with child, she cried travailing in birth, and was in pain to be delivered. I guess thats not Mary, Its just some chick on the scene |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72824080 Brazil 08/19/2016 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72824080 It would seem that you disagree with hundred other verses that says he isn't God. Even the verses you quoted, are not saying that he is God. well, lets see them then, those verses i mean.The burden of proof is on you friend. Did you know that when Jesus said "I AM" he was making the claim that he was YHWH? That's why the pharisees picked up stones and tried to stone him, because they were blind and to them it appeared to be blasphemy. "God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.'"-Exodus 3:14 Lets see them? The whole bible is filled with them. Great, let me hold your hands and read the bible for you...not. About your I am issue, just because it is the same in english, it doesn't mean it is the same in greek and hebrew, even think for a bit that perhaps he just said that he existed before Abraham? How does that make him God? It doesn't. That verse is from the KJV, which was translated from the greek, and for the record i have studied the greek and the message is quite clear. Btw nice straw man about the bible being filled with them but you didn't list a single one. What happened to being a workman approved? If you truly have proof, then prove it. If you really studied greek, you'd know that the greek word is the same in acts 26:29 where Paul said "I am". I suppose Paul is God too...not. About the verses, just give it up, i'm not pasting hundred of verses. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40090499 United States 08/19/2016 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Apocolypse 12:1 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70688233 And a great sign appeared in heaven: A woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars: [Apocalypse (Revelation) 12:1] [Latin] [2] And being with child, she cried travailing in birth, and was in pain to be delivered. I guess thats not Mary, Its just some chick on the scene So i guess from your chronology of revelation, Jesus will be born a second time at the end? It was an obvious reference to the first coming of Christ. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48091609 United States 08/19/2016 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mary does still prophecy against the Papist Whore of Babylon in the Romish Church, however. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5702443 Gospel of Saint Luke 1 49 For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name. 50 And his mercy is on them that fear him [Protestants] from generation to generation. 51 He hath shewed strength with his arm [against the Beast of Rome]; he hath scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts [Catholics]. 52 He hath put down the mighty from their seats [the Pope], and exalted them of low degree [Protestants]. 53 He hath filled the hungry with good things [Protestants]; and the rich he hath sent empty away [Catholics]. 54 He hath holpen his servant Israel [Protestants], in remembrance of his mercy; 55 As he spake to our fathers, to Abraham, and to his seed [Protestants in Christ] for ever. There were no Protestants for 1500 years after Christ found His Church. But now they know it all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70688233 United States 08/19/2016 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus refered to His mother as WOMAN twice. Once at the Wedding of Cana, of which your refer and once again From the Cross in his last words to his disciple. When Jesus calls his Mother "Woman" it is not out of disrespect, that would be breaking his own commandment to honor thy father and mother. "Woman" is Marys title from the Book of Genesis.. Lets have a look.. Genesis 3:[15] I will put enmities between thee and the WOMAN, and thy seed and HER seed: SHE shall CRUSH thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel. When Jesus looked down from the Cross just before his Holy Death he said.. John 19:26 (26)When Jesus therefore had seen his mother and the disciple standing whom he loved, he saith to his mother: WOMAN, behold thy son.(27)After that, he saith to the disciple: Behold thy mother. I guess Jesus was dissing his mother from the cross infront of everybody,, is your brain functioning? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 40090499 United States 08/19/2016 09:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40090499 well, lets see them then, those verses i mean.The burden of proof is on you friend. Did you know that when Jesus said "I AM" he was making the claim that he was YHWH? That's why the pharisees picked up stones and tried to stone him, because they were blind and to them it appeared to be blasphemy. "God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.'"-Exodus 3:14 Lets see them? The whole bible is filled with them. Great, let me hold your hands and read the bible for you...not. About your I am issue, just because it is the same in english, it doesn't mean it is the same in greek and hebrew, even think for a bit that perhaps he just said that he existed before Abraham? How does that make him God? It doesn't. That verse is from the KJV, which was translated from the greek, and for the record i have studied the greek and the message is quite clear. Btw nice straw man about the bible being filled with them but you didn't list a single one. What happened to being a workman approved? If you truly have proof, then prove it. If you really studied greek, you'd know that the greek word is the same in acts 26:29 where Paul said "I am". I suppose Paul is God too...not. About the verses, just give it up, i'm not pasting hundred of verses. Ah, i see, another strawman/deflection. We can argue semantics all day but we don't have to because the fruits of your spirit reveal who you're really working for. You don't have any proof so you tell lies and expect everyone else to take it at face value. Well i provided multiple verses to back up my scriptural POV and you obviously can't refute it so then we have nothing left to discuss. |
Ozicell User ID: 72796330 Australia 08/19/2016 09:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Protestants believe that Jesus is God. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72824080 The mother of Jesus is Mary. If Jesus is God, Mary is the mother of God...problem? See? That's what happens when you don't study the bible and believe your pastor instead. You are generalizing with your first point. Not all protestants/non RC's believe that! That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72824080 Brazil 08/19/2016 09:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72824080 Lets see them? The whole bible is filled with them. Great, let me hold your hands and read the bible for you...not. About your I am issue, just because it is the same in english, it doesn't mean it is the same in greek and hebrew, even think for a bit that perhaps he just said that he existed before Abraham? How does that make him God? It doesn't. That verse is from the KJV, which was translated from the greek, and for the record i have studied the greek and the message is quite clear. Btw nice straw man about the bible being filled with them but you didn't list a single one. What happened to being a workman approved? If you truly have proof, then prove it. If you really studied greek, you'd know that the greek word is the same in acts 26:29 where Paul said "I am". I suppose Paul is God too...not. About the verses, just give it up, i'm not pasting hundred of verses. Ah, i see, another strawman/deflection. We can argue semantics all day but we don't have to because the fruits of your spirit reveal who you're really working for. You don't have any proof so you tell lies and expect everyone else to take it at face value. Well i provided multiple verses to back up my scriptural POV and you obviously can't refute it so then we have nothing left to discuss. Think what you want, I'll believe the text any day instead of delusions of men's traditions. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40090499 United States 08/19/2016 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40090499 That verse is from the KJV, which was translated from the greek, and for the record i have studied the greek and the message is quite clear. Btw nice straw man about the bible being filled with them but you didn't list a single one. What happened to being a workman approved? If you truly have proof, then prove it. If you really studied greek, you'd know that the greek word is the same in acts 26:29 where Paul said "I am". I suppose Paul is God too...not. About the verses, just give it up, i'm not pasting hundred of verses. Ah, i see, another strawman/deflection. We can argue semantics all day but we don't have to because the fruits of your spirit reveal who you're really working for. You don't have any proof so you tell lies and expect everyone else to take it at face value. Well i provided multiple verses to back up my scriptural POV and you obviously can't refute it so then we have nothing left to discuss. Think what you want, I'll believe the text any day instead of delusions of men's traditions. "I and my Father are one."-John 10:30 How's that for some text to believe in? Don't worry I won't burden you by asking for any proof of your POV, you don't have any. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72824080 Brazil 08/19/2016 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72824080 If you really studied greek, you'd know that the greek word is the same in acts 26:29 where Paul said "I am". I suppose Paul is God too...not. About the verses, just give it up, i'm not pasting hundred of verses. Ah, i see, another strawman/deflection. We can argue semantics all day but we don't have to because the fruits of your spirit reveal who you're really working for. You don't have any proof so you tell lies and expect everyone else to take it at face value. Well i provided multiple verses to back up my scriptural POV and you obviously can't refute it so then we have nothing left to discuss. Think what you want, I'll believe the text any day instead of delusions of men's traditions. "I and my Father are one."-John 10:30 How's that for some text to believe in? Don't worry I won't burden you by asking for any proof of your POV, you don't have any. Clearly an ideology that Jesus and God think the same way. You are denying the bible because of men's traditions. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72824760 United States 08/19/2016 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By the rivers of Babylon [Rome], there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion [New Testament Christianity]. 2 We hanged our harps upon the willows in the midst thereof. 3 For there they that carried us away captive required of us a song; and they that wasted us required of us mirth, saying, Sing us one of the songs of Zion. 4 How shall we sing the LORD'S song in a strange land [Papal States]? 5 If I forget thee, O Jerusalem [Heaven Above], let my right hand forget her cunning. 6 If I do not remember thee, let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth; if I prefer not Jerusalem above my chief joy. 7 Remember, O LORD, the children of Edom [Catholics] in the day of Jerusalem [Protestant Reformation]; who said, Rase it, rase it, even to the foundation thereof. 8 O daughter of Babylon [Papacy], who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us. 9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones [Catholics] against the stones. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40090499 United States 08/19/2016 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40090499 Ah, i see, another strawman/deflection. We can argue semantics all day but we don't have to because the fruits of your spirit reveal who you're really working for. You don't have any proof so you tell lies and expect everyone else to take it at face value. Well i provided multiple verses to back up my scriptural POV and you obviously can't refute it so then we have nothing left to discuss. Think what you want, I'll believe the text any day instead of delusions of men's traditions. "I and my Father are one."-John 10:30 How's that for some text to believe in? Don't worry I won't burden you by asking for any proof of your POV, you don't have any. Clearly an ideology that Jesus and God think the same way. You are denying the bible because of men's traditions. So then how did Jesus do the miracles that he did? How did he resurrect himself from the dead? How did he ascend to the right hand of the Father? And probably the most pertinent question of all in light of current events, when Jesus returns at the 2nd coming why is it written on his thigh "King of Kings, and Lord of Lords"? it even says he is the one who treads the winepress of wrath of God Almighty. How much more proof do you need? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72824080 Brazil 08/19/2016 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72824080 Think what you want, I'll believe the text any day instead of delusions of men's traditions. "I and my Father are one."-John 10:30 How's that for some text to believe in? Don't worry I won't burden you by asking for any proof of your POV, you don't have any. Clearly an ideology that Jesus and God think the same way. You are denying the bible because of men's traditions. So then how did Jesus do the miracles that he did? How did he resurrect himself from the dead? How did he ascend to the right hand of the Father? And probably the most pertinent question of all in light of current events, when Jesus returns at the 2nd coming why is it written on his thigh "King of Kings, and Lord of Lords"? it even says he is the one who treads the winepress of wrath of God Almighty. How much more proof do you need? Jesus himself said he cannot do anything without his father. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40090499 United States 08/19/2016 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "17When they saw Him, they worshiped Him, but some doubted. 18Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me. 19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit |