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Ridiculous argument:

Because God knows what I Will do,
therefore I don't have free will to do it.


God Almighty is Almighty to create free-willed beings. He is also sovereign to supersede our sovereignty. That does not make him the only sovereign any more than asking someone to do something, suggesting someone do something, commanding someone do something, or forcing someone to do something at gun point takes away their sovereignty.

As a Christian I willingly surrender my mind, body and soul to the power of my Lord and God over my life. I trust in his 100% goodness that I don't rebel against anything but trust in him over my life. I declare that Jesus Christ has full control to do unto my mind, body and soul and circumstances as he chooses because I know that everything he does unto me will be good for me even if I don't yet see the results.

God DOES NOT use Satan to do his will. Satan acts in hatred, Jesus acts in love, therefore if Satan even obeyed the commands of the Lord then Satan would be doing an act of love and get credit for being a minister of God's love. Uh uh. Satan is not even close to being good enough that if Jesus would command him once he wouldn't obey it even knowing he could get praise. He doesn't want praise he is the embodiment of hatred which knows no friends. He hates God, people, animals, plants, the elements, space, all of creation.

Free will is real.

Prove it by speaking this out right now:

In the name of the Lord Jesus I command
all unclean spirits come out of me and leave me and do not return to me,
and I command Satan and all unclean spirits to never talk to me again and never come near me ever again,
and I command that everything Satan has bound in me be loosed,
and everything Satan loosed in me be bound.


If you just felt highly blessed then thank the good Lord by his name but don't stop there, ask the Lord Jesus for forgiveness for your having broken God's laws, and also ask for his Holy Spirit to help you keep his commandments and research what the commandments of Jesus are and commit them to memory and commit yourself to keeping them.

Thank you, Lord Jesus.

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As a Christian I willingly surrender my mind, body and soul to the power of my Lord and God over my life
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That's a fine gesture, but He paid for them fair & square. The bit where He says "Apart from Me, you can do nothing" comes to mind.

cheers
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As a Christian I willingly surrender my mind, body and soul to the power of my Lord and God over my life
 Quoting: Thank You, Jesus Christ!


That's a fine gesture, but He paid for them fair & square. The bit where He says "Apart from Me, you can do nothing" comes to mind.

cheers
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You seem bitter. Why play "devil's advocate" unless you're really edifying a close friend? Why do you justify your own sin by shooting down righteousness to a level that you are comfortable with?

Repent, and pray for the Holy Spirit.
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Lord Jesus I am a sinner. Please forgive me of all of my sins and fill me with your Holy Spirit and help me stop all sinning.
Thank you Jesus! Amen!
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Where is the free will of people with a NDE and wanted to stay in the light but yet were returned against their will ? If free will really existed they could have stayed in the light. What about people wanting to win the lottery and do not win ever? Where is the free will then? What about people getting ill and even do not want illness? I could go on and on, there is no free will! Do not start with karma, karma is BS made up by archons.
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As a Christian I willingly surrender my mind, body and soul to the power of my Lord and God over my life
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That's a fine gesture, but He paid for them fair & square. The bit where He says "Apart from Me, you can do nothing" comes to mind.

cheers
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You seem bitter. Why play "devil's advocate" unless you're really edifying a close friend? Why do you justify your own sin by shooting down righteousness to a level that you are comfortable with?

Repent, and pray for the Holy Spirit.
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yikes
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Where is the free will of people with a NDE and wanted to stay in the light but yet were returned against their will ? If free will really existed they could have stayed in the light. What about people wanting to win the lottery and do not win ever? Where is the free will then? What about people getting ill and even do not want illness? I could go on and on, there is no free will! Do not start with karma, karma is BS made up by archons.
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Still waiting on answer Op. Unless my statement made clear that free will does not exist on this prison planet.
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As a Christian I willingly surrender my mind, body and soul to the power of my Lord and God over my life
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Not to keep poking the bare, but do you sincerely think that doing this was your idea?
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We perceive our ignorance of the future as free will.
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Lord Jesus I am a sinner. Please forgive me of all of my sins and fill me with your Holy Spirit and help me stop all sinning.
Thank you Jesus! Amen!
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As a Christian I willingly surrender my mind, body and soul to the power of my Lord and God over my life. I trust in his 100% goodness that I don't rebel against anything but trust in him over my life. I declare that Jesus Christ has full control to do unto my mind, body and soul and circumstances as he chooses because I know that everything he does unto me will be good for me even if I don't yet see the results.
 Quoting: Thank You, Jesus Christ!


OK, you use your free will to give your free will away to Jesus.

What about those of us who like our free will and wish to keep it? End station Hell, right?

Somehow that doesn't strike me as a very fair deal.
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God Almighty is Almighty to create free-willed beings. He is also sovereign to supersede our sovereignty. That does not make him the only sovereign any more than asking someone to do something, suggesting someone do something, commanding someone do something, or forcing someone to do something at gun point takes away their sovereignty.

As a Christian I willingly surrender my mind, body and soul to the power of my Lord and God over my life. I trust in his 100% goodness that I don't rebel against anything but trust in him over my life. I declare that Jesus Christ has full control to do unto my mind, body and soul and circumstances as he chooses because I know that everything he does unto me will be good for me even if I don't yet see the results.

God DOES NOT use Satan to do his will. Satan acts in hatred, Jesus acts in love, therefore if Satan even obeyed the commands of the Lord then Satan would be doing an act of love and get credit for being a minister of God's love. Uh uh. Satan is not even close to being good enough that if Jesus would command him once he wouldn't obey it even knowing he could get praise. He doesn't want praise he is the embodiment of hatred which knows no friends. He hates God, people, animals, plants, the elements, space, all of creation.

Free will is real.

Prove it by speaking this out right now:

In the name of the Lord Jesus I command
all unclean spirits come out of me and leave me and do not return to me,
and I command Satan and all unclean spirits to never talk to me again and never come near me ever again,
and I command that everything Satan has bound in me be loosed,
and everything Satan loosed in me be bound.


If you just felt highly blessed then thank the good Lord by his name but don't stop there, ask the Lord Jesus for forgiveness for your having broken God's laws, and also ask for his Holy Spirit to help you keep his commandments and research what the commandments of Jesus are and commit them to memory and commit yourself to keeping them.

Thank you, Lord Jesus.
 Quoting: Thank You, Jesus Christ!


Sovereignity means having supreme authority. Please explain how forcing someone to do something at gun point (or by threat of eternal damnation) does not impede their authority.
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God Almighty is Almighty to create free-willed beings. He is also sovereign to supersede our sovereignty. That does not make him the only sovereign any more than asking someone to do something, suggesting someone do something, commanding someone do something, or forcing someone to do something at gun point takes away their sovereignty.

As a Christian I willingly surrender my mind, body and soul to the power of my Lord and God over my life. I trust in his 100% goodness that I don't rebel against anything but trust in him over my life. I declare that Jesus Christ has full control to do unto my mind, body and soul and circumstances as he chooses because I know that everything he does unto me will be good for me even if I don't yet see the results.

God DOES NOT use Satan to do his will. Satan acts in hatred, Jesus acts in love, therefore if Satan even obeyed the commands of the Lord then Satan would be doing an act of love and get credit for being a minister of God's love. Uh uh. Satan is not even close to being good enough that if Jesus would command him once he wouldn't obey it even knowing he could get praise. He doesn't want praise he is the embodiment of hatred which knows no friends. He hates God, people, animals, plants, the elements, space, all of creation.

Free will is real.

Prove it by speaking this out right now:

In the name of the Lord Jesus I command
all unclean spirits come out of me and leave me and do not return to me,
and I command Satan and all unclean spirits to never talk to me again and never come near me ever again,
and I command that everything Satan has bound in me be loosed,
and everything Satan loosed in me be bound.


If you just felt highly blessed then thank the good Lord by his name but don't stop there, ask the Lord Jesus for forgiveness for your having broken God's laws, and also ask for his Holy Spirit to help you keep his commandments and research what the commandments of Jesus are and commit them to memory and commit yourself to keeping them.

Thank you, Lord Jesus.
 Quoting: Thank You, Jesus Christ!


Sovereignity means having supreme authority. Please explain how forcing someone to do something at gun point (or by threat of eternal damnation) does not impede their authority.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69797435


They had a choice whether to get shot or go to hell. Really. Ok, not really, but it's the best argument that these folks going on about free will can come up with.
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God Almighty is Almighty to create free-willed beings. He is also sovereign to supersede our sovereignty. That does not make him the only sovereign any more than asking someone to do something, suggesting someone do something, commanding someone do something, or forcing someone to do something at gun point takes away their sovereignty.

As a Christian I willingly surrender my mind, body and soul to the power of my Lord and God over my life. I trust in his 100% goodness that I don't rebel against anything but trust in him over my life. I declare that Jesus Christ has full control to do unto my mind, body and soul and circumstances as he chooses because I know that everything he does unto me will be good for me even if I don't yet see the results.

God DOES NOT use Satan to do his will. Satan acts in hatred, Jesus acts in love, therefore if Satan even obeyed the commands of the Lord then Satan would be doing an act of love and get credit for being a minister of God's love. Uh uh. Satan is not even close to being good enough that if Jesus would command him once he wouldn't obey it even knowing he could get praise. He doesn't want praise he is the embodiment of hatred which knows no friends. He hates God, people, animals, plants, the elements, space, all of creation.

Free will is real.

Prove it by speaking this out right now:

In the name of the Lord Jesus I command
all unclean spirits come out of me and leave me and do not return to me,
and I command Satan and all unclean spirits to never talk to me again and never come near me ever again,
and I command that everything Satan has bound in me be loosed,
and everything Satan loosed in me be bound.


If you just felt highly blessed then thank the good Lord by his name but don't stop there, ask the Lord Jesus for forgiveness for your having broken God's laws, and also ask for his Holy Spirit to help you keep his commandments and research what the commandments of Jesus are and commit them to memory and commit yourself to keeping them.

Thank you, Lord Jesus.
 Quoting: Thank You, Jesus Christ!


Sovereignity means having supreme authority. Please explain how forcing someone to do something at gun point (or by threat of eternal damnation) does not impede their authority.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69797435


Because they still have free will to choose to deny.
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Lord Jesus I am a sinner. Please forgive me of all of my sins and fill me with your Holy Spirit and help me stop all sinning.
Thank you Jesus! Amen!
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Because they still have free will to choose to deny.
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But any such "denial" is only temporary. And is mitigated by scripture's plain sassertion that most at this time are *blinded*. (And I'm no expert, but didn't Peter deny Jesus? Publicly, after walking with Him in person for 3 years and participating in the miracles, etc.? That's immensely worse than normal 21st century people "denying" Him, while He's little more than a rumor to them at this stage, don't you think? Yet how did that work out for Pete. . .did Christ cut Him loose, or did He straighten it all out?)

Ultimately, the veil will be pulled entirely away and folks will see, and they'll be fine, because He hasn't left this to chance. He's counted the cost, and has all authority in heaven & earth. . .common sense would suggest that this includes authority over me & you and everyone else. The theme of Freeing Captives is absolutely vital to grasp if we yes-men are going to get the big picture and cut the "I chose Jesus my own self!" nonsense. (Did they publish a batch of bibles that were missing John 15:16, or what?)
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God Almighty is Almighty to create free-willed beings. He is also sovereign to supersede our sovereignty. That does not make him the only sovereign any more than asking someone to do something, suggesting someone do something, commanding someone do something, or forcing someone to do something at gun point takes away their sovereignty.

As a Christian I willingly surrender my mind, body and soul to the power of my Lord and God over my life. I trust in his 100% goodness that I don't rebel against anything but trust in him over my life. I declare that Jesus Christ has full control to do unto my mind, body and soul and circumstances as he chooses because I know that everything he does unto me will be good for me even if I don't yet see the results.

God DOES NOT use Satan to do his will. Satan acts in hatred, Jesus acts in love, therefore if Satan even obeyed the commands of the Lord then Satan would be doing an act of love and get credit for being a minister of God's love. Uh uh. Satan is not even close to being good enough that if Jesus would command him once he wouldn't obey it even knowing he could get praise. He doesn't want praise he is the embodiment of hatred which knows no friends. He hates God, people, animals, plants, the elements, space, all of creation.

Free will is real.

Prove it by speaking this out right now:

In the name of the Lord Jesus I command
all unclean spirits come out of me and leave me and do not return to me,
and I command Satan and all unclean spirits to never talk to me again and never come near me ever again,
and I command that everything Satan has bound in me be loosed,
and everything Satan loosed in me be bound.


If you just felt highly blessed then thank the good Lord by his name but don't stop there, ask the Lord Jesus for forgiveness for your having broken God's laws, and also ask for his Holy Spirit to help you keep his commandments and research what the commandments of Jesus are and commit them to memory and commit yourself to keeping them.

Thank you, Lord Jesus.
 Quoting: Thank You, Jesus Christ!


Sovereignity means having supreme authority. Please explain how forcing someone to do something at gun point (or by threat of eternal damnation) does not impede their authority.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69797435


Because they still have free will to choose to deny.
 Quoting: Thank You, Jesus Christ!


I'm starting to think the poster that called you a robot might be right. Either that, or you are an imbecile. You obviously have now idea what the word sovereign means, and how it is completely irrelevant to the ridiculous point you are trying to make. *Hint* Sovereignity and free will are two separate concepts, with completely different definitions. Your post reads like the idiotic ramblings of a buffoon.

God isn't real. A person doesn't "deny" something that is imaginary. Using vocabulary you barely understand to assert your righteousness is a sign of spiritual and psychological immaturity. Grow up.
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What a bunch of bullshit...


It was man's choice of his own will, instead of continuing in Accord With God's Will, that caused our downfall in the garden.


Were you Born-Again, you would understand what your carnal-heart is and that rejoicing in your own free-will is the height of ignorant arrogance. It is surrender of our will Unto The Father that brings us back Into HIS Accord; but you are just another Hebrews 12 Bastard who rejects God's Guidance and Chastening!


I would curse your vanity, but it would be like chastising a retard; unworthy of me and incomprehensible to you...
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Satan obeyed God in the book of Job. There is a chance he obeyed God when sifting Peter as well.
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JESUS also said "get the hence," and Satan left. When Jesus commands unclean spirits, they obeyed.
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Because they still have free will to choose to deny.
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But any such "denial" is only temporary. And is mitigated by scripture's plain sassertion that most at this time are *blinded*. (And I'm no expert, but didn't Peter deny Jesus? Publicly, after walking with Him in person for 3 years and participating in the miracles, etc.? That's immensely worse than normal 21st century people "denying" Him, while He's little more than a rumor to them at this stage, don't you think? Yet how did that work out for Pete. . .did Christ cut Him loose, or did He straighten it all out?)

Ultimately, the veil will be pulled entirely away and folks will see, and they'll be fine, because He hasn't left this to chance. He's counted the cost, and has all authority in heaven & earth. . .common sense would suggest that this includes authority over me & you and everyone else. The theme of Freeing Captives is absolutely vital to grasp if we yes-men are going to get the big picture and cut the "I chose Jesus my own self!" nonsense. (Did they publish a batch of bibles that were missing John 15:16, or what?)
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You have a strange way of looking at scripture. You justify everyone will be saved but deny scripture. Moses said they will all perish if they do not obey the one who was to come after them. If perishing meant death well most people die, so perishing must mean the vanishing of one's soul.
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Satan obeyed God in the book of Job. There is a chance he obeyed God when sifting Peter as well.
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You are not right. Jesus dropped the hedge of protection around Job and his possessions. It was Satan's will to do evil. Jesus prayed for Peter in opposition against Satan's will, he'd be a hypocrite to have prayed for it.

Remember, where there is love there is no law. In heaven there is no legality but true freedom.
SALVATION IS ONLY 1 PRAYER AWAY!!
Lord Jesus I am a sinner. Please forgive me of all of my sins and fill me with your Holy Spirit and help me stop all sinning.
Thank you Jesus! Amen!
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Satan obeyed God in the book of Job. There is a chance he obeyed God when sifting Peter as well.
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You are not right. Jesus dropped the hedge of protection around Job and his possessions. It was Satan's will to do evil. Jesus prayed for Peter in opposition against Satan's will, he'd be a hypocrite to have prayed for it.

Remember, where there is love there is no law. In heaven there is no legality but true freedom.
 Quoting: Thank You, Jesus Christ!


jesus was nowhere mentioned in job. you are making lies.
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JESUS also said "get the hence," and Satan left. When Jesus commands unclean spirits, they obeyed.
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He commands Satan and the unclean spirits to STOP DOING EVIL,

Never to start doing goodness.
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Satan obeyed God in the book of Job. There is a chance he obeyed God when sifting Peter as well.
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You are not right. Jesus dropped the hedge of protection around Job and his possessions. It was Satan's will to do evil. Jesus prayed for Peter in opposition against Satan's will, he'd be a hypocrite to have prayed for it.

Remember, where there is love there is no law. In heaven there is no legality but true freedom.
 Quoting: Thank You, Jesus Christ!


jesus was nowhere mentioned in job. you are making lies.
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Jesus Christ is God of the old testament and God of all creation, including you.
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Free will is the original sin. We are not here to do our own will, we are here to do Gods' will. As the satanic bible says, "do what thou wilt, shall be the whole of the law"

Heaven and earth shall pass but Gods' laws are forever, they are the laws of his kingdom.
Do you think you are going to have pork chops for lunch and then go vote in Gods' kingdom? Gods' kingdom is not a democracy, you will not be in charge.
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Free will is the original sin. We are not here to do our own will, we are here to do Gods' will. As the satanic bible says, "do what thou wilt, shall be the whole of the law"

Heaven and earth shall pass but Gods' laws are forever, they are the laws of his kingdom.
Do you think you are going to have pork chops for lunch and then go vote in Gods' kingdom? Gods' kingdom is not a democracy, you will not be in charge.
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God says, "Do what thou wilt in the confines of my law."
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Satan obeyed God in the book of Job. There is a chance he obeyed God when sifting Peter as well.
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You are not right. Jesus dropped the hedge of protection around Job and his possessions. It was Satan's will to do evil. Jesus prayed for Peter in opposition against Satan's will, he'd be a hypocrite to have prayed for it.

Remember, where there is love there is no law. In heaven there is no legality but true freedom.
 Quoting: Thank You, Jesus Christ!


Satan was not allowed to kill Job. He obeyed God. God gave commands to Satan and Satan obeyed.

Didn't Jesus pray that Peters faith not fail?
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Job 1:11-12King James Version (KJV)

11 But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.

12 And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the Lord.

God clearly gave Satan orders to follow.





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