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ET abductions -- not evil, but may be beneficial to us

 
Mickey Martian
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I've heard and considered over the years the fact of alien abductions, their abduction of humans against our will, implants, and being tracked all their lives by aliens. Nearly everyone agrees that this is at least evil, and the religious crowd jumps to conclusions that aliens are demonic because of the abductions. I don't agree and actually am starting to think humans are being abducted for our benefit, not to harm us. Yes, we're abducted against our will. We humans abduct animals in the wild all the time. We abduct them, I'm sure it's against their "will" because of the fight they put up. We tag them, our primitive version of implants. We track them in the same way as aliens keep track of lifelong abductees. Instead of coming to the simpleminded conclusion that such abductions are hostile and contrary to our interests, maybe we should start thinking in the other direction.
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Positive beings aren't going to take you against your will. Negative beings will and the abductions benefit only them. Perhaps if you agreed to go with someone it wasn't an abduction in the first place.
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Positive beings aren't going to take you against your will. Negative beings will and the abductions benefit only them. Perhaps if you agreed to go with someone it wasn't an abduction in the first place.
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Are we positive or negative beings? When we tag wildlife, are we doing something that can benefit them in the long run or are we trying to hurt them. Your premise is wrong.
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I believe its the frightened thoughts themselves in humans(which is quite hard to overcome in the presence of different Extraterrestrials) that gives them every reason to have an negative abduction experience. although people still do claim that theres all types of them, ones here for different purposes (some Evil) just like the complexity of our human species.

But then again if you think about it, if they're consciousness and technology is more advanced than ours, why would they have any reason to perform something against our will, unless it was for the betterment?
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>>>ET abductions -- not evil, but may be beneficial to us<<<


Not evil, just annoying.
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Mine have been awesome, I feel bleesed & chosen to be a messenger
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We would have to ask them to understand everything, but be sure that there is no such thing as "evil", except in the human race. We created such a notion, and we fufill our own wishes towards what we will experience.
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Time will tell, I had several experiences between 93 and 96, some terrifying some OK.
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Keep in mind that there are two types of Abductions

Group "A" abductions is when ET takes you, these are always for your benefit

Case "B" abductions is when our Military then abducts you to see what Group "A" did, these will not be pleasant and these abductions are not for you benifit but rather the Illuminati's
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When we tag dolphins, turtles, etc. for 'their own benefit', I believe we mean well and those who do it probably have no knowledge (or even belief of the level) of such animals' consciousnesses.

Aliens, on the other hand, know we are sentient, thinking, beings. Despite the fact that many aliens insist 'our free will was given but we don't remember', the onus is on them to treat us with the kind of respect a sentient conscious brother would provide.

I still maintain, therefore, that if you have not consciously given your permission to be abducted, the alien is taking supreme advantage due to its perceived 'superiority'.
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I still maintain, therefore, that if you have not consciously given your permission to be abducted, the alien is taking supreme advantage due to its perceived 'superiority'.
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What if you have given unconscious permission?
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Read what the Hopi Elders say about being taking. Very soon they are going to offer us control of spacetime, the ultimate lure for our body parts:

[link to www.thebeloveddisciple.org]
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Is anyone here speaking from experience?...
I don`t think so
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What if you have given unconscious permission?
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What is unconscious permission? IF it's higher self/soul agreement, then that probably is why you have been abducted in the first place. However, an alien - who purports to be familiar with the soul set-up - would respect that your conscious awareness is being interfered with and would leave you alone.

Anyway, why can't they abduct those who want to be abducted? There are plenty out there who would be dying for a trip on a starship.

I have no conscious recollection of abduction, it's just my opinion. No-one can break your free will unless you allow it....and that is our sovereign right as spiritual beings. BUT conscious agreement is what's required here if they expect us to join them as galactic citizens.
"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.

PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info

"It's never too late to have a happy childhood" - Ahim-sa

"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam

"Remember me as I AM." My Brother
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Is anyone here speaking from experience?...
I don`t think so
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I am
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I would say... first the law of the universe... like attracts like..

Second... these ET's are YOURSELF in YOUR FUTUER coming back for you in this TIME SPAN... ALL TIME happens NOW.

No ET can abduct you unless there is a HOOK from DNA which is the same as Karma.

So, although they may not REMEMBER who they be... it is allowed by Universal Lawa.

Also, think of it this way... you have a grand daughter that is part of your DNA Chain... you live in Russa she lives in Seattle Washington.

You go by and pick her up from shool.. have a little chat... reveal some family secrets and then you are off.

She is immature.. can not remember your face or language... you look very odd to her.. and the whole event was shocking and scary and wow do you have a story to tell afterwards.

So now you know.

All things and times are continueing to happen NOW... and depending on how awake you are... you can TAP into many different time lines...

As you do this... one world seems like a dream... one world seems real... everyone actually does this often..

Smile.
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What some of you don't understand is that those responsible for human abductions are NOT more spiritual than humans. They would NOT transgress human will by violently abducting them and putting them through painful examinations that can leave radiation burns, scars and recurring nightmares. The Greys in particular lack a soul and spirit because they possess only a group mind. They have no individuality or free will of their own. They are little robots that become confused when their abduction plans go wrong because, possessing no will of their own, they cannot decide for themselves. They study us because they want to become spiritually whole, like us. But they cannot, because they are spiritually inferior to us and no amount of genetic or subtle-body tinkering will ever enable them to become "sons and daughters of God". Their group mind is highly advanced in scientific/technological matters, and they are able to deceive us into equating their mental prowess with superior wisdom and goodness and to lie to us continually about what the future will bring. Think of the Borg in Star Trek as an accurate comparison. The Greys exploit and harvest us - against our will - like cattle for their OWN selfish goals, namely, the perpetuation of their dying species, not because they are helping us as part of some long-term plan for each of us. The Cosmic Directive is "non-interference in the evolution of another species." The Greys have long been breaking this rule by meddling with human evolution, thereby working against the "will of God." For fundamentalist Christians, this turns them into demons, an interpretation which, like the rest of Christian thinking, is parochial, simplistic and uninformed by much spiritual insight into the nature of the universe and its inhabitants. Although we may dismiss that point of view, let us not ignore the essential point, which is that being able to fly about in amazing vehicles does not necessarily mean you are good and wise.

Whenever you read naive comments about ET abductions being beneficial to the abductees, just remember having seen photos like these [link to www.crowdedskies.com] and keep asking yourselves: what GOOD alien would do that to a man? How did HE benefit?
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What some of you don't understand is that those responsible for human abductions are NOT more spiritual than humans. They would NOT transgress human will by violently abducting them and putting them through painful examinations that can leave radiation burns, scars and recurring nightmares. The Greys in particular lack a soul and spirit because they possess only a group mind. They have no individuality or free will of their own. They are little robots that become confused when their abduction plans go wrong because, possessing no will of their own, they cannot decide for themselves. They study us because they want to become spiritually whole, like us. But they cannot, because they are spiritually inferior to us and no amount of genetic or subtle-body tinkering will ever enable them to become "sons and daughters of God". Their group mind is highly advanced in scientific/technological matters, and they are able to deceive us into equating their mental prowess with superior wisdom and goodness and to lie to us continually about what the future will bring. Think of the Borg in Star Trek as an accurate comparison. The Greys exploit and harvest us - against our will - like cattle for their OWN selfish goals, namely, the perpetuation of their dying species, not because they are helping us as part of some long-term plan for each of us. The Cosmic Directive is "non-interference in the evolution of another species." The Greys have long been breaking this rule by meddling with human evolution, thereby working against the "will of God." For fundamentalist Christians, this turns them into demons, an interpretation which, like the rest of Christian thinking, is parochial, simplistic and uninformed by much spiritual insight into the nature of the universe and its inhabitants. Although we may dismiss that point of view, let us not ignore the essential point, which is that being able to fly about in amazing vehicles does not necessarily mean you are good and wise.

Whenever you read naive comments about ET abductions being beneficial to the abductees, just remember having seen photos like these [link to www.crowdedskies.com] and keep asking yourselves: what GOOD alien would do that to a man? How did HE benefit?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 178458

Exactly. I agree with you 100% that would've been my second opinion - but I like to hear what other people have to say since i haven't really had any close contact with the negative entities yet. but it makes alot of sense.
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I would say... first the law of the universe... like attracts like..

Second... these ET's are YOURSELF in YOUR FUTUER coming back for you in this TIME SPAN... ALL TIME happens NOW.

<<That's a theory, not a fact that YOU know to proven. So stop presenting us with fantasies in order to defend sick, reprehensible behavior by certain species of aliens>>

No ET can abduct you unless there is a HOOK from DNA which is the same as Karma.

<<Who says? And even if there WERE a karmic reason for the abduction, does that make it right? OF COURSE NOT!!>>

So, although they may not REMEMBER who they be... it is allowed by Universal Lawa.

<<No, it is not. Who do you think you are, asserting what is allowed? God?>>

Also, think of it this way... you have a grand daughter that is part of your DNA Chain... you live in Russa she lives in Seattle Washington.

You go by and pick her up from shool.. have a little chat... reveal some family secrets and then you are off.

She is immature.. can not remember your face or language... you look very odd to her.. and the whole event was shocking and scary and wow do you have a story to tell afterwards.


<<A ridiculous analogy. Grandfathers don't rape their grandchildren, give their children and then withdraw the foetus before it comes to term. Grandfathers don't anally probe little children, leave then with scars and radiation burns that sometimes don't heal, harass and frighten them continually throughout their lives, extract genetic material without their permission (often without anaesthetics) and tell then whopping lies about why this was done.>>

So now you know.

All things and times are continueing to happen NOW... and depending on how awake you are... you can TAP into many different time lines...

As you do this... one world seems like a dream... one world seems real... everyone actually does this often..

<<Mmm. So I can tap into lots of world-lines, can I? That is supposed to make me feel better, is it, about my son who went missing for eight hours, and wakes up with blood on his pillow because some damn Grey left behind a sensing device in his face? Very spiritual and kind of them! Thanks, aliens for messing up my son's life so he's now scared of the slightest sound! All I would say to you, AC.97470 is: go back to sleep. You have not got a f**ing clue about what is going on.>>

Smile.
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>>The Cosmic Directive is "non-interference in the evolution of another species." The Greys have long been breaking this rule by meddling with human evolution, thereby working against the "will of God." >>

I totally agree that this SHOULD be a cosmic directive. Do you have any evidence or first-hand experience, AC? All I have is what I've read on various websites.
"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.

PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info

"It's never too late to have a happy childhood" - Ahim-sa

"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam

"Remember me as I AM." My Brother
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OP needs a deep anal probe.
After that a real rough reptiloid gang rape.
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Phil Schneider off of google or youtube watch and know what's going on instead of guessing.
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Being taken against your will is NOT beneficial.
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I've heard and considered over the years the fact of alien abductions, their abduction of humans against our will, implants, and being tracked all their lives by aliens. Nearly everyone agrees that this is at least evil, and the religious crowd jumps to conclusions that aliens are demonic because of the abductions. I don't agree and actually am starting to think humans are being abducted for our benefit, not to harm us. Yes, we're abducted against our will. We humans abduct animals in the wild all the time. We abduct them, I'm sure it's against their "will" because of the fight they put up. We tag them, our primitive version of implants. We track them in the same way as aliens keep track of lifelong abductees. Instead of coming to the simpleminded conclusion that such abductions are hostile and contrary to our interests, maybe we should start thinking in the other direction.
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We tag animals to keep track of their "info" This is for food. We use the dairy milk we eat the beef cow. They all have numbers.
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Keep in mind that there are two types of Abductions

Group "A" abductions is when ET takes you, these are always for your benefit

Case "B" abductions is when our Military then abducts you to see what Group "A" did, these will not be pleasant and these abductions are not for you benifit but rather the Illuminati's
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 175184


There are two types of aliens; service to self and service to others, but it really sucks when Groups A&B join forces for that "grey" area (pun intended) no one seems to mention.
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Being taken against your will is NOT beneficial.
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Agreed. We're not little animals that can't communicate. The aliens should just come to us and say "hey, we're wanting to help your race because you guys are complete failures so come with us and we'll do really cool things to you that you can brag to your friends about later. Oh yes and we have free beer."
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OP needs a deep anal probe.
After that a real rough reptiloid gang rape.
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You would think after such abuse the OP and many others would awaken from their cutesy, E.T.-Elliot, warm and fuzzy dream world, but this is not always the case.
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Are we overlooking an unspoken fear, "that 3D space on this planet is a Prison for errant Souls and Aliens...
Why would any soul/lifeform willing live in a three Dimension Puniverse when the entire verse is the inheritance?
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>>The Cosmic Directive is "non-interference in the evolution of another species." The Greys have long been breaking this rule by meddling with human evolution, thereby working against the "will of God." >>

I totally agree that this SHOULD be a cosmic directive. Do you have any evidence or first-hand experience, AC? All I have is what I've read on various websites.
 Quoting: Divinity


It's what other, positive aliens have sometimes told people during "encounters of the unforced kind." I have read a number of well-documented cases where this has been said, but cannot give you links to the material at this very moment.

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