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Marine Colonel's Letter to NFL Commish for Allowing National Anthem Protests

 
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Now I watch multi-millionaire athletes who never did anything in their lives but play a game, disrespect what brave Americans fought and died for. They are essentially spitting in the faces and on the graves of real men, men who have actually done something for this country beside playing with a ball and believing they’re something special! They’re not! My Marines and Soldiers were!

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those brave americans fought for americans to have the freedoms to protest anything they feel they need to protest


VETERANS SUPPORT THE RIGHT TO PROTEST


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We are complaining that the NFL is allowing the protests. Players can protest on their own time.
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Now I watch multi-millionaire athletes who never did anything in their lives but play a game, disrespect what brave Americans fought and died for. They are essentially spitting in the faces and on the graves of real men, men who have actually done something for this country beside playing with a ball and believing they’re something special! They’re not! My Marines and Soldiers were!

[link to app.ijr.com]
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those brave americans fought for americans to have the freedoms to protest anything they feel they need to protest


VETERANS SUPPORT THE RIGHT TO PROTEST


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16679405


We are complaining that the NFL is allowing the protests. Players can protest on their own time.
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The NFL is a Corporation and the United States of America is the Umbrella Corporation.


If therefore the NFL implements policies destructive of the Umbrella Corporation, put it out in the rain.
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Now I watch multi-millionaire athletes who never did anything in their lives but play a game, disrespect what brave Americans fought and died for. They are essentially spitting in the faces and on the graves of real men, men who have actually done something for this country beside playing with a ball and believing they’re something special! They’re not! My Marines and Soldiers were!

[link to app.ijr.com]
 Quoting: *Flame Thrower*


those brave americans fought for americans to have the freedoms to protest anything they feel they need to protest


VETERANS SUPPORT THE RIGHT TO PROTEST


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16679405


We are complaining that the NFL is allowing the protests. Players can protest on their own time.
 Quoting: *Flame Thrower*




no, you said yourself they are disrespecting what brave americans fought and died for and those brave americans who fought and lived are supporting his right to protest... BECAUSE THAT"S WHAT THEY FOUGHT FOR
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Now I watch multi-millionaire athletes who never did anything in their lives but play a game, disrespect what brave Americans fought and died for. They are essentially spitting in the faces and on the graves of real men, men who have actually done something for this country beside playing with a ball and believing they’re something special! They’re not! My Marines and Soldiers were!

[link to app.ijr.com]
 Quoting: *Flame Thrower*


those brave americans fought for americans to have the freedoms to protest anything they feel they need to protest


VETERANS SUPPORT THE RIGHT TO PROTEST


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16679405


We are complaining that the NFL is allowing the protests. Players can protest on their own time.
 Quoting: *Flame Thrower*


The NFL is a Corporation and the United States of America is the Umbrella Corporation.


If therefore the NFL implements policies destructive of the Umbrella Corporation, put it out in the rain.
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Otherwise, it rests under the arms of the Eagle.
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Now I watch multi-millionaire athletes who never did anything in their lives but play a game, disrespect what brave Americans fought and died for. They are essentially spitting in the faces and on the graves of real men, men who have actually done something for this country beside playing with a ball and believing they’re something special! They’re not! My Marines and Soldiers were!

[link to app.ijr.com]
 Quoting: *Flame Thrower*


those brave americans fought for americans to have the freedoms to protest anything they feel they need to protest


VETERANS SUPPORT THE RIGHT TO PROTEST


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16679405


We are complaining that the NFL is allowing the protests. Players can protest on their own time.
 Quoting: *Flame Thrower*




no, you said yourself they are disrespecting what brave americans fought and died for and those brave americans who fought and lived are supporting his right to protest... BECAUSE THAT"S WHAT THEY FOUGHT FOR
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That is a quote from the article which is titled "Marine Colonel's Letter to NFL Commish for Allowing National Anthem Protests".
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Now I watch multi-millionaire athletes who never did anything in their lives but play a game, disrespect what brave Americans fought and died for. They are essentially spitting in the faces and on the graves of real men, men who have actually done something for this country beside playing with a ball and believing they’re something special! They’re not! My Marines and Soldiers were!

[link to app.ijr.com]
 Quoting: *Flame Thrower*


those brave americans fought for americans to have the freedoms to protest anything they feel they need to protest


VETERANS SUPPORT THE RIGHT TO PROTEST


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16679405


We are complaining that the NFL is allowing the protests. Players can protest on their own time.
 Quoting: *Flame Thrower*




no, you said yourself they are disrespecting what brave americans fought and died for and those brave americans who fought and lived are supporting his right to protest... BECAUSE THAT"S WHAT THEY FOUGHT FOR
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No one is saying they don't have the right to protest. They just don't have the right to protest while under contract with the NFL and their teams. They can do it on their own time, but if they do it while on the clock, they should be suspended.

This is NOT speech protected by the 1st amendment.

And I am a Veteren and retired LEO who has defended the 1st amendment, first hand, countless times in my career. This would not be one of them. The veterens defending these protests obviously are not taking into account the contracts these players signed, outlining what is acceptable conduct.

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Now I watch multi-millionaire athletes who never did anything in their lives but play a game, disrespect what brave Americans fought and died for. They are essentially spitting in the faces and on the graves of real men, men who have actually done something for this country beside playing with a ball and believing they’re something special! They’re not! My Marines and Soldiers were!

[link to app.ijr.com]
 Quoting: *Flame Thrower*


kapernic and his sympathizers are deplorable.

However should we just cancel out the first amendment?

I cant stress enough my feelings about this worm, but this old leatherneck stands with our founding fathers
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This is not a first amendment issue. When someone is on the clock, under contract, and collecting a paycheck, they don't have the right to say what they want. They are subject to employee conduct clauses. This is the case for military, law enforcement, the medical field, and most definitely professional sports.

The NFL teams absolutely have the power to enforce their conduct clauses and it absolutely would NOT be a violation of players 1st amendment rights, but some are too cowardly to do it.

I bet there will be teams, that don't have any players who do this, because they quietly told their players it will not be tolerated.
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In the absence of any discipline or even a statement by his direct employer, the 69's, the ones who sign his check, he is fully in first amendment teritory.
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Now I watch multi-millionaire athletes who never did anything in their lives but play a game, disrespect what brave Americans fought and died for. They are essentially spitting in the faces and on the graves of real men, men who have actually done something for this country beside playing with a ball and believing they’re something special! They’re not! My Marines and Soldiers were!

[link to app.ijr.com]
 Quoting: *Flame Thrower*


kapernic and his sympathizers are deplorable.

However should we just cancel out the first amendment?

I cant stress enough my feelings about this worm, but this old leatherneck stands with our founding fathers
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73014981


This is not a first amendment issue. When someone is on the clock, under contract, and collecting a paycheck, they don't have the right to say what they want. They are subject to employee conduct clauses. This is the case for military, law enforcement, the medical field, and most definitely professional sports.

The NFL teams absolutely have the power to enforce their conduct clauses and it absolutely would NOT be a violation of players 1st amendment rights, but some are too cowardly to do it.

I bet there will be teams, that don't have any players who do this, because they quietly told their players it will not be tolerated.
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In the absence of any discipline or even a statement by his direct employer, the 69's, the ones who sign his check, he is fully in first amendment teritory.
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The complaints are directed at his employer. Don't you get it??
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To me the interesting thing is why didn't these protests occur 10,15,20,30 years ago ? Why now? What's changed? It's funny how this crap reared its head once Obama became POTUS. Manipulation an change you can believe in.
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Now I watch multi-millionaire athletes who never did anything in their lives but play a game, disrespect what brave Americans fought and died for. They are essentially spitting in the faces and on the graves of real men, men who have actually done something for this country beside playing with a ball and believing they’re something special! They’re not! My Marines and Soldiers were!

[link to app.ijr.com]
 Quoting: *Flame Thrower*


kapernic and his sympathizers are deplorable.

However should we just cancel out the first amendment?

I cant stress enough my feelings about this worm, but this old leatherneck stands with our founding fathers
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73014981


This is not a first amendment issue. When someone is on the clock, under contract, and collecting a paycheck, they don't have the right to say what they want. They are subject to employee conduct clauses. This is the case for military, law enforcement, the medical field, and most definitely professional sports.

The NFL teams absolutely have the power to enforce their conduct clauses and it absolutely would NOT be a violation of players 1st amendment rights, but some are too cowardly to do it.

I bet there will be teams, that don't have any players who do this, because they quietly told their players it will not be tolerated.
 Quoting: mport81


In the absence of any discipline or even a statement by his direct employer, the 69's, the ones who sign his check, he is fully in first amendment teritory.
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No he is not. The 1st ammendment protection only comes into effect when someone tries to stop said speech. If the Niners told him he had to stop, because of the contract he signed, he would not receive that protection.

Just because the Niners have decided for whatever reason not to enforce his conduct clause doesn't mean he is within his 1st ammendment rights, he is just getting a pass on the contract.

The main point is, if any of the NFL team told or have told players they can not protest, it would not be a violation of the players1st ammendment rights. The teams would be well within their rights to do so, that many haven't shows just how afraid they are of the PC, SJW and liberal MSM cabal. Sad really.

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To me the interesting thing is why didn't these protests occur 10,15,20,30 years ago ? Why now? What's changed? It's funny how this crap reared its head once Obama became POTUS. Manipulation an change you can believe in.
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Are you kidding?


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All you guys will continue to support the NFL...
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To me the interesting thing is why didn't these protests occur 10,15,20,30 years ago ? Why now? What's changed? It's funny how this crap reared its head once Obama became POTUS. Manipulation an change you can believe in.
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Are you kidding?



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Oh fuck that. No soldier has defended this country since the Revolutionary War.
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that hurts because it's true. they'll hurt their civilian neighbors all day long. manifest destiny my foot up your ass, and imminent domain yourself off to the grave, fucking military mafia.
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Oh fuck that. No soldier has defended this country since the Revolutionary War.
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that hurts because it's true. they'll hurt their civilian neighbors all day long. manifest destiny my foot up your ass, and imminent domain yourself off to the grave, fucking military mafia.
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My closest neighbors.

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Oh fuck that. No soldier has defended this country since the Revolutionary War.
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that hurts because it's true. they'll hurt their civilian neighbors all day long. manifest destiny my foot up your ass, and imminent domain yourself off to the grave, fucking military mafia.
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My closest neighbors.

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I haven't hurt a single one.
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Here, I AM the minority.
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To me the interesting thing is why didn't these protests occur 10,15,20,30 years ago ? Why now? What's changed? It's funny how this crap reared its head once Obama became POTUS. Manipulation an change you can believe in.
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Are you kidding?



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Yeah that speech was 53 years ago. I mentioned 10-30 years ago. The point being football players acting like SJW's. Where were they kneeling back then? Only until the past few years since America's number 1 Commander in Divisiveness showed up did this crap start.
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To me the interesting thing is why didn't these protests occur 10,15,20,30 years ago ? Why now? What's changed? It's funny how this crap reared its head once Obama became POTUS. Manipulation an change you can believe in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72948225


Are you kidding?



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Yeah that speech was 53 years ago. I mentioned 10-30 years ago. The point being football players acting like SJW's. Where were they kneeling back then? Only until the past few years since America's number 1 Commander in Divisiveness showed up did this crap start.
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Who cares?

You have authority over only ONE, yourself.

If you don't have anything to protest, sit down and shut up.

Protesting the right to protest is self destructive.
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"No major military has invaded CONUS since the revolutionary war for a reason. We take the fight TO our enemies, before they bring it home to US. Pearl Harbor was a great example of what happens when you ignore an enemy, and that wasnt even an invasion force."

That's why Mexico and Canada and all the other countries in the Western Hemisphere keep getting invaded.
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You have been invaded by Mexican, Central American, and South American men, women and children for past 8 years.

Obama and his lackeys keep telling you its 11M illegals .... I'd be amazed if its under 35M.

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"No major military has invaded CONUS since the revolutionary war for a reason. We take the fight TO our enemies, before they bring it home to US. Pearl Harbor was a great example of what happens when you ignore an enemy, and that wasnt even an invasion force."

That's why Mexico and Canada and all the other countries in the Western Hemisphere keep getting invaded.
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You have been invaded by Mexican, Central American, and South American men, women and children for past 8 years.

Obama and his lackeys keep telling you its 11M illegals .... I'd be amazed if its under 35M.
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Guess how many the red man counts as illegal immigrants.
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It's all relative, eh Einstein?
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Wovoka say, don you're ghost shirts.
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I have never liked football, so my boycott is not saying much. However, each and every one of you should convince your loved ones to boycott the game. That is one way to get our message across.
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My parents won't boycott that shit. They worship the steelers and the nfl every weekend. Although I'm a big hockey fan I can make do missing multiple Pens games a season. There are bigger issues to focus on than watching physically fit people do their jobs. I just hate the ego behind the nfl. I think football fans are the worst
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I have never liked football, so my boycott is not saying much. However, each and every one of you should convince your loved ones to boycott the game. That is one way to get our message across.
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My parents won't boycott that shit. They worship the steelers and the nfl every weekend. Although I'm a big hockey fan I can make do missing multiple Pens games a season. There are bigger issues to focus on than watching physically fit people do their jobs. I just hate the ego behind the nfl. I think football fans are the worst
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Is that an official confirmation that the shit has hit the fans?
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I have never liked football, so my boycott is not saying much. However, each and every one of you should convince your loved ones to boycott the game. That is one way to get our message across.
 Quoting: Fry The Deplorable Brain


My parents won't boycott that shit. They worship the steelers and the nfl every weekend. Although I'm a big hockey fan I can make do missing multiple Pens games a season. There are bigger issues to focus on than watching physically fit people do their jobs. I just hate the ego behind the nfl. I think football fans are the worst
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Is that an official confirmation that the shit has hit the fans?
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Or perhaps chalk it up to a personal foul.

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I have never liked football, so my boycott is not saying much. However, each and every one of you should convince your loved ones to boycott the game. That is one way to get our message across.
 Quoting: Fry The Deplorable Brain


My parents won't boycott that shit. They worship the steelers and the nfl every weekend. Although I'm a big hockey fan I can make do missing multiple Pens games a season. There are bigger issues to focus on than watching physically fit people do their jobs. I just hate the ego behind the nfl. I think football fans are the worst
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Is that an official confirmation that the shit has hit the fans?
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lmao
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