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Has anyone had an increased number of drug overdoses in their area? Heroin OD reaching unprecedented numbers in last month..
Serious question..

In the last 6 months, guys from school i knew when I was younger who had drug related issues are all dieing from heroin OD... The count is up to 5... So is there something in this shit recently? Or is that once you hit 30, the body has finally had enough? I'm in the North East, NYC tri state area.. I had a close childhood friend die last night.. It's becoming almost like clockwork..

Let me know what you think..


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In trying to research NJ.. I've come across some serious shit.. Heroin abusers are overdosing in unprecedented numbers.. Wtf is going on?..

[link to www.nj.com]

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[link to www.khou.com]

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That would make sense right? Nope. Upper middle..White boys,
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NJj Heroin OVERDOSES TRIPLE THE NATIONAL AVERAGE


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How is that possible?
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Re: Has anyone had an increased number of drug overdoses in their area? Heroin OD reaching unprecedented numbers in last month..
The better question would be, has anyone not?
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Re: Has anyone had an increased number of drug overdoses in their area? Heroin OD reaching unprecedented numbers in last month..
From Cleveland to Cincinnati there were over 90 OD's last week, don't know what this weeks junkies toll is. They are calling it Elephant Heroin its got large animal tranquilizer in it.
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Milwaukee, Wisconsin has had north of 70 heroin deaths in the past three months...way, way above previous rates.
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I don't understand how dope dealers keep replacing all their customers who OD and die...think about it, it isn't good business to kill off your customers unless you have a steady stream of new customers to replace them.

I guess now that the govt is clamping down on pain meds for people who really need it and pushing them out onto the streets, things like this might become more common.

Glad I quit using when I did years ago, I wasn't far from that last blast-off.
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The better question would be, has anyone not?
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As soon as the kratom ban goes into effect at the end of month, we are going to see a huge influx of OD's, suicide's, heroin usage and emergency room visits.
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I don't understand how dope dealers keep replacing all their customers who OD and die...think about it, it isn't good business to kill off your customers unless you have a steady stream of new customers to replace them.

I guess now that the govt is clamping down on pain meds for people who really need it and pushing them out onto the streets, things like this might become more common.

Glad I quit using when I did years ago, I wasn't far from that last blast-off.
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This is what I'm thinking.. Dealers would never kill the golden goose... You think someone or the government is trying to rid the world of addicts?
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This is so strange
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dont believe everything u read. its all smoke and mirrors so the gov can justify the big heroine drug center in ITHACA,NY. then the druggies can get their fix via <u guess it> MY AND YOUR TAX $$. why they want it in upper-class ITHACA is beyond me thou.farthrst from ny and buffalo??? or do they want the bodies to dispose of themself in the lake?
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Re: Has anyone had an increased number of drug overdoses in their area? Heroin OD reaching unprecedented numbers in last month..
Serious question..

In the last 6 months, guys from school i knew when I was younger who had drug related issues are all dieing from heroin OD... The count is up to 5... So is there something in this shit recently? Or is that once you hit 30, the body has finally had enough? I'm in the North East, NYC tri state area.. I had a close childhood friend die last night.. It's becoming almost like clockwork..

Let me know what you think..


Edit..

In trying to research NJ.. I've come across some serious shit.. Heroin abusers are overdosing in unprecedented numbers.. Wtf is going on?..

[link to www.nj.com]

[link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)]

[link to www.khou.com]
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feyntanal man or how ever its spelled. thats what theese kids are getting dope cut with
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Re: Has anyone had an increased number of drug overdoses in their area? Heroin OD reaching unprecedented numbers in last month..
Serious question..

In the last 6 months, guys from school i knew when I was younger who had drug related issues are all dieing from heroin OD... The count is up to 5... So is there something in this shit recently? Or is that once you hit 30, the body has finally had enough? I'm in the North East, NYC tri state area.. I had a close childhood friend die last night.. It's becoming almost like clockwork..

Let me know what you think..


Edit..

In trying to research NJ.. I've come across some serious shit.. Heroin abusers are overdosing in unprecedented numbers.. Wtf is going on?..

[link to www.nj.com]

[link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)]

[link to www.khou.com]
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feyntanal man or how ever its spelled. thats what theese kids are getting dope cut with
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You'd think the dealers would stop this practice.. Losing a shit ton of money.. That's why something stinks..
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It's because they started cutting it with carfentanil which is a Elephant traq and 100 times stronger then fentanyl. Narcan doesn't even work with it.
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It's because they started cutting it with carfentanil which is a Elephant traq and 100 times stronger then fentanyl. Narcan doesn't even work with it.
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What is narcan?
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NJj Heroin OVERDOSES TRIPLE THE NATIONAL AVERAGE


[link to www.nj.com]


How is that possible?
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They are saying it is laced with fentynal. . (Sp?) and some others with an elephant tranquilizer.
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I don't understand how dope dealers keep replacing all their customers who OD and die...think about it, it isn't good business to kill off your customers unless you have a steady stream of new customers to replace them.

I guess now that the govt is clamping down on pain meds for people who really need it and pushing them out onto the streets, things like this might become more common.

Glad I quit using when I did years ago, I wasn't far from that last blast-off.
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This is what I'm thinking.. Dealers would never kill the golden goose... You think someone or the government is trying to rid the world of addicts?
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That was my thought honestly.
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must be heavy stuff
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I don't understand how dope dealers keep replacing all their customers who OD and die...think about it, it isn't good business to kill off your customers unless you have a steady stream of new customers to replace them.

I guess now that the govt is clamping down on pain meds for people who really need it and pushing them out onto the streets, things like this might become more common.

Glad I quit using when I did years ago, I wasn't far from that last blast-off.
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This is what I'm thinking.. Dealers would never kill the golden goose... You think someone or the government is trying to rid the world of addicts?
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Nope. It's greedy dealers.

They lace their heroin with fentanyl and its analogs, which are up to 10000x the strength of morphine. They've only become popular recently. Fentanyl analogs are cheaper than heroin to produce, as well as far stronger, and can be made in a lab(no smuggling) so they make a shit-ton of money. The amount of money they make far outweighs the loss from a few addicts ODing.

The problem with fentanyl is that it's extremely difficult to mix it evenly into another powder. Most dealers jsut do it in their appartment with no scientific knowledge. So they end up with "hot spots", clumps of powder with more fentanyl than the rest which is lethal to whichever lucky junkie injects it.
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damn. 72866290 coming in with the actual info.
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sounds like some good shit
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I don't understand how dope dealers keep replacing all their customers who OD and die...think about it, it isn't good business to kill off your customers unless you have a steady stream of new customers to replace them.

I guess now that the govt is clamping down on pain meds for people who really need it and pushing them out onto the streets, things like this might become more common.

Glad I quit using when I did years ago, I wasn't far from that last blast-off.
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This is what I'm thinking.. Dealers would never kill the golden goose... You think someone or the government is trying to rid the world of addicts?
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Nope. It's greedy dealers.

They lace their heroin with fentanyl and its analogs, which are up to 10000x the strength of morphine. They've only become popular recently. Fentanyl analogs are cheaper than heroin to produce, as well as far stronger, and can be made in a lab(no smuggling) so they make a shit-ton of money. The amount of money they make far outweighs the loss from a few addicts ODing.

The problem with fentanyl is that it's extremely difficult to mix it evenly into another powder. Most dealers jsut do it in their appartment with no scientific knowledge. So they end up with "hot spots", clumps of powder with more fentanyl than the rest which is lethal to whichever lucky junkie injects it.
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The newer analogs are also still technically legal in the U.S. which means they can be easily ordered over the Internet. I occasionally order legal psychedelic analogs & ran into a couple different sites that currently sale Furanylfentanyl...
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no worse then last year
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I don't understand how dope dealers keep replacing all their customers who OD and die...think about it, it isn't good business to kill off your customers unless you have a steady stream of new customers to replace them.

I guess now that the govt is clamping down on pain meds for people who really need it and pushing them out onto the streets, things like this might become more common.

Glad I quit using when I did years ago, I wasn't far from that last blast-off.
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This is what I'm thinking.. Dealers would never kill the golden goose... You think someone or the government is trying to rid the world of addicts?
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Nope. It's greedy dealers.

They lace their heroin with fentanyl and its analogs, which are up to 10000x the strength of morphine. They've only become popular recently. Fentanyl analogs are cheaper than heroin to produce, as well as far stronger, and can be made in a lab(no smuggling) so they make a shit-ton of money. The amount of money they make far outweighs the loss from a few addicts ODing.

The problem with fentanyl is that it's extremely difficult to mix it evenly into another powder. Most dealers jsut do it in their appartment with no scientific knowledge. So they end up with "hot spots", clumps of powder with more fentanyl than the rest which is lethal to whichever lucky junkie injects it.
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But... People are dieing in record numbers in the past month., it's gotta be more than a hot spot
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I don't understand how dope dealers keep replacing all their customers who OD and die...think about it, it isn't good business to kill off your customers unless you have a steady stream of new customers to replace them.

I guess now that the govt is clamping down on pain meds for people who really need it and pushing them out onto the streets, things like this might become more common.

Glad I quit using when I did years ago, I wasn't far from that last blast-off.
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This is what I'm thinking.. Dealers would never kill the golden goose... You think someone or the government is trying to rid the world of addicts?
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Nope. It's greedy dealers.

They lace their heroin with fentanyl and its analogs, which are up to 10000x the strength of morphine. They've only become popular recently. Fentanyl analogs are cheaper than heroin to produce, as well as far stronger, and can be made in a lab(no smuggling) so they make a shit-ton of money. The amount of money they make far outweighs the loss from a few addicts ODing.

The problem with fentanyl is that it's extremely difficult to mix it evenly into another powder. Most dealers jsut do it in their appartment with no scientific knowledge. So they end up with "hot spots", clumps of powder with more fentanyl than the rest which is lethal to whichever lucky junkie injects it.
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The newer analogs are also still technically legal in the U.S. which means they can be easily ordered over the Internet. I occasionally order legal psychedelic analogs & ran into a couple different sites that currently sale Furanylfentanyl...
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What is an analog?
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This is what I'm thinking.. Dealers would never kill the golden goose... You think someone or the government is trying to rid the world of addicts?
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Nope. It's greedy dealers.

They lace their heroin with fentanyl and its analogs, which are up to 10000x the strength of morphine. They've only become popular recently. Fentanyl analogs are cheaper than heroin to produce, as well as far stronger, and can be made in a lab(no smuggling) so they make a shit-ton of money. The amount of money they make far outweighs the loss from a few addicts ODing.

The problem with fentanyl is that it's extremely difficult to mix it evenly into another powder. Most dealers jsut do it in their appartment with no scientific knowledge. So they end up with "hot spots", clumps of powder with more fentanyl than the rest which is lethal to whichever lucky junkie injects it.
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The newer analogs are also still technically legal in the U.S. which means they can be easily ordered over the Internet. I occasionally order legal psychedelic analogs & ran into a couple different sites that currently sale Furanylfentanyl...
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What is an analog?
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"In chemistry, a structural analog, also known as a chemical analog or simply an analog, is a compound having a structure similar to that of another one, but differing from it in respect of a certain component."

- [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Basically Furanylfentanyl is an altered version of Fentanyl, which in turn makes it temporarily legal...

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Nope. It's greedy dealers.

They lace their heroin with fentanyl and its analogs, which are up to 10000x the strength of morphine. They've only become popular recently. Fentanyl analogs are cheaper than heroin to produce, as well as far stronger, and can be made in a lab(no smuggling) so they make a shit-ton of money. The amount of money they make far outweighs the loss from a few addicts ODing.

The problem with fentanyl is that it's extremely difficult to mix it evenly into another powder. Most dealers jsut do it in their appartment with no scientific knowledge. So they end up with "hot spots", clumps of powder with more fentanyl than the rest which is lethal to whichever lucky junkie injects it.
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The newer analogs are also still technically legal in the U.S. which means they can be easily ordered over the Internet. I occasionally order legal psychedelic analogs & ran into a couple different sites that currently sale Furanylfentanyl...
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What is an analog?
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"In chemistry, a structural analog, also known as a chemical analog or simply an analog, is a compound having a structure similar to that of another one, but differing from it in respect of a certain component."

- [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Basically Furanylfentanyl is an altered version of Fentanyl, which in turn makes it temporarily legal...
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Interesting.. Because the chemical compound is what makes a drug a drug right? So you tinker it a bit and bingo
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The newer analogs are also still technically legal in the U.S. which means they can be easily ordered over the Internet. I occasionally order legal psychedelic analogs & ran into a couple different sites that currently sale Furanylfentanyl...
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What is an analog?
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"In chemistry, a structural analog, also known as a chemical analog or simply an analog, is a compound having a structure similar to that of another one, but differing from it in respect of a certain component."

- [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Basically Furanylfentanyl is an altered version of Fentanyl, which in turn makes it temporarily legal...
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Interesting.. Because the chemical compound is what makes a drug a drug right? So you tinker it a bit and bingo
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yes.

the conspiracy about this subject is that the government is pushing this drama so they can turn laws around.
now they have to classify a drug to make it illegal. in the future everything whill be illegal unless its on a white list.
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To answer OP's question, in my area no.

In parts of far Southern Indiana where there are numerous meth labs yes the rate of deaths due to OD have increased but nowhere near the rate as that of NJ.
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NJ almost certainly has more open air drug markets than any state, except maybe Florida. Places like Newark, Jersey City, Patterson and Camden are huge distribution cities, as are literally dozens of others with large amounts of street sales.





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