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Why this Debate doesn't help Clinton | |
| The Big Aristotle User ID: 72893225  United States09/27/2016 12:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| agreed User ID: 72915251 United States09/27/2016 12:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem for Hillary is that most of the country could c are less about her concerns...She tried to be very concise and reasonable....but the issues she care's about are not the concerns of the country... People are concerned about money, about jobs going overseas,about law and order about immigration..Trump owns these issues... Hillary's health problems are not done, her blink rate was very abnormal,and at times she seemed to be tuning into something, either a vagus nerve stimulator implant, or some kind of frequency she was receiving....her concreteness was only a way of staying in control of herself.... |
jake  User ID: 73062536 United States09/27/2016 01:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is why she lost she sat on stage and gave the same democrat talking points as every other democrat. she lost hands down and she was smug.. People saw right through her.. Thread: 15 online Post Debate Polls Trump wins them All! Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
| jake User ID: 73062536 United States09/27/2016 01:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem for Hillary is that most of the country could c are less about her concerns...She tried to be very concise and reasonable....but the issues she care's about are not the concerns of the country... Quoting: agreed 72915251 People are concerned about money, about jobs going overseas,about law and order about immigration..Trump owns these issues... Hillary's health problems are not done, her blink rate was very abnormal,and at times she seemed to be tuning into something, either a vagus nerve stimulator implant, or some kind of frequency she was receiving....her concreteness was only a way of staying in control of herself.... That's 100% correct, She like obama is way out of touch with America.. Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
| Mack User ID: 60270511 United States09/27/2016 01:21 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I use a Vagus Nerve Stimulator;it's a surgically implanted device wrapped around the vagus nerve that goes from the neck up to the brain. Every 108 seconds mine delivers 200 microvolts to my brain so as to prevent epileptic seizures. The jolt continues for 30 seconds then shuts off for another 108 seconds. While it's operating my voice changes pitch and I have difficulty speaking. For a speech like the one Hillary Clinton performed I have a magnet that can be attached with surgical tape to the skin over a control unit surgically implanted under the left collarbone. This magnet switches off the Vagus Nerve Stimulator when it's held manually, or by surgical tape, in proximity to the control unit. The risk is that I could have a seizure during the time that the device is made inactive. For the debate Hillary Clinton might have used a double dose of her regular epileptic prescriptions, whatever her doctor chooses for her. Maybe Topiramate, Oxcarbazapine, Depecote,Clonazepam or a combination. One drug that I used years ago has a reputation for causing empotional distress. I think it was called Epidote. I remember going through hell with that before my neurologist switched to Oxcarbazepine. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71861331 United States09/27/2016 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is why she lost she sat on stage and gave the same Quoting: jake democrat talking points as every other democrat. she lost hands down and she was smug.. People saw right through her.. Thread: 15 online Post Debate Polls Trump wins them All!  Trump did do a good job of dismissing all of that: blah, blah, blah...its the same old talk and nothing happens |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71861331 United States09/27/2016 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem for Hillary is that most of the country could c are less about her concerns...She tried to be very concise and reasonable....but the issues she care's about are not the concerns of the country... Quoting: agreed 72915251 People are concerned about money, about jobs going overseas,about law and order about immigration..Trump owns these issues... Hillary's health problems are not done, her blink rate was very abnormal,and at times she seemed to be tuning into something, either a vagus nerve stimulator implant, or some kind of frequency she was receiving....her concreteness was only a way of staying in control of herself.... She did excessively wiggle her head and grin vapidly. I think you're right. She gave technical answers, threw out numbers that Lester the Jester wouldn't dream of fact-checking, but they were not on the concerns of the country. very generic on jobs. But it's also clear, they can't come back to birtherism or his taxes. he can use the second debate to attack more, and all her issues were avoided in this debate, so they are all game. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70858595 United States09/27/2016 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The first instinct of many people is to say: Hilary won the debate. Why? Quoting: The Big Aristotle 72893225 She looked Healthy. She was poised. She gave practiced answers. She Attacked Trump on experience, integrity. After the horrible month this sickly old woman had, it was important that she was juiced up and healthy in appearance. No doubt she succeeded. But Consider this: Any Attack dog / Over the top statement by Trump would have had the entire media attacking him. Trump failed to give them anything. He was also poised, he had no outbursts or low points or personal attacks aimed against her. This debate made him seem a viable Presidential Candidate in terms of his demeanor. Notice how Holt zeroed in on those issues: Your Tax Returns. You're a racist for asking for Obama's Birth Certificate. You are lying about our position on Iraq. Trump did not bite on any of them. Fundamentally, Lester Holt unloaded the entire leftwing six-shooter at Donald Trump and in the next debate, they are out of bullets. This is a remarkable setup for the Second Debate. 1. They can't bring up the birther issue anymore. 2. They can't bring up his tax returns anymore. 3. They can't call him deranged based on his last debate performance. In the second debate, Trump can now attack Clinton. He can still use Benghazi. He can still use the email servers. He can still use the Clinton Foundation. This was very smart on their part. They took all the hits and now are free to come back swinging the second debate. That debate will seal his victory. NICE SUMMARY & CONCLUSION OP! I like your interpretation and prediction and pray that it is accurate! |
| Eighthman User ID: 41063916 United States09/27/2016 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can also compare Hillary's smugness to Nixon's five o'clock shadow as to appearance in debates. The problem with your ideas is that she showed up and didn't collapse or cough. This may be enough to push her up in the polls - and maybe win. You are suggesting a "rope a dope" strategy from boxing and it may work but someone needs to come thru with more emails and evidence on Hillary. |
| Artemis Rand User ID: 65242103 United States09/27/2016 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Clinton treated this like she was competing in a high school debate club. That is why she lost. AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM: KICKING ASS, KILLING NAZIS, KILLING COMMIES, MAKING BABIES, BUILDING CITIES, EXPLORING SPACE, GOING TO THE MOON, AND PUTTING THE "CIVIL" IN CIVILIZATION SINCE 1776! ****************************** But I tell you this man, I tell you this, I carry an aura of "fuck you" everywhere I go and while I may not cause scenes I can sure as hell continue them and escalate them but good. ****************************** There is going to be a second revolution folks. Count on it - and it will be the citizens against the government. It will be damn bloody. It will be a war of attrition. It will result in over 100 million dead. The heavy handedness of the government - the fascists in code enforcement and animal control especially - have brought this upon themselves. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72261585 United States09/27/2016 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The first instinct of many people is to say: Hilary won the debate. Why? Quoting: The Big Aristotle 72893225 She looked Healthy. She was poised. She gave practiced answers. She Attacked Trump on experience, integrity. After the horrible month this sickly old woman had, it was important that she was juiced up and healthy in appearance. No doubt she succeeded. But Consider this: Any Attack dog / Over the top statement by Trump would have had the entire media attacking him. Trump failed to give them anything. He was also poised, he had no outbursts or low points or personal attacks aimed against her. This debate made him seem a viable Presidential Candidate in terms of his demeanor. Notice how Holt zeroed in on those issues: Your Tax Returns. You're a racist for asking for Obama's Birth Certificate. You are lying about our position on Iraq. Trump did not bite on any of them. Fundamentally, Lester Holt unloaded the entire leftwing six-shooter at Donald Trump and in the next debate, they are out of bullets. This is a remarkable setup for the Second Debate. 1. They can't bring up the birther issue anymore. 2. They can't bring up his tax returns anymore. 3. They can't call him deranged based on his last debate performance. In the second debate, Trump can now attack Clinton. He can still use Benghazi. He can still use the email servers. He can still use the Clinton Foundation. This was very smart on their part. They took all the hits and now are free to come back swinging the second debate. That debate will seal his victory. NICE SUMMARY & CONCLUSION OP! I like your interpretation and prediction and pray that it is accurate! I second this. Great, succinct analysis! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72990781  Spain09/27/2016 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | haha...trumps constant outbursts were poised? he is so entitled and it would be hilarious to see how he will dismantle what's left of the middle class. trickle down never worked in this country and that's his only policy position. the rich are going to take care of you...here comes the calvary, folks! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71861331 United States09/27/2016 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can also compare Hillary's smugness to Nixon's five o'clock shadow as to appearance in debates. Quoting: Eighthman 41063916 The problem with your ideas is that she showed up and didn't collapse or cough. This may be enough to push her up in the polls - and maybe win. You are suggesting a "rope a dope" strategy from boxing and it may work but someone needs to come thru with more emails and evidence on Hillary. Yes. The second round is more important than the first. Remember that Romney won the first debate against Obama by a huge margin. Everyone on the left came away depressed about it. But Obama had a much better second debate and tied Romney, the first debate was forgotten. This will be the same thing. They have to move on. No more about the taxes and birthers and calling people name, they used it all. Now Trump can strike at her honesty and he is still holding every card he started with. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71861331 United States09/27/2016 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | haha...trumps constant outbursts were poised? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72990781 he is so entitled and it would be hilarious to see how he will dismantle what's left of the middle class. trickle down never worked in this country and that's his only policy position. the rich are going to take care of you...here comes the calvary, folks! Yes. he was poised. He did not attack her. You are mistaking 'Poise' for 'polished'. He is not Polished. He isn't trying to memorize talking points, like you simpleton libtards like to hear from your propaganda masters. When he expresses anger and indignation about what Obama has done to this country THAT CONNECTS WITH MOST OF THE COUNTRY INCLUDING BLUE COLLAR DEMOCRATS. There is no such a thing as 'Trickle Down'. There is wealth creation. Just as a fact: We haven't had 'Trickle Down' for over a decade. The Wealth gap is LARGER NOW, not smaller. Trickle up Poverty doesn't work either. And a guy that plans and builds golf courses, high rises and hotels has done a lot more to create jobs for the middle class than a bobble-head dwarf prone to seizures that uses the power of government to shake down foreigners for handouts in exchange for tax payer money. |
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| Craazee8 User ID: 71861331 United States09/27/2016 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also with Clinton "appearing healthy," the Dems can't get rid of her. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72970322 Go, Trump! And every coughing fit, any signs of collapse just bring it back up. obviously she DOES NOT have the stamina to campaign in person at the level he did. She has to hide away and show up on TV where the Lester Holts of the world will protect. Every lunatic that screams allah akhbar as they murder someone helps trump. every illegal alien helps trump. THE ONLY THING THEY HAVE IS TRYING TO MAKE TRUMP APPEAR UNHINGED....and he didn't let them do it. |
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