Wow!!! Collapse Coming!!! INSIDER, GIVES HEADS UP ON THE COMING COLLAPSE OF THE AUTO BUBBLE

Interesting!

People finally figured out those cars are shit, that's why.

Thanks and

Interesting post, thanks.

At the rate Americans replace their cars, I'm surprised to hear the words auto bubble used in conjunction.

1/5th of production is crazy. What's behind it, OP, any idea?

Wish we could get a litmus test from other workers in car manufacturing OP.

I know im personally trying to stretch out my cars as long as possible, i cant help but feel many others are trying to do the same.

Results of "cash for clunkers", you can thank Obama for it, it had the opposite effect like everything else the libtards come up with.

Fuck Hyundai and all crap auto workers. They sell obsolete shit and impede technological progress. Build your OWN CAR @ Localmotors.com.

Fuck you, I own a Hyundai, best car I ever bought.

How is the Genesis and Veloster? Good cars?

You wont be saying that when they go tits up and you can't get a part for it.

I make car parts for ford and General Motors and I'm working 7 days a week so I'm gonna call bullshit

no need for cars like there use to be. Companies are offshoring and having employees work from home now. I drive less than 6k miles a year now since I started working from home 4 years ago.

Idiots are responding about the brand, other than the fact that cars and all other manufacturing is lagging. I work at textile manufacturer and orders for the upcoming holiday season (from majaor retailers) are non existant. The floor is retooled for holiday ware and the orders are not there. This manufacturer has had orders reduced by 20 percent per year since 2012. The bottom is ahead. This spring the baltic dry index told the story,it has improved, but still barely at WW1 levels. Wake up and see the larger picture you idiots who want to trash brand names.

Every damn person has a brand new car. It's all on credit. There is an auto bubble of sure.

Good time to start a repo company.

....THIS IS COMING FROM JUST ABOU TTHE MOST COMPETITIVE AUTO PRODUCER IN THE WORLD..KOREA WITH SOME CHINESE CHEAP LABOR

IF IT HAPPENS TO KIA THEN COVER YER ASSES!!!

same happening in michigan

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It is time to prepare for the worst. And the NSA is there to make good and sure that if you do succeed in setting yourself up to get through this wave of B.S., you will be pegged in advance and taken out early. They have obviously not given up on the final smack down of America, perhaps what I post here will encourage the "Elite" who own the NSA to back off.

First of all, to stay safe from the NSA, the following things must be known:

Secondly, if your car was made AFTER 2004, it is guaranteed to have an always on microphone and an engine control computer that maintains a full time cell connection. Your car has ears, and the NSA can tap it constantly. Obviously this is well known with all Onstar vehicles, but Onstar is ancient tech from the mid 90's everyone knows about. What is not known about by everyone is that ALL CARS SOLD IN THE U.S. were mandated to have an always on microphone by Federal law after 2004, and it does not matter if they are a Hyundai, Toyota or anything else. This was widely announced mid 2004 and then wiped from the web. They warned us, and then buried it.

Cars have long been known by the NSA to be safe havens from spying. When I was in the NSA they specifically stated that a moving car without a cell phone was considered a secure area where top secret information could be discussed. By mandating all cars have microphones, they took this option away from the public. Now, for this reason a 1990 Ford F-150 looks pretty good. Cash for "clunkers" probably had a secondary motive of removing the best of the best non-bugged cars from the public spectrum. Clunkers they were not, to qualify all cars had to be certified mechanically perfect for two consecutive years prior to trade in. If the car was not perfect across the board, it was not accepted. They destroyed zero real "clunkers".

You cannot bug out or make preparations with ANY car 2005 or newer, or ANY GM vehicle even from the mid 90's. Other manufacturers had onstar type technology built into every vehicle long before the Federal mandate for it existed, 2005 was the deadline for ALL. Using such a vehicle to bug out with will get you pegged instantly, and obviously, your bug out plan does NOT include a cell phone!

Marc was in US Army special ops during the first Gulf War. He told me that the car shutdowns will begin in July 2015. I never bet on dates, because the date is the most unpredictable factor in any future forecast. I was typing fast as he was talking, so it's sort of discombobulated.

-----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 12:51pm Subject: Info from Marc, Ex-US Army Special Ops Lockdown. Autos from 2006 (2005) have trackable technology. The Cash-for -Clunkers program was to take out many of the cars that cannot be hacked. They can shut off cars so that they're immobile. Rural dwellers will be told to move to cities. ECUs (electronic control units) in cars communicate with GSM which communicate to cell towers in the programs: "gossimer" or "triggerfish." Everything is operating off of GSM: bombing, drones, vehicle traffic, etc. Smart devices in the home goes through NIST system. Marc noticed that his 2011 pickup had digits and letters going across his car radio display . A cop told him that he was being hacked. His 2011, and all post 2005 cars, has an electronic steering box. The GSM told his steering box to turn 90 degrees to the right, which tried to run him into the river bank. GSM can also tell your ECU to deploy the airbag when you're doing 70 mph. That impact will throw you out of control of your car, and to your death.

They are going to shut down cars, and lock us down with smart car technology, and force us into the train transportation system,. We will be forced to accept mass transportation. ECU has a bluetooth adaptor to make the car be commanded from incoming GSM commands. HuffPost reported the driverless car. This makes you a victim to whatever maneuver they can force your car into. Daimler, Mercedes, BMW, Cooper. Michael Hastings's death was their test of the system. His story was about to target all the way up to the White House.

Remember how Andrew Breitbart was assassinated just before he was to release a video. Obama handed off this program to DARPA. CashForClunkers program was to get rid of the non-controllable older cars. Inside dashboards or inside A/C vents there are sensors which monitor temperature and automatically adjust cabin environment, but they send back messages to the auto companies, reporting the number of passengers in the car by their body heat. It can also detect children and pets. The Electronic steering box is commanded from open air GSM transmitted signals. The steering angle solenoid is what triggers the airbag. They can prevent the airbags from deploying. The guy who hit Marc had AIDS, herpes, and was dying. That man signed a contract to take Marc out. Marc's brakes, airbags and seatbelts failed during his accident. ABS system, airbags and seatbelts can be disabled by transmitted GSM death commands. Marc is still alive because his driving course at Quantico, Virginia taught him to cut the wheel all the way to the left or right to minimize the impact force so that there is a side impact, rather than a frontal impact.

The mass train transportation system is the final stake in the heart of America. Lexus-Nexus is the reporting agency for everything about you. Marc learned from an insurance agent that financial, medical, insurance companies have access to all of his information. So they use this auto risky driver info to deprive you of your driving right. It's designed to force people out of their cars. Lexus-Nexus is the ultimate in profiling. The train program is just one part of the entire mass control grid matrix. All cars from 2005 on are fly by wire and are automatic execution vehicles. July 2015 is the public mass train transport date. They're going to electronically shut down the cars and force everyone to take the train. They'll say, hey, trains are cheaper than auto insurance. It's not just about the trains. It's everything. What you do to defeat GSM=>in-car-ECU. . the GSM transmits a pulse received by your ECU. Disconnect all the plugs on the ECU, if you can access it. There is a nipple-like receiver at the center of your dashboard, near the windshield.

No doubt cash for clunkers was a black op for destroying the best secure cars out there. Did you know: In order to qualify for destruction under the cash for clunkers program, the car had to have had no mechanical issues for two years prior to being destroyed, could not have changed owners, the whole 9 yards. They made good and sure they destroyed the best of the best cars, which had absolutely no mechanical issues whatsoever. If your car had any mechanical issues in the two years prior, it did not qualify for the program. Additionally, if it was too old (as a real clunker would have been), it did not qualify and the program accepted and destroyed perfectly good cars as little as six years old (all the way up to 2003 model year). Considering when that all took place, were they destroying clunkers? Hell no!

President Obama's recent request to Congress to declare war on ISIS may be the pretext for a false flag nuclear attack, from which they will then use the EMP as an excuse to explain why all the cars died, when really it was a remote command sent to shut them off.

Be ready for a false flag nuclear attack on American soil this summer if any of this is real at all, and as I have said before, rather than being susceptible to EMP, modern electronics (of the type found in a laptop or LCD tv) are in fact completely immune to a nuclear EMP because they are too small to couple with the EMP signal and on top of this have protection diodes in many places which completely renders any (NUCLEAR) Emp harmless. Obviously a high frequency EMP in the GHZ range will fry them, but with nuclear EMP's averaging 1/1000th that frequency, they simply cannot drive energy into a modern micro circuit. A nuclear EMP can only affect the grid, or possibly blow a starter motor, but that is the end of it, it cannot blow a car completely out.

HERE IS WHAT A NUCLEAR EMP CAN AFFECT IN THIS DAY AND AGE:

1. The grid.
2. Land line telephones.
3. Extremely long run computer networks which use the old twisted pair wire.
If the nuke goes off less than 15 miles away, the following may be affected:

4. AM radios, due to their antenna type
5. Electric motors, due to their long windings.
6. Microwave ovens, due to their large transformers (but this may be offset by the fact a microwave is a defacto faraday cage)
7. Any electrical device which, as part of it's design has a very long wire (200 feet or more long) in it somewhere. This could be found in a high inductance coil, which most modern electronics will no longer have.
Ignition coils in cars are proven immune from past experience during testing, most likely because they are designed to produce a huge electrical pulse to fire the spark plugs and are robust enough to handle a nuclear EMP. The same is mostly true for any motor.

So if they use a nuclear EMP for their car shut down psy op, which will really be triggered by the cell phone network, do not be gullible and fall for it! (and ditto for your computer, cell phone, etc.)
I have been heavily ridiculed for saying nuclear EMP could never blow out a laptop, and that laptop computers are usually completely EMP shielded. Experts have told other experts who have told other experts that laptop computers have no shielding in them whatsoever and I have been forced to bow to idiots in the past. But laptops HAVE TO have TONS of shielding to meet FCC requirements, they are among the most heavily shielded devices out there, and definitely the champion of portable devices.

The following image shows some of the shielding a laptop has. Though this picture was not taken to show you the shielding, a lot of it is still visible. 1. The gold color on the bottom of the main case is conductive, and is the outer shield. All the backing for the outer case will have this color. 2. If you look at the screen components, the last one on the bottom of the stack is the shield for the back of the screen. Additionally, the plastic for the back of the screen (shown laying separately at the upper right, has another shield, so the screen in this particular laptop is double shielded. The grid for the front of the screen shields the front. 3. The keyboard back (which you cannot see in this photo) is made of aluminum and forms that part of the upper shield. 4. You can see the port shields in this photo, which shield the laptop from the sides. This is a pretty good photo considering it was not taken specifically to show all the shielding. I have taken photos to show all the shielding a laptop has clearly but cannot get to them because I am running without a hard drive right now.

The bottom line? If you don't believe (nuclear) EMP can't kill the circuits in a laptop, at least be aware that this shielding exists.

How do retailers know demand will be weak?

Normally they just hope for the best, right?

Only so many people can drive a car made by a company called Hyundai. It's like saying diarrhea. Change your name. Good cars now last 300000 miles. People will not forget cash for clunkers. Most unamerican thing yet. Plus a country that is 20 trillion in debt. And money backed by good faith. So a ford in 1955 was 1600 to 2900. Today average car price 34000.

Not sue if this is a sign or not but I work for a company that makes industrial grade pallets. Normally we're working 12 hour days this time of year cause every store in the land is gearing up for the Christmas rush.

Not this year though.

Orders from corporate are NO overtime what-so-ever. If an employee quits he is not replaced.

It's a little bit scary....

hahahahahahahahaha

BS

I work for a phone company in the Switch.
If we had to keep tabs on all the cars, your
phone calls would never go through.



where do you guy garbage?

straight from Steve Fail's site. ugh

That's what i was waiting to hear! It just like the housing bubble guys...credit (thus NEW cars)is being given to EVERYONE, regardless of credit rating, job status, etc..
NO CREDIT..NO PROBLEM! NO JOB? NO PROBLEM!
There are ads with the customers here in Seattle..."I used to couldn't drive and Bill Pierre Motors put me in a brand new car."
Well said = AC70742102...There is a HUGE auto bubble !!!

I would add that the LEASE programs are driving this I believe. I play a lot of poker in Seattle and the waitress drives a BRAND NEW Camaro convertible.(leased)It is a very cool car. LOL I am middle class and 61yo and have NEVER had a new car. These fucking kids are brainwashed that they all deserve to run around in a brand new car. My 21 yo niece insists she is getting a BRAND NEW yellow jeep...she is a part time waitress...LOL.

I got a Hyundai - nice car for a great price. Go suck a union man'c cock.