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How could the jubilee year have been 2015-2016 when nothing significant happened and why 2017 is the jubilee year

 
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Each year is actually 365 and 1/4 day long.... so we have a leap year every 4 years with the leap day feb. 29 to make up for this....

Maybe that was the issue?

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Prophetic years are 360 days as was given to Enoch. 4 days are the equinox and solstices and are not to be counted.
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Well that didn't work so well with the 1917 november 2nd to june 7 1967 50 years as it was 18,114 days between the two and prophetic years would have only been 18,000 days....114 shy so that is one time line we can delete when figuring jubilee years

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What
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Frank
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should we do the opposite?
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This means you don't know about him.

Or how Sabbateans work.
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What
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Frank
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should we do the opposite?
 Quoting: waterman


This means you don't know about him.

Or how Sabbateans work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69982257


I don't...tell us what you know...but you lost me here:


He rejected the Torah. He converted to both Islam and Catholicism

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There is no Jubilee outside of the shmita.

The Jubilee HAS to be the 50th year of 7 Shmita cycles.

From [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
"The first Shmita year in the modern State of Israel was 1951-52 (5712 in the Hebrew calendar). Subsequent Shmita years have been 1958–59 (5719), 1965–66 (5726), 1972–73 (5733), 1979–80 (5740), 1986–87 (5747), 1993–94 (5754), 2000–01 (5761), 2007–08 (5768), and 2014-15 (5775). The last Shmita year began on Rosh Hashanah in September 2014, corresponding to the Hebrew calendar year 5775. The 50th year of the land, which is also a Shabbat of the land, is called "Yovel" in Hebrew, which is the origin of the Latin term "Jubilee", also meaning 50th."

The Jubilee, by biblical standards, is therefore 5776-5777.
There is technically no explicit Biblical path to counting "from Jubilee to Jubilee." You must "get there" by finding where you are within the shmita cycle. You can "shortcut" it by counting 49 years from Jubilee to Jubilee. But it's the 50th year in a cycle – NOT "every 50 years." The beginning of the Jubilee year is also the beginning of the 1st year of the next Shmita cycle. If you count "every 50 years" from a Jubilee year, you will be out of sync with the established Shmita cycle, and the Jubilee has no meaning outside of it.

Autumn 1966 to autumn 1967 was a Jubilee. Autumn 1917 - autumn 1918 was a jubilee.

The Jubilee began autumn 2015 and just ended a few days ago.

But remember, the solar year is different from the lunar. They are two different realities. The solar year beginning only God knows, but you can bet it begins at the turn of the rainy season, starting November, and it is most likely this beginning that the purpose of the jubilee exists to herald.
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Info I came across last year while researching this topic had the Catholic (50th year) Jubilee from Dec 8 2015 until Nov 20 2016. Few seem to agree on these date ranges for some reason.
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I don't...tell us what you know...but you lost me here:


He rejected the Torah. He converted to both Islam and Catholicism
 Quoting: waterman


Yes, I wont tell you to read his works only that they are ribaldry and offensive in a vulgar way. What one would expect from such a man as him.

But, what he and his chums DID do is create the idea that only by soaking the Earth in blood, can they FORCE a messianic power to come.

And, it has been some 2 centuries plus since him and his ilk began their working. the 20th Century was the most vile and bloody ever, a complete disgrace to all humankind.

And so, even if and when that power comes, it is being called to face ==NO ONE, nothing OP, there is no rally point.

So what would Jacob do? He would claim to be a messiah and then not deliver. And that is exactly what Israel does right now. So, their rejection on the world stage and coming defeat, at the hand of some Mahdi, has begun, it would seem.
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There is no Jubilee outside of the shmita.

The Jubilee HAS to be the 50th year of 7 Shmita cycles.

From [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
"The first Shmita year in the modern State of Israel was 1951-52 (5712 in the Hebrew calendar). Subsequent Shmita years have been 1958–59 (5719), 1965–66 (5726), 1972–73 (5733), 1979–80 (5740), 1986–87 (5747), 1993–94 (5754), 2000–01 (5761), 2007–08 (5768), and 2014-15 (5775). The last Shmita year began on Rosh Hashanah in September 2014, corresponding to the Hebrew calendar year 5775. The 50th year of the land, which is also a Shabbat of the land, is called "Yovel" in Hebrew, which is the origin of the Latin term "Jubilee", also meaning 50th."

The Jubilee, by biblical standards, is therefore 5776-5777.
There is technically no explicit Biblical path to counting "from Jubilee to Jubilee." You must "get there" by finding where you are within the shmita cycle. You can "shortcut" it by counting 49 years from Jubilee to Jubilee. But it's the 50th year in a cycle – NOT "every 50 years." The beginning of the Jubilee year is also the beginning of the 1st year of the next Shmita cycle. If you count "every 50 years" from a Jubilee year, you will be out of sync with the established Shmita cycle, and the Jubilee has no meaning outside of it.

Autumn 1966 to autumn 1967 was a Jubilee. Autumn 1917 - autumn 1918 was a jubilee.

The Jubilee began autumn 2015 and just ended a few days ago.

But remember, the solar year is different from the lunar. They are two different realities. The solar year beginning only God knows, but you can bet it begins at the turn of the rainy season, starting November, and it is most likely this beginning that the purpose of the jubilee exists to herald.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11984886


Info I came across last year while researching this topic had the Catholic (50th year) Jubilee from Dec 8 2015 until Nov 20 2016. Few seem to agree on these date ranges for some reason.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73063728


odd dates...why did the catholics pick those dates
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I don't...tell us what you know...but you lost me here:


He rejected the Torah. He converted to both Islam and Catholicism
 Quoting: waterman


Yes, I wont tell you to read his works only that they are ribaldry and offensive in a vulgar way. What one would expect from such a man as him.

But, what he and his chums DID do is create the idea that only by soaking the Earth in blood, can they FORCE a messianic power to come.

And, it has been some 2 centuries plus since him and his ilk began their working. the 20th Century was the most vile and bloody ever, a complete disgrace to all humankind.

And so, even if and when that power comes, it is being called to face ==NO ONE, nothing OP, there is no rally point.

So what would Jacob do? He would claim to be a messiah and then not deliver. And that is exactly what Israel does right now. So, their rejection on the world stage and coming defeat, at the hand of some Mahdi, has begun, it would seem.
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The Golden Jubilee or the Fiftieth Jubilee since the Restoration of the Temple by order of Darius in 423 and under Ezra and Nehemiah by the Jubilee of 374/3 commences on 1 Abib of the First year of the 121st Jubilee or 2028. The Jubilee ends in 2077 CE. This Jubilee is the beginning of the Seventh Millennium since the closure of the Garden of Eden and the end of the formal rule of Satan. By this date in 2027 Satan’s rule has been cut short and he will be imprisoned, with the fallen Host, in Tartarus for one thousand years. This period commences the final phase of the Key of David and the restoration of the Temple and the administrative system in Jerusalem.
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Each year is actually 365 and 1/4 day long.... so we have a leap year every 4 years with the leap day feb. 29 to make up for this....

Maybe that was the issue?

banana2
 Quoting: sp@cec@se


Prophetic years are 360 days as was given to Enoch. 4 days are the equinox and solstices and are not to be counted.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68722329


Well that didn't work so well with the 1917 november 2nd to june 7 1967 50 years as it was 18,114 days between the two and prophetic years would have only been 18,000 days....114 shy so that is one time line we can delete when figuring jubilee years
 Quoting: waterman


Dan 9:25  Know H3045  therefore and understand, H7919  that from H4480  the going forth H4161  of the commandment H1697  to restore H7725  and to build H1129  Jerusalem H3389  unto H5704  the Messiah H4899  the Prince H5057  shall be seven H7651  weeks, H7620  and threescore H8346  and two H8147  weeks: H7620  the street H7339  shall be built H1129  again, H7725  and the wall, H2742  even in troublous H6695  times. H6256 



H5704
‎עַד
‛ad
ad
Properly the same as H5703 (used as a preposition, adverb or conjugation; especially with a preposition); as far (or long, or much) as, whether of space (even unto) or time (during, while, until) or degree (equally with): - against, and, as, at, before, by (that), even (to), for (-asmuch as), [hither-] to, + how long, into, as long (much) as, (so) that, till, toward, until, when, while, (+ as) yet.
Total KJV occurrences: 1224

It does not say that Messiah would arrive at the exact date. In other words... he is "even at the doors."

Mat 24:33  So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
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I don't...tell us what you know...but you lost me here:


He rejected the Torah. He converted to both Islam and Catholicism
 Quoting: waterman


Yes, I wont tell you to read his works only that they are ribaldry and offensive in a vulgar way. What one would expect from such a man as him.

But, what he and his chums DID do is create the idea that only by soaking the Earth in blood, can they FORCE a messianic power to come.

And, it has been some 2 centuries plus since him and his ilk began their working. the 20th Century was the most vile and bloody ever, a complete disgrace to all humankind.

And so, even if and when that power comes, it is being called to face ==NO ONE, nothing OP, there is no rally point.

So what would Jacob do? He would claim to be a messiah and then not deliver. And that is exactly what Israel does right now. So, their rejection on the world stage and coming defeat, at the hand of some Mahdi, has begun, it would seem.
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What would Jacob the 2nd born with the birthright do?...He would do what the God of Abraham Issac and Jacob told him to do.

You confuse Judah Israel the firstborn with Jacob Israel the 2nd born birthright holder
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There is no Jubilee outside of the shmita.

The Jubilee HAS to be the 50th year of 7 Shmita cycles.

From [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
"The first Shmita year in the modern State of Israel was 1951-52 (5712 in the Hebrew calendar). Subsequent Shmita years have been 1958–59 (5719), 1965–66 (5726), 1972–73 (5733), 1979–80 (5740), 1986–87 (5747), 1993–94 (5754), 2000–01 (5761), 2007–08 (5768), and 2014-15 (5775). The last Shmita year began on Rosh Hashanah in September 2014, corresponding to the Hebrew calendar year 5775. The 50th year of the land, which is also a Shabbat of the land, is called "Yovel" in Hebrew, which is the origin of the Latin term "Jubilee", also meaning 50th."

The Jubilee, by biblical standards, is therefore 5776-5777.
There is technically no explicit Biblical path to counting "from Jubilee to Jubilee." You must "get there" by finding where you are within the shmita cycle. You can "shortcut" it by counting 49 years from Jubilee to Jubilee. But it's the 50th year in a cycle – NOT "every 50 years." The beginning of the Jubilee year is also the beginning of the 1st year of the next Shmita cycle. If you count "every 50 years" from a Jubilee year, you will be out of sync with the established Shmita cycle, and the Jubilee has no meaning outside of it.

Autumn 1966 to autumn 1967 was a Jubilee. Autumn 1917 - autumn 1918 was a jubilee.

The Jubilee began autumn 2015 and just ended a few days ago.

But remember, the solar year is different from the lunar. They are two different realities. The solar year beginning only God knows, but you can bet it begins at the turn of the rainy season, starting November, and it is most likely this beginning that the purpose of the jubilee exists to herald.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11984886


Info I came across last year while researching this topic had the Catholic (50th year) Jubilee from Dec 8 2015 until Nov 20 2016. Few seem to agree on these date ranges for some reason.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73063728


odd dates...why did the catholics pick those dates
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My notes indicate it started on the day of the Feast of the Immaculate Conception. Why it ended on Nov 20 I didn't make note of.
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What would Jacob the 2nd born with the birthright do?...He would do what the God of Abraham Issac and Jacob told him to do.

You confuse Judah Israel the firstborn with Jacob Israel the 2nd born birthright holder
 Quoting: waterman


Hehe WHAT birthright

There is no such thing in Hebrew culture

No birthright can be offered as there was no King offered to Abraham, just offspring. The bible is referring to the Aten, the Pharaonic birthright, as, Isaac was from Thutmosis not Abe. This ties into the whole Sabbatean thing, as Abe offered his wife up, so as to be a "Kingbreeder", if you will.

You know your loop OP, you just are out of this one. It's okay we got this.
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There is no Jubilee outside of the shmita.

The Jubilee HAS to be the 50th year of 7 Shmita cycles.

From [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
"The first Shmita year in the modern State of Israel was 1951-52 (5712 in the Hebrew calendar). Subsequent Shmita years have been 1958–59 (5719), 1965–66 (5726), 1972–73 (5733), 1979–80 (5740), 1986–87 (5747), 1993–94 (5754), 2000–01 (5761), 2007–08 (5768), and 2014-15 (5775). The last Shmita year began on Rosh Hashanah in September 2014, corresponding to the Hebrew calendar year 5775. The 50th year of the land, which is also a Shabbat of the land, is called "Yovel" in Hebrew, which is the origin of the Latin term "Jubilee", also meaning 50th."

The Jubilee, by biblical standards, is therefore 5776-5777.
There is technically no explicit Biblical path to counting "from Jubilee to Jubilee." You must "get there" by finding where you are within the shmita cycle. You can "shortcut" it by counting 49 years from Jubilee to Jubilee. But it's the 50th year in a cycle – NOT "every 50 years." The beginning of the Jubilee year is also the beginning of the 1st year of the next Shmita cycle. If you count "every 50 years" from a Jubilee year, you will be out of sync with the established Shmita cycle, and the Jubilee has no meaning outside of it.

Autumn 1966 to autumn 1967 was a Jubilee. Autumn 1917 - autumn 1918 was a jubilee.

The Jubilee began autumn 2015 and just ended a few days ago.

But remember, the solar year is different from the lunar. They are two different realities. The solar year beginning only God knows, but you can bet it begins at the turn of the rainy season, starting November, and it is most likely this beginning that the purpose of the jubilee exists to herald.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11984886


Info I came across last year while researching this topic had the Catholic (50th year) Jubilee from Dec 8 2015 until Nov 20 2016. Few seem to agree on these date ranges for some reason.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73063728


odd dates...why did the catholics pick those dates
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Catholics have no authority to declare a Jubile. It has to be done by Jews in Israel in accordance with Torah.

Catholics abandoned Hebrew calendar thus disregarding the Torah.
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Each year is actually 365 and 1/4 day long.... so we have a leap year every 4 years with the leap day feb. 29 to make up for this....

Maybe that was the issue?

banana2
 Quoting: sp@cec@se


Prophetic years are 360 days as was given to Enoch. 4 days are the equinox and solstices and are not to be counted.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68722329


Well that didn't work so well with the 1917 november 2nd to june 7 1967 50 years as it was 18,114 days between the two and prophetic years would have only been 18,000 days....114 shy so that is one time line we can delete when figuring jubilee years
 Quoting: waterman


Dan 9:25  Know H3045  therefore and understand, H7919  that from H4480  the going forth H4161  of the commandment H1697  to restore H7725  and to build H1129  Jerusalem H3389  unto H5704  the Messiah H4899  the Prince H5057  shall be seven H7651  weeks, H7620  and threescore H8346  and two H8147  weeks: H7620  the street H7339  shall be built H1129  again, H7725  and the wall, H2742  even in troublous H6695  times. H6256 



H5704
‎עַד
‛ad
ad
Properly the same as H5703 (used as a preposition, adverb or conjugation; especially with a preposition); as far (or long, or much) as, whether of space (even unto) or time (during, while, until) or degree (equally with): - against, and, as, at, before, by (that), even (to), for (-asmuch as), [hither-] to, + how long, into, as long (much) as, (so) that, till, toward, until, when, while, (+ as) yet.
Total KJV occurrences: 1224

It does not say that Messiah would arrive at the exact date. In other words... he is "even at the doors."

Mat 24:33  So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
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I didn't know if you were cussing at me or just copy pasting...lol#$%#%$#@^J^

It tells us the anointed one arrives in the the 49th year...so we are not yet in the 50th year...and the word messiah is deceiving...messiah simply means "anointed one"....God always sends an anointed one before judgement whether it be noah..lot.. jonah or Elijah(malachi 5:2)

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OP the talmud says Isaac looked nothing like Abraham

Thats a key okay? All the bastard little shits like Billy Jeff Rockefeller and Shicklegruber and endless sabbatean assheads, are big time destroyers of the family.

Shickles and Himmler ran a baby making factory called Leibensrahm, where infants had the SS sagger touched to their forehead, the SS and Rome are infested with what can only be called as "Gen 2 Muslims" they will bow to mecca not because they believe in Jehovah but because they hate him, and it's funny because to me, Jehovah need not be the supreme God, to still be the God of Earth. It's not if he can save Earth, its, "Can he ruin it again and save a family" and yes, he can.
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There is no Jubilee outside of the shmita.

The Jubilee HAS to be the 50th year of 7 Shmita cycles.

From [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
"The first Shmita year in the modern State of Israel was 1951-52 (5712 in the Hebrew calendar). Subsequent Shmita years have been 1958–59 (5719), 1965–66 (5726), 1972–73 (5733), 1979–80 (5740), 1986–87 (5747), 1993–94 (5754), 2000–01 (5761), 2007–08 (5768), and 2014-15 (5775). The last Shmita year began on Rosh Hashanah in September 2014, corresponding to the Hebrew calendar year 5775. The 50th year of the land, which is also a Shabbat of the land, is called "Yovel" in Hebrew, which is the origin of the Latin term "Jubilee", also meaning 50th."

The Jubilee, by biblical standards, is therefore 5776-5777.
There is technically no explicit Biblical path to counting "from Jubilee to Jubilee." You must "get there" by finding where you are within the shmita cycle. You can "shortcut" it by counting 49 years from Jubilee to Jubilee. But it's the 50th year in a cycle – NOT "every 50 years." The beginning of the Jubilee year is also the beginning of the 1st year of the next Shmita cycle. If you count "every 50 years" from a Jubilee year, you will be out of sync with the established Shmita cycle, and the Jubilee has no meaning outside of it.

Autumn 1966 to autumn 1967 was a Jubilee. Autumn 1917 - autumn 1918 was a jubilee.

The Jubilee began autumn 2015 and just ended a few days ago.

But remember, the solar year is different from the lunar. They are two different realities. The solar year beginning only God knows, but you can bet it begins at the turn of the rainy season, starting November, and it is most likely this beginning that the purpose of the jubilee exists to herald.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11984886


Info I came across last year while researching this topic had the Catholic (50th year) Jubilee from Dec 8 2015 until Nov 20 2016. Few seem to agree on these date ranges for some reason.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73063728


odd dates...why did the catholics pick those dates
 Quoting: waterman


My notes indicate it started on the day of the Feast of the Immaculate Conception. Why it ended on Nov 20 I didn't make note of.
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What would Jacob the 2nd born with the birthright do?...He would do what the God of Abraham Issac and Jacob told him to do.

You confuse Judah Israel the firstborn with Jacob Israel the 2nd born birthright holder
 Quoting: waterman


Hehe WHAT birthright

There is no such thing in Hebrew culture

No birthright can be offered as there was no King offered to Abraham, just offspring. The bible is referring to the Aten, the Pharaonic birthright, as, Isaac was from Thutmosis not Abe. This ties into the whole Sabbatean thing, as Abe offered his wife up, so as to be a "Kingbreeder", if you will.

You know your loop OP, you just are out of this one. It's okay we got this.
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might wanna look up who got the birthright in the book Issac 2nd born...Jacob 2nd born..Ephraim 2nd born..all 2nd borns who recieved the 1st born birthright...firstborn gets the sceptre 1 chronicles 5:2

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might wanna look up who got the birthright in the book Issac 2nd born...Jacob 2nd born..Ephraim 2nd born..all 2nd borns who recieved the 1st born birthright...firstborn gets the sceptre 1 chronicles 5:2
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That is all later BS

Nope, no King was promised.

Sodom is a real story tho, thats the one you need to read not your idiotic loop you are on.

You're on a hamster wheel OP, but you seem to be a nice hamster.
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Israel by holocausting (means: religous burnt offering) to their God

Won the prize of Israel and world Kingship, they now dominate and kill the whole notion of Jesus, as they say "No one can touch us except civil war"

and so thats what they will get.

It upsets them, but they were not messianic, they were blood drinking asheads that used the Germans to get what they desird and then dumped all the Germans, and also Poland, Ukies all got fucked up in between the Red fuckin Jew Army, and the duped Germans, run by Shickles a closet Jew.
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might wanna look up who got the birthright in the book Issac 2nd born...Jacob 2nd born..Ephraim 2nd born..all 2nd borns who recieved the 1st born birthright...firstborn gets the sceptre 1 chronicles 5:2
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That is all later BS

Nope, no King was promised.

Sodom is a real story tho, thats the one you need to read not your idiotic loop you are on.

You're on a hamster wheel OP, but you seem to be a nice hamster.
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Ever heard of David Read Ezekiel 37
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Ever heard of David Read Ezekiel 37
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David was most likely Ahmose I who kicked out the Hyksos.

Ezekiel is a book that got into the bible yes, much later after Moses and Abe. Also there are two Genesis OP so you are a bit devoted to your hamster wheel but yes I know you and that you are a good bluename.
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So who is predicting what when now?
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Well, the pope has been busy-busy meeting with leaders of other religions and CEOs of social media.

The pope is also going to Sweden to kick off the 500th anniversary of the great Protestant Reformation, which is in 2017. Next year is also the 100th anniversary of demon "Mary" appearing to the three children at Fatima in Portugal. Next year is also a jubilee of jubilees.

It's bound to happen soon, and 2017 could be it. First time in history that all the signs are coming together in the political, financial, and religious world.
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To be honest OP Jesus already came he was Abe Lincoln, imo. Not a perfect man but a Christ like spirit that gave his life to fight the Jesuit scum and their Sabbatean Jew cohorts.

Also, seeing Abe as Jesus is sad for Rome but true for Americans, because to us he was that, black folks particularly.

Gave everything he had to strike a mighty blow, and also, Miller and all his people were then not wrong, all the Adventists and Miller were right, in 1837 Jesus was on Earth and went to law school. In this way we are only hmm, some 140 years into the 1000 year reign and can easily fix it by bringing his spirit back in our hearts.
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Ever heard of David Read Ezekiel 37
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David was most likely Ahmose I who kicked out the Hyksos.

Ezekiel is a book that got into the bible yes, much later after Moses and Abe. Also there are two Genesis OP so you are a bit devoted to your hamster wheel but yes I know you and that you are a good bluename.
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stick with the 66 books you will be better off

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Re: How could the jubilee year have been 2015-2016 when nothing significant happened and why 2017 is the jubilee year
Well, the pope has been busy-busy meeting with leaders of other religions and CEOs of social media.

The pope is also going to Sweden to kick off the 500th anniversary of the great Protestant Reformation, which is in 2017. Next year is also the 100th anniversary of demon "Mary" appearing to the three children at Fatima in Portugal. Next year is also a jubilee of jubilees.

It's bound to happen soon, and 2017 could be it. First time in history that all the signs are coming together in the political, financial, and religious world.
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Do you mean fake ass Jesuit Pope who stole the throne cold from Palpatine?

That guys a joke, nothing like Jesus in him, he wouldn't roll over shit to save shinola.
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Not sure why yall are looking at Jewish calendars and whatnot for "significant" event dates. Jesuits run the show from the Vatican. Modern day Israel is a prop piece set up by the British, on behalf of the Vatican. Most "Jews" we see in power positions are Khazars, not biblical Israelites, and they are actually Catholic agents. All roads lead to Rome, ya know.
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Well, the pope has been busy-busy meeting with leaders of other religions and CEOs of social media.

The pope is also going to Sweden to kick off the 500th anniversary of the great Protestant Reformation, which is in 2017. Next year is also the 100th anniversary of demon "Mary" appearing to the three children at Fatima in Portugal. Next year is also a jubilee of jubilees.

It's bound to happen soon, and 2017 could be it. First time in history that all the signs are coming together in the political, financial, and religious world.
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Do you mean fake ass Jesuit Pope who stole the throne cold from Palpatine?

That guys a joke, nothing like Jesus in him, he wouldn't roll over shit to save shinola.
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That escalated quickly...lol
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Not sure why yall are looking at Jewish calendars and whatnot for "significant" event dates. Jesuits run the show from the Vatican. Modern day Israel is a prop piece set up by the British, on behalf of the Vatican. Most "Jews" we see in power positions are Khazars, not biblical Israelites, and they are actually Catholic agents. All roads lead to Rome, ya know.
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We need to save the bible and Jehovah

From Israel.

Because they feel they run both now.

Yet "salvation" eludes Earthlings, even at this final moments of peace.
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Prophetic years are 360 days as was given to Enoch. 4 days are the equinox and solstices and are not to be counted.
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Well that didn't work so well with the 1917 november 2nd to june 7 1967 50 years as it was 18,114 days between the two and prophetic years would have only been 18,000 days....114 shy so that is one time line we can delete when figuring jubilee years
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Dan 9:25  Know H3045  therefore and understand, H7919  that from H4480  the going forth H4161  of the commandment H1697  to restore H7725  and to build H1129  Jerusalem H3389  unto H5704  the Messiah H4899  the Prince H5057  shall be seven H7651  weeks, H7620  and threescore H8346  and two H8147  weeks: H7620  the street H7339  shall be built H1129  again, H7725  and the wall, H2742  even in troublous H6695  times. H6256 



H5704
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Properly the same as H5703 (used as a preposition, adverb or conjugation; especially with a preposition); as far (or long, or much) as, whether of space (even unto) or time (during, while, until) or degree (equally with): - against, and, as, at, before, by (that), even (to), for (-asmuch as), [hither-] to, + how long, into, as long (much) as, (so) that, till, toward, until, when, while, (+ as) yet.
Total KJV occurrences: 1224

It does not say that Messiah would arrive at the exact date. In other words... he is "even at the doors."

Mat 24:33  So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
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I didn't know if you were cussing at me or just copy pasting...lol#$%#%$#@^J^

It tells us the anointed one arrives in the the 49th year...so we are not yet in the 50th year...and the word messiah is deceiving...messiah simply means "anointed one"....God always sends an anointed one before judgement whether it be noah..lot.. jonah or Elijah(malachi 5:2)
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The Jubile was 5776-5777 so it ended Oct 4 this year. We now have started the first year of the first shmita of the next Jubile cycle.





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