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Democrats' New 'Fairness' Push May Silence Conservative Radio Hosts, Critics Say
By Fred Lucas
CNSNews.com Staff Writer
January 17, 2007

(CNSNews.com) - Democrats in Congress are pushing for legislation that they say would bring more balance to the media, but critics say would muzzle conservative voices.

The Fairness Doctrine, a federal regulation requiring broadcasters to present both sides of a controversial issue, was enforced by the Federal Communications Commission from 1949 to 1987, when it was dropped during the Reagan administration.

Many in the broadcast industry credit the dropping of the rule to the rise of conservative talk radio that became a booming industry, featuring personalities like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham.

Bringing back the regulation will ensure more even-handed coverage of political issues, said Jeff Lieberson, spokesman for Rep. Maurice Hinchey (D-N.Y.), who has proposed the "Media Ownership Reform Act."

"The political interests of media owners can have a direct and indirect effect on the way news is presented to the public, so it's important that all sides are heard," Lieberson told Cybercast News Service Tuesday.

The Fairness Doctrine is a key component of Hinchey's bill, which also sets tighter limits on media ownership. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) has proposed a companion bill in the Senate.

"This is not an attempt to muzzle them at all," Lieberson said of conservative talk show hosts who are opposed to the Fairness Doctrine. "They will still be heard. This will ensure that different views that are not theirs will also be heard."

But muzzling is exactly what such a law would do, charged Cliff Kincaid of Accuracy in the Media, a conservative media watchdog group.

"Make no bones about it, they want to force the conservative media to hand over air time to liberals," Kincaid said in an interview. "When federal bureaucrats dictate the content of radio and TV shows, it's muzzling to tell them what to say and how to say it."

Many conservatives have long argued that the bulk of major newspapers, news magazines and network news programs tilt left and regard talk radio as an antidote.

"Liberals used to dominate the media, and they are irritated there are competing voices, so now they want to reign in the conservative media using the federal government," Kincaid continued. "There is no prohibition against liberal talk radio. Liberals tried talk radio and it was not successful in the market place."

Kincaid pointed to Air America, the liberal talk radio network started in 2004 that is now in bankruptcy but still operating with a limited audience.

The Fairness Doctrine was adopted by the FCC in 1949 as a regulation, never a law enacted by Congress. The effort now by Democrats in Congress is to codify the doctrine into law.

When the rule was in place, radio and TV stations could face hefty fines if their stations aired controversial statements on public affairs without providing equal time to opposing viewpoints. Critics said the result was self-censorship by timid broadcasters who avoided politics to escape any potential government retaliation.

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 1969 that the doctrine did not violate the First Amendment, because the airwaves belonged to the public and thus could face government regulation to which print media were not subjected.

After the FCC ditched the rule in 1987, Democratic lawmakers made several attempts to bring it back in statute. Those attempts were unsuccessful even when Democrats controlled both the White House and Congress in 1993 and 1994.

Despite the 1969 court ruling, Dennis Wharton, spokesman for the National Association of Broadcasters, told Cybercast News Service Tuesday it was fundamentally a First Amendment question.

"It was not appropriately named," Wharton said of the doctrine. "It was unfair in inhibiting broadcasters' free speech rights.

"There has been an explosion of viewpoints and coverage of issues since the elimination of the Fairness Doctrine," Wharton said. "It's been a boon for free expression."

Hinchey, chairman of the "Future of Media Caucus" in the House, is among several
Democratic lawmakers who spoke at the National Conference on Media Reform in Memphis, Tenn., this past weekend.

Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio), chairman of the House subcommittee on domestic policy, announced he would hold hearings on the media, which would include looking at restoring the Fairness Doctrine.

"We know the media has become the servant of a very narrow corporate agenda," Kucinich, a candidate for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination, reportedly told the Memphis event.

"We are now in a position to move a progressive agenda to where it is visible," he said.
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Monday, Sept. 15, 2003 11:15 p.m. EDT
Rush: Fairness Doctrine Spells Doom for Talk Radio

A push to re-institute the fairness doctrine represents a bid to "shut down" talk radio, top-rated host Rush Limbaugh warned on Friday.

"Liberals can't beat us in the arena of ideas ... so what they want to do is shut us down," he told his audience, in comments reported Monday by the New York Post's John Mainelli.

Unlike the equal time rule for political candidates, the fairness doctrine required radio and TV stations to represent both sides of controversial opinions.

New York Rep. Maurice Hinchey is pushing to bring it back.

"We need to undo all the previous damage that's been done over the last several years [and] re-establish the public's control of the airwaves, which has been eroded" since the doctrine was abandoned in 1987, Hinchey said three months ago.

But those who say broadcasting has somehow been hurt without the fairness doctrine ignore the fact that talk radio is flourishing like never before.

During the days of the fairness doctrine, there were just 125 talk-radio stations up and down the dial nationwide. After 16 years without the regulation, the number of stations has grown more than tenfold.

But that will all change, warned Limbaugh, if Hinchey and other opponents of talk radio get their wish.

"At some point, management says it's not worth it: 'I'm just not going to put on anything that's controversial,' " Rush predicted. "They know ... they're not going to get anywhere near the kind of audiences we have."
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"Liberals can't beat us in the arena of ideas ... so what they want to do is shut us down," he told his audience, in comments reported Monday by the New York Post's John Mainelli.




they have a different definition of free speach
its only accepted if it fits their agenda
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Ridiculous...if people wanted to listen to Liberal talk radio, they would, and Air America and NPR wouldn't be the financial disasters that they are.
The people have voted with their ears, and their dollars.
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Now ya'll are crying about civil liberties?
I really doubt you care about freedom of speach.
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Libs are by far the most hypocritical of all. Had I written this saying the republicans are making a law to silence liberal radio, this post would have been pinned and have five stars. In reality it could go that way if it is passed.

It is Stalinistic in every respect and to not see every single GLP member up in arms shows true colors. God, if it means getting Rush and Hannity off the air then its a good idea.

Hell if the Dems said they are going to build prision camps for conservatives, all the libs would be jumping up and down wanting to know where they can send building materials.
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Now ya'll are crying about civil liberties?
I really doubt you care about freedom of speach.
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so you agree that non liberal shows should be censored


[link to answers.yahoo.com]


Is that the only way for you to get your message out
by shuttin down others who disagree

sad so sadd
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Libs are by far the most hypocritical of all. Had I written this saying the republicans are making a law to silence liberal radio, this post would have been pinned and have five stars. In reality it could go that way if it is passed.

It is Stalinistic in every respect and to not see every single GLP member up in arms shows true colors. God, if it means getting Rush and Hannity off the air then its a good idea.

Hell if the Dems said they are going to build prision camps for conservatives, all the libs would be jumping up and down wanting to know where they can send building materials.
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But its their only way to fool peeps
With no plan or direction
They need to shut down the ones who will expose them for the frauds they realy are
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Now ya'll are crying about civil liberties?
I really doubt you care about freedom of speach.



so you agree that non liberal shows should be censored


[link to answers.yahoo.com]


Is that the only way for you to get your message out
by shuttin down others who disagree

sad so sadd
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I don't agree to any such thing. I'm simply stating how absurd it is for people that defended torture and rendition to all of sudden be jumping up and down about Civil Rights. Your outrage is shallow and transparent.
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What's wrong with the fairness doctirne? Are neo cons afraid other opinions might be heard? Would that be a bad thing?

Why do you think that satellite radio has taken off like it has? It's the only place you can get NPR with a clear signal if you don't live in a big city. Also, its the only place that has a "left" talk show selection.

Rush Limbaugh, hannity and laura are losing ratings anyway. Their shows are dying a natural death because they don't have other opinions on.

When was the last time you saw one of these ideologs in a debate with anyone? They crumble when confronted with opposing opinions that they can't hang up on or talk over.
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What's wrong with the fairness doctirne? Are neo cons afraid other opinions might be heard? Would that be a bad thing?

Why do you think that satellite radio has taken off like it has? It's the only place you can get NPR with a clear signal if you don't live in a big city. Also, its the only place that has a "left" talk show selection.

Rush Limbaugh, hannity and laura are losing ratings anyway. Their shows are dying a natural death because they don't have other opinions on.

When was the last time you saw one of these ideologs in a debate with anyone? They crumble when confronted with opposing opinions that they can't hang up on or talk over.
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What's wrong with the fairness doctirne? Are neo cons afraid other opinions might be heard? Would that be a bad thing?

Why do you think that satellite radio has taken off like it has? It's the only place you can get NPR with a clear signal if you don't live in a big city. Also, its the only place that has a "left" talk show selection.

Rush Limbaugh, hannity and laura are losing ratings anyway. Their shows are dying a natural death because they don't have other opinions on.

When was the last time you saw one of these ideologs in a debate with anyone? They crumble when confronted with opposing opinions that they can't hang up on or talk over.
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hey no need to click twice
the site is just slow at the moment


but its the unfarirness where will it stop

will a store be told that they have to sell things bought from another company over another

if you kind had any real plan or direction peeps would listen

since they don't yoi force others to host what you approve of
what chit is that
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What's wrong with the fairness doctirne? Are neo cons afraid other opinions might be heard? Would that be a bad thing?

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From now on at GLP...we need to have a govt agency person read every post and make sure that the conservative position posts are equal to the liberal position posts.

As I am out numbered here 20-1, It really might be a good idea.

laugh
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Why do you think that satellite radio has taken off like it has? It's the only place you can get NPR with a clear signal if you don't live in a big city. Also, its the only place that has a "left" talk show selection.
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Why do you suppose it is that every radio station in the country doesnt carry a liberal talk radio show?

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Rush Limbaugh, hannity and laura are losing ratings anyway. Their shows are dying a natural death because they don't have other opinions on.

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Can you provide a link to a source for that statement or did you just fart it? It is as false as it gets.
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What's wrong with the fairness doctirne? Are neo cons afraid other opinions might be heard? Would that be a bad thing?



From now on at GLP...we need to have a govt agency person read every post and make sure that the conservative position posts are equal to the liberal position posts.

As I am out numbered here 20-1, It really might be a good idea.

laugh
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lmao
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Liberal radio will fail because the format of "Bush is stupid!!" gets real old, real quick. Look at Air America--had listeners been hungry for the likes of Janine Garafalo, Chuck D, and a host of other unpalatable on-air personalities this station would be broadcast in every state of the nation. But the reality is that it has become a bloated, festering, useless boil on the ass of liberalism and has outlived it's usefulness.
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In all fairness to the Fairness Doctrine...this post should be pinned right there with BushMustGoJr's post!

Im gonnna call Nancy and complain!

lol
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Still falling for the divide and conquer two-step eh? There is no difference between republican/democrat,their puppet strings lead to the same hand, different paths - same destination: keeping you all at each others throats.
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Its not so much Reps against Dems as it is about the government taking away YOUR right to free speech just to silence conservative talk radio.

It will also eventually apply to the internet if you read the law.

How much are you willing to give up just to get rid of Rush?

Be silent on this and YOU will suffer in the end.
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Its not so much Reps against Dems as it is about the government taking away YOUR right to free speech just to silence conservative talk radio.

It will also eventually apply to the internet if you read the law.

How much are you willing to give up just to get rid of Rush?

Be silent on this and YOU will suffer in the end.
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And where was your outrage over Warrentless wiretaps, torture and rendition? You don't give a shit about Civil Rights or the country.

Fake outrage.
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it's about fucking time the RIGHT WING LIARS were silenced. THese are OUR airwaves, I and you own them and we license these bastards to lie to us!!!! fuck them
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Its not so much Reps against Dems as it is about the government taking away YOUR right to free speech just to silence conservative talk radio.

It will also eventually apply to the internet if you read the law.

How much are you willing to give up just to get rid of Rush?

Be silent on this and YOU will suffer in the end.

And where was your outrage over Warrentless wiretaps, torture and rendition? You don't give a shit about Civil Rights or the country.

Fake outrage.
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I love how you want to turn it into a tit for tat kind of thing. You will not raise a voice about this issue because the conservatives didnt support your stance on illegal wire taps.

I dont have a problem with the wire tap issue and feel just fine with it. I dont think it was illegal. It was and is not a threat to me. I dont have a problem with torture when in fact, kids get tortured more on the playground than what has happened in Getmo.

And when you pick up insrugents and known terrorists I could care less if they are held without bail. fuckem.

They are the enemy and as should be treated as such. They have no civil rights. My pets have more civil rights than they do in my opinion.

What is going on here is the govt going out and taking away your right to free speech. Thats a whole lot different than listening to chatter from offshore looking for tracking words.
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it's about fucking time the RIGHT WING LIARS were silenced. THese are OUR airwaves, I and you own them and we license these bastards to lie to us!!!! fuck them
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Are you using a wireless internet connection? How about cable? It will also apply to this site. 50/50 liberal and conservative. Are you OK with that 184795?
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Its not so much Reps against Dems as it is about the government taking away YOUR right to free speech just to silence conservative talk radio.

It will also eventually apply to the internet if you read the law.

How much are you willing to give up just to get rid of Rush?

Be silent on this and YOU will suffer in the end.

And where was your outrage over Warrentless wiretaps, torture and rendition? You don't give a shit about Civil Rights or the country.

Fake outrage.



I love how you want to turn it into a tit for tat kind of thing. You will not raise a voice about this issue because the conservatives didnt support your stance on illegal wire taps.

I dont have a problem with the wire tap issue and feel just fine with it. I dont think it was illegal. It was and is not a threat to me. I dont have a problem with torture when in fact, kids get tortured more on the playground than what has happened in Getmo.

And when you pick up insrugents and known terrorists I could care less if they are held without bail. fuckem.

They are the enemy and as should be treated as such. They have no civil rights. My pets have more civil rights than they do in my opinion.

What is going on here is the govt going out and taking away your right to free speech. Thats a whole lot different than listening to chatter from offshore looking for tracking words.
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NO I question your Integrity. I think you are a liar and a traitor that doesn't give a shit about civil rights. You pick and choose like a child.
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NO I question your Integrity. I think you are a liar and a traitor that doesn't give a shit about civil rights. You pick and choose like a child.
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Got any examples of what I pick and choose about?
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it's about fucking time the RIGHT WING LIARS were silenced. THese are OUR airwaves, I and you own them and we license these bastards to lie to us!!!! fuck them



Are you using a wireless internet connection? How about cable? It will also apply to this site. 50/50 liberal and conservative. Are you OK with that 184795?
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You don't have the slightest interest in honest debate, just like the talk shows you are championing. Go Fuck yourself Tory.
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it's about fucking time the RIGHT WING LIARS were silenced. THese are OUR airwaves, I and you own them and we license these bastards to lie to us!!!! fuck them



Are you using a wireless internet connection? How about cable? It will also apply to this site. 50/50 liberal and conservative. Are you OK with that 184795?

You don't have the slightest interest in honest debate, just like the talk shows you are championing. Go Fuck yourself Tory.
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Ill debate you on the fairness doctrine. I think it is a horrible move. Whatcha think there AC? Do you agree or not? Tell me why you defend it?
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I hope, pigman, rush, is first. He, O'leilly,Hannity, and the rest are PROPAGANDISTS, for this filthy, lying administation!!!!!!!!!!
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Ill debate you on the fairness doctrine. I think it is a horrible move. Whatcha think there AC? Do you agree or not? Tell me why you defend it?
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No.
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it's about fucking time the RIGHT WING LIARS were silenced. THese are OUR airwaves, I and you own them and we license these bastards to lie to us!!!! fuck them
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I have to disagree and I'm a moderate/liberal/lefty/libertarian/conservative-on-somethings​ and I suspect most people who don't fall into the extreme ends of the political spectrum may have similar views depending on the topic, basically live and let live shall we say. Anyway what I'm getting at is free speech should be everyones right, particularly those whose views we disagree with. When the debate is only one-sided no progress can be made, when only one point of view is allowed your inner voice has no-one to talk to, never mind debating anybody else on a given subject. Lastly, mutually-contradictive ideas can be held in ones mind without any intellectual tail-chasing and it helps to understand the concept of "other".
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Hey PACNW dipshit, we survived the Firness dactirne from 1949 to 1987, how is this the "biggest threat" blah, blah, blah, ad nauseum? Or are you too young to know jack shit?

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