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| Me114 Subscriber ladynada User ID: 71005
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| Quote | I can tell you what 'might' happen if you police your thoughts 24/7 asking God to help you....
lets say.. you try it, and you are sincere.. you want to make SURE that Im wrong about you having a denial-mind attached to you. even if you say something like, God, if you ARE real, please help me discover this bad wolf thing if it exists, I am going to notice my every thought and see what this is all about...
so... lets say you try it for a while, and then, you know, you forget
but then, a day later, oh yea, you remember again, so you notice your thoughts again...
and then, oh well, ok, that night while waiting to fall asleep you really concentrate and notice your thoughts..
the next day.. you remember, so you are on it
ok..
so a week goes by and then. wait wait wait.. suddenly you have thought, you know, seems normal, you are thinking to yourself in your own voice, but, you just had a thought, that was a 'little' out of your character. you, know, um a little suspect... so, hey why not, you say, God are you there? was that me?
no answer..
hmmm...
ok ok ok
so anyways.. that was interesting.. you continue to notice your thoughts
then you have an unusual event happen in your life, and you are caught up in it, and do not notice your thoughts. But that night, before sleep, you review the event, because it was important that day. now, there it is again.. you just had a 'strange' thought. no, I mean, you had a thought, just now, that you know is not something you would say, regarding something to do with that event. its one of those, no thats not me, kind of thoughts. now THAT IS suspect. God, you there? then you hear yourself saying, no of course God is not there because (plug in your belief about God here). hmmmm... that was a quick retort....
for some reason.. you ask again. God, you there? what about that thought (you didnt forget why you asked)... then what ensues is this:
you have an ARGUMENT with yourself
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okay example over. now this example shows you what CAN possibly happen. that bad wolf does NOT want you to get God to help you DISCOVER its presence. and the CLOSER you get to discovering it, the more ERRATIC it will become. It will slip up, and you will notice it. God is actually helping you, but you may not be hearing Him clearly, YET
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now the reason I go through all this is simple. as many months as I have been telling GLP'ers about this bad wolf, not one person has even said that they have even STARTED to police their thoughts. you know what that tells me? that tells me how strong the bad wolf is, in people, generally speaking. You see, there is no legitimate EXCUSE for not policing your thoughts (asking God to help you) to PROVE ME WRONG.
Ive explained the bad wolf in a way that can obviously show everyone that IF TRUE it is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS - meaning the way it acts as an IMPOSTER in us means that its a GATEKEEPER to keep you from trying to ferret it out - THEREFORE - no one says to me, hey ME114 I tried policing my thoughts and you are full of Sh*t
see?
I didnt even get that response
so read this message again, and get to work, so you will be properly prepared to face the hard decisions that YOU KNOW are UPON US - you know, logically speaking, that if I am right about your bad wolf (each of us have it) that it will be deceiving you into making decisions designed to destroy your soul, no matter what you (think you) believe.
You HAVE TO PROVE ME WRONG

Sweet Thoughts!
I Unknown Depths of Love, You.
What Happens Next Loves me.
Help me Jesus, LIfe will let me know.
Living is Effortless Normal
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Me114 Subscriber (OP) ladynada User ID: 71005
United States 1/21/2007 4:32 AM
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I am interested in responses from GLPers and especially the regulars who know Ive been harping about this bad wolf since last summer

Sweet Thoughts!
I Unknown Depths of Love, You.
What Happens Next Loves me.
Help me Jesus, LIfe will let me know.
Living is Effortless Normal
go out and play, and that's an order |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 185043
China 1/21/2007 4:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | | Re: YOU HAVE TO PROVE ME114 WRONG !!! | Quote |
I humbly request a pin until later sunday morning
I am interested in responses from GLPers and especially the regulars who know Ive been harping about this bad wolf since last summer Quoting: Me114
Someone with this much dedication and persistence deserves not only a pin but a super pin!
BTW, the thread title "YOU HAVE TO PROVE ME114 WRONG !!!" had me laughing out loud. Thank you.  |
| Me114 Subscriber (OP) ladynada User ID: 71005
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I was gonna put me, but then ME114 sounded better (specially for a pin)

Sweet Thoughts!
I Unknown Depths of Love, You.
What Happens Next Loves me.
Help me Jesus, LIfe will let me know.
Living is Effortless Normal
go out and play, and that's an order |
| The Lone Ranger Subscriber Zeta Destroyer User ID: 185016
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I was gonna put me, but then ME114 sounded better (specially for a pin) Quoting: Me114
Here knock yourself silly!!
:pins: :pins: :pins: :pins: :pins: :pins: Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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| Duncan Kunz User ID: 184720
United States 1/21/2007 6:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | | Re: YOU HAVE TO PROVE ME114 WRONG !!! | Quote | Bud, I don't have to "prove" you wrong about anything.
It's not like you're on trial or anything, you know.
I happen to think your assertions are completely bogus, in that they demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of basic science -- and even the scientific method. And, based on what I've read in some of your other threads, most people on this forum consider you to be a complete idiot, as well.
And given the fact that GLP'ers are about the most credulous folks imaginable, their rejection of your assertions (I won't dignify them with the term "hypotheses") certainly speaks volumes about your believability!
However, I am not obligated to prove anything one way or the other. I can just sit back and either shake my head in wonder or laugh out loud at your assertions, a choice which, I believe, many other people here have to make when reading your drivel.
But "proof"? Naah. Of course, if you want others to believe your assertions, then perhaps a little "proof" (or, at a minimum, some semi-coherent explanations) might help you.
But that's your call, of course.
Meanwhile, have a good day, and remember -- even if no one buys your stuff, you're still contributing to the board by giving everyone a good laugh. Where's the EVIDENCE, Jim? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 185132
China 1/21/2007 9:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | | Re: YOU HAVE TO PROVE ME114 WRONG !!! | Quote | Getting back to reality for a second, first, you can't prove a negative and second, you can't argue a belief system. So, don't look for too many serious replies, me114. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1557
Canada 1/21/2007 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | | Re: YOU HAVE TO PROVE ME114 WRONG !!! | Quote | I've already proven you wrong and you choose to put me on ignore and refuse to reply to my posts about six months ago. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 83389
United States 1/21/2007 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | | Re: YOU HAVE TO PROVE ME114 WRONG !!! | Quote | Me114, yeah you can hear God talking to you as in what your writing about there. Its what its all about.
Just know that the bad wolf can sneak in there too. If the voice you hear doesn;t agree with the love of Jesus and the 10 comandments then its not of God.
I hope you can tell when the bad wolf sneaks in again. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 154126
United States 1/21/2007 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | | Re: YOU HAVE TO PROVE ME114 WRONG !!! | Quote | you retard, why are you revealing your multiple personality disorder for everyone?
i guess everyone already knows youre crazy so no biggie. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 170958
United States 1/21/2007 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | | Re: YOU HAVE TO PROVE ME114 WRONG !!! | Quote | Why? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1557
Canada 1/21/2007 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | | Re: YOU HAVE TO PROVE ME114 WRONG !!! | Quote | so read this message again, and get to work, so you will be properly prepared to face the hard decisions that YOU KNOW are UPON US - you know, logically speaking, that if I am right about your bad wolf (each of us have it) that it will be deceiving you into making decisions designed to destroy your soul, no matter what you (think you) believe.
You HAVE TO PROVE ME WRONG
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John 10:8
All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.
John 10
27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.
28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. |
| wacko!!! User ID: 185112
Australia 1/21/2007 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | | Re: YOU HAVE TO PROVE ME114 WRONG !!! | Quote | now the reason I go through all this is simple. as many months as I have been telling GLP'ers about this bad wolf, not one person has even said that they have even STARTED to police their thoughts. you know what that tells me? that tells me how strong the bad wolf is
have you ever once thought that in many months of telling people
that the one voice is wrong and the many are right??
have you once said `gee i could be wrong...'
have you ever thought that not one person has even said that they have even STARTED to police their thoughts.
you know what that tells me?
that tells me how strong the urge to seek phyciatric help should be.........................
YOU are a fundimentalist
YOU have one basic idea- and its `RIGHT"
come hell or high water-its RIGHT
explain why i should regard you as different to any other`insert religion here' fundimentalist?? |
| 2XSecretAgent User ID: 164883
United States 1/21/2007 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | | Re: YOU HAVE TO PROVE ME114 WRONG !!! | Quote | ME114 - are you the GLP member formerly known as Spirit of Truth? Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be.
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There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 185193
Canada 1/21/2007 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | | Re: YOU HAVE TO PROVE ME114 WRONG !!! | Quote | YOU HAVE TO PROVE ME114 WRONG !!!
no I don't |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 179628
United States 1/21/2007 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | | Re: YOU HAVE TO PROVE ME114 WRONG !!! | Quote |
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| Koza N.O.S.tra User ID: 185192
Montenegro 1/21/2007 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | | Re: YOU HAVE TO PROVE ME114 WRONG !!! | Quote |
Bud, I don't have to "prove" you wrong about anything.
It's not like you're on trial or anything, you know.
I happen to think your assertions are completely bogus, in that they demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of basic science -- and even the scientific method. And, based on what I've read in some of your other threads, most people on this forum consider you to be a complete idiot, as well.
And given the fact that GLP'ers are about the most credulous folks imaginable, their rejection of your assertions (I won't dignify them with the term "hypotheses") certainly speaks volumes about your believability!
However, I am not obligated to prove anything one way or the other. I can just sit back and either shake my head in wonder or laugh out loud at your assertions, a choice which, I believe, many other people here have to make when reading your drivel.
But "proof"? Naah. Of course, if you want others to believe your assertions, then perhaps a little "proof" (or, at a minimum, some semi-coherent explanations) might help you.
But that's your call, of course.
Meanwhile, have a good day, and remember -- even if no one buys your stuff, you're still contributing to the board by giving everyone a good laugh. Quoting: Duncan Kunz
You have to give him credit for being persistantly positively insane every time he posts a new thread. Makes me laugh hard and brings me immense joy every time I pop into one. No offence OP :), but...
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 179092
United States 1/21/2007 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | | Re: YOU HAVE TO PROVE ME114 WRONG !!! | Quote | bi-polar disorder... |
| De-ah-nah User ID: 166084
United States 1/21/2007 1:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | | Re: YOU HAVE TO PROVE ME114 WRONG !!! | Quote | Me114 Oh what you say is asolutely true.
Isn't it bizarre how people laugh at the truth.
Some will get it that all anyone of us can hope.
I am so glad you are here speaking your truth.
I am still learning..
Thank you.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 185228
United States 1/21/2007 2:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | | Re: YOU HAVE TO PROVE ME114 WRONG !!! | Quote | I could probably prove you wrong if I only knew what the flying fuck you were talking about.
I think what you're saying is, if we disagree with your assertions then it's our personal wolf that disagrees with you.
Like current politics - if we challenge you, we're evil.
That about right? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 185228
United States 1/21/2007 2:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | | Re: YOU HAVE TO PROVE ME114 WRONG !!! | Quote | Just cutting through the babble and crap, me114..
It's about you feeling superior to people who disagree with you.
Prove ME wrong. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 181321
United States 1/21/2007 2:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | | Re: YOU HAVE TO PROVE ME114 WRONG !!! | Quote |
ME114 - are you the GLP member formerly known as Spirit of Truth? Quoting: 2XSecretAgent
The answer to that question would be no....2 different people ,2XSecretAgent |
| Me114 Subscriber (OP) ladynada User ID: 71005
United States 1/21/2007 3:10 PM
 Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | | Re: YOU HAVE TO PROVE ME114 WRONG !!! | Quote | I am about to post a couple of good messages posted elsewhere give, within them, example, of why you would want to be "able to hear the voice of God" in your heart.
I will be back to reply to comments.. ( someone wants to use the pc soon here )
Joh 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Joh 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. Quoting: Bible 55555

Sweet Thoughts!
I Unknown Depths of Love, You.
What Happens Next Loves me.
Help me Jesus, LIfe will let me know.
Living is Effortless Normal
go out and play, and that's an order |
| Me114 Subscriber (OP) ladynada User ID: 71005
United States 1/21/2007 3:10 PM
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From: MSN Nicknamedragonslayer3737 (Original Message) Sent: 1/20/2007 4:35 PM
Transition By My Spirit Says The Lord
By Ron McGatlin
'Not by might, nor by power, but by My Spirit,' Says the LORD. Zec 4:6
Intellectual might and mental power will not guide us through the transition from the religious church age into the reality of the kingdom of God. The movement into the kingdom of God lifestyle is not a horizontal move but a vertical one. It is not a restructuring of organizational church methods. These horizontal things and more will be affected by the transition into kingdom, but the transition is a vertical one. It is first internal within the hearts of God's people. It is a work of the Spirit of God moving His people into an intimate spiritual relationship with Him.
The inner kingdom must be experienced before the outer kingdom can flow from God's holy people into the world.
The transition is first a transformation from horizontal to vertical inner spiritual reality. It is a move into the comfort and goodness of Christ within His people by the Holy Spirit.
In the kingdom there is comfort and joy.
In the kingdom, there is peace, joy, and righteousness in the Holy Spirit. God is a God of comfort and inner peace. The kingdom of God is not without tribulation and persecution in the world, but it is a place of His comfort in our tribulations. The kingdom is not a place of unrest, terror, and torment. It is a place free of fear, strife, and endless toil.
Acts 9:31: Then the churches throughout all Judea, Galilee, and Samaria had peace and were edified. And walking in the fear of the Lord and in the comfort of the Holy Spirit, they were multiplied.
2 Cor 1:3-4: Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort those who are in any trouble, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God.
Seeking God's spiritual kingdom by the Spirit.
The basic error of the Pharisees that caused them to miss the King and the kingdom was their dependance on mental strengths to discern the Bible (Old Testament writings). They devoutly searched the written word in their unrelenting zest for truth but failed to hear the Lord speaking to them.
Luke 17:20-21: Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, "The kingdom of God does not come with observation; "nor will they say, 'See here!' or 'See there!' For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you." (or "in your midst")
In recent centuries the organized church has done much the same. The written word and the teaching of it by men of the clergy became elevated above the Holy Spirit who originally spoke the word to holy men of God that was written by their hands. Teachings developed by theologians based upon the written word became mighty and powerful in the minds and hearts of Christians. But the same mistake that the Pharisees made of using intellectual and mental power to discern the written word has led to at least an incomplete if not erroneous view of the real kingdom of God.
Not hearing and discerning the written word by the revelation of the Holy Spirit has led to deception.
Deceived prophetic teachers continue to proclaim teachings and projections of current and future events based upon their interpretation of the Bible without hearing from the Spirit of God. With intellectual power they view the state of current affairs, compare it to the written word, and devise a theory of current and future events based on their view of the written word without hearing from the Holy Spirit of God.
Many people are locked in a prison of unbelief regarding the reality of the Holy Spirit's speaking into the hearts of men today. This mistake continues to lead to the same error today as it did with the Pharisees; they continue to miss the kingdom of God coming forth on earth from heaven by the Spirit of Christ being formed in holy people of God today.
The turn to the written word as the ultimate standard while ignoring the spoken word of God was caused by a major breakdown of truth and accuracy in people claiming to speak a word from God. The lack of mature holy people and the multitudes of immature unholy people who cannot hear God clearly, but yet who are speaking as from God have caused a great mistrust in modern day prophesy.
Religion has become filled with unholy, unrighteous men who name the name of God and hear and speak messages of mixture. These contaminated words are abundant and troubling. In an effort to safeguard people from the mixture, many minsters have proclaimed a message of dependency only on the written word and caused people to loose their ability to hear a current word from the Holy Spirit. This phenomenon is a testimony of the depraved condition of modern man and a backlash to the demonically inspired false prophets among us.
One result of this is a lack of ability to change or transition.
Making the transition from error that is locked into people from their past religious views can be very difficult, if not impossible. Having a lack of real spiritual discernment, they simply believe that if a spoken word of the kingdom does not line up with their previously taught views of the written word, it should be quickly rejected. Thereby they may unknowingly reject a word of kingdom truth.
We need to allow the Holy Spirit to guide our pure hearts into the same kingdom of God truth that Jesus taught, preached, and lived. There is no substitute for an intimate one-on-one relationship with God by the indwelling Spirit of Christ. Only in oneness with God can we accurately understand the written word and receive the spoken word of God by the Holy Spirit. Until the written word becomes the spoken word in our hearts by the Holy Spirit, it cannot be clearly and accurately received and understood.
The Bible is a great standard of truth when revealed by the Holy Spirit.
There are today some holy men and women of God speaking the truth of the kingdom from the written word by the Holy Spirit. Probably, there are more truly holy people of God alive today than at any point in history. The transformation of the people and the transition into kingdom of God living requires a holy remnant proclaiming the same message that Jesus preached two thousand years ago. The gospel of the kingdom assaults some of the strongholds of religious doctrine of the past. However, it brings some of the true teachings of the past forward with increased truth and light.
For some of us it may seem there are many words spoken and not much really happening in this transition from religion to the kingdom of God. Do not be disheartened; there is a lot going on beneath the surface. Not all is within our sight. It reminds me of many years ago as a boy seeking to get fresh cool water from a deep well with a hand pump. A lot of rapid strokes of the pump handle produced nothing but air. But as I continued pumping the handle rapidly while seeing no results, suddenly the water reached the top and each stroke of the pump gushed forth cool clear water. What I could not see was that the water was coming up the pipe in the well as I pumped. The kingdom is not established by pumping; but, as we each continue to faithfully do what God has given us to do there is much going on beneath the surface or more accurately among a remnant.
WORLDWIDE KINGDOM REVIVAL WILL COME!
Suddenly the kingdom of God will fill all the available containers and overflow across the land as rivers of fresh, cool, refreshing life from heaven pours out. The last major revival will be a kingdom revival that will change the spiritual climate of the world. There will be no end to the works of God generated by the kingdom revival that will pour out in hearts of His people and upon the land. The land made barren because of the evil works of man will be restored and become alive in the great outpouring of the kingdom of God.
I don't know about you but for me there is no greater reason for living and giving my all into His hand to do with as He pleases. As we give Him our whole hearts and seek His kingdom and His righteous way of being and doing, the God of comfort will comfort us in our tribulations and persecutions which are only for a season. The Spirit of glory will rest upon us and His glory will cover the earth.
Gal 6:9-10: And let us not grow weary while doing good, for in due season we shall reap if we do not lose heart. Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all, especially to those who are of the household of faith.
Your kingdom come, Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Keep on Pursuing Love,
It Will Never Fail,
Ron McGatlin
[link to www.openheaven.com]
basileia@earthlink.net

Sweet Thoughts!
I Unknown Depths of Love, You.
What Happens Next Loves me.
Help me Jesus, LIfe will let me know.
Living is Effortless Normal
go out and play, and that's an order |
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United States 1/21/2007 3:14 PM
 Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | | Re: YOU HAVE TO PROVE ME114 WRONG !!! | Quote | Here is the second message below. I am trying to show you that God is making this real - THROUGH - His people, people like you also. Dont regard loving and living for God as what you have seen others proclaim it is - instead - UNDERSTAND - the plan of the True God is to live inside you, communing (communicating) with you and transforming you into being just like Him - that you KNOW HIM - now and for eternity - THAT is the protection for these days. If you dont get it now, be OPEN to receive those He will send to your neighborhood and they WILL HELP YOU and your family. The time is late folks.
LIVING SUPERNATURALLY NATURALLY
Weekly teaching by David & Mary Sue Davis 1/20/07
Mary Sue Davis
Jan 20, 2007
LIVING SUPERNATURALLY NATURALLY
Conclusion of Teaching on Spiritual Maturity and Living Naturally Supernaturally
Maturity and Love
Mature in the New Testament means perfection or completeness (telios)
TELEIOS" (Strong's #5046), which means "complete (in various applications of labor, growth, mental and moral character, etc.)." It is rendered in the King James Version as "full age, man, perfect." Thayer's Lexicon adds that "TELEIOS" means "brought to its end, finished; wanting nothing necessary to completeness; consummate human integrity and virtue; used of men, full grown, adult, of full age, mature." Its root word is "TELOS," from the primary "TELLO," which means "(to set out for a definite point or goal); properly, the point aimed at as a limit, i.e. (by implication) the conclusion of an act or state; the end to which all things relate, the aim, purpose." This powerful word has to do with our coming to full MATURITY in Christ. Note these Scriptural examples of "TELEIOS":
Mt. 5:48 - "You be therefore PERFECT, even as your Father which is in heaven"
Mt. 19:21 - "If thou will be PERFECT, go and sell that you have"
Rom. 12:2 - "what is that good, and acceptable, and PERFECT, will of God."
1 Cor. 2:6 - "Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are PERFECT"
1 Cor. 13:10 - "when that which is PERFECT is come. "
1 Cor. 14:20 - "in malice be ye children, but in understanding be MEN"
Eph. 4:13 - "Till we all come in the unity of the faith, unto a PERFECT man"
Phil. 3:15 - "Let us therefore, as many as be PERFECT, be thus minded"
Col. 1:28 - "that we may present every man PERFECT in Christ Jesus"
Col. 4:12 - "that ye may stand PERFECT and complete in all the will of God"
Heb. 5:14 - "But strong meat belongs to them that are OF FULL AGE"
Heb. 9:11 - "Christ High Priest by a greater and more PERFECT tabernacle"
Js. 1:4 - "But let patience have her PERFECT work"
Js. 1:4 - "that ye may be PERFECT and entire, wanting nothing"
Js. 1:17 - "Every good gift and every PERFECT gift is from above"
Js. 1:25 - "But whosoever looks into the PERFECT law of liberty"
Js. 3:2 - "If any man offend not in word, the same is a PERFECT man"
I Jn 4:18 - "There is no fear in love; but PERFECT love casts out fear"
So the determining factor that we are becoming mature is walking in love. For God is love and we are becoming more like Him.
In 1 Cor. 13, love is the qualifying factor for biblical exercise of the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Without love the most magnificent manifestation of gifts and the most heroic self-sacrifice means nothing. Out of all the gifts love is the greatest gift. If God is in us and God is love, then it should manifest through us (1 John 4:7-21). We should check the following list to see if we have all these characteristics in our lives. If we are missing any of these characteristics, then we should start practicing the area where we are weak. Practice will make us stronger in that area. See if we qualify in all these characteristics:
1. Love is patient. Are you impatient with imperfect people?
2. Love is kind. Are you not active in doing good to others?
3. Love does not envy. Are you possessive and competitive? Do you hate to see others get ahead?
4. Love does not boast. Are you always patting your self on the back of what you have accomplished?
5. Love is not proud. Do you treat others arrogantly?
6. Love is not rude. Do you display bad manners and not courteous to others?
7. Love is not self-seeking. Do you insist on your rights and precedence over others? Are you selfish and always complaining? Are you fearful?
8. Love is not easily angered. Are you irritable or touchy, rough or hostile? Are you not graceful under pressure?
9. Love keeps no record of wrongs done to you. Are you resentful? Do you find satisfaction in shortcomings of others and spread evil reports? Do you not defend and hold others up? Are you always suspicious and never give others credit for good intentions? Do you give up on people and see them as having no future? Are you not loyal to others?
If we say "yes" to any of the above questions then we need to grow in maturity in these areas.
Jesus commanded that we love one another as He has loved us (John 15:12). Song of Solomon 8:7 says; Song of Solomon 8:7 Many waters cannot quench love, Nor can the floods drown it. If a man would give for love All the wealth of his house, It would be utterly despised.
What we are have learned in previous lessons:
1. Gaining knowledge of who we are in Christ and our 3 dimensional being 2. Discerning the Natural Man, Carnal Man, and Spiritual Man. Strengthening the Spiritual Man to the point that natural and carnal cannot function 3. Understanding our Salvation 4. Know we are in the World not of it 5. Understanding that we are of the Kingdom of God 6. Strengthening the Inner Man (spirit), Being Spirit Filled, Being Led by the Spirit 7. Understanding and Receiving the Baptism of Holy Spirit 8. Knowing that Rivers of Living Water are Flowing Out of Us; 9. Overcoming Sin by faith alone 10.Abiding in His Presence, and Beholding His Face
That is living supernaturally naturally, a lot to decipher and be, but thank You Lord, You are leading us and guiding us and we shall be like You!!! You are able to perfect that which concerns us and
.....I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day. (2Ti 1:12b)
This is the conclusion of our lessons and the series, "Living Supernaturally Naturally." Next week we will start a series on healing.
Grace, peace, blessings, and favor,
David & Mary Sue

Sweet Thoughts!
I Unknown Depths of Love, You.
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Help me Jesus, LIfe will let me know.
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 166084
United States 1/21/2007 3:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | | Re: YOU HAVE TO PROVE ME114 WRONG !!! | Quote |
I could probably prove you wrong if I only knew what the flying fuck you were talking about.
I think what you're saying is, if we disagree with your assertions then it's our personal wolf that disagrees with you.
Like current politics - if we challenge you, we're evil.
That about right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 185228
No I think it's more analogous to trying to explain the colors of the rainbow to the color blind.
If you can't even begin to perceive color no doubt you may feel dubious.
But here it isn't color blindness its spiritual blindness.
One reason why this may be flying right over your head. |
| Me114 Subscriber (OP) ladynada User ID: 71005
United States 1/21/2007 3:29 PM
 Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | | Re: YOU HAVE TO PROVE ME114 WRONG !!! | Quote | dont use that 'everybody knows that ...' trick on people - oh thats so old.
so, you can cite all this other stuff that has nothing to do with the fact that you can not police your own thoughts 24/7 to see if you have a bad wolf denial mind construct attached to your flesh - which is why this world is such a mess - because everyone has this soul-killer and its been killing us since the beginning...
you can cite my lack of science worship-
you can use the everyone knows that trick to say I am this or that
but you cant police your thoughts
you cant say, I am a nut but you will still police your thoughts, just to see, just in case...
so your bad wolf has taken you over completely already? has it? I dunno.. do you know?
Bud, I don't have to "prove" you wrong about anything.
It's not like you're on trial or anything, you know.
I happen to think your assertions are completely bogus, in that they demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of basic science -- and even the scientific method. And, based on what I've read in some of your other threads, most people on this forum consider you to be a complete idiot, as well.
And given the fact that GLP'ers are about the most credulous folks imaginable, their rejection of your assertions (I won't dignify them with the term "hypotheses") certainly speaks volumes about your believability!
However, I am not obligated to prove anything one way or the other. I can just sit back and either shake my head in wonder or laugh out loud at your assertions, a choice which, I believe, many other people here have to make when reading your drivel.
But "proof"? Naah. Of course, if you want others to believe your assertions, then perhaps a little "proof" (or, at a minimum, some semi-coherent explanations) might help you.
But that's your call, of course.
Meanwhile, have a good day, and remember -- even if no one buys your stuff, you're still contributing to the board by giving everyone a good laugh. Quoting: Duncan Kunz

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| Me114 Subscriber (OP) ladynada User ID: 71005
United States 1/21/2007 3:44 PM
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Getting back to reality for a second, first, you can't prove a negative and second, you can't argue a belief system. So, don't look for too many serious replies, me114. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 185132
what do you mean you cant prove a negative? I dont understand what you mean by that. if you police your thoughts, and you dont discover a bad wolf in you, then you would prove me wrong - right?
and its not a belief system. plenty of life philosophies teach people to 'quiet their minds' right? how about the old adages 'know thyself" and "to thine own self be true". people dont usually think of those things as belief systems, but more like 'mind cleanliness', like brushing your teeth and washing your behind. so, why not keep your mind clean from cluttering thoughts?
but what I ask is, prove me wrong, because if you add to all the above, asking God to help you discover this denial-mind, then you will be shocked to discover what has been causing all the trouble for mankind. you will understand that we cant blame it on the PTB and aliens or even God - this construct MAKES us RESPONSIBLE for the status of our own soul. The bad wolf does not force itself to control you - you CHOOSE to agree with its deceitful thoughts and make yourself into a satan.
Im alerting everyone to this FACT - yes I believe it is a FACT. Naturally if I believe it as a fact, then I am concerned for my fellow people that if they do not know about it, that alerting them will help them to help themselves (with God's help, because I know how INSIDIOUS this bad wolf is).

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| Me114 Subscriber (OP) ladynada User ID: 71005
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I've already proven you wrong and you choose to put me on ignore and refuse to reply to my posts about six months ago. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1557
sorry I dont remember you.. so what is your response now? I will pay attention this time.
thanks

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| Me114 Subscriber (OP) ladynada User ID: 71005
United States 1/21/2007 3:55 PM
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Me114, yeah you can hear God talking to you as in what your writing about there. Its what its all about.
Just know that the bad wolf can sneak in there too. If the voice you hear doesn;t agree with the love of Jesus and the 10 comandments then its not of God.
I hope you can tell when the bad wolf sneaks in again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83389
what happens is, the more you hear God, He EXPLAINS to you about your habits you have developed from listening to the bad wolf, and then, as you agree with God's view, He empowers you to change, and you are no longer TEMPTED in that area anymore. Over time, you, the real you, gets stronger and stronger, and the bad wolf's influence and its attempts diminish more and more. The final step is God will Glorify you by His Grace- meaning its a free gift, you dont earn it. When that happens, you will be like Jesus was and do miraculous works. This is happening already, as I said in another post, I know of one person who has been set on fire by God inside... just got an email from her today, and she is still like that (its awesome)...
the point is... everyone was born with a clean soul and a clean spirit from God - no sin - yet everyone has agreed with this bad wolf since the age of accountablity, so you NEED God to cleanse those sins (forgive you of them) and to empower you to be conformed/transformed back to the original person you were born as.
It takes a person to be HUMBLE and admit, I messed up.. I didnt know about this thing tricking me - you got me God... hehehe.. you see, God set it up like this so that we NEED HIM to get out of this mess, so He can SAVE (salvage our souls) us. its a perfect plan.
its way easier to understand that ALL PEOPLE can come to God, and that HE DOES LOVE US ALL.. in other words again, HUMBLE ourselves and say... oh I see now how He did it.. and He got me too.. I did listen to this bad wolf and soiled my soul ... see.. its like God says ... GOTCHA. but understand that the GOTCHA is a perfect plan to SAVE YOU, and set it up so you can KNOW GOD now and forever, and be a Son of God. The liar tries to trick us and say you ARE GOD already - a HUGE LIE. Why seek to BE GOD, when being His KID is GOOD ENOUGH?!?!
so... Im telling you... let God help you with your bad wolf, and you are set for life - you get ALL the GOODIES!

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I Unknown Depths of Love, You.
What Happens Next Loves me.
Help me Jesus, LIfe will let me know.
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| Me114 Subscriber (OP) ladynada User ID: 71005
United States 1/21/2007 3:57 PM
 Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | | Re: YOU HAVE TO PROVE ME114 WRONG !!! | Quote | This might post twice sorry (got the white screen)
Me114, yeah you can hear God talking to you as in what your writing about there. Its what its all about.
Just know that the bad wolf can sneak in there too. If the voice you hear doesn;t agree with the love of Jesus and the 10 comandments then its not of God.
I hope you can tell when the bad wolf sneaks in again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83389
what happens is, the more you hear God, He EXPLAINS to you about your habits you have developed from listening to the bad wolf, and then, as you agree with God's view, He empowers you to change, and you are no longer TEMPTED in that area anymore. Over time, you, the real you, gets stronger and stronger, and the bad wolf's influence and its attempts diminish more and more. The final step is God will Glorify you by His Grace- meaning its a free gift, you dont earn it. When that happens, you will be like Jesus was and do miraculous works. This is happening already, as I said in another post, I know of one person who has been set on fire by God inside... just got an email from her today, and she is still like that (its awesome)...
the point is... everyone was born with a clean soul and a clean spirit from God - no sin - yet everyone has agreed with this bad wolf since the age of accountablity, so you NEED God to cleanse those sins (forgive you of them) and to empower you to be conformed/transformed back to the original person you were born as.
It takes a person to be HUMBLE and admit, I messed up.. I didnt know about this thing tricking me - you got me God... hehehe.. you see, God set it up like this so that we NEED HIM to get out of this mess, so He can SAVE (salvage our souls) us. its a perfect plan.
its way easier to understand that ALL PEOPLE can come to God, and that HE DOES LOVE US ALL.. in other words again, HUMBLE ourselves and say... oh I see now how He did it.. and He got me too.. I did listen to this bad wolf and soiled my soul ... see.. its like God says ... GOTCHA. but understand that the GOTCHA is a perfect plan to SAVE YOU, and set it up so you can KNOW GOD now and forever, and be a Son of God. The liar tries to trick us and say you ARE GOD already - a HUGE LIE. Why seek to BE GOD, when being His KID is GOOD ENOUGH?!?!
so... Im telling you... let God help you with your bad wolf, and you are set for life - you get ALL the GOODIES!

Sweet Thoughts!
I Unknown Depths of Love, You.
What Happens Next Loves me.
Help me Jesus, LIfe will let me know.
Living is Effortless Normal
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