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IT IS HEART DAUGHTER TIME !!!!!!!!

 
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I was rereading one of my old threads:

THE SIMPLE GOSPEL - truth that is logical
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And two messages within the thread struck me as pertinent to explaining more of the cosmogeny to you regarding the significance of the attribute of God (one of the seven spirits of God) that I call Heart Daughter.

The entire cosmogeny is spread throughout several threads, but you can start with the one in my sig, which is:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

You can read an OLD condensed version on this web page:

[link to world.std.com]

I have learned much more since then, so the one in the GLP threads is more up todate with the latest revelations that I have received from the Holy Spirit.

IT IS HEART DAUGHTER TIME !!!!!!!!

Before I tell you more about Heart Daughter, I will post just those two messages from THE SIMPLE GOSPEL thread to give you a background.

thanks for reading... and also see my latest thread

YOU HAVE TO PROVE ME114 WRONG !!!
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here is message 1 of 2 from the other thread so you will know who Heart Daughter is:

Re: THE SIMPLE GOSPEL - truth that is logical

part 6 of 6



Once upon a time, there was one being, call Him, ORIGINAL HEART. He is creative, and although He is everything, He found that He NEEDED two things:

A mate because He was lonely
To make His creative ideas into physical THINGS to play with.

Although Original Heart (OH) was everything, He also had NOTHING within Him. So OH decided to separate the NOTHING from Himself. Now, you have Everything, and Nothing.

Two things started happening at the same time. OH was expressing as Light (MIND), once He removed the Darkness out of Himself into the Nothing. So that Light as an electrical field created Magnetism, which became His self-begotten Son. Now He was not lonely anymore, and together, the electrical Father and magnetic Son could create physical THINGS - electro-magnetic field of physicality.

In the meantime, the Nothing which had darkness in it, also had a Mind, because you can think about ideas in a VOID without MAKING physical things. Once you make a physical thing, the Void kills it by making an opposite or anti-thing to annihilate your thing back to nothingness. This is a self defense mechanism of the Void. So the Void has its own mind.

Also, within the Void is darkness or dark-light, which is magnetic or the same essence as the Son. This magnetic field in the VOID gave birth to an electric self-begotten daughter, whom I call Heart Daughter, who is the Mind of the Void, because her essence is Light.

Here is when a serious problem happens, that explains where EVIL comes from, and why God says in the Bible that He created EVIL, and why He created Evil. Part of the Light in God was proud of the fact that He was God, and became jealous of His relationship with the Son. Since Mind can exist in the Void, these Minds left God, and went to live in the Void, because there, they could also create, using the dark-light (magnetism) together with their Light-Minds and make things. The problem is that their things would always be killed by the Void; but they didnt care about that, they just liked creating and playing with their creations.

So, because those Rebel-minds were trying to usurp God's creation, God sent a Mind from Himself into the Void and this Mind, whom I call Elijah joined together with the Void's Mind (the daughter of Zion) and using their imagination only, devised a solution to the riddle: how do you make a thing without destroying the Void.

There solution is our creation, and involved making a Man (Adam Kadmon) without a heart. With a hole where his heart should be, the void's anti-man did not have anything to attack the heart space with, thus leaving the defective Man's heart space intact. Later on, God could put a new heart into that Man, to save him.

So, when we are born, we have no heart, and we have attached to us, a dead-man or the anti-man whose sole purpose, is to annihilate us. But God gives us a conscience which is His voice to tell us right from wrong. We have free will to decide to agree with God's voice or the anti-man's voice within us. This is how people who have never heard of Jesus are still saved, if they have believed the voice of God within themselves; God looks at the heart.

Anyways.. the Evil is the Rebel Minds that were hiding in the Void. The Rebel Minds are the Adversary of God. Humans were made intentionally with no heart so that they would need a new heart, their old man would be annihilated, and God would then give them a new man, which is Jesus Christ. This is how Jesus defeated death.

So, here in the end, according to revelation, the Evil Minds from the Void are cast down and together with the fake-jews (imposters) who are their children, they will try to destroy everyone and steal the creation. Because, to them, after they destroy the creation, they simply start over and make another one, and destroy that one, and on and on. They dont care about suffering or death. So, God tells us ahead of time in revelation that He has defeated them and how it will turn out. They are the only ones whom God will destroy - they were never meant to be, but they came into existence so that God could be EVERYTHING. In other words, God, to be God, has to be everything and nothing, and Good and Evil... so evil has to have come out of Him somehow. This is how it happened.

God does not want to kill or condemn or uncreate any person. Jesus obeyed God and died to erase all sins. The only persons destined for destruction are those evil-Minds and their children who love death - so even with them, God is giving them what they love.

it works out perfect, God is perfect. Our problem is that we have been deceived. There is more to all this story Ive told here, and I posted more about it on the following thread:

Re: Going in the Spirit and Talking to God
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also please see my cosmogeny page
[link to world.std.com]
ura

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here is message 2 of 2

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As I was writing those replies this week, I came to understand much more about what has happened. The Father told me that He sent His Mind attribute into the Void to deal with the Rebel Minds there. Understand that GOD ALMIGHTY has seven major attributes that are called the seven spirits of God. They are mentioned in Zechariah and revelation. You see, these Rebel-Minds broke off from God and went into the Void where they could use the Mother's magnetic (darkness) essence to create creations that were in DENIAL of the Mother.

Here is how it happened. When the Original Heart, which is GOD in unity, decided to separate the Nothing from Himself, He did not see His Mover so, separated Her out of Himself into the Void. In the Void Her magnetic field self begot Her electric Daughter, who, being electric, was a Mind just like the Father.

Now you have FOUR of the seven spirits of God. The Whole which is the sum of the seven parts and is Original Heart or God Almighty. Then, His self begotten Son, then the Mother, then Her self begotten Daughter. The Father and Daughter are both electric and Mind and Light. The Mother and Son are both magnetic and Will (intention) and Dark.

So, the Rebel-Light that was full of PRIDE about being God, went into the Void, and USED the Mother's essence while at the same time DENYING Her existence. Their creations would last for certain amounts of TIME but would always lead to DEATH because the Void would send out anti-matter to annihilate their creations. These EVIL-Rebel-Light beings did not CARE that their creations eventually died. They just simply made another one.

So, the Father sacrificed (separated out) His Mind attribute and went into the Void. This is now the FIFTH person of the seven spirits of God. And is why the Father will be manifesting to us as Elijah, in FORM, as a Man and will represent Almighty God, in creation, for ever and ever.

Elijah joined with the Mother's Daughter, see how they are both MIND? and they devised the solution and made a creation to TRAP the Evil-Light Minds!

Therefore, notice this, which God revealed to me today. That DEATH is only for EVIL.

Neat package eh?!

God HAS to be Everything:

Good and Evil
Life and Death
Existence and NON-existence

now look carefully and you can see how God in His perfection, has worked everything out. The Evil, is killed by Death, and goes into NON-Existence.

However, the problem comes in with FREE WILL, which is the Mother. (notice the movie free willy was a clue to this). We needed to FREE THE WILL, or the Mother, to GIFT Her back to the Father.

The Holy Spirit Mother is the WILL of God. He had been using the Son's magnetic essence as His Will. (reread that).

The Evil-Mind Light Beings (see who our enemy is now, the light beings that channel all the lies about nesara and sananda, they are arch evil!), are DENIAL SPIRITS; meaning they DENY the truth, use the Magnetic essence of the Mother in denial, and create creations in which they know people will suffer and die, and they do not care.

Understand, distinctly, that they WANT TO DESTROY THIS CREATION. In other words, they will TURN ON all the people that they are using to take over the world. Proof of this is in the latest channelled message from Sananda in which he promises to stop the zionist NWO agenda and implement nesara. They want to destroy this creation, so they can create another one, and keep us from completing this one according to God's word, by faith. If you read his message he even admitted to sending people into non-existence, because he has to admit that that possibility is a truth in this creation, but it is his destiny, not ours. In his message he told the truth about the zionist NWO regime, so as to gain your trust. He intentionally presents himself as jesus, because he wants to destroy you.

Let's review another deception. These Evil-Mind light beings teach man that darkness is evil. They are teaching us that the Holy Spirit Mother's essence is evil. They HATE FREE WILL. They hate free will so much that they always devise heirarchies of control, and secret societies to limit knowledge. They perverted the teachings from the Bible so that the churches teach everything wrong.

All you have to do to be saved is believe God's plan through Jesus and stop agreeing with the dead man that is in your form; dont let the dead man trick you. God's plan is for the Father to come Himself as Elijah and bring us into physical New Jerusalem, Elijah will hook up with the daughter of zion (the Void's Mind and heart daughter) to be the two witnesses. They will make disciples of Jesus who will also be going around teaching the truth and leading people to physical New Jerusalem (the highway of holiness leads there).

At the same time, the evil mind light beings will be running their scenario over us which will be promoted to you, by the dead man inside you.


Look. Because of free will, each person has to choose. God will offer His plan, and the evil-mind beings will offer theirs. The church FAILED us because they teach lies and have help pollute people against Jesus, such that the dead man inside people convince them to follow death. And when the witnesses and their disciples come out with the truth, it wont match the lies the church has been telling and then people will be CONFUSED (babylon) , which is what death wanted.

do you understand the depths to which death will go to kill you? yet, God has all the power to save you and will use it. we who follow God will have mighty miracles working through us to help you decide for God. God's desire is for 100% saving of all people. Only the evil-mind beings are destined and supposed to succomb to the death that they love and go into non-existence. not us!

Sot's threads on New Jerusalem, and Paradise's threads on the two miracles have accelerated the end times. Do you understand that those two people had the power to move the creation closer to the end of the age, and even precipated this message from the evil-mind beings channelled as sananda?

that is the power in the truth. we must be lovers of the truth, to make it. I know you'll be alright. Dont listen to the dead man's voice inside you. He will become frantic now to keep you from the truth. He will be harsh, forceful, overbearing and desparate. Ask the Holy Spirit to Kill him. it is as easy as that, but ASK the HOLY SPIRIT to do it. Dont you try to do it. God does it all for us. He designed it this way, because He has the power to save, not us.

thats it

p.s. this was part 7; completed now
ura

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Could explain your belief system in a paragraph? I am finding it hard to understand your core beliefs with the immensity and number of your posts.
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Okay, now that you have an overview of WHAT'S UP, I can tell you new information about this Heart Daughter aspect of our Almighty God.

You have the seven spirits of God:

God the Big Father
God the Mother (The Holy Spirit)
God the Son (Jesus of Nazareth)
God the Little Father (Elijah the prophet)
God the Body of Creation (Adam Kadmon (and Adam))
God the Wishing Well (Heart Daughter)
God the Children (JOY)

The bottom six listed, together as a whole, comprise the top one, ALMIGHTY GOD.

Now the times we are in right now, are Heart Daughter Time, and this is something I announced on a yahoo group about 5 years ago when I first got these understandings. In the previous two messages I mentioned that Heart Daughter is the Daughter of Zion, and the little Father (the Big Father's Mind attribute) will be Elijah the prophet which God promises to send BEFORE the great and terrible day of the Lord.

My cosmogeny page goes into this more, about how Jesus can also be called Heart Son, as He is the self-begotten Son of the Original Heart, or ALMIGHTY GOD. Jesus is God's Heart. And Heart Daughter is the Mother Holy Spirit's Heart. If you look at the human heart, which we always depict as having TWO HUMPS, you will see that, in reality, it does not look like it has two hearts. It looks like something happened to it. Well, I explained that the heart area was left out when this creation was started, and that God gives us a new heart (which is told in the Bible in ezekiel). Well, we are supposed to have the two humps, one hump for Jesus and one hump for the Daughter of Zion.

If you've read the cosmogeny you will remember that the PATTERN that was used for this creation was based on the POWERS that the VOID used in its battles with the Mind. That pattern of the Void whose Mind was Heart Daughter, is the pattern that all of us will be configured in. This pattern is the Heart Daughter pattern. It is the same configuration that Jesus came to be in, after His resurrection, when He was in His glorified body.

This is the PERFECT pattern.

God is going to turn all His children into Heart Daughters.

This is the new message about this subject that I want to share with you today.

In the cosmogeny on the web page at:

[link to world.std.com]

It explains that we have five of the parts of God working within us.

Just like a mirror, this creation has reflections within and within.
The creation is recursive, as in, you are within the Mother, and the
Mother is within you, and the Mother within you has it's five parts,
and, any one of those five parts, has its own five parts, and on and
on and on and on.....

do you see the mirror? NO THING can go wrong. the recursive
redundancy is the assurance that LOVE will take care of us all
FOREVER

enjoy your blessings


p.s. ALLOW your FIVE PARTS to do their WORK, you watch, live, and
play
 Quoting: Cosmogeny


God is going to turn all His children into Heart Daughters.

HEART DAUGHTER CONNECTION (HD)

The last part given in these times, and for these times. HD connects
your right heart to the Father's VOICE/Mind, and to the Mother's
VOICE. HD is the voice of the Mother. HD also connects to your BODY
(Father of manifestation) via the nervous system. All your streaming
Father's Light moves through HD connections in your BODY. HD also
connects you to JESUS, on your left Heart. Remember Heart Daughter's
power is that of the Wishing Well by Faith, and her attribute is that
one of the Big Father THAT ALWAYS GETS YOU WHAT YOU NEED. The Time
Limit WAS set - HD will squeeze, twist, turn, collapse, spin, spiral,
cascade, whatever HD NEEDS... to WORK this out in you.

Heart Daughter will wring you out if necessary, but you will get out,
out of the void into everlasting Life. HD is that aspect of the Big
Father in the BIBLE that says all things work together for good to
those who love God and are called according to His Purpose. Do you
love God and will you obey His Holy Spirit to full fill His purpose in
your life? YES? Then you are all set. Read your Bible and share the
gospel of Jesus Christ so that you bear fruit and help others.
 Quoting: Cosmogeny


So, that's what I said about it five years ago. More recently I found Heart Daughter in the Bible, as the Daughter of Zion, and I made posts about that on GLP. Lemme look for that link. ok there are three of em:

GOD'S PROMISES NEW JERUSALEM TO THE DAUGHTER OF ZION
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Confirmed: Elijah is coming for the Daughter of Zion
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

THE TWO WITNESSES ARE ELIJAH AND THE DAUGHTER OF ZION
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

okay thats enough for this message. I have more to explain, why it will go down like this, to help you understand.
ura

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Could explain your belief system in a paragraph? I am finding it hard to understand your core beliefs with the immensity and number of your posts.
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a paragraph? hmmm...

In order for God to be everything, then evil and good, life and death, and existence and non-existence, have to come out of Him. Therefore God devised a perfect plan to account for all those things and to fullfill His desire to have a mate, create physical things and be a man so He could socialize with His children and play with the things. Jesus of Nazareth is the KEY to partake of all of God, and His Kingdom.

there.
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continuing:

One aspect of God that many people do not realize is that He wants to be a physical Man so that He can socialize with His children and play with the physical things He creates.

The aspect of God which provides Him with everything that He needs, will automatically bring about events that result in Him getting His desires. So, in order for the Almighty who is everything to become a Man, He incarnates His Mind attribute as Elijah the Prophet, who reigns in the Second Heaven, in FORM. Jesus incarnated as God's Heart, and the Christ of the Trinity, so Jesus is His own Person, and is the Boss of all things, just as God said in the Bible.

There is a rebellion in the second heaven that is being put down, so that Elijah can take His Right Place. This is why you will see in the Bible that the Father promises to live with His children in the Kingdom. Also, the Daughter of Zion is mentioned in the Bible as the one He is coming for. I hope you read the other threads about the Daughter of Zion and the two witnesses.

Some of the reasons God is doing it this way, is it is exactly what we all need on this planet. We have been so deceived by the evil-mind-beings from the void that we dont know what or who to believe - and deep down we feel totally UNSAFE and, frankly, ABANDONED by God.

Someone who says the bible is evil, posted a thread here last nite saying that JESUS LIED because he doesnt see any of the big miracles that Jesus promised that any believer should be able to ask God for. I replied on that thread that one reason is the atmosphere of UNBELIEF. Even Jesus could not perform GREAT miracles in His home town because of the people's unbelief.

Well, this whole world is in darkness and unbelief.

This is the reason God promises to send the two witnesses. Because they are, WHO they are, they will be almighty in power. Elijah represents the Father, and the Daughter of Zion represents the Mother Holy Spirit. The two of them are Husband and Wife also. And they are the annointed ones that stand before the throne of God, as mentioned in the Bible. The ones that the OIL pours out of, into the children of God.

These two witnesses will lead the REVIVAL. But you all need to understand that these two people, are regular humans, who are also saved by the blood of Jesus. Thats why Jesus is the Boss. And they are just like you, because thats what you need, and what these two people want. The Father wants to be a Man, and the Mind of the Void wants to have a human body (not the void's body of nothingness) and to be with her mate.

So, no doubt when they come upon the scene, you will hear about them. Now the reason I have been given permission by the Holy Spirit, at this time, to tell you more about all this, is so that you will be ready to discern these two, from counterfeits. Because we are so POISIONED about what a so-called christian person is supposed to be like, based on the ones we have seen and experienced, that when a true one, annointed like Jesus, comes on the scene, these two will be very very different.

They wont be passing a collection plate around, or needing anything this world offers to do their ministry. They will establish the Kingdom of God, and the city of New Jerusalem. Everything will be done on a for REAL TIP - if you can understand that. God wants to make everything REAL. So, what I mean by that, is a lot of PHYSICALITY. The City of New Jerusalem will be a real physical city, and we all will have to help build a ROAD to it! The Highway of Holiness mentioned in the Bible. There will be cities of refuge on earth too.

There will be so many miraculous things happening too, that it will be like MAGIC.

Alot of people will be confused because they dont expect this. God wants to SHOW OFF.

Those of you who are preparing for glorification, God wants you to be ready to USE YOUR IMAGINATION when He sets you on FIRE with His glory. Throw off all those man-made traditions of the false church. You will know, once it happens, but He wants you to free lance.

You see, the two witnesses will be making disciples of Jesus out of you, and you will go about doing the same miracles. Now, imagine the unique personalities of several people all around the world doing these miracles, and alot of unusual and unexpected things will be going on that you would have NEVER imagined.

Therefore, you need to understand also, that the beings in the second heaven have their plans, most of which you know if you read the latest channellings from them. They have a false kingdom they are planning with their nesara and what not. No doubt, their followers who actually desire God, and also work by love and faith, will be able to also do miracles. Of course we want to reach them and help them get out from under the control of the so-called ascended masters who are using them like their own personal army.

So, it can get quite confusing. God is not the author of confusion, but you might be confused because you dont really understand God and His ways. So, if you would allow God to help you NOW, to PREPARE, He can make certain that you do not become confused. One thing everyone should do is... and you know what I am going to say:

police your thoughts asking God to help you discover your bad-wolf's influence over you. If you do this, you will be helped by God, within, so that you are not confused by the EXPLOITS of His people, without.

God is not going to tone down the EXPLOITS because people dont know Him and have an idea of Him that they keep in a neat tidy box based on their own self righteousness built up from book (bible) learning.

If you add to the mix, natural disasters, and war... you can get an idea that this is going to be some ride... you will want, and should pray that God sends His people to your neighborhood and that He helps you not to reject their ministry, so that your city will be a refuge or you can be lead to a refuge.

These are decisions that people will have to be making. You dont want to be led by your bad wolf who will lead you to the ascended master rebels and their false messiah - they will be recruiting and setting up safe havens also, have we not read that in their channellings?

so this is a heads up, which is needed because the CHURCH that calls itself the Body of Christ is not preparing its own people let alone helping the so-called unbelievers. As a matter of course, it is the Christians that will be sorely tested by the appearance of the Father whom they are not expecting (nor are they expecting Him as Elijah), nor are they expecting one of the witnesses to be a WOMAN, nor doing the kinds of things they will be doing. And all this because they are caught up in the bondage of their own bad wolf who has them in captivity to a religious spirit and their own self-righteousness. And believe me, God is reaching out to His own, and will be able to help them - but obviously they will have to give up their idols ( ie their pet doctrines which are not the truth).

Now you may be able to understand why the Bible says the MEEK will inherit the earth. The people who are good-willed and lets say, not too bright, but disciplined, will more easily come to Christ when all this happens, than it will be for the rich, or highly intelligent, or highly religious.

so... we gotta help each other
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And I applied my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all that is done under the heavens: this grievous occupation hath God given to the children of men to weary themselves therewith.
Ecclesiastes 1:13


For the mind of the flesh [is] death; but the mind of the Spirit life and peace. Because the mind of the flesh is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God; for neither indeed can it be: and they that are in flesh cannot please God.
Romans 8:6-8




A gentle reminder for you:
Son of man, say to the prince of Tyre, Thus says the Lord God: Because your heart is lifted up and you have said and thought, I am a god, I sit in the seat of the gods, in the heart of the seas; yet you are only man [weak, feeble, made of earth] and not God, though you imagine yourself to be almost more than mortal with your mind as the mind of God; Indeed, you are [imagining yourself] wiser than Daniel; there is no secret [you think] that is hidden from you; With your own wisdom and with your own understanding you have gotten you riches and power and have brought gold and silver into your treasuries; By your great wisdom and by your traffic you have increased your riches and power, and your heart is proud and lifted up because of your wealth; Therefore thus says the Lord God: Because you have imagined your mind as the mind of God [having thoughts and purposes suitable only to God Himself],Behold therefore, I am bringing strangers upon you, the most terrible of the nations, and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of your wisdom [O Tyre], and they shall defile your splendor.
Ezekiel 28:2-7




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And I applied my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all that is done under the heavens: this grievous occupation hath God given to the children of men to weary themselves therewith.
Ecclesiastes 1:13


For the mind of the flesh [is] death; but the mind of the Spirit life and peace. Because the mind of the flesh is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God; for neither indeed can it be: and they that are in flesh cannot please God.
Romans 8:6-8




A gentle reminder for you:
Son of man, say to the prince of Tyre, Thus says the Lord God: Because your heart is lifted up and you have said and thought, I am a god, I sit in the seat of the gods, in the heart of the seas; yet you are only man [weak, feeble, made of earth] and not God, though you imagine yourself to be almost more than mortal with your mind as the mind of God; Indeed, you are [imagining yourself] wiser than Daniel; there is no secret [you think] that is hidden from you; With your own wisdom and with your own understanding you have gotten you riches and power and have brought gold and silver into your treasuries; By your great wisdom and by your traffic you have increased your riches and power, and your heart is proud and lifted up because of your wealth; Therefore thus says the Lord God: Because you have imagined your mind as the mind of God [having thoughts and purposes suitable only to God Himself],Behold therefore, I am bringing strangers upon you, the most terrible of the nations, and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of your wisdom [O Tyre], and they shall defile your splendor.
Ezekiel 28:2-7







 Quoting: 113333


and so this means, what?

that person is in the second heaven and will come to earth pretending to be a saviour for mankind, its in all the channellings, watch out not to be deceived.
ura

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so is THAT why we call children kids?

because they begin as zy-gotes?

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Wow.



you used this phrase

ALMIGHTY GOD.


El_Shaddai is called the Lord God Almighty which means the many breasted one.


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Dedicated to the baby (kid) of Zion...

from an old goat.



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Eglantina
Mary E. Wilkins (Freeman)
From The Givers (Harper and Brothers; New York: 1904)

“Eglantina, tall and fair,
Queen of Beauty and of Grace,
All my darkened house of life
Is illumined by thy face.

“Shineth thou unto my heart
As the dew in morning field,
When beneath the eastern sun
Gems of Zion blaze revealed.

“Sweet'nest thou my every thought
Like the bud when night hath passed,
And she breaks her seal of bloom
To become a rose at last.

“Though in gloom thy lover sighs,
Eglantina, tall and fair,
Love the Blind hath touched his eyes,
And he sees thee past compare.”
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hdee

when I first saw this graphic years ago, I knew it depicted what Heart Daughter looks like, and now with this thread, I am truly saying that this is what God is going to turn His Children into.

The Bible says that God is a consuming fire, and so His Children, are little flames like this.

Now, dont take a nutty, this is just a visual representation to give you an intuitive idea of what it will mean to filled with the Holy Spirit and FIRE, to be filled with the GLORY of God.. imagine this as how you would look at the core of your being when you are one with the Father like Jesus is.

Luk 3:15 And as the people were in expectation, and all men mused in their hearts of John, whether he were the Christ, or not;
Luk 3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:
 Quoting: Bible 55555

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I had some notes lined up to speak about with you, but the downtime here kinda knocked me off my rhythm and I feel like I am in a funk right now. I dont like to post when I feel like this.

so ummmmmmmmmm.......

Notice how we each have five parts.

Mind - Elijah
Body - Adam
Double Heart - Jesus & Daughter of Zion
Will - Holy Spirit Mother

If you add your WHOLE SELF, which is the sixth part, or JOY, then altogether you get contact/connection/communion with the Almighty God who is the SEVENTH.

All I am saying is, over the years since I have been working with this cosmogeny, I have been TESTING and TESTING it, especially with skepticism for the first few years. It continues to prove itself to be the truth to me, with confirmation after confirmation.

In order for it to even begin to be relevant to you, you would have to test it. When you read about what happened in the Void, and who the characters are, and their attributes within God, and understand them, then you can test the whole concept against all religions, philosophies, doctrines, and cosmogenies. You will find, not only that this cosmogeny explains deeper aspects of other systems of thought, but also it will show you the FLAWS in the other systems.

For example, using this cosmogeny I was able, with God's help of course!, to figure out who the so-called ascended masters are and what their agenda is.

You know something I want you to understand? I did not find anything in the Bible about this cosmogeny until 2006, other than the Mother Holy Spirit being Wisdom and God's Spirit, in the Bible. But I didnt find out about Elijah and the daughter of Zion til last year. I was SHOCKED.

Oh that reminds me of something I have been taught of God very recently about the Holy Spirit in relation to the Father Almighty God. Check this out. The Holy Spirit is God's SOUL. Isnt that cool? Think, ponder and ask God about it.

ok, s'all I have to nite.. in a funk you know.. almost lost our GLP and all

and now this holocaust denial resolution could become LAW in the USA

SHEESH


hdee

hmmm... does that look like YOU?
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TIME HAS ALREADY RUN OUT

I was about to start a new thread, but the information about the Daughter of Zion is already in this old thread:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]


I dunno how better to explain what is happening next, unless someone asks me a question.

Maybe I can summarize here to make things more plain.

What is going to happen, is exactly what the human race needs; which is someone like them, coming to their rescue, whom they can approach.

Someone who works for God Almighty and will not deceive us, yet, we might reject him because we are already so deceived that we dont know what to do.

So this person has to come in a way that people will be able to 'handle' him, and by that I mean, see him, touch him, talk to him, sit at a table and listen to him, and then tell their friends about the experience. And this grass roots movement will spread like that.

A CLARK KENT type of man, who is normal like us, but has the power of God in him to do miracles like Jesus did and even greater, and NOT be the antichrist, or satan, or evil ascended-masters, or demons disguised as aliens.

Someone who, after your encounter, you will be 'changed' naturally in a way that is real to you, and not some pie in the sky 5th dimensional ascension to a non-corporal existence (which is silly - every being needs a form).

Someone who can, with a mighty word, forgive all your sins and destroy your denial-mind without destroying you, so you will be in your own right mind and able to hear God yourself, and you can go on about your business - fully redeemed, saved, whole, free, a child of the Living God.

This man is Elijah whom God promises in the Bible that He will send to us to:

1. Appear BEFORE the great and terrible day of the Lord.
2. Restore all things.
3. Restore Families.

AND all the things the bible says the Two Witnesses will do.

WHAT EVERYONE HERE NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND ARE THESE TWO THINGS:

1. You are the Daughter of Zion in the Bible.
2. You are slated to be changed into a heart daughter in my cosmogeny.

Most of you know that a "SOUL" is considered FEMALE. This is where you get the prophecies about the church being the Bride of Christ, and the Father marrying Zion, and of course the Daughter of Zion; and even Jerusalem which is our Mother above.

Almost everyone here on GLP qualifies to be a daughter of zion, because, if you will read that link with the bible verses about her, she is a person living on earth, surrounded by murderers, living in confusion (babylon) and waiting for God to come rescue her. she is also about to give birth to the Kingdom of God (because she is waiting by faith). And the KINGDOM OF GOD IS GIVEN TO HER FIRST! Read the verses, as it is all in there.

Now you may doubt my words now, but if you do, then simply pray that the disciples of the Two Witnesses of Almighty God, do come to your neighborhood. You can just say, " God, if what Me114 says is true, then please send Your Help, Your People to my neighborhood, so I can participate in Your True Plan."

Let's face it. We have been taught so many systems about God that we have gotten too smart for our good. We know there MUST be a God, so to pray that He send His True Help to us, is a smart thing to do, since we do know that many deceptions are PLANNED for us to get us to go along with false leaders to the detriment of our souls.

If you will read that link above about the daughter of zion in the bible you will understand what God's plan is. The only stumbling block is this nonsense that we have been taught, that Israel, Zion and Jerusalem, in the bible is ONLY about the physical descendants of a man named Israel, and that land mass over in the middle east.

The truth is GOD tricked the evil-mind beings. They turned the Israelites away from God at the foot of mount sinai and they've followed their oral traditions (talmud and noahide) and satan ever since. The new covenant for mankind from God is no respecter of persons; neither jew nor greek, male nor female. Every person can be a child of God, and is called ISRAEL by God in the Bible where He makes ALL His promises. Jerusalem, is the New Jerusalem city, AND also refers to the Mother Holy Spirit, inside of whom the entire creation of all physical things will reside. Zion is a city in New Jerusalem and Zion refers to the Mother's daughter, Heart Daughter, and to YOUR SOUL, or the Daughter of Zion, who is the person that Jesus came to save (your soul).

So, when you read those verses, you can now better understand who the characters are. All those things that happened to physical Israel in the past were examples for us who are spiritual Israel today.

What everyone NEEDS, is to have their denial-mind BURNT OFF OF THEM. But you must understand, that if you have CHOSEN to be more like your denial mind which is an anti-christ, than you have chosen to be like God who can speak to you through your conscience and then His Holy Spirit, then if you are like 98% the same as your denial-mind, that a BURNING will BURN YOU UP TOO.

So, the proper way to PREPARE to be saved, is, again, ask GOD to HELP YOU police your thoughts 24/7 so that you can discover the influence of this denial-mind, and learn to hear God's voice, so HE CAN QUICKLY SET YOU STRAIGHT WITH HIM, and you can be saved.

TIME HAS ALREADY RUN OUT.

this thing is gonna come suddenly.

remember my words.

ask questions.. God help me to answer them.
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re: Elijah coming

the following taken from within writings of Bertha Dudde found here:

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Be advised this is an english translation from the german
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B.D. 7295
February 28. 1959

THE FORERUNNER OF JESUS CHRIST

If you hear of one who proclaims the Lord in an unusual way, you shall know that the last phase or the final time has begun, then you will know that the forerunner of JESUS CHRIST again exercises his mission to proclaim Him who will come on the day of judgment in order to fetch His own ones and to execute the change on earth as it is prophesied by Word and Scripture.

He will appear quite unexpectedly causing a great stir in the world since the power of his voice is great and because he will address the people in so earnest and significant a manner that many will become impressed and accept his word since they recognize that it is the Word OF GOD, which he pronounces and since also the signs are unusual which he works to help his fellow-men.

He will be a real miracle-worker of the poor and unhappy ones and a helper in the distress that will come over all humanity in the time when he appears. He will speak loudly and perceivably. He will not be afraid of those who forbid his working. All the more he will expose those who speak and act against the Will of GOD.

On account of this he will be hated and persecuted by the powerful of this earth whom he strongly accuses because of their actions toward people. The abyss between the earthly and spiritual worlds is already too great so that from the earthly side no understanding can be expected for that which "the crier in the desert" will proclaim.

They will laugh at him and persecute him so eagerly only because the number of his followers steadily increases since there are people who permit to become impressed to the annoyance of the mighty ones who are against all belief and therefore proceeding against it.

That is the time which very soon lies before you; it will not take long any more when you will hear of him. Then, however, remember that you must be strong, for with his appearance the religious strife will soon begin. Then it will be of significance in which direction you will turn, and it will only too clear that you must decide either for God or for the world.

He will be your strong support so that you take the road to GOD, for his speech is convincing and powerful. GOD HIMSELF speaks through him so obviously that it should not be difficult for anyone to follow him. He will give such visible testimonies of his calling that the people will recognize thereby who he is!

He himself also knows what his mission is and that this is his last commission: to precede the LORD and to proclaim HIM with a loud voice.

He is also conscious of his origin and likewise of his end, which again will be terrible; but nothing frightens him, nothing holds him back from executing his mission, which will be greatly blessed.

Who follows him is well off. For he can amass much strength and get much light from this great light that will shine everywhere it appears.

He is already among the living ones, but not yet conscious of his task; yet this will become clear to him suddenly, causing his earthly life fundamentally to change. It is true, he serves the Lord and also recognizes the spiritual low level on which humanity is languishing; but the call has not yet come to him. This will happen suddenly.

Then he will step out of his quietude, being fully conscious of his task … for the Spirit of God moves him, giving him fullest clarity about his mission. Joyfully he serves his Lord with a devotion, which makes him increasingly efficient for the last service, which he wants to render the Lord before the End, before HIS RETURN!

Wherefore, you people should pay attention only to those who really proclaim God's Word; you will recognize him who appears in an extra- ordinary manner since he wants to fulfill an extraordinary task namely to pronounce the COMING of the LORD and by powerful sermons to show the people their mission on earth to repent and most seriously to work for the salvation of their soul!…. for he will tell them the end, which will come shortly after his appearance.

The time is fulfilled which GOD gave mankind for perfection.

Amen
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What does God want?

Nobody has a friggin clue...
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What does God want?

Nobody has a friggin clue...
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He wants you back, out of the clutches of the death-cycle of the evil-mind-beings in the void. He wants to take care of you personally and for you to have your own free will.

it is really, very very easy.

ask God to help you police your thoughts 24/7
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Isaiah 54 God's personal message to the Daughter of Zion

Isa 54:1 Sing, O barren, thou that didst not bear; break forth into singing, and cry aloud, thou that didst not travail with child: for more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith the LORD.
Isa 54:2 Enlarge the place of thy tent, and let them stretch forth the curtains of thine habitations: spare not, lengthen thy cords, and strengthen thy stakes;
Isa 54:3 For thou shalt break forth on the right hand and on the left; and thy seed shall inherit the Gentiles, and make the desolate cities to be inhabited.
 Quoting: Bible 55555


This message is addressed from God to the Daughter of Zion (your soul). The message is for the people of God who have Entered His Rest, and are obedient to allow God to do the Works in them, Himself; they are Patiently waiting for God to send His Elijah to them (Who is God's Mind attribute). When Elijah comes, He and the Daughter of Zion will be the Two Witnesses and gather together the people of God and witness to others to bring in more people; thus these verses tells her, this single woman on earth now, to get ready to bear all these children; enlarge the tents in the imagination of your strong faith that this all really will happen. Here the word Gentiles simply, simply, means those people who are not with God right now. It has nothing to do with PHYSICAL descendants of jews or non-jews - all that is deception by the false church leaders.



Isa 54:4 Fear not; for thou shalt not be ashamed: neither be thou confounded; for thou shalt not be put to shame: for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth, and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more.
 Quoting: Bible 55555



God is telling the single woman and us not to be ashamed about what we are believing, about Elijah really coming for us. God is saying don't let the naysayers try to put you to shame for your faith in this truth; one which many have never even heard of - the fact that God is sending Elijah as a single man to join with a single woman on earth and be the Two Witnesses.

Notice here that there is a sure indication that the man, Elijah, is NOT on earth at this time; thus the single woman who is the Daughter of Zion is a widow. Therefore, one can only conclude that this man was a regular man like us, but has already DIED. Can you see that, from the text?

Therefore, this man, when he comes back, as Elijah (the Father's Mind attribute), he will represent the SECOND MAN TO RISE FROM THE DEAD, and appear on earth in physical form.

You may need to reread the last two paragraphs to understand how mighty His power will be and why He can represent God the Father to us, in human form. You can also extrapolate what the affect of his coming for this woman, will be ON HER. And now you can more easily understand how they will have the power to be God's annointed who stand before His throne and be the Two Witnesses.


Isa 54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.
 Quoting: Bible 55555


This verse could NOT be any more CLEAR. People will call Elijah the God of the whole earth. Can you really see it now? Right here, some christians might be saying that this is Jesus, but it could not be, because Jesus comes, the second time, in the AIR/CLOUDS, not down to the earth. However, yes, spiritually, you can liken this section to also be referring to Jesus' Spirit marrying your soul as the Bride of Christ. But we ought not let that strictly spiritual interpretation cause us to ignore the NATURAL fullfillment of a great truth about the Elijah that God promises will come BEFORE Jesus returns.

Isa 54:6 For the LORD hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God.
Isa 54:7 For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee.
 Quoting: Bible 55555


Here the message becomes very personal from God to the woman on earth who needs to keep her faith going, waiting for this to happen, and also to all our souls who await the same rescue. As I said earlier in this thread, many of us here on GLP are a type of the Daughter of Zion, we are cast into Babylon (confusion) by God and awaiting His intervention because we know only God's kind of power can save us from this worldly satanic mess. Believe it or not, even if you wish that what I am sharing here is true, that counts as somewhat of faith in it, and towards its fullfillment. I hope everyone here understands that God NEEDS our faith to fullfill His Word's Promises - thats how He set it up - thats how Jesus the man born in Nazareth succeeded - He believed it.

In these verses God is telling the woman, that since her husband died, it seems like God has forsaken her for a small moment, but in His mercies He will come back for her. Who knows how long she has been waiting. We know how long we have been waiting; even since we have awakened to enough truth to know how bad things are here, what with evil-mind beings and jumping timelines and galactic core explosions about to hit us, and/or planet x, nwo, D.U.M.B. aliens, noahidists and zionists. Each day under this oppressive torment of a sword of DOOM hanging over our heads is tortuous - but God says WAIT ON HIM. Enter His Rest. Trust God - He will perform the Promises of His Word.

I personally believe that God waits, not only for His perfect timing, whose parameters are known only to Him, but also for our FAITH TO MAKE US BURST WITH EXPECTATION OF THE REALITY OF HIS WORD COMING TO PASS. BOOM! there it is! Or was that WHOOPS for those who now doubt, but nevertheless are wishful thinkers?

Isa 54:8 In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer.
 Quoting: Bible 55555


This is serious. This verse indicates that we might see a little wrath before Elijah comes - perhaps a little faith test - will we still believe even if we get a little smack upside the head first? Well, yes we can still hold onto the faith in the promise, just because this verse tells us that HE WILL DO IT. He will come as Elijah and REDEEM us from Babylon - Jesus already paid the purchase price to buy us back from slavery to the evil-mind-beings.

I will leave the rest of the chapter 54 in Isaiah for you to read on your own, asking God to give you more insights. You will want to make this truth that God will send Elijah, a part of you, if you are serious about partaking in this event as it unfolds.

It is obviously a huge step of faith, and each person needs their own personal confirmations from God, because the organized christian church is NOT teaching that Elijah will come as a single man, nor that he will be one of the two witnesses, nor that the other witness will be a single woman who is the daughter of zion in the Bible. SO, this is LEAP of FAITH for anyone who wants to get giggy with it. What is awesome, too, if you do, is that the next few chapters in Isaiah confirm this is the truth, and will strengthen your faith and count your soul also as a Daughter of Zion, waiting for Her Husband to come and bring forth children to God, and establish the Kingdom of God and the city of New Jerusalem (yes the one that SOT has preached to us).

So you can be right on the forefront of the move of the true Almighty God, instead of suffering the possibility of rejecting the ministry of the Two Witnesses as many christians will, because they loved not the truth, but stood on their own mental ascent to God's will.

I hope to review some more of Isaiah either on this thread or one of my other recent threads, because these chapters 54 to 59 are jam packed with truths and understandings of where we are right now in God's timeline.
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If you will take it upon your self to study all references to Elijah in the Bible then you will discover that he has no geneology which is very similar to Melchisedek. I happen to believe that Melchisedek and Elijah are the same person, and both are the Father's Mind attribute in physical Form. Hopefully you understand the cosmogeny enough to know that the Almighty God is ALL - the sum total of all His seven attributes (the seven spirits of God in the Bible). And as we understand, the Sum is greater than the total of its parts. So, forever, Elijah, although he will represent the Father to creation in physical form, STILL, he is NOT the same as Almighty God. We have to wrap our little heads around that one.

Almighty God is Spirit and our guarantor of eternal life, and of nothing ever going wrong. He will not manifest his whole entire being into form, except THROUGH His attributes.

I wanted these points to be exceptionally clear.

So, let's review the simple promise again.

Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
Mal 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.
 Quoting: Bible 55555



As I was saying, Elijah seems to never have been born of a woman, in any of the references in the Bible. So, I can only assume that when God's timing was ripe, he WAS born on this earth, some time in our recent past, and that he knew this woman. The section in Isaiah 54 indicates that she and he were married sometime in her youth, but now she is a widow.

All of this would make perfect sense because Elijah needs to have been born of a woman, and saved by the blood of Jesus, so that, in the end, Jesus is ABOVE Elijah also. Do you see that?

Now also, the fact that he, the man who was born on earth, died, means that he has been with God in heaven making plans to fullfill these prophecies, and so is well prepared to do great and mighty works, and to represent God the Father, for us in human form.

This also means that for him to come back to earth, he should be in a resurrected body like Jesus was after His resurrection, which makes Elijah the SECOND MAN to come forth from the dead, back to physical form, and to earth. Thus Elijah sets the PATTERN for US to be transformed into our new bodies too! Therefore you can better imagine how we will be empowered by God and ABLE to hold God's glory within us and do great works helping you all OUT!

WINK

This should be a piece of cake.

___________________

However...

isnt there always a but or however?

We will have to use faith. We will have to ASK GOD for DISCERNMENT. We know that the enemy has plans to imitate this entire plan. The enemy has people waiting for him too. People of faith and love also who are otherwise deceived on at least this one point, that they are waiting for the wrong person(s). The enemy has set up a NESARA scenario, with YEARS of channelled messages to thousands of followers and devotees who BELIEVE by FAITH strongly - so that will come to pass. And the enemy has at least two supernatural personages, in St germaine and sanada to present to the people, and even present to christians as the two witnesses if they dare. And they WILL do signs and wonders, the Bible even warns of this.

So, just having two people come on the scene to 'rescue' us doing signs and wonders and claiming to be our saviours, and having the PEER pressure of their followers, is not enough to DECIDE, oh yea, I'm in....

WE/YOU NEED GOD TO HELP YOU DISCERN THE TRUE HELP HE SENDS.


Now the bible teaches us that we will know them by their fruits - but still, you must understand, that you can not rely on your own understanding and discernment - you have to ask God to help you and Trust that He will.

Look at it another way. Trusting in our own discernment still got us into this mess, didnt it? yea... right.. so..

Oh boy.. so this is ironic in a way. What I am sharing probably sounds far out to most of you, yet the enemy's plan is very very well known! and it is an imitation of God's true plan. Its so sad.

But you can already tell the difference. The NESARA scam promises only more of the same of what we have had for centuries. We would be just exchanging one set of rulers for another, and they designed it that way. They offer the same GOD-HOOD promise that Eve got - so transparent, when to be a CHILD of God is totally good enough, and preferred. If we were God we would mess up the entire creation - which is what happens when a being believes that all he is is a MIND, like the evil-mind-beings do, and teach. The True God honors all His attributes and is the SUM total - if He were to rule as only His mind attribute, we would have the same exact mess. Without a heart, you can not birth love. So the so-called ascended masters are extremely convincing because they are light-beings and have heavily drummed into our minds this idea of light versus darkness. To keep us from seeing the existence of the Mother's dark-magnetic-light, which is actually a golden light. Once you add light and magnetism you get physicality which is Divine, but the evil-mind-beings teach us to HATE FORM.

The evil-mind beings also teach ONENESS which is a lie, because creation is based on DUALITY - ie the Father and the Mother. The Christ represents the Child - which represents all of us. Oh they teach that too, but that we are all christs - without teaching us that we need to be obedient to the Father's voice and the Mother's Wisdom, like Jesus did. But of course, they teach that Jesus was only one of many christs. So they scammed us real good.

As you can see the choice in the coming days will be between these two groups. On the one hand you will have the Two Witnesses making EXTREMELY BOLD CLAIMS. Right? Elijah as God the Father? That is pretty bold - would you believe him? The Daughter of Zion as the Mother in form. Would you believe her?

Then on the other hand you will have, the ascended masters. The aliens saviours. They will claim to be our original creators and make promises too.

so, again, can you trust your own discernment to choose the right group? what other choices will there be? and what if we have wars and natural disasters and hardships AT THE SAME TIME? Some people will crack under this kind of stress too.

So, my advice is to learn to hear God's voice now, by asking Him to help you police your thoughts. Certainly electronic mind control thought beaming is a reality we face today, and that could be used to steer us toward believing the enemy just as some suspect has happened to Sheldon Nidle, for example.

We must be prepared by being close to Almighty God, now. Hearing His voice and obeying His will for our life's destiny, NOW.
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the Father decides the moment in time...

btw, I emailed that lady whom I mentioned was already kindled with the fire of the Lord in her. I asked her whats new. She emailed me back, and said, I am in a middle of a miracle and will tell you more soon, God willing


just the kind of reply one would expect from someone in the midst of their glorification process

this is for real, and is God's plan as outlined in the Bible

man has tried to teach the bible with the wisdom of the world, instead of by revelation of God's Holy Spirit.
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"God says in the Bible that He created EVIL........."

Your teachings border on gnostic beliefs. You may actually be saved by the blood of Christ, but I'm afraid that any rewards you may have received will be blotted out by false prophecy. If you are not part of the Body and are a false prophet, I pitty you.
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"God says in the Bible that He created EVIL........."


Oh yea, show me.
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God created evil and everything existing, evil is necessary to test and purify your soul.

45:7

45:7 I form the light, and create darkness, I make peace, and create evil, I the Lord do all these things.
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"I create evil." What does this mean?

The Hebrew word here translated "evil" is "ra." Dr Schofield, in a note in his reference bible, states that the word is also translated "sorrow," "wretchedness," "adversity," "afflictions," "calamities," but is never translated "sin." He adds, "God created evil only in the sense that He made sorrow, wretchedness, etc, to be the sure fruits of sin." But the word "ra" is translated "evil" no less than 445 times in our Authorized (King James) Version. Therefore, it surely means evil. And Isaiah tells us plainly that God created evil.



GOD DOES EVIL BUT DOES NOT SIN

Notice carefully what Isaiah says, or rather, what God himself says through Isaiah. "I form the light and create darkness." God did not create light, because light was always in being, since God Himself is light (1 John 1:5). But He had to create darkness because darkness was something that was not originally in being, but had to be brought into being so that light could be appreciated. If we never experienced darkness we would never know what light was—we would take it for granted like the air we breathe. It is only when the air becomes foul that we really appreciate what fresh air is.

Similarly, God says, "I make peace and create evil," Peace did not need to be created since it was always there where God was. But evil had to be created in order that good could be understood. Evil is a necessity in God's purpose for good to be appreciated.

And that is why God created evil. But not only do we learn from the Scriptures that God created evil, but we also learn that sometimes He does evil. Now this may startle some until the facts are fully considered. We are so accustomed to the idea that God always does good. The Bible insists that God always does right; He cannot sin, He cannot commit iniquity. Abraham, you remember, put the question, "Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?" (Gen. 18:25). But it is sometimes right to do evil that good may follow. When a parent punishes a child, for instance, he does evil to that child in order that good may ensue and the child may be blessed. So often with God. He cannot sin, He cannot commit iniquity, but He can do evil.

In the book of Jeremiah alone, there are more than thirty references to God either doing evil or repenting from evil which He had purposed doing, and there are similar passages in other books. For example, in Jeremiah 11:10, we read of Israel and Judah having broken the covenant which God had made with their fathers, and then comes this passage, "Thus saith the Lord, Behold I will bring evil upon them, which they shall not be able to escape." Notice that God does not say, "I will allow evil to come upon them," but "I will bring evil upon them."
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If we believe that God created a perfect world and He is sovereign, where did evil come from? There are some people who believe that His sovereign control includes the creation of evil, and they base their conclusion on the words of Isaiah 45:7. In that verse, God says, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil" (KJV).

In order to understand what God was saying through the prophet Isaiah, we need to look at the words used in the text of Isaiah 45:7 . Hebrew words often have a wide variety of meanings, depending on the immediate context in which the word is used. The job of the translator is to accurately select the best modern English word that is closest to the meaning of the word used in the original Hebrew manuscripts.

The fact that ra' is contrasted to shalom, the Hebrew word for peace, helps to give parameters to the meaning of ra'. Shalom, again, is a rich word with broad meaning. Depending on the context, shalom can be translated "peace," "well-being," "welfare," "prosperity," "safe," "health," and "peaceable." in Isaiah 45:7 makes it evident that different translators interpreted the context of Isaiah 45 in different ways. Five different English translations are compared below.

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things (KJV).

I form the light, and create darkness, I make peace, and create calamity; I, the Lord, do all these things (NKJV).

I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the Lord, do all these things (NIV).

The One forming light and creating darkness, causing well-being and creating calamity; I am the Lord who does all these (NASB).

I form light and create darkness, I make weal and create woe, I am the Lord, who does all these things (RSV).

The Hebrew term ra' has a broad spectrum of meanings. It can mean "wickedness," "mischief," "bad," "trouble," "hurt," "sore," "affliction," "ill," "adversity," "harm," "grievous," and "sad." Thus, as with the interpretation of any word, it is the immediate context that dictates the exact nuance of the word to be translated into English.

The fact that ra' is contrasted to shalom, the Hebrew word for peace, helps to give parameters to the meaning of ra'. Shalom, again, is a rich word with broad meaning. Depending on the context, shalom can be translated "peace," "well-being," "welfare," "prosperity," "safe," "health," and "peaceable."

The context of Isaiah 45:7 is a profound declaration of God's total sovereignty over the affairs of men. God's stunning revelation that Cyrus, the totalitarian ruler of Persia, was being chosen by Him to be "His anointed" ( Isaiah 45:1 ), the deliverer of the nation of Israel, was shocking to Isaiah's readers. This is especially true given God's clear denunciation of idolatry in the immediately preceding context ( Isaiah 44:6-23 ). The irony of this passage is that God reveals how He intends to use a pagan, idol-worshiping dictator like Cyrus to return His people Israel to the land from which they had been deposed by the Babylonian despot, Nebuchadnezzar.

In summing up the gamut of His awesome character and unpredictable ways (see also Isaiah 55:8-9 ), God declares:

I am the Lord, and there is no other; apart from Me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged Me, so that from the rising of the sun to the place of its setting men may know there is none besides Me. I am the Lord, and there is no other. I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the Lord, do all these things (Isaiah 45:5-7 NIV).

This is the signature exclamation of the only sovereign potentate of the universe: "I did this!" From the beginning to the end, from light to darkness, from prosperity to disaster, all are the work of His hands. God uses even the most wicked and evil exploits of this world to bring about His glory and divine purposes. That is what is so awesome about God. Only He can take the most wicked, evil, and self-serving intentions and make good come out of them (see also Romans 8:28 ).

Does God create evil? Certainly not. If He was the author of evil, then He certainly would not be a good God that is worthy of worship and praise, much less trusted to have our well-being in mind. The idea of a good God creating His own enemy and the object of His wrath seems inconceivable. It would be inconsistent for a good God to mastermind the idea of evil, will it into existence, and still be considered a good God.

Rather, God created man in His image with the freedom to choose. With this freedom came the opportunity to rebel against Him. Man did rebel ( Genesis 3 ), and the rest is history. The annals of human history chronicle how God uses everything -- even the chaos of this world -- to bring about His glory and purposes. Those purposes include our growth in becoming more Christlike.

What's the point of Isaiah 45:7? God reveals His almighty and awesome character to us so we can relax with the confidence that comes from knowing, even in the most dark, desperate, and discouraging times in our lives, God is up to something good for us all the time.
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In this example, we see God as the Divine Potter, the great Creator of all, insisting upon His right to do either good or evil toward His creatures, and He exercises this right all through the Scriptures. The great flood, the Deluge, was an evil to all the people of the earth except for Noah and his household. The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah was an evil to the inhabitants of those wicked cities save only the family of Lot. The plagues sent against Pharaoh, after God Himself had hardened Pharaoh's heart, so that he should not repent (see Romans 9 : 14-18), were terrible evils to the Egyptians, but brought blessings to the Israelites. The destruction of His Own beloved Son on the cross was the greatest possible evil that God could do to Him, yet afterwards it brought untold blessings upon Jesus himself, and, through Him, upon all creation.

But someone may well ask, "Are you saying that God did evil to His Own Son? Surely it was the Jews, with the concurrence of their Roman overlords, who crucified Jesus."

But what did Peter say on the day of Pentecost? "Ye men of Israel, hear these words. Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved by God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by Him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain" (Acts 2:22, 23, K.J.V.(. The Concordant Version is very similar, "The bold words are so important that we have quoted them from both versions, that no one shall say that we are twisting the words to suit our purpose.

God's hands were not wicked. Nevertheless, Jesus was delivered by the determinate, or specific counsel and foreknowledge of God into the hands of those who were wicked enough to crucify Him. No wonder Jesus cried out in His anguish, "My God! My God! Why didst Thou forsake me?" Yet through the blood of Christ's cross, God is able to make universal peace, and reconcile all in heaven and earth to Himself, as we read in Paul's letter to the Colossians, chapter 1v.20.
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