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Nostradamus was mis-interpreted. The antichrist is not what you think or who you'd expect

 
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Nostradamus was mis-interpreted. The antichrist is not what you think or who you'd expect
The antichrists of Nostradamus are an invention of modern interpretations. I can explain in detail if you are interested.

But first I'll give you some teasers for some background info.

There is no mention that Napolean was an antichrist
There is no mention that Hister was an antichrist.
There is no mention that Mabus is to be an antichrist.
There is no mention that a muslim is to be an antichrist

In any quatrain of Nossies.

So, for the teasers, lets look at related actual events of the past:

-- Century 6 Q. 97 (English translation) --
The sky will burn at 45 degrees,
Fire approaches the New City.
Immediately a huge, scattered flame leaps up
When they want to have proof of the Normans.

Ignore the last line as it is too obscure, and the first may be a reference to the latitude of New York city, which is a little over 40 degrees North, but the rest is clearly a description of 9/11. No big deal. Most know about this already.

-- Century 10 Q.72 (Engl. Trans.) --
In the year 1999 and seven months,
from the sky will come the great King of Terror.
He will bring back to life the great King of the Mongols.
Before and after War reigns happily.

This is another 9/11 prophesy, but it was a warning. In July 1999, one of the lead terrorists of one of the cells which hijacked one of the doomed planes arrived in the US to begin their flight training. We should have been watching.
Now the great king of terror - the spectre of terrorism came to the us that day. And no, the king of terror is not the antichrist, just terrorism.
Is the great King of the Mongols the antichrist you ask.
NO. No certainty about who it is, but I can assure you as you will see from future posts, that it is not the antichrist.

(I sometimes worry that the great king of the Mongols who was awakened that day might be the chinese who say for the first time that the US may actually be vulnerable, and have been waging, thankfully, only an economic war since then. I wouldn't worry about this too much though, they wouldn't dare attack the US or the West. They are much more likely to trade weapons to the middle east for oil, so causing lots of minor 'irritations' instead.)

So who is the antichrist and what are they going to do. It's all in there. Clear as day, if you can clear away your preconceptions.

See you soon.
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The anti-christ is Planet X and the coming earth changes. No doubt about it. We are all in for a very big eye opener .
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"There is no mention that Napolean was an antichrist
There is no mention that Hister was an antichrist.
There is no mention that Mabus is to be an antichrist.
There is no mention that a muslim is to be an antichrist"

that i totally agree with. it is something that majority of people do not know and just take the propeganda as facts.
Have you noticed in all prophecies (no matter who) the West and Christianity always wins? THis alone should tell you right away that it is all propeganda.

Prophecies by themselves exist, but their interpertations are all taylored according to needs.
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This is another 9/11 prophesy, but it was a warning. In July 1999, one of the lead terrorists of one of the cells which hijacked one of the doomed planes arrived in the US to begin their flight training. We should have been watching.

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Hi OP hi


wtf mate?


does someone else want to break it to him? popcorn


i dont have the heart right now lol
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p.s.

the anti christ is anyone who denies christ



like me


through education


why dont you pray to a non fictitious entity


like the sun



thats who jesus is anyway


the SUN of GOD
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One must think outside the box ... we have been deceived much too long now . Look up and watch .
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The feathered snake has arrived.
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Praise the Holy Of Holy::1Jo 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. ::Praise the Lamb:amen
Holy, holy,holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.Praise the one who gives you peace beyond all understanding Yes that scripture still sounds good !
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laugh

Praise the Holy Of Holy::1Jo 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. ::Praise the Lamb:amen
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hey winged bro


you know i didnt mean to offend you right?


only, theres too much evidence mate


sorry hf
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The feathered snake has arrived.
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The anti-christ is a French tickler.

Wasn't there some such thing about sins of the flesh being the biggest reason so many are going to hell.

Hell, for want of a tickler. Capricious gods.
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The singularity. The Christ spirit!

[link to www.cymek.com]

Messenger of the gods

[link to gwydir.demon.co.uk]

Two examples of the Christ spirit

If you are not in this spirit then you are in the opposite pole which is the spirit of the father?

The father is the spirit of Mars, ruler of the flesh

Two examples of the father:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.meridiangraphics.net]

So, basically we have two choices, the spirit of the christ or the spirit of the father. If you're not in the spirit of the christ then the father must be the anti christ?
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The feathered snake has arrived.
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You mean the Cherub that lost his wings?
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-- Century 6 Q. 97 (English translation) --
The sky will burn at 45 degrees,
Fire approaches the New City.
Immediately a huge, scattered flame leaps up
When they want to have proof of the Normans.

Skip the last line because it is too obscure?
And don't bother to be honest with the literal translation!

You idiot!

Nostradamus said the sky would burn at 5 and 40 degrees.
New York city sits at 40.5 degrees.

Lines 2 & 3 are self explanitory in regard to the approaching highjacked airlines, and the flame that errupted from the "windows" upon impact. The last line is about the very next day!

On Sept. 12th 2001, President Bush called on NATO to invoke article five of the Nato Charter that states: an attack on one member would be considered an attack on all its members".

Napoleon was the first antichrist;
Hitler was the second (and the book of Revelation confirms this.)
And the third antichrist is Muslim, but not Suddam or Mabus.
Study your material.
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Ignore the last line as it is too obscure, and the first may be a reference to the latitude of New York city, which is a little over 40 degrees North, but the rest is clearly a description of 9/11. No big deal. Most know about this already.

This is another 9/11 prophesy, but it was a warning.
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Bullshit, and more bullshit.

Nostradamus DID NOT 'king of terror', OR 'mongols'. Those are just bad AND stupid translations.




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Return of the op!

I appreciate all the comments. I have learnt a few things. My focus wasn't specifically on 9/11, but my point was that the events had nothing to do with an antichrist.

I liked the interpretation of 5 and 40 being the latitude of NY i.e. 40.5, but I have also heard of another interpretation that may interest some. Latitude 40 degrees, Longitude GMT + 5 hours. Exact x-y co-ordinates! The NATO Norman relationship is good too. Excellent.

I wonder why everyone thinks Mabus is an evil individual? All that is mentioned of him is that he dies before some bad times happen.

My real interest, however, is in letting you know who the real antichrist is.

But first, what is the antichrist going to do? Some think that the antichrist is any non-christian, but that does not explain the following. The antichrist must be very much more anti christian to achieve what will soon happen:

-- C.8 Q.98 --
Of the church men, the blood will be poured forth as abundant as water;
for a long time it will not be restrained,
woe, woe, for the clergy ruin and grief.

-- C.5 Q.43 --
The great ruin of the clergy is not far off,
Provence, Naples, Sicily, Sees and Pons,
In Germany at the Rhine and Cologne,
vexed to death by those of Maine

Who is the antichrist? Who could achieve such results?

The answers to come.
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petre romanos probably.
the cornerstone
the nazarene
Fantasia II
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Christianity
George Orwell was right..Black is White, Up is Down, War is Peace...

"Never believe anything until it has been officially denied."

Yesterday is history.......Tomorrow a mystery.......Today is a gift......thats why we call it the Present!!!
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Fred Fanning, my next door neighbor.

He's an atheist. It must be him.

Mabus is the current Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas.
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-- Century 6 Q. 97 (English translation) --
The sky will burn at 45 degrees,
Fire approaches the New City.
Immediately a huge, scattered flame leaps up
When they want to have proof of the Normans.

Skip the last line because it is too obscure?
And don't bother to be honest with the literal translation!

You idiot!

Nostradamus said the sky would burn at 5 and 40 degrees.
New York city sits at 40.5 degrees.

Lines 2 & 3 are self explanitory in regard to the approaching highjacked airlines, and the flame that errupted from the "windows" upon impact. The last line is about the very next day!

On Sept. 12th 2001, President Bush called on NATO to invoke article five of the Nato Charter that states: an attack on one member would be considered an attack on all its members".

Napoleon was the first antichrist;
Hitler was the second (and the book of Revelation confirms this.)
And the third antichrist is Muslim, but not Suddam or Mabus.
Study your material.
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5 hrs and 40 degrees! Makes much more sense to me.

Now who's the idiot, idiot?
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The antichrist isn't a person.

Its the capitalist one world fascist police state we are heading for.
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Praise the Holy Of Holy::1Jo 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. ::Praise the Lamb:amen
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Praise the Holy of Holy:When you look at the things the U.S.A. and there forien policy it hard to reason out all of the things we do!But if you look in the spiritual, you realize where our policies come from!::Rev 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
Rev 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
Rev 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
Rev 16:16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon. ::Praise the Holy Lamb:Amen: A name you hear a lot of is Henry Kissinger,Bush said in his TV interview last week that Henry kissinger had advised him an a book to read.A couple of moths ago Henry Kissinger was a opponted by the Pope as the new political advisor.Then I was watching the Newest discloser ufo vidio that Henry Kisinger was a major player in the hiding of UFO tecknoligy!There are many more Henry Kissinger involments in our lives!How does he fit into the scriptures above?
Holy, holy,holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.Praise the one who gives you peace beyond all understanding Yes that scripture still sounds good !
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AntiChrist is not a person but a personality we call Television. 'He' arrived eer a long time ago.
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"Nostradamus was mis-interpreted. The antichrist is not what you think or who you'd expect"


Who the hell would go to Nostradamus to learn about the anti-Christ anyway?

Or take his word for anything regarding the anti-Christ?

rofl
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What is with all the teasers? Just spill it already!
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I prefer Negrodamus myself
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I liked the interpretation of 5 and 40 being the latitude of NY i.e. 40.5, but I have also heard of another interpretation that may interest some. Latitude 40 degrees, Longitude GMT + 5 hours. Exact x-y co-ordinates! The NATO Norman relationship is good too. Excellent.

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5 & 40 degrees

5 hours West, 40 degrees north!

Amazing.

This would have to be one of the most accurate prophesies recorded, wouldn't it.
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What is with all the teasers? Just spill it already!
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From op:
All will be revealed at 11:33 pm NYC time tonight.
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Doesn't matter what Nostramadus said. It matters what the bible said.
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"There is no mention that Napolean was an antichrist
There is no mention that Hister was an antichrist.
There is no mention that Mabus is to be an antichrist.
There is no mention that a muslim is to be an antichrist"

that i totally agree with. it is something that majority of people do not know and just take the propeganda as facts.

Can a single one of you prove or at least show in writing that any of the above is not true?
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I am the OP. I am not the antichrist. This will be my final post.

As we have seen, the church is to undergo ruin and persecution:

-- C.8 Q.98 --
Of the church men, the blood will be poured forth as abundant as water;
for a long time it will not be restrained,
woe, woe, for the clergy ruin and grief.

-- C.5 Q.43 --
The great ruin of the clergy is not far off,
Provence, Naples, Sicily, Sees and Pons,
In Germany at the Rhine and Cologne,
vexed to death by those of Maine

The antichrist will cause this to happen.
But not through a direct attack on the church - their defenses are too strong.

The antichrist will cause an awakening.
All humans will become awake to the reality of our lives,
and the lies which we have been told, not just by the church,
but by every human who has ever strived for power over others.

The awakening will cause much discontent.

Many will be persecuted and held accountable - including the church.

The antichrist will, amongst other things, cause the end of the belief in Christ the son of God.

The antichrist is not one person, but three:

-- C.8 Q.77 --
The antichrist three very soon annihilates
20 & 7 years of blood endured this war
The unbelievers dead, captive and exiled
Blood, human bodies and red hail covering the earth.

In this amazing quatrain, one of few that actually mention the word antichrist, we are told several things:
There are three people who are considered the antichrist,
and it doesn't take long for them to destroy
the 20 & 7 (2007) years of blood caused by the christ fraud.
A fraud which has caused war, and the persecution of many forward, rational thinkers.
A fraud which has cost millions of lives.

But how will the three achieve this:

-- C.8 Q.99 --
Through the powers of three temporal kings,
the sacred seat will be put in another place,
where the substance of the body and the spirit
will be restored and received as the true seat.

The three will cause the sacred seat (the church) to go away (physically or metaphorically),
and an awakening, a realisation of our reality, our body and spirit, will occur (will be restored, finally!) and we

will accept it as the true seat - our true reality.

And who are they - the temporal kings? Obviously not warrior leaders or leaders of a country, but temporal kings.

Kings who lead by ideas and thought. Philosophers in some way, but very clearly, Writers!

-- C.10 Q65 --
Oh vast Rome, your ruin draws near,
not of your walls, but of your blood and substance;
the sharp one in letters will make so horrid a notch,
pointed steel wounding all the way to the sleeve.

Three writers/authors will bring about the awakening that will see an end to the church.

I know who they are, but they don't. I will tell you here, and you will know, but they will deny it.

But their destiny is clear. Humanity will be awakened. Humanity will mature.
That is their objective, and Christ and the church will be put far away.

An atheist who is tolerant of religion is not an antichrist.
Christ and his church and the irrationalities have ruined our existence and our planet.
The antichrist is very much against the church. The church, and human irrationality are evil.

Let the naming begin:

1) The first author who is probably the most visible anti-church proponent today is Richard Dawkins. His message is clear. He has created the framework for exposing the destructive irrationalities caused by belief in non-reality, believing in a higher power other than the self, the body and the spirit.

On its own, his material makes an interesting read, but struggles to be powerful enough to change any 'believers' views.
[link to www.richarddawkins.net]

2) The second author is a scholar who has attacked the church using the churches own historical writings, many of which have been suppressed and many of which are contradictory to their current writings. Unfortunately, he lives in fear of his life and I must respect his wishes and not advertise his name here. (But it is not Dan Brown!)

His writings expose the lies of the Christian church, exposing them as the fraud that they are. His works, which are of a highly detailed and academic nature, will one day be held up to the church with the demand "Tell us it is not so!"

3) The third author, who will complete the puzzle, and be the gel which links the three together into an unstoppable force for change, is someone that I met recently. My quest was to find this person, and now I have. He does not agree that he is an antichrist, but I know the prophesy, and I say to him that his work will awaken people to the lies that they've been told, and will show them the truth of our existence. Such an awakening cannot help but undermine the dark tactics of the church.

I have been fortunate to have had a sneak preview of this work, The Twin Paradox, and I could see the future. I could see a future where the quest for power does not guide human history. I could see a future where humans open their eyes to who they really are.

You can preview it here. I am informed that the world can expect its release in late February. That will mark the beginning of humanity's next phase. Enlightenment will not come to us through magic, through alien ESP or through a universal frequency shift. It will come through wisdom, knowledge and conscious awareness.

[link to www.the-twin-paradox.com]

The authors above will object to their inclusion in this list. That is to be expected. They are modest individuals who only strive to improve our lives. Combined, their influence will reshape this world.

That is all.
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Oh for freakin' pete's sake, go sell your freakin' boring book elsewhere.

Why does every freakin' jerk on the internet think they can sell books by recycling old woo-woo talking points?

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