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The Walking Dead BROKE FCC regulations! GRAPHIC violence before 10PM is ILLEGAL. - UPDATE: does not apply to cable, I was wrong.

 
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I had to leave the room, hubby watched the second half without me. I will never watch that show again, and ive watched it all.

The gross brutality and evilness was over the top and its this kind of evil that has desensitized our nation to the point that real death does not shock us anymore.

I am angry that they did this! Screw them! They lost viewers for it!
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What are the statutes and rules regarding the broadcast of obscene, indecent, and profane programming? Title 18 of the United States Code, Section 1464, prohibits the utterance of any obscene, indecent or profane language by means of radio communication. Consistent with a subsequent statute and court case, the Commission's rules prohibit the broadcast of indecent material during the period of 6 a.m. and 10 p.m. FCC decisions also prohibit the broadcast of profane material between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m. Civil enforcement of these requirements rests with the FCC, and is an important part of the FCC's overall responsibilities. At the same time, the FCC must be mindful of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and Section 326 of the Communications Act, which prohibit the FCC from censoring program material, or interfering with broadcasters' free speech rights.

What makes material obscene? Obscene speech is not protected by the First Amendment and broadcasters are prohibited, by statute and regulation, from airing obscene programming at any time. According to the U.S. Supreme Court, to be obscene, material must meet a three-prong test: (1) an average person, applying contemporary community standards, must find that the material, as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest (i.e., material having a tendency to excite lustful thoughts); (2) the material must depict or describe, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by applicable law; and (3) the material, taken as a whole, must lack serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value. The Supreme Court has indicated that this test is designed to cover hard-core pornography.

What makes material indecent? Indecent material contains sexual or excretory material that does not rise to the level of obscenity. For this reason, the courts have held that indecent material is protected by the First Amendment and cannot be banned entirely. It may, however, be restricted to avoid its broadcast during times of the day when there is a reasonable risk that children may be in the audience. The FCC has determined, with the approval of the courts, that there is a reasonable risk that children will be in the audience from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m., local time. Therefore, the FCC prohibits station licensees from broadcasting indecent material during that period.


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I was wrong, these regulations do not apply to cable TV.




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There are a couple of other threads regarding the latest airing of this show. I've never watched it, and the other threads don't mention what was actually shown other than something about how messed up it was. If even the hard-core fans of the show are upset, I guess it must have been pretty bad.
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doesnt apply to cable tv.
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Ooooookay, just saw that video above. It didn't load for me the first time. Wow.
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doesnt apply to cable tv.
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Q: Does the FCC regulate the content of cable programming?

A: Cable television system operators generally make their own selection of channels and programs to be distributed to subscribers in response to consumer demands. The Commission does, however, have rules in some areas that are applicable to programming -- called "origination cablecasting" in the rules -- that are subject to the editorial control of the cable system operator. The rules generally do not apply to the content of broadcast channels or to access channels over which the cable system operator has no editorial control.

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Yes, it was horrific, but this was cable, and there were HUGE warnings in BIG LETTERS at the start of the show, and after every commercial break stating "GRAPHIC VIOLENCE".

What did they think was going to happen with a barbed wire wrapped ball bat?? Whacking tennis balls or something?
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doesnt apply to cable tv.
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Not true. AMC has to censor itself that's why they have the director cuts of TWD where they swear "fuck" on BlueRay.
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I had to leave the room, hubby watched the second half without me. I will never watch that show again, and ive watched it all.

The gross brutality and evilness was over the top and its this kind of evil that has desensitized our nation to the point that real death does not shock us anymore.

I am angry that they did this! Screw them! They lost viewers for it!
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doesnt apply to cable tv.
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Not true. AMC has to censor itself that's why they have the director cuts of TWD where they swear "fuck" on BlueRay.
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Has there been a single episode that didn't show graphic violence? Why is this an issue now?
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doesnt apply to cable tv.
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doesnt apply to cable tv.
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Not true. AMC has to censor itself that's why they have the director cuts of TWD where they swear "fuck" on BlueRay.
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AMC is a paid premium channel. The reg does not apply. Also if you look at the reg and its placement it is regarding pornography.
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doesnt apply to cable tv.
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bump

Q: Does the FCC regulate the content of cable programming?

A: Cable television system operators generally make their own selection of channels and programs to be distributed to subscribers in response to consumer demands. The Commission does, however, have rules in some areas that are applicable to programming -- called "origination cablecasting" in the rules -- that are subject to the editorial control of the cable system operator. The rules generally do not apply to the content of broadcast channels or to access channels over which the cable system operator has no editorial control.

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That's an interesting piece of legal jargon. It states they do have some rules, but that they generally do not apply to the content... what do they apply to?

TWD have routinely discussed flying under the radar of what's allowed on TV on TTD... so they clearly have rules. They do not use "fuck", but they use "shit"

Is using FUCK worse than showing this kind of violence that surmounts to torture porn?
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Yes, it was horrific, but this was cable, and there were HUGE warnings in BIG LETTERS at the start of the show, and after every commercial break stating "GRAPHIC VIOLENCE".

What did they think was going to happen with a barbed wire wrapped ball bat?? Whacking tennis balls or something?
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Well first of all, many of us record show and skip right to the show so we never saw 1 warning. Secondly,we watch death on this show every episode so the expectation was that the carnage should have been in a similar vein, which it was not!

a baseball bat wrapped in bwire? You mean like when we see them carrying machetes and stakes in other episodes?
That bat in and of itself did not create the horribleness of the scenes, the writers and director and producers did.
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There was a six month warning...
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With all the stuff going on in the world, this is what you worry about?
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That's on broadcast.

Cable doesn't have to follow those rules.
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It does appear it does not apply to cable, I was wrong.



But I still think they should have shown that version separately and a toned down version for TV.
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Yes, it was horrific, but this was cable, and there were HUGE warnings in BIG LETTERS at the start of the show, and after every commercial break stating "GRAPHIC VIOLENCE".

What did they think was going to happen with a barbed wire wrapped ball bat?? Whacking tennis balls or something?
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Well first of all, many of us record show and skip right to the show so we never saw 1 warning. Secondly,we watch death on this show every episode so the expectation was that the carnage should have been in a similar vein, which it was not!

a baseball bat wrapped in bwire? You mean like when we see them carrying machetes and stakes in other episodes?
That bat in and of itself did not create the horribleness of the scenes, the writers and director and producers did.
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There was a six month warning...
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What do you mean?
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doesnt apply to cable tv.
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Not true. AMC has to censor itself that's why they have the director cuts of TWD where they swear "fuck" on BlueRay.
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Has there been a single episode that didn't show graphic violence? Why is this an issue now?
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It's some mkultra'esque programmed response. People saying nearly identical statements in the same tone. Here, and social media. There's an agenda - though I don't know what it is.

It really makes no sense that this would be the tipping point. They've point blank shot 2 little girls and Carl's been shot twice. If you're gonna cross a line - that should be the line right? Not a bludgeoning - when they do it to walkers weekly AND it's all but identical to the comic book which has been out forever, so people knew this was coming.

I think it's the same programming that triggers when they hear "trump" and "make Ameica great again."
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I had to leave the room, hubby watched the second half without me. I will never watch that show again, and ive watched it all.

The gross brutality and evilness was over the top and its this kind of evil that has desensitized our nation to the point that real death does not shock us anymore.

I am angry that they did this! Screw them! They lost viewers for it!
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^^100% ditto this^^
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There was a six month warning...
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What do you mean?
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Anyone that watches the show and saw the finale last season understood what was going to happen.
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There was a six month warning...
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What do you mean?
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Anyone that watches the show and saw the finale last season understood what was going to happen.
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Don't misunderstand, I'm not approving of the violence. But it wasn't out if nowhere which would have been much worse.
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Yes, it was horrific, but this was cable, and there were HUGE warnings in BIG LETTERS at the start of the show, and after every commercial break stating "GRAPHIC VIOLENCE".

What did they think was going to happen with a barbed wire wrapped ball bat?? Whacking tennis balls or something?
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Well first of all, many of us record show and skip right to the show so we never saw 1 warning. Secondly,we watch death on this show every episode so the expectation was that the carnage should have been in a similar vein, which it was not!

a baseball bat wrapped in bwire? You mean like when we see them carrying machetes and stakes in other episodes?
That bat in and of itself did not create the horribleness of the scenes, the writers and director and producers did.
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Come on. You seriously need a warning? It's The Walking Dead. Everybody and their dog knows that there is going to be violence and that each year they try to outdo themselves.

Personally, yes, I think it's over the top, but I'm not going to complain about graphic violence on a show that has been graphically violent for years now.
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There was a six month warning...
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What do you mean?
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Anyone that watches the show and saw the finale last season understood what was going to happen.
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I knew what was coming too. I have read the #100 comic, watched every episode.

It was the way it was done.

It did not maintain the expected levels of violence but exceeded them and surpassed anything shown on TV, ever. In a sense they broke the trust of the public by subjecting the viewers to a level of violence not yet established on the show. In many instances the violence was comic-book before whereas this was a snuff film re-enactment.
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Fuck you, OP, for trying to be a nanny.
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There was a six month warning...
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What do you mean?
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Anyone that watches the show and saw the finale last season understood what was going to happen.
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I knew what was coming too. I have read the #100 comic, watched every episode.

It was the way it was done.

It did not maintain the expected levels of violence but exceeded them and surpassed anything shown on TV, ever. In a sense they broke the trust of the public by subjecting the viewers to a level of violence not yet established on the show. In many instances the violence was comic-book before whereas this was a snuff film re-enactment.
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Why did you continue to watch? I watched part of the clip that you posted, and then stopped. I don't want that shit entering my brain. Just like all of the graphic videos that are posted on GLP. Most people have a choice in what they expose themselves to. Cable television is one of those things.
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I had to leave the room, hubby watched the second half without me. I will never watch that show again, and ive watched it all.

The gross brutality and evilness was over the top and its this kind of evil that has desensitized our nation to the point that real death does not shock us anymore.

I am angry that they did this! Screw them! They lost viewers for it!
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What are the statutes and rules regarding the broadcast of obscene, indecent, and profane programming? Title 18 of the United States Code, Section 1464, prohibits the utterance of any obscene, indecent or profane language by means of radio communication. Consistent with a subsequent statute and court case, the Commission's rules prohibit the broadcast of indecent material during the period of 6 a.m. and 10 p.m. FCC decisions also prohibit the broadcast of profane material between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m. Civil enforcement of these requirements rests with the FCC, and is an important part of the FCC's overall responsibilities. At the same time, the FCC must be mindful of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and Section 326 of the Communications Act, which prohibit the FCC from censoring program material, or interfering with broadcasters' free speech rights.

What makes material obscene? Obscene speech is not protected by the First Amendment and broadcasters are prohibited, by statute and regulation, from airing obscene programming at any time. According to the U.S. Supreme Court, to be obscene, material must meet a three-prong test: (1) an average person, applying contemporary community standards, must find that the material, as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest (i.e., material having a tendency to excite lustful thoughts); (2) the material must depict or describe, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by applicable law; and (3) the material, taken as a whole, must lack serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value. The Supreme Court has indicated that this test is designed to cover hard-core pornography.

What makes material indecent? Indecent material contains sexual or excretory material that does not rise to the level of obscenity. For this reason, the courts have held that indecent material is protected by the First Amendment and cannot be banned entirely. It may, however, be restricted to avoid its broadcast during times of the day when there is a reasonable risk that children may be in the audience. The FCC has determined, with the approval of the courts, that there is a reasonable risk that children will be in the audience from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m., local time. Therefore, the FCC prohibits station licensees from broadcasting indecent material during that period.


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You sound a little touched in the head. You didn't understand the basic rules, you went into immediate outrage mode, and you were upset that a shot about ZOMBIES is brutal?

Gimmie a break.
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What do you mean?
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Anyone that watches the show and saw the finale last season understood what was going to happen.
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I knew what was coming too. I have read the #100 comic, watched every episode.

It was the way it was done.

It did not maintain the expected levels of violence but exceeded them and surpassed anything shown on TV, ever. In a sense they broke the trust of the public by subjecting the viewers to a level of violence not yet established on the show. In many instances the violence was comic-book before whereas this was a snuff film re-enactment.
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Why did you continue to watch? I watched part of the clip that you posted, and then stopped. I don't want that shit entering my brain. Just like all of the graphic videos that are posted on GLP. Most people have a choice in what they expose themselves to. Cable television is one of those things.
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I watched until the part Negan was getting Rick to cut off Carl's arm... I felt it was just too much at that point. I did see him stop Rick, but I did some dishes and lost interest.

Not an enjoyable way to spend my Sunday evening in truth...

But I love the zombie genre; Day of the Dead, Dawn of the Dead, The Return of the Living Dead my 3 favs so I became a fan of the show.

But I think the Negan kill scene was done in bad taste, specifically the Glenn death.
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I haven't watched that show in a long time, that clip in the opening post was disturbing, the way it played out with the killer taking great pleasure in bashing their brains in while the others had to watch was almost more disturbing than the graphic content. I wonder if parents are letting their kids watch this shit.

I actually cringed and closed my eyes a time or two watching that video, and I've seen almost everything.
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I think its interesting how I get called a red karma tagged "pussy" and like-minded comments. Negan called the group "pussies" for crying while he was smashing in Glenn's skull.

Sure are turning into a nice bunch of people.


If you don't like watching a man's brains get smashed into jelly you're a pussy....



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