SO how does TRUMP win the ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTE?

It's not suppose to be Democratic. It's a republic. If it we were Democratic, we'd be Greece....

most people don't think The Electoral College is a problem.

the fact that most people don't even know what The Electoral College is,
is a problem in itself.

Don't be fooled. No one in the electoral college can vote against the will of the people without subjecting themselves to legal prosecution. Sure, they can throw their votes to the wind, but that can be disputed, a new person put in their place who will vote properly and in over half the states that will happen while the scam voter sits in jail.

Don't be fooled into thinking the electoral college decides who gets in, that's just another scam they will try to get away with if the people are stupid enough to fall for it and NOT PROSECUTE. The only reason the electoral college exists is to give small states a voice in elections, and NOT to throw the vote one way or another.

Some of the stuff said in this thread is really going to help election theft if people actually believe it.

whose shill are you ?

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Lets start with 2012 electoral map as the starting point.

Trump MUST win
-Florida
-Ohio

Then if you merely add
-New Hampshire
-Iowa
-Nevada

it would be a 269-269 tie in the electoral college
Add in the 1 point from Northern Maine, a state that splits it electoral points and Trump would win 270-268

Of course he cant lose Romney states that some are considered in play this year like Arizona, Utah, Georgia, North Carolina.....he absolutely must win all of these.

lol how? the fbi announce they are reopening the investigation

tough at this point

This may be the last ditch in the effort to stop Trump. Some states require their electors to follow the state's popular vote. Some don't and their electors are free agents, though usually following their state's vote. Some Republican electors once vowed 'never Trump'.

That would be a major political problem.

It will be hard for trump. from what i've seen he has to win all the swing states. Hillary only one.

Hillary has lost almost all her votes. it's a whole new ballgame.

Electorates who are bound to vote with the popular vote, yet who vote against the popular, only face small fines and misdemeanor charges (small potatoes). In other words, the EC can vote any way they want. Congress protects the establishment and their own asses. They may very well go rogue with their votes this time. Trump can win in a landslide with the pop vote, but lose in the EC vote.

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not the electoral votes...

Population centers control how states vote because those cities are where the vast majority of voters live. To give each county one vote regardless of population is a blatant denial of majority rule and a violation of the citizens' voting rights.

The government is a republic in that we elect representatives to vote on our behalf, not in that we deny the voting public its voice.

and that is where Trump may lose the election...electoral votes "trump" popular votes...

I understand and agree about majority rule. There would be no violation of citizens voting rights. They could vote for any party and whoever wins in that county would be a vote for that individual casted by a representative of that county. The voting public would not be denied a voice. They have every right to vote....

Its just not right that a majority of people in a city could swing an election for an entire state. It would be more fair if each county would swing towards a certain candidate and vote. Then you could say that the majority of people and the majority people living in various counties voted a certain way towards one candidate....

The same fallacy is with the Electoral Votes. It all goes by population per state on how many electoral votes a State gets. There are 50 States in the Union. A much fairer way would be to have a candidate win 26 States to win a Presidential Election.

Trump will win a lot more states than polls are showing.

(1) Blacks will not to show up to vote for Hillary like they did for Barry.

(2) The polls are "over sampled" (Dem term) to poll more dems, less Reps, and a lot less Indys.

(3) Indys will go to Trump, by a wide margin, and they outnumber Dems or Reps

(4) Primaries showed that a record number of Reps came out to vote, and they will be even stronger due to all the Dem criminal actions that have been exposed since. Dems had lower turnout than recent elections, and only a few crazy feminazi types will be enthusiastic due to the lies about Trump, but most of the Dems are not interested. Even THEY think she is "untrustworthy."

Trump train will roll, come election day.

Wrong. You do not understand what a republic is.

It has nothing to do with represenatives. You can have a republic even with a direct vote of the populace.

The difference between a democracy and a republic is that in a democracy, the majority rules, no matter what (a lynch mob is a democracy), but in a republic, the majoriy rules ONLY if they do not violate the fundamental rights of the minority (a lynch mob is NOT valid in a republic).

The fundamental rights are enshrined in the Constitution, especially the 9th Amendment. Majority does NOT rule if they majority is attempting to violate the rights of the minority. That's why "voting rights" have changed over time.

Voting is ONLY a constitutional right, not a fundamental right. The vote is a fiction based on the fiction of government itself, whereas a fundamental right is one that existed BEFORE government existed.

The Electoral College exists BECAUSE population centers (and large, populous ststes) should NOT be able to run roughshod over everyone else.

Is this the case tonight?