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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71451758 United States 10/27/2016 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no absolute guarantee that the electorates will vote as they are expected. That is why the system stinks and that is why we won't know who the president really is until at least January 6. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72973289 the Electoral College is the secret trap-door for the Power Elite, just in case they don't like the voting results. DING DING DING! You just hit the nail on the head!!! well, "it doesn't take a weatherman to know which way the wind blows". |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72973289 United States 10/27/2016 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is how it works: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71179039 We (citizens) vote, and if we turn the state blue or red, we send delegates accordingly based on population. 16 of these states, if turned red, are NOT required to actually vote Republican even if they win. The electoral college scares me, as it is not a balance of power or a representation of the will of the people. My guess is Trump will win 80% of the popular vote and in return lose the electoral college because it is frankly, corrupt. Still, go vote. I do not know how the Republican party is handling the situation. In particular, i do not think they want to remain out of power and under Democrat control for another four years, so I am hoping they will atleast make sure that the electorates who go will vote Republican. I pretty much said the same thing here: Thread: If Trump wins on Nov 8, it's still far from over |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72130409 United States 10/27/2016 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | None of that matters unless he wins the electoral votes.......Hitlery already has 100 electoral votes over him..... LibertyNEWS.com Projection (Click here for real-time map). Hillary Clinton – 230 Donald Trump – 235 Our analysis of the race as it stands provides results that are profoundly different than those of CNN, for example. CNN Projection (ignore FANTASY) Hillary Clinton – 307 Donald Trump – 179 Unlike CNN, we did dig deeper. We removed the heavy weight of Democrat respondents from polling results, then we looked at primary turnout and early voting statistics. When these data points are combined we got a much different picture. In Florida, for example, Hillary Clinton obtained more votes than Trump in the primary. Florida Primary Votes: Hillary Clinton – 1,097,400 Donald Trump – 1,077,221 This stat is often cited by MSM pundits to provide credibility to their flawed findings. What they don’t explain is the overall party primary votes cast. Florida Primary Votes by Party: Democrats – 1,702,878 Republicans – 2,355,183 That’s a 500,000+ vote advantage right out of the gate. Granted, we can’t assume all of those Republicans will turn out and vote for Trump. But there are some assumptions we can make and those assumptions don’t help Clinton. Now look at the latest Bloomberg poll for Florida. Unlike most polls the MSM uses, Bloomberg actually properly weighted their sample universe by party. Bloomberg Results: Hillary Clinton – 43% Donald Trump – 45% What Bloomberg can’t tell us is where the majority of Independents will end up on election day. But they did include a healthy sample of Independents in the poll with an equal number of Republicans and Democrats. The results show Trump with a slight lead. Additionally, the Democrat Party has waved the white flag on the Florida Senate race. Marco Rubio is highly likely to win with a comfortable margin. And Rubio’s command of the southern Florida vote should lend tremendous help to Trump’s efforts in that part of the state. We looked at several polls, corrected their weighting methodology, looked at early voting data and came to the conclusion that Donald Trump has the edge. We found the same in states like North Carolina and Arizona, two states the MSM has written off for Clinton. Furthermore, when looking at the same landscape for states like Ohio, Colorado and Pennsylvania, we don’t find enough evidence to suggest Trump is in the lead. But we also cannot find enough evidence to suggest Clinton has those states locked up. CNN has written off both Pennsylvania and Colorado for Clinton, two states we believe can go either way. With all of that said, the following is where we believe the landscape would be if the election were being held today. This could certainly change between now and then, of course, but right now this is what our data has us comfortable with. CURRENT PROJECTED ELECTORAL VOTE STANDINGS HILLARY CLINTON 230 ELECTORAL VOTES DONALD TRUMP 235 ELECTORAL VOTES Note: Orange denotes states that cannot yet be projected. Hover over each state to reveal TRUMP'S LEADING OF COURSE |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 57187329 United States 10/27/2016 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | None of that matters unless he wins the electoral votes.......Hitlery already has 100 electoral votes over him..... LibertyNEWS.com Projection (Click here for real-time map). Hillary Clinton – 230 Donald Trump – 235 Our analysis of the race as it stands provides results that are profoundly different than those of CNN, for example. CNN Projection (ignore FANTASY) Hillary Clinton – 307 Donald Trump – 179 Unlike CNN, we did dig deeper. We removed the heavy weight of Democrat respondents from polling results, then we looked at primary turnout and early voting statistics. When these data points are combined we got a much different picture. In Florida, for example, Hillary Clinton obtained more votes than Trump in the primary. Florida Primary Votes: Hillary Clinton – 1,097,400 Donald Trump – 1,077,221 This stat is often cited by MSM pundits to provide credibility to their flawed findings. What they don’t explain is the overall party primary votes cast. Florida Primary Votes by Party: Democrats – 1,702,878 Republicans – 2,355,183 That’s a 500,000+ vote advantage right out of the gate. Granted, we can’t assume all of those Republicans will turn out and vote for Trump. But there are some assumptions we can make and those assumptions don’t help Clinton. Now look at the latest Bloomberg poll for Florida. Unlike most polls the MSM uses, Bloomberg actually properly weighted their sample universe by party. Bloomberg Results: Hillary Clinton – 43% Donald Trump – 45% What Bloomberg can’t tell us is where the majority of Independents will end up on election day. But they did include a healthy sample of Independents in the poll with an equal number of Republicans and Democrats. The results show Trump with a slight lead. Additionally, the Democrat Party has waved the white flag on the Florida Senate race. Marco Rubio is highly likely to win with a comfortable margin. And Rubio’s command of the southern Florida vote should lend tremendous help to Trump’s efforts in that part of the state. We looked at several polls, corrected their weighting methodology, looked at early voting data and came to the conclusion that Donald Trump has the edge. We found the same in states like North Carolina and Arizona, two states the MSM has written off for Clinton. Furthermore, when looking at the same landscape for states like Ohio, Colorado and Pennsylvania, we don’t find enough evidence to suggest Trump is in the lead. But we also cannot find enough evidence to suggest Clinton has those states locked up. CNN has written off both Pennsylvania and Colorado for Clinton, two states we believe can go either way. With all of that said, the following is where we believe the landscape would be if the election were being held today. This could certainly change between now and then, of course, but right now this is what our data has us comfortable with. CURRENT PROJECTED ELECTORAL VOTE STANDINGS HILLARY CLINTON 230 ELECTORAL VOTES DONALD TRUMP 235 ELECTORAL VOTES Note: Orange denotes states that cannot yet be projected. Hover over each state to reveal TRUMP'S LEADING OF COURSE None of that matters unless he wins the electoral votes.......Hitlery already has 100 electoral votes over him..... LibertyNEWS.com Projection (Click here for real-time map). Hillary Clinton – 230 Donald Trump – 235 Our analysis of the race as it stands provides results that are profoundly different than those of CNN, for example. CNN Projection (ignore FANTASY) Hillary Clinton – 307 Donald Trump – 179 Unlike CNN, we did dig deeper. We removed the heavy weight of Democrat respondents from polling results, then we looked at primary turnout and early voting statistics. When these data points are combined we got a much different picture. In Florida, for example, Hillary Clinton obtained more votes than Trump in the primary. Florida Primary Votes: Hillary Clinton – 1,097,400 Donald Trump – 1,077,221 This stat is often cited by MSM pundits to provide credibility to their flawed findings. What they don’t explain is the overall party primary votes cast. Florida Primary Votes by Party: Democrats – 1,702,878 Republicans – 2,355,183 That’s a 500,000+ vote advantage right out of the gate. Granted, we can’t assume all of those Republicans will turn out and vote for Trump. But there are some assumptions we can make and those assumptions don’t help Clinton. Now look at the latest Bloomberg poll for Florida. Unlike most polls the MSM uses, Bloomberg actually properly weighted their sample universe by party. Bloomberg Results: Hillary Clinton – 43% Donald Trump – 45% What Bloomberg can’t tell us is where the majority of Independents will end up on election day. But they did include a healthy sample of Independents in the poll with an equal number of Republicans and Democrats. The results show Trump with a slight lead. Additionally, the Democrat Party has waved the white flag on the Florida Senate race. Marco Rubio is highly likely to win with a comfortable margin. And Rubio’s command of the southern Florida vote should lend tremendous help to Trump’s efforts in that part of the state. We looked at several polls, corrected their weighting methodology, looked at early voting data and came to the conclusion that Donald Trump has the edge. We found the same in states like North Carolina and Arizona, two states the MSM has written off for Clinton. Furthermore, when looking at the same landscape for states like Ohio, Colorado and Pennsylvania, we don’t find enough evidence to suggest Trump is in the lead. But we also cannot find enough evidence to suggest Clinton has those states locked up. CNN has written off both Pennsylvania and Colorado for Clinton, two states we believe can go either way. With all of that said, the following is where we believe the landscape would be if the election were being held today. This could certainly change between now and then, of course, but right now this is what our data has us comfortable with. CURRENT PROJECTED ELECTORAL VOTE STANDINGS HILLARY CLINTON 230 ELECTORAL VOTES DONALD TRUMP 235 ELECTORAL VOTES Note: Orange denotes states that cannot yet be projected. Hover over each state to reveal TRUMP'S LEADING OF COURSE Yadda yards yadda....yea but people go by the main stream media stats like CNN FOX NEWS AND MSNBC......not some independent hillbilly news source......in the end the MSM WINS......UNFORTUNATELY |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72130409 United States 10/27/2016 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hillary Clinton – 230 Donald Trump – 235 Our analysis of the race as it stands provides results that are profoundly different than those of CNN, for example. CNN Projection (ignore FANTASY) Hillary Clinton – 307 Donald Trump – 179 Unlike CNN, we did dig deeper. We removed the heavy weight of Democrat respondents from polling results, then we looked at primary turnout and early voting statistics. When these data points are combined we got a much different picture. In Florida, for example, Hillary Clinton obtained more votes than Trump in the primary. Florida Primary Votes: Hillary Clinton – 1,097,400 Donald Trump – 1,077,221 This stat is often cited by MSM pundits to provide credibility to their flawed findings. What they don’t explain is the overall party primary votes cast. Florida Primary Votes by Party: Democrats – 1,702,878 Republicans – 2,355,183 That’s a 500,000+ vote advantage right out of the gate. Granted, we can’t assume all of those Republicans will turn out and vote for Trump. But there are some assumptions we can make and those assumptions don’t help Clinton. Now look at the latest Bloomberg poll for Florida. Unlike most polls the MSM uses, Bloomberg actually properly weighted their sample universe by party. Bloomberg Results: Hillary Clinton – 43% Donald Trump – 45% What Bloomberg can’t tell us is where the majority of Independents will end up on election day. But they did include a healthy sample of Independents in the poll with an equal number of Republicans and Democrats. The results show Trump with a slight lead. Additionally, the Democrat Party has waved the white flag on the Florida Senate race. Marco Rubio is highly likely to win with a comfortable margin. And Rubio’s command of the southern Florida vote should lend tremendous help to Trump’s efforts in that part of the state. We looked at several polls, corrected their weighting methodology, looked at early voting data and came to the conclusion that Donald Trump has the edge. We found the same in states like North Carolina and Arizona, two states the MSM has written off for Clinton. Furthermore, when looking at the same landscape for states like Ohio, Colorado and Pennsylvania, we don’t find enough evidence to suggest Trump is in the lead. But we also cannot find enough evidence to suggest Clinton has those states locked up. CNN has written off both Pennsylvania and Colorado for Clinton, two states we believe can go either way. With all of that said, the following is where we believe the landscape would be if the election were being held today. This could certainly change between now and then, of course, but right now this is what our data has us comfortable with. None of that matters unless he wins the electoral votes.......Hitlery already has 100 electoral votes over him..... LibertyNEWS.com Projection (Click here for real-time map). Hillary Clinton – 230 Donald Trump – 235 Our analysis of the race as it stands provides results that are profoundly different than those of CNN, for example. CNN Projection (ignore FANTASY) Hillary Clinton – 307 Donald Trump – 179 Unlike CNN, we did dig deeper. We removed the heavy weight of Democrat respondents from polling results, then we looked at primary turnout and early voting statistics. When these data points are combined we got a much different picture. In Florida, for example, Hillary Clinton obtained more votes than Trump in the primary. Florida Primary Votes: Hillary Clinton – 1,097,400 Donald Trump – 1,077,221 This stat is often cited by MSM pundits to provide credibility to their flawed findings. What they don’t explain is the overall party primary votes cast. Florida Primary Votes by Party: Democrats – 1,702,878 Republicans – 2,355,183 That’s a 500,000+ vote advantage right out of the gate. Granted, we can’t assume all of those Republicans will turn out and vote for Trump. But there are some assumptions we can make and those assumptions don’t help Clinton. Now look at the latest Bloomberg poll for Florida. Unlike most polls the MSM uses, Bloomberg actually properly weighted their sample universe by party. Bloomberg Results: Hillary Clinton – 43% Donald Trump – 45% What Bloomberg can’t tell us is where the majority of Independents will end up on election day. But they did include a healthy sample of Independents in the poll with an equal number of Republicans and Democrats. The results show Trump with a slight lead. Additionally, the Democrat Party has waved the white flag on the Florida Senate race. Marco Rubio is highly likely to win with a comfortable margin. And Rubio’s command of the southern Florida vote should lend tremendous help to Trump’s efforts in that part of the state. We looked at several polls, corrected their weighting methodology, looked at early voting data and came to the conclusion that Donald Trump has the edge. We found the same in states like North Carolina and Arizona, two states the MSM has written off for Clinton. Furthermore, when looking at the same landscape for states like Ohio, Colorado and Pennsylvania, we don’t find enough evidence to suggest Trump is in the lead. But we also cannot find enough evidence to suggest Clinton has those states locked up. CNN has written off both Pennsylvania and Colorado for Clinton, two states we believe can go either way. With all of that said, the following is where we believe the landscape would be if the election were being held today. This could certainly change between now and then, of course, but right now this is what our data has us comfortable with. CURRENT PROJECTED ELECTORAL VOTE STANDINGS HILLARY CLINTON 230 ELECTORAL VOTES DONALD TRUMP 235 ELECTORAL VOTES Note: Orange denotes states that cannot yet be projected. Hover over each state to reveal TRUMP'S LEADING OF COURSE Yadda yards yadda....yea but people go by the main stream media stats like CNN FOX NEWS AND MSNBC......not some independent hillbilly news source......in the end the MSM WINS......UNFORTUNATELY YOU WANT ANOTHER FUCKIN ANSWER FIND IT YOURSELF FYCKTARD! |
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Oldmotherhubbard User ID: 60562529 United States 10/27/2016 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In Virginia, anyone that is able to vote can be a candidate for electoral college, at least that's how I understand it. Here's the list of our electoral electors It's broken down by party so you have to click on each link [link to www.elections.virginia.gov] You should be able to go to your own states election board website and find the electors listed there. Oldmotherhubbardglp (at) live.com ~mistakes are proof that you are trying~ ~be kind to unkind people, for they are the ones that need it the most~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71451758 United States 10/27/2016 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the General vote means nothing.. why would Trump be vehemently campaigning non-stop in multiple counties in every state? His staffers, and himself, must think it's important? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72275828 in the "Presidential Race" you have to play the game in order to get to the final level to finesse the finish. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46435937 United States 10/27/2016 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Electoral college is an antiquated institution that REALLY should not have a say in the peoples voice. It unfairly puts the power of the electorate into the hands of the rich. Quoting: A Deplorable ShrinK Only way to get rid of it is to write it out of the Constitution and have it ratified out of existence by the states. When Trump gets in and he begins to work on congressional term limits, maybe he will also look at updating and adding some key amendments to the Constitution for our posterity....time will tell...crossing fingers, toes and eyes! Tings I would like to see gone: -EC abolished -2 party politics abolished. -Executive branch powers gutted and amended so that we NEVER EVER have an imperial presidency ever again. -Better checks and balances to prevent crooked politicians from getting rich off the citizen or system. -Tougher penalties for crooked politicians. -Foreign policy to be voted on by the citizens of the country. etc... The ELectoral College is an INSTITUTION put into place by the Founding Fathers when the system was set up for voting in the first place. They are REPRESENTATIVES of the People. Basically the reason for them is so that there is somewhat EQUAL voice for all the states....even the small ones. The electorial college is also designed to upturn a popular vote based on the idea that the electorate is Learned and knowledgeable. We are a republic not a democracy. This may be a time when the electorate would have valid cause to upturn a trump vote for Hillary. The electorate will usually vote with the popular vote but they can overturn when they feel there is strong cause. To my knowledge nothing compels them to vote with the people but they usually do so. As others have said this only happened 3 times in history. Hillary has so much baggage that even the Ec may not want to overturn. |
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Abiogenesis User ID: 71079926 United States 10/27/2016 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NEEDS TO WIN ONE OF THE FOLLOWING: VA, NH, MIN, MICH, WISC, COLO OR PENN. **a win in any one of those states who likely correlate to him winning the other necessary swing states to get >269 Last Edited by Abiogenesis on 10/27/2016 04:59 PM |
JeffersunTzu User ID: 73022177 United States 10/27/2016 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump does not need to win PA or VA to get to 270. 1. He needs the Romney states 2. Florida and Ohio 3. IA, NV, UT, AZ 4. CO or NH and the 1 EC vote from ME "The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of Patriots." "He who knows when he can fight and when he can not, will be victorious." "Part of being a winner is knowing when enough is enough. Sometimes you have to give up the fight and walk away, and move on to something that's more productive." "Sometimes by losing a battle you find a new way to win the war." |
Sungaze_At_Dawn User ID: 73221749 Canada 10/27/2016 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wait a second. So in your country you don't have votes? You then have a small group that determines it? What the flying fuck is that? Last Edited by Sungaze_At_Dawn on 10/27/2016 05:01 PM The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
JeffersunTzu User ID: 73022177 United States 10/27/2016 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wait a second. So in your country you don't have votes? You then have a small group that determines it? Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn What the flying fuck is that? Most states force the EC to follow the vote of the people I believe. "The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of Patriots." "He who knows when he can fight and when he can not, will be victorious." "Part of being a winner is knowing when enough is enough. Sometimes you have to give up the fight and walk away, and move on to something that's more productive." "Sometimes by losing a battle you find a new way to win the war." |
Sungaze_At_Dawn User ID: 73221749 Canada 10/27/2016 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wait a second. So in your country you don't have votes? You then have a small group that determines it? Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn What the flying fuck is that? Most states force the EC to follow the vote of the people I believe. Well it should be the people who would tar and feather and drive into shark infested waters at gunpoint, not the ones they elect in their states. This is unheard of. The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73279063 United States 10/27/2016 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTE? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70731876 Can kiss my ass...the people make the choice...the ECV is a control opposition. Wow you don't know what the electoral college is? no...i will google it. one question tho Does ECV Trump the peoples vote? And if so...why? And why would I vote when some elites do it for me anyways? ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTE? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70731876 Can kiss my ass...the people make the choice...the ECV is a control opposition. Wow you don't know what the electoral college is? no...i will google it. one question tho Does ECV Trump the peoples vote? And if so...why? And why would I vote when some elites do it for me anyways? Yup ECV vote trumps the people vote.....the people vote is a sham Exactly, Trump is part of the system, it is all going how the elites have planned. He cannot win the ECV, unless the media and all the commies are planning on being honest this time?!?!? You people supporting Trump are deluding yourself. If Trump does get in, it's because that is how it is all planned. The elections would be the FIRST thing the commies would rig, wouldn't they??!?!?!?!?!? Of coarse they would. It's clear to see what the plan is, and it isn't going to stop unless there is quite literally an ARMED revolution. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73157502 United States 10/27/2016 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He would if it wasn't for the shitbag flatlander imbeciles in Philthydelphia and Pshittsburg. The areas that had 105% turnout in 2008 with 100% of votes going to Obama. And the stupid liberal yuppies that live in the burbs. The rest of PA is solidly behind Trump. Maybe some folks in the city will figure it out, maybe not. These are the people who elected Tom Wolf as governor, so don't hold your breath. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72871346 United States 10/27/2016 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He needs to win Arizona, Ohio, Iowa, North Carolina, Florida, Nevada, and Pennsylvania. If he gets all of those, he is in for sure. If he wins Pennsylvania, he could afford to lose one or two of the smaller states like Iowa or Nevada. Put simply though, as has been said earlier, Pennsylvania. |