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Desperat situation I need advice NOW...please read and give me your opinion re: DD forced surgery in county jail...HELP!!!!!

 
xvi
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Desperat situation I need advice NOW...please read and give me your opinion re: DD forced surgery in county jail...HELP!!!!!
My daughter was arrested last week because of old traffic tickets she failed to pay. Upon entering the jail they discovered that she was pregnant, she was suprised but said it was possible. When I called to arrange to visit her I was informed that she had been taken to the hospital but they refused to tell me why, I called the hospital and they also refused to tell me anything, also refused to let me speak with her. I was unable to get there being that the jail/hospital are over an hour away and roads were closed due to heavy snow.
When she got back to the jail she finally was allowed to call me and said she had undergone surgery for a tubal pregnancy. I am furious that they did surgery on my child and did not notify us, she could have died! So today I finally got to visit her and she said she begged them to call me but they said we might try to break her out!!!WTF!!! The Dr. told her they removed pregnancy tissue but under lab analysis did not find the embryo/ fetus/whatever so maybe they didn't get it all! Also she overheard the Dr. say the surgery may not have been necessary! Since we were not allowed to know this was going on we obviously had no choice regarding having our Dr.'s give her an exam. Mostly I am angry that the jail made all these choices for my family, and that my DD could have died...would they bury her and refuse to tell me that too! Now I wonder did they murder my unborn grandchild?!!! I feel like vomiting! Any one who knows if this may be common practice or whatever please give me your comments. It seems downright illegal to me. It seems a far bigger crime than what my DD did. So tonight she is still there alone in that harsh enviroment with a belly wound and drugged up on pain pills...Any Dr.s, Lawyers, LEOs, COs, regular folks with similar stories or just an opinion let me hear from you...What should I do know...????
P.S. DD is 26 years old, we are very close and she was in tears begging someone to call her Father and I. The guards said NO for over a week....so mad so mad so mad!!!!!!!!! wtf
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01/23/2007 07:47 PM
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You should start your complaint at the hospital. They were the ones that denied you.
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01/23/2007 07:52 PM
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Old traffic tickets? And they put her in jail?
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01/23/2007 07:55 PM
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Re: Desperat situation I need advice NOW...please read and give me your opinion re: DD forced surgery in county jail...HELP!!!!!
DD said the Dr claimed to have called the jail to get permission to call us and that they told her (the Dr.) No...I blame them all but is this legal? Thanks for your reply hf
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01/23/2007 07:59 PM
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If she is over 18 your permission is not necessary.
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01/23/2007 08:00 PM
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Why wouldn't the Dr. have simply asked your 26 year old daughter for your contact info?
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01/23/2007 08:02 PM
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Yes superfox, she didn't pay them or go to court ...in another county, judge issued a warrant and a 2000.00 cash bond...I have taught my kids that the law is on the side of right but I am so feeling like wrong...I don't think any of this makes sense. She was wrong on the ticket thing but this is so beyond that...she has severe learning disabilities also and can barely read ... I don't even know what to feel...I have never been so angry in all my life!
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01/23/2007 08:05 PM
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My permission isn't the point...she did give them contact info...and begged them to call us... their reason was we might try to break her out of the hospital ...we are good citizens, never been in any trouble ... the whole thing is F'n criminal!
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01/23/2007 08:06 PM
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Oh, she was proccessed and serving. Raise hell, but don't expect much.
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01/23/2007 08:17 PM
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Yes superfox, she didn't pay them or go to court ...in another county, judge issued a warrant and a 2000.00 cash bond...I have taught my kids that the law is on the side of right but I am so feeling like wrong...I don't think any of this makes sense. She was wrong on the ticket thing but this is so beyond that...she has severe learning disabilities also and can barely read ... I don't even know what to feel...I have never been so angry in all my life!
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Its a bad situtation for sure but there might be some good to come from it all. Sometimes a wake-up call like this can keep her out of trouble later on in life.

Anyhow, I dont know any legal stuff. Have you looked in the phone book for a bail bondsman? If you have AAA they can post bond for you. Says so on my AAA card.

I hope everything works out safe for you and DD. Chin up! Its not the end of the world.
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01/23/2007 08:30 PM
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Thanks Superfox...We are working on getting her out right now...planned to let her learn a lesson and then they go and do this! I have to change my tune on the law always being right I feel like an idiot! My house is going on the market next week and I am moving my family to the farthest flung mountaintop I can find... not kidding! Thanks again to you and all who post here for me hf
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Something isn't right here. They don't normally do a medical exam for a person being held for parking violations.
Bottom line, pay your tickets and keep low key. You are fortunate they didn't send her to a fema camp. It is coming next for even the mildest of infractions.
Don't give them any reason to take you down.
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01/23/2007 08:39 PM
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Idiot yes
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01/23/2007 08:39 PM
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If she was over 18 and gave informed consent for the surgery you have nothing legally to say about the matter.

If she was under 18, retain an attorney.
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Re: Desperat situation I need advice NOW...please read and give me your opinion re: DD forced surgery in county jail...HELP!!!!!
ac...fema gave us a blue tarp to live under way back in the day when a hurricane blew our house down...funny you mention them...so helpful...a blue tarp...we were so thankful as we stood among the rubble!...I gotta cook dinner for my grandson that the government didn't get to kill...oh that sounds bitter...tastes bitter too...I'll be back afterwhile...hope y'all keep posting so i will have something to read to take my mind off of the fact that I can't do anything else tonight but bitch about it...;-)
oh the hurricane was marilyn...xvi= ex-virgin islander...
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01/23/2007 09:27 PM
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Three words OP...

GET A LAWYER!
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01/23/2007 10:26 PM
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OMG... DD just called... feeling ill, stomach pains and "her insides are coming out" ... she's going to tell the nurse but if she goes back to hospital she won't be able to call and tell me... Guess now we get a lawyer and loose our life savings...
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01/23/2007 10:35 PM
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this is just awful--- prayers for your family
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Re: Desperat situation I need advice NOW...please read and give me your opinion re: DD forced surgery in county jail...HELP!!!!!
There are certainly grounds for a lawsuit.
But that doesn't usually bring much satisfaction.

Get her out ASAP, then go with her to the hospital.

Publicize this enough and those responsible might be held to account.
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bump
shameless self bump...I am still hoping someone might have something relevent to say that might help us know where to turn.
Hang on !
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01/24/2007 05:24 AM
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Wow OP, that is mind boggling.

Just because someone is poor with outstanding PARKING TICKETS they throw them in jail and do EXPERIMENTAL SURGERY on them ??

HOLY SHIT< that is fucking unbelievable....
and if she has severe enough learning disabilities as you say,
then how can she give permission for something if she did not understand the ramifications of it ?

This smells like a big fat lawsuit OP,
PLEASE connect yourself with a good lawyer.

Incredible.
I will say a prayer for DD,
and you too OP.


Good luck and stay strong grouphug

and please come back and let us know how everything turns out
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P.S. DD is 26 years old
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Then you have NO right to interfere, and even TELLING you what they did means they broke several laws!




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Re: Desperat situation I need advice NOW...please read and give me your opinion re: DD forced surgery in county jail...HELP!!!!!
thanks ...that is exactly how I feel! called all night but still no new info...nervous and can't sleep. She is poor but we aren't and could have paid the stupid tickets if she told us about them...we can afford a good lawyer and come morning I will be hiring one...thanks to you for the prayers as we certainly need some ...just hoping she is okay and they haven't permanantly damaged her...or that she doesn't die in that hell-hole.we are wondering if the silence and no info is standard or if they are trying to cover-up something...I just want her outta there so she can see our Dr at a decent hospital...the place they took her for this surgery is awful... love your language "experimental surgery" I think I will be using that in the series of phone calls I am planning to make when the sun comes up!
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Re: Desperat situation I need advice NOW...please read and give me your opinion re: DD forced surgery in county jail...HELP!!!!!
who cares...whaddaya mean...They didn't tell us anything obviously...only heard it from DD... I don't care if she is 65 she is my daughter...WTF is with that attitude...would you want this to happen to you and be told its none of yur beeswax? She wants us to know, we want to know...why is giving life or death info on a family member illegal why keep it a secret unless ya got something to hide...if you are saying thats the law well thats real BS and only might be in place to protect the wrong doing of the jail...otherwise it seems senseless and hurtful dontcha think? I really hope you come back and tell me what you mean..thanks
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Re: Desperat situation I need advice NOW...please read and give me your opinion re: DD forced surgery in county jail...HELP!!!!!
I really want to know why it is illegal for them to update me on her health status? She was home sunday and feeling fine...sunday night arrested, by tue or wed, not sure when exactly b/c no info...she is having a pregnancy terminated that we knew nothing about...it seems like what has happened to her is more illegal than her crimes of no proof of insurance and expired tags on someone elses car that she was driving...I don't/won't know if this surgery was necessary b/c its already been done(and badly)...why is it illegal to give an inmates medical info to their family when they are sick enough for hospital/ surgery???? Why not give us the oppertunity to have our family Dr. see her...did they think our OB/GYN would try to break her out too...only the on call co. hospital surgeon can be trusted? I will know soon when i talk to a lawyer . This girl can barely read...does not understand "big" words...can't write much more than her name!!! She wouldn't have told them that b/c she has always been super embarrased by her disabilities...If this is common practice I think everyone with people they care about should be scared shitless.Its none of my business if it were my husband, my mother...so wrong ...I would want someone to know if it were me and obviously my daughter wanted us to know...so sad for her... screw this f'd up LAW!
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Re: Desperat situation I need advice NOW...please read and give me your opinion re: DD forced surgery in county jail...HELP!!!!!
I really want to know why it is illegal for them to update me on her health status? She was home sunday and feeling fine...sunday night arrested, by tue or wed, not sure when exactly b/c no info...she is having a pregnancy terminated that we knew nothing about...it seems like what has happened to her is more illegal than her crimes of no proof of insurance and expired tags on someone elses car that she was driving...I don't/won't know if this surgery was necessary b/c its already been done(and badly)...why is it illegal to give an inmates medical info to their family when they are sick enough for hospital/ surgery???? Why not give us the oppertunity to have our family Dr. see her...did they think our OB/GYN would try to break her out too...only the on call co. hospital surgeon can be trusted? I will know soon when i talk to a lawyer . This girl can barely read...does not understand "big" words...can't write much more than her name!!! She wouldn't have told them that b/c she has always been super embarrased by her disabilities...If this is common practice I think everyone with people they care about should be scared shitless.Its none of my business if it were my husband, my mother...so wrong ...I would want someone to know if it were me and obviously my daughter wanted us to know...so sad for her... screw this f'd up LAW!
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sorry got knocked offline...have no idea how i double posted w/ no connection!...technology... ain't it great? hiding
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huh...whats RW? I don't get it... explain anyone...what is BS the situation or me???
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Ok. My son was 21 and 2 days when he was arrested for fighting and needed stitches to close a head wound and I did not find out about it for TWO DAYS! He was incarcerated here at home when he was supposed to be at the beach. Unless you have Power Of Attorney over your daughter there isn't much you can do. I would speak to a lawyer immediately about this. It sounds like a crime has been committed, but a lawyer would be better to speak to.
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WELL that wat happens when u dont pay fines the COPS COME AFTER YOU

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