In all seriousness, assuming the worst...

All or nothing!!

there are no negotiations going on, we're fucked.

brave creative thinkers will prevail

The U.S. and Israel are not negotiating with anyone. Other countries may be trying to form alliances that will tilt the balance of power, but that's it.

If they don't seek terms now, there can only be escalation. At first pop, US-Russia may be launch on warning. Let's hope some negotiations are in play.

would US pull outta Middle East, if Russia and China promise open energy markets in their regions of influence?

There may be some negotiation meetings going on, but I believe Bush has definately shown that he will not offer any consessions. If there is to be an agreement, it will have to come from Iran.

The Bush Admin. wants escalation. They have no intentions of allowing agreements to be made.

They want Iran and North Korea dealt with.. not a full escalation with Russia and China, which would be the result of reckless war-planning.

Iran has nothing to gain by making concessions and nothing to lose by refusing to make concessions. I forget who was saying this - whether it was in an article or in an interview I heard - but we have nothing Iran wants or needs. They do not have to do anything the Bush Admin wants or demands.

this hypothetical is AFTER Israel nukes Iran... what of the major powers...

THE ORDERS GIVEN WERE NOT FOLLOWED...SO TIMETABLES ASIDE...THERE WILL BE NO ATTACK ON IRAN

APPARENTLY THE JOINT CHIEFS HAVE OTHER PLANS FOR THE MILITARY...

The negotiations aren't to prevent the war against Iran (that has already been decided), but for the de-escalation. Would the West allow Israel to be overrun? Would Russia invade or launch on Israel... Knowing the scenario, would it be in Russia's best interest to pre-empt and strike America/Israel before hostilities open against Iran?

There is no way to de-escalate the violence. Once Russia or China comes to Iran's defence it will be "no holds barred".

I agree with Agent 2X that this is exactly what the Bush administration wants. The Military/Corporate economy demands it. They are wanting to return to the "good ole days" of the cold war. The real problem is that you can't go back in time and you can't expect the same reactions to a similar enviroment.


I truly believe this time the world and the US citizens will not take this manipulation sitting down. There will be many revolts. It will not be an escalation into WWIII, as much as a revolution.

The World Wide Revolutionary War.

JMO

another world wide hippie revolution?

maybe...

The shifting of loyalties could take place during the present war, but it might be reserved for a later date. How it will come about, only time will tell. Much ANTICIPATED...WWIII will be.

I freaked out for Y2K and when that failed to materialize, I stopped the doom expectation.

Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia