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Yet another thread discussing the habit of eating meat

 
gus
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01/26/2007 03:51 AM
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Yet another thread discussing the habit of eating meat
I just watched the Meet your Meat movie and got a little involved with it (ok ok i WEPT). I'm willing to present you with some of my ideas regarding the value of meat as food.

One of the arguments of the meat-industry-supporter is generally that eating meat is what naturally goes on in nature and so we can 'afford' to have animals being treated cruelly by the meat industry.

Note that I'm pointing out only those who support the processes used by the meat and dairy products industry.
However, this also applies to the meat-eaters alone, who are very sure that eating meat, in the actual conditions, is very normal. Or those who are simply removed from the subject due to their lack of energy to question anything.


Well I object heavily against eating meat in the actual condition of society. I have no problem with meat itself as food. But some people have lost the real meaning of survival. They think that since they are part of an organized society, they can justify their meat-eating habits with the 'survival of the fittest' concept applied to society as a whole, but they forget that their individual realities are very far from a state of survival. Society is their provider, so what is good for society is good for them.

Well, maybe there is some need for 'survival' going on in this mess known as the meat industry. But I think people are mixing up two very different aspects. Eating meat coming from a degradative and artificial process is very different from eating meat coming from a natural process.

First of all, in nature there is struggle. Real struggle for survival. Where there is struggle, there is honour of being able to withstand challenges. An animal that is part of a herd, cares a lot for the other members and therefore will sacrifice his life in order to assist with the fleeing of the group upon danger. Also, the member that loses his life is almost always the oldest or the most unfit in the group.

So, when men had to hunt for survival, the hunted herd of animals knew that it was a fair necessity of men to eat, and so they would instinctively let one of their sick or old members behind. The sick member also knew this and would proudly sacrifice himself for his group's benefit, and since he was the weakest, he knew he deserved to die. The men knew it was a sacrifice by the part of the animal and would honour the meat for days long. Also, men had to expend their bodies to get food*.

When you exercise, adrenaline builds up in the blood and can make you withstand higher levels of pain. The prey becomes so tired of running from the hunter that the adrenaline will automatically disable most of the bodily sensations in order to prepare the prey for death. The animal dies quickly and swiftly. The hunter loses no time because he is also full of adrenaline.

Note that it all makes sense and seems "natural", because all of it is inside a context of honour, necessity and trust. But people are using this to justify their meat-eating habits inside our society. Does this makes sense? Of course not. This is hypocrisy.
Omega

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01/26/2007 03:53 AM
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Re: Yet another thread discussing the habit of eating meat
Get on the bus gus. Make a new plan Stan. You don't need to be coy Roy.
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01/26/2007 03:59 AM
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So, when men had to hunt for survival, the hunted herd of animals knew that it was a fair necessity of men to eat, and so they would instinctively let one of their sick or old members behind. The sick member also knew this and would proudly sacrifice himself for his group's benefit, and since he was the weakest, he knew he deserved to die. The men knew it was a sacrifice by the part of the animal and would honour the meat for days long. Also, men had to expend their bodies to get food*.

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I agree with nearly all you have sauid apart from the passage above ...it may well come under as a separate issue but I have to take issue with the idea of "survival of the fittest"...this whole idea is bogus as men who hunt do not choose or select an unfit asnimal for slaughter...they simply find a target and hope they are skillful enough to hit it...similarly with animals,they will kill anything that accomplishes the aim,i.e...to find food.
gus (OP)
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01/26/2007 04:05 AM
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i agree! but you must also consider that there is a tendency of the prey, if ever caught, ending up as one of the weakest in the group. although, yes, man seeks the buff/stronger ones :{ not sure about lions and wolfs though.


thanks for the tip omega.
gus (OP)
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01/26/2007 04:08 AM
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Re: Yet another thread discussing the habit of eating meat
i mean, man seeks any available target..not necessarily the stronger ones.





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