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Which Artificial Sweetener is the least lethal?

 
Greg_B.
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Which Artificial Sweetener is the least lethal?
I'd like to know. Everyone is quick to point out how carcinogenic they all are, or how deadly...but which one is the least dangerous?

My triglycerides are high and I'm told I need to cut out sugar. I am thinking about drinking Coke Zero, which tasted fairly decent when I tried it.
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Re: Which Artificial Sweetener is the least lethal?
Stevia, but it's not artificial, it's natural, which is also why it is expensive, can't be patented (ie no income for major chemical manufacturers) and not approved by the FDA as a sweetner.
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Re: Which Artificial Sweetener is the least lethal?
all sweeteners are artificial sweeteners, including sugar, they are all bad, learn to enjoy food that isnt covered in sweet stuff. drink water
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Re: Which Artificial Sweetener is the least lethal?
Aspartame tastes OK and is a known carcinogen. I hear splenda is less toxic, but it does not taste like sugar. More of a fucked up acidic chemical flavor that isn't even sweet. Then again, I know some people who say it tastes just like the real thing and put it in everything so maybe my sense of taste is just weird.

This has some useful info:

[link to www.holisticmed.com]
Rarrgh!
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Re: Which Artificial Sweetener is the least lethal?
Organic honey.
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Re: Which Artificial Sweetener is the least lethal?
Isn't there also one called Agave that you can get at the health food store? It doesn't raise the sugar level, either. It's all natural.
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Re: Which Artificial Sweetener is the least lethal?
Here it is. Agave. Check your health food store, too.

[link to www.rawagave.com]
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Re: Which Artificial Sweetener is the least lethal?
Stevia, but it's not artificial, it's natural, which is also why it is expensive, can't be patented (ie no income for major chemical manufacturers) and not approved by the FDA as a sweetner.
 Quoting: MLM Dude


Erythritol is another good tasting natural sugar substitute.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


You can find if for about $7 a pound on the net.

70% as sweet as sucrose, can cook with it, etc. Has the same texture/feel of sugar.
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Re: Which Artificial Sweetener is the least lethal?
The only sweetener I ever use is honey and only in my tea once in a great while. I agree with the above poster. Why the heck do you need a sweetener? Use unsweetened fruit juices and honey and start drinking water and other stuff. If you are drinking soda of any kind then I wouldn't even worry about the diabetes. You're killing yourself already anyhow.
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Re: Which Artificial Sweetener is the least lethal?
Believe it or not, Saccharin is by far the safest sugar substitute available.

Don Rumsfeld LITERALLY falsified research and used his connections in government and business to give Saccharin a bad reputation in order to get HIS product, Aspartame, accepted!

It was absolute fraud and a lie that Saccharin was tagged with the "causes cancer" label. It was Rumsfeld lying and cheating years before he added murder and war profiteering to his resume.

Aspartame is PURE POISON, and Splenda is almost as bad.

There are thousands of independent and USDA studies on Saccharin, it is the most thoroughly researched sugar substitute by a very large margin.

Despite the bad reputation, Saccharin (NutraSweet) is safe; and is the ONLY sugar substitute that has never shown to have any ill effects on consumers.

Believe it or not, it is true.
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Re: Which Artificial Sweetener is the least lethal?
Okay, let me rephrase the question for all the health food store people and the just drink water crowd:

Which artificial sweetener is the least harmful?

I do not want to drink water.
I do not want to stir in my own powder/liquid/stuff.
I DO want to crack open a bottle and pour it down throat

The very nature of the inquiry implies that I already understand that it's all bad, so please don't repeat that mantra here as if it were a direct answer to my direct question. Go back to the tree and continue to hug it.

Let me put it this way:

Splenda, Nutri-Sweet, Sweet N Low or just die from the sugar already?

Thank you.

Please drive thru.
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Re: Which Artificial Sweetener is the least lethal?
Your a tool. Just use aspertame. Lots of it.
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Re: Which Artificial Sweetener is the least lethal?
Stevia, but it's not artificial, it's natural, which is also why it is expensive, can't be patented (ie no income for major chemical manufacturers) and not approved by the FDA as a sweetner.
 Quoting: MLM Dude


Stevia has been proven to be TOXIC in larger doses.

If it was approved by the FDA it might be added to sweeten beverages and foods; at this level of ingestion it would be a major health hazard.
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Re: Which Artificial Sweetener is the least lethal?
AC1287, the previous message was not directed at you, you clearly understood the question and answered accordingly. Thanks!

I thought that nutri-sweet *wasn't* sacchrine, and that sacchrine was Sweet N Low?
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Re: Which Artificial Sweetener is the least lethal?
AC1287, the previous message was not directed at you, you clearly understood the question and answered accordingly. Thanks!

I thought that nutri-sweet *wasn't* sacchrine, and that sacchrine was Sweet N Low?
 Quoting: Greg_B.


Oops, my bad. You are correct, Aspartame is Nutri-Sweet and Saccharin is Sweet N Low.

I get angry every time I think about this case and I got confused.

Do some Google research on Aspartame and D. Rumsfeld, it is the biggest FDA fraud ever perpetrated against the American public.

Aspartame is a proven neuro-toxin and is deadly. Rumsfeld doesn't care, there is money to be made...

kinda like Iraq
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Re: Which Artificial Sweetener is the least lethal?
Okay, let me rephrase the question for all the health food store people and the just drink water crowd:

Which artificial sweetener is the least harmful?

I do not want to drink water.
I do not want to stir in my own powder/liquid/stuff.
I DO want to crack open a bottle and pour it down throat

The very nature of the inquiry implies that I already understand that it's all bad, so please don't repeat that mantra here as if it were a direct answer to my direct question. Go back to the tree and continue to hug it.

Let me put it this way:

Splenda, Nutri-Sweet, Sweet N Low or just die from the sugar already?

Thank you.

Please drive thru.
 Quoting: Greg_B.


Since this is all opinion anyway with the psuedoscience crowd, I'll say sucralose.

All of these sugar substitutes have been tested to death (literally) on thousands of unfortunate rodents. No cancer.


Lack of DNA-damaging activity of five non-nutritive sweeteners in the rat hepatocyte/DNA repair assay.
Food Chem Toxicol. 2000 Apr;38(4):335-8

"The non-nutritive sweeteners acesulfame-K, aspartame, cyclamate, saccharin and sucralose were tested for DNA damaging activity in the rat hepatocyte/DNA repair assay. Using hepatocytes from F344 and Sprague-Dawley male rats, all were inactive despite strong responses for the positive control, 2-aminofluorene."

heres another one (I'm sure you're bored to tears at this point):

Neurotoxicity studies on sucralose and its hydrolysis products with special reference to histopathologic and ultrastructural changes.

Food Chem Toxicol. 2000;38 Suppl 2:S7-17

"Comparative neuropathological studies of 1,6-dichloro-1, 6-dideoxy-beta-D-fructofuranosyl-4-chloro-4-deoxy-alpha-D-gal​actopyra noside (sucralose), an equimolar mixture of 1,6-dichloro-1, 6-dideoxyfructose (1,6-DCF) and 4-chloro-4-deoxygalactose (4-CG), the hydrolysis products of sucralose, and 6-chloro-6-deoxyglucose (6-CG) were conducted in male and female mice and male marmoset monkeys, focusing on morphological changes in the central nervous system. 6-Chloro-6-deoxyglucose, previously reported to produce neurotoxic effects, served as the positive control and was administered by gavage at a daily dose of 500mg/kg. Sucralose and the sucralose hydrolysis products (sucralose-HP) were similarly administered to mice and marmosets at doses of up to 1000mg/kg for 21 and 28 days, respectively. No changes were detected in the central nervous system by light or electron microscopy in either of the species that received sucralose or its hydrolysis products. 6-Chloro-6-deoxyglucose, in contrast, induced symmetrical lesions in the deep nuclei of the cerebellum, brain stem and spinal cord with definitive neurological signs of CNS involvement."



However, there are reports of Sucralose causing/exacerbating migranes.
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Re: Which Artificial Sweetener is the least lethal?
Since this is all opinion anyway with the psuedoscience crowd, I'll say sucralose.

All of these sugar substitutes have been tested to death (literally) on thousands of unfortunate rodents. No cancer.
 Quoting: ChecksInTheMail 185033


You could not be more wrong.

[link to www.truthaboutsplenda.com]

With the exception of Saccharin and Aspartame*, all other sugar substitutes have had inadequate or downright minimal research.

*hundreds of research studies on the effects of Aspartame have been suppressed and are not available to the public. All showed serious health effects... Aspartame was once listed on the Dept. of Defense list of CHEMICAL WARFARE AGENTS for it effects on the central nervous system.

This action and the FDA approval of Aspartame was one of the first orders of business of the Reagan administration and the second Rumsfeld-Cheney assault on Americans.
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Re: Which Artificial Sweetener is the least lethal?
Okay, let me rephrase the question for all the health food store people and the just drink water crowd:

Which artificial sweetener is the least harmful?

I do not want to drink water.
I do not want to stir in my own powder/liquid/stuff.
I DO want to crack open a bottle and pour it down throat

The very nature of the inquiry implies that I already understand that it's all bad, so please don't repeat that mantra here as if it were a direct answer to my direct question. Go back to the tree and continue to hug it.

Let me put it this way:

Splenda, Nutri-Sweet, Sweet N Low or just die from the sugar already?

Thank you.

Please drive thru.
 Quoting: Greg_B.



in that case,table sugar is the least lethal artificial sweetener of the choices provided.

enjoy
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Re: Which Artificial Sweetener is the least lethal?
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lmao
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my doc told me to quit smoking the pot, he says its bad for me,im looking for a replacement fix,
whats better for me?
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 154126


Without question, the least lethal is LSD.

As for sugar substitute, use Xylitol (look it up).
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Go ahead and fill your boots with aspartame or whatever you want, bulk up your ass on diet coke.

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Re: Which Artificial Sweetener is the least lethal?
Let me put it this way:

Splenda, Nutri-Sweet, Sweet N Low or just die from the sugar already?
 Quoting: Greg_B.


might as well just just drink/eat what you want. just watch -how- much of it you drink/eat.

forget all this alternative sugar stuff IMHO.
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Re: Which Artificial Sweetener is the least lethal?
Be a man and drop the sweetenners completely.
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why don't those who have high glycemic index or whatever eat protien bars and stuff like that? i bought this box of xyience bars the other day. There is not much taste but eat beats nothing or crappy food.
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Re: Which Artificial Sweetener is the least lethal?
Fructose is the healthiest. [link to en.wikipedia.org]

But I don't know if that counts as artificial.
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Re: Which Artificial Sweetener is the least lethal?
187989

Fructose consumption is what's ending the party.

It's the non-stop consumption of fructose in soft drinks that's leading me to high cholesterol and tryglcerides which comes from problems developing in the liver that are normally associated with alcoholics (I don't drink.)
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Re: Which Artificial Sweetener is the least lethal?
From the research I have done, Splenda is the safest of the sweetners - next to saccahrin (being the safest). But Sacarhin tasted bitter to me.

So I use Splenda.
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I cut my sugar Coke habit by at least 75% drinking that new lemon water with splenda. I love it.

Love it.

Desani Lemon water, try it
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Re: Which Artificial Sweetener is the least lethal?
So, you care enough to drink the least toxic, but not enough to cut out the toxicity altogether?

To get healthy and stay healthy at this point in your life, I suggest a complete detoxing/cleansing for starters... Your physical condition is probably so toxic that you are too insane to make up your mind at this point. Cleanse first and call us in a couple of weeks.
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