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Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?

 
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Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
Thank you for your interest.

This is a plan to make Obama believe he doesn't need to pardon Hillary. If Obama falls for this and doesn't pardon the old cunt she will be open for charges after Jan 20 when Trump takes office.Simple.
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
I don't think there's such a thing as a pre-pardon for crimes that someone hasn't been convicted of yet.
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
Its going to look so sweet when Obama pardons here anyway just to be sure
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
I don't think there's such a thing as a pre-pardon for crimes that someone hasn't been convicted of yet.
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There is. She can be pardoned even if not convicted
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
I don't think there's such a thing as a pre-pardon for crimes that someone hasn't been convicted of yet.
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But you can count on Obama being the first to do this
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
I don't think there's such a thing as a pre-pardon for crimes that someone hasn't been convicted of yet.
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But you can count on Obama being the first to do this
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President Nixon was pardoned and was never convicted of anything...if he hadn't been pardoned he would have faced charges.Fact, look it up.
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
Regardless of what he does/doesn't do...I believe that power should be rescinded completely. That's putting the Judicial branch into the hands of the Executive branch. It alters the balance of powers, which were created just to prevent such things!
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
I don't think there's such a thing as a pre-pardon for crimes that someone hasn't been convicted of yet.
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Then Obama will make an executive order giving him the ability to pre-pardon someone at a later date.

Or give him the ability to pardon after leaving office.
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
Thank you for your interest.

This is a plan to make Obama believe he doesn't need to pardon Hillary. If Obama falls for this and doesn't pardon the old cunt she will be open for charges after Jan 20 when Trump takes office.Simple.
 Quoting: Little Birdie 21249930


I do believe this is what's happening, but Obozo won't fall for it.

I can't stand the jerk, but he's not that stupid.

Those emails and classified information regarding Benghazi lead to him. That's why there has been a huge coverup to begin with. He will pardon her, not because he gives a flying fuck about her or the U.S., but because he doesn't want the investigation and discovery to move forward. CYA.

Unfortunately, there's no point in President Trump pursuing this. At this point, it's far more important to focus on her crimes at the foundation. A Presidential Pardon doesn't cover State charges. I expect New York's Bharara to move forward with this case soon after the inauguration.
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
I don't think there's such a thing as a pre-pardon for crimes that someone hasn't been convicted of yet.
 Quoting: skittle vortex


There is. She can be pardoned even if not convicted
 Quoting: Little Birdie 21249930


She is not even charged.

They might have to state what she is guilty-of in order to pardon her.

They are fishing to see what our future President knows.

The sweet part will come when they start to tell us not to believe this-that-or-the-other before the strike comes.

It's like waiting for Christmas!
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
I don't think there's such a thing as a pre-pardon for crimes that someone hasn't been convicted of yet.
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Sadly there is. But this might be Trump's plan all along. Trick Odumbo into not pardoning the Clinton's, then game on.
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
But a pardon will ruin her for the rest of her life. She would in effect be DONE in government or anywhere else for that matter.
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
I don't think there's such a thing as a pre-pardon for crimes that someone hasn't been convicted of yet.
 Quoting: skittle vortex


There is. She can be pardoned even if not convicted
 Quoting: Little Birdie 21249930


She is not even charged.

They might have to state what she is guilty-of in order to pardon her.

They are fishing to see what our future President knows.

The sweet part will come when they start to tell us not to believe this-that-or-the-other before the strike comes.

It's like waiting for Christmas!
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Something needs to happen. After researching what the Clintons did to haiti it's obvious that this simply shouldn't just "go away". They need to be in prison.... Hillary, Bill and Chelsea.
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
But a pardon will ruin her for the rest of her life. She would in effect be DONE in government or anywhere else for that matter.
 Quoting: stellanexus


She's done either way. The foundation is finished.

It's his own ass he would be covering.
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
I think Trump knows that the NYPD will nail the Clintons after Jan 20 on child sex charges. Why should he waste time on them?
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
I think Trump knows that the NYPD will nail the Clintons after Jan 20 on child sex charges. Why should he waste time on them?
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That's if it's true. There's no solid proof of that, just rumors.
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
Regardless of what he does/doesn't do...I believe that power should be rescinded completely. That's putting the Judicial branch into the hands of the Executive branch. It alters the balance of powers, which were created just to prevent such things!
 Quoting: CRose8


I believe the president should retain the right -- but only AFTER people have been through a trial and have been found guilty.

Not for people who simply plead guilty -- only those who follow the process, so that all the evidence is public.

We have a right to know the truth.
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
Thank you for your interest.

This is a plan to make Obama believe he doesn't need to pardon Hillary. If Obama falls for this and doesn't pardon the old cunt she will be open for charges after Jan 20 when Trump takes office.Simple.
 Quoting: Little Birdie 21249930


Maybe, I kinda think that President Trump is just using a play on words, you know by saying I wont prosecute, But he is not saying that the FBI wont.

I hope you right, I want ALL of them to go down and NEVER come up for air.
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
I think she already IS done. Trying to re-invigorate any place in government would be like Bill Cosby making a come-back.

But, still, investigations by the FBI into the Clinton Foundation and by the NYPD looking into the pedophile ring will hopefully continue. If they don't, we will know for sure that the Deep State continues to rule. They will fight back with some sort of Shock & Awe.
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
But a pardon will ruin her for the rest of her life. She would in effect be DONE in government or anywhere else for that matter.
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Have you seen pictures of her?
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
I don't think there's such a thing as a pre-pardon for crimes that someone hasn't been convicted of yet.
 Quoting: skittle vortex


There is. She can be pardoned even if not convicted
 Quoting: Little Birdie 21249930


True. But everyone knows there's no love lost between the Clintons and the Obama's. In fact, they pretty much hate one another. So, he might let her fry just out of spite, because that's how he rolls
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
SHE CAN ONLY BE PARDONED FOR DEEDS IN THE PAST.
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
SHE CAN ONLY BE PARDONED FOR DEEDS IN THE PAST.
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Opposed to future crimes, are you serious?
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
Regardless of what he does/doesn't do...I believe that power should be rescinded completely. That's putting the Judicial branch into the hands of the Executive branch. It alters the balance of powers, which were created just to prevent such things!
 Quoting: CRose8


I believe the president should retain the right -- but only AFTER people have been through a trial and have been found guilty.

Not for people who simply plead guilty -- only those who follow the process, so that all the evidence is public.

We have a right to know the truth.
 Quoting: The Deporable Redneck Carnac


I agree.

As it stands now, a president can pardon anyone on Federal charges, or even the possibility of future charges. I really wish people would stop perpetuating the rumor that a person needs to at least be indicted for a pardon. That's simply not true.

Until now, Executive Privilege and the power to pardon before trial has been accepted mainly on the honor system - believing a president wouldn't actively attempt to use these privileges for personal gain. However, it invites corruption and coverups as Obozo and the Clintons have shown very clearly. The Bush clan too.

This needs to be addressed. The people need far more transparency into the Executive Office.
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
President Nixon was pardoned and was never convicted of anything...if he hadn't been pardoned he would have faced charges.Fact, look it up.
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
But a pardon will ruin her for the rest of her life. She would in effect be DONE in government or anywhere else for that matter.
 Quoting: stellanexus


She's done either way. The foundation is finished.

It's his own ass he would be covering.
 Quoting: Zen & Zi


Notice Trump leaked he didn't want to have her charged.

Gives him some latitude to bring charges later, especially if Pizzagate discovers the family jewels and it is widely known.

He'll respond to public outrage, unlike all his predecessors.
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
regardless of how a pardon works, nobody should be pardoned without being convicted of a crime...that's bullshit
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
But a pardon will ruin her for the rest of her life. She would in effect be DONE in government or anywhere else for that matter.
 Quoting: stellanexus


She's done either way. The foundation is finished.

It's his own ass he would be covering.
 Quoting: Zen & Zi


Notice Trump leaked he didn't want to have her charged.

Gives him some latitude to bring charges later, especially if Pizzagate discovers the family jewels and it is widely known.

He'll respond to public outrage, unlike all his predecessors.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62897139


Yes, that's true.

Trump was talking about the emails and classified documents on the server.

He wasn't talking about the rest of her crimes and others involved.

But like I said, Obozo can't pardon State charges. New York, along with four other States, is currently investigating the foundation.

It's the same as the government taking down Capone over a tax issue. It's not the main crime, but it sent him to prison for a very long time.
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
I don't think there's such a thing as a pre-pardon for crimes that someone hasn't been convicted of yet.
 Quoting: skittle vortex


There is. She can be pardoned even if not convicted
 Quoting: Little Birdie 21249930



Wrong. Obama is on video stating that he cannot pardon someone until they have been prosecuted and convicted for that crime.
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
So far, his reasoning is not to create more divide in the nation.

Weighing the pros/cons.

Not prosecuting is to help bring the estranged democrats back into the mix.

He does not want to do anything that will further divide the Nation. His interests are in the American People first. If not prosecuting her will benefit the Nation, I can understand his perspective.

But if it divides the Nation, then he must prosecute.


This is where I believe his heart is at.
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Re: Psssst...Wanna know why it leaked Trump won't Pursue Charges Against Hillary?
I don't think there's such a thing as a pre-pardon for crimes that someone hasn't been convicted of yet.
 Quoting: skittle vortex


There is. She can be pardoned even if not convicted
 Quoting: Little Birdie 21249930



Wrong. Obama is on video stating that he cannot pardon someone until they have been prosecuted and convicted for that crime.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66689400


Well, legally no but, if Obama made it a public statement, it would be harder to find a prosecutor that will pursue the case. As well as clouding the trial with doubt.

It may not be perfect, but him doing so would still cause issues.

If Trump keeps this off the radar until in office......who knows.

I think we owe it to him to wait until he is sworn in.





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