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How do we deal with the 11million so-called non-criminal illegal aliens in U.S.?

 
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What I envision is a total law enforcement effort. Day one they are arrested and processed for deportation. Almost every town has a rail line or nearby airport. They are sent back home period. You could easily do a couple hundred thousand a day nation wide. Anyone deported goes to the end of the line. Anyone caught over staying a visa is banned from entry again.
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Reality is that the 11 million non-criminal aliens are being exploited by businesses across the nation.

Capitalism has made jobs available to these aliens at our expense.

If you want to rip the underbelly of the US economy you deport these 11 million illegals.
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Speaking as a business person, there have always been those businesses who avoided paying payroll taxes, and hired under the table employees. They always sniveled that they could not operate otherwise. Yet honest businessmen survived, they just did not rake in illegal profits.

It's the same now. The underbelly of American business will not be ripped out, not at all. Businesses will either pay for legal American citizens or residents and take lower profits, or they will go out of business.

That sounds harsh, but if our country is ever to operate with a stable economic base, one of the things that will need to happen is that all businesses are on an equal footing, and some are not operating with an illegal advantage.

The other half of the illegal alien problem is illegal employment. The aliens are not the only criminals.

If punitive payroll taxes and costly over-regulation are pushed back, businesses will have more gross income to offset the loss of the cheap labor.
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Exactly and they go after the businesses that hire legal Americans to bring their companies down and ship them out.
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Create stronger restrictions on work visas.
Make it a felony to employ anyone without a visa / citizenship. Including huge fines and a mandatory prison sentence. Make the laws very clear on who and how they will be charged.

When putting the law in place, make sure there's a time period before the changes take effect... Like 6 months. This will allow existing illegals to self deport.

This same time frame should also include the end of all public assistance benefits to those illegal immigrants like welfare, section 8, and food stamps.
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No such thing as an "non-criminal illegal alien".
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Constitution doesn't allow for taxation without representation.

If they paid taxes they are entitled to a congressional hearing or due process and possible citizenship.

They should have never been taxed and allowed to work.
 Quoting: TURDCOBAIN-MIA


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Since when did taxation without representation have anything to do with congressional hearings, due process or citizenship?

If they paid taxes that just means that they are paying for the services they have received while resident here, just the same as Americans citizens.

If they are allowed to return to their home countries without being punished or fined they can count that as being paid for by their taxes.
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I've thought about this a lot. Our street has been transformed into a "little Mexico". They haven't really assimilated, i.e., speak very little English (especially the wives), and have little inclination to learn the language. I've wondered how many benefits they get, sucking off the Texas taxpayers for FREE medical care, food stamps, Social Security when they haven't attained the necessary qualifications, etc. Kids go to school, so how about school lunches to go along with everything else! Texas provides well for them.

If I could move, I would, so it's better they go. They are living off the tit of the taxpayer anyway, and taking our jobs. They don't like us to boot, and should just go home to Mexico where they belong, taking their anchor babies with them.
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Deport each and every one.

We either have a country or we don't.
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This is what I believe. You either want Open Borders......or you don't.

I don't. I love my country and it is my belief that my country is worth any and all sacrifice. If you truly want to become a AMERICAN you will follow the rules to become a citizen. If you only wish to work here, not pay taxes, take advantage of our schools, hospitals, etc..............you will sneak across our borders and protest. and vote for Clinton!
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I've thought about this a lot. Our street has been transformed into a "little Mexico". They haven't really assimilated, i.e., speak very little English (especially the wives), and have little inclination to learn the language. I've wondered how many benefits they get, sucking off the Texas taxpayers for FREE medical care, food stamps, Social Security when they haven't attained the necessary qualifications, etc. Kids go to school, so how about school lunches to go along with everything else! Texas provides well for them.

If I could move, I would, so it's better they go. They are living off the tit of the taxpayer anyway, and taking our jobs. They don't like us to boot, and should just go home to Mexico where they belong, taking their anchor babies with them.
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Amen.
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I've thought about this a lot. Our street has been transformed into a "little Mexico". They haven't really assimilated, i.e., speak very little English (especially the wives), and have little inclination to learn the language. I've wondered how many benefits they get, sucking off the Texas taxpayers for FREE medical care, food stamps, Social Security when they haven't attained the necessary qualifications, etc. Kids go to school, so how about school lunches to go along with everything else! Texas provides well for them.

If I could move, I would, so it's better they go. They are living off the tit of the taxpayer anyway, and taking our jobs. They don't like us to boot, and should just go home to Mexico where they belong, taking their anchor babies with them.
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clappan Those of us stuck in border states know how horrible it is.
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That being said they need to do it slowly. We deport all the skilled Mexicans at once and the unskilled Americans need time to relearn those trades.
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BAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

That's too funny. These guys build SHIT.
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I've thought about this a lot. Our street has been transformed into a "little Mexico". They haven't really assimilated, i.e., speak very little English (especially the wives), and have little inclination to learn the language. I've wondered how many benefits they get, sucking off the Texas taxpayers for FREE medical care, food stamps, Social Security when they haven't attained the necessary qualifications, etc. Kids go to school, so how about school lunches to go along with everything else! Texas provides well for them.

If I could move, I would, so it's better they go. They are living off the tit of the taxpayer anyway, and taking our jobs. They don't like us to boot, and should just go home to Mexico where they belong, taking their anchor babies with them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59521993


where in Texas?

must be up North. Yep it isn’t good up there.

A few years ago I was in DFW working in Grand Prairie. The students had a walkout marching for some kind of illegal alien shit. The teachers from the school were actually leading the march. Paid for by tax payer dollars. I was stunned.

Cliquish and not becoming part of America. I don’t even know what most of them do.

Construction? Umm no...

Example, back when I was in DFW. I moved into a new and partially completed apartment complex. All the cars license plates of the workers framing, siding and finishing the interiors were from various Mexico States like Vera Cruz and, deep into Mexico.

I cant think that the illegals do anything that we can get from the 94 million that aren’t employed
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That being said they need to do it slowly. We deport all the skilled Mexicans at once and the unskilled Americans need time to relearn those trades.
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BAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

That's too funny. These guys build SHIT.
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They need a lead, I know these guys. They cut corners if you cant see it.

Now I know Americans of Mexican ancestry that OWN licensed trade companies (HVAC, Electrical, plumbing) and they make sure their illegals do the job right because they want more business.
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Take away all their free stuff. Fine or jail anyone who hires the. They will report themselves.
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Stop them from transferring money out of the country.
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Stop them from transferring money out of the country.
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Trump's ace in the hole. 5a
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with Severe Stiff Penalties Jail Time etc for anyone caught processing any illegal money out-of-the-country transfers !

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Buy them a one-way bus ticket offering to reimburse them any social security or other taxes they paid when they get off the bus on the
other side of the border. 5a

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Sounds fair. I know some hardworking illegals who deserve a chance but the ones whob are here just to mooch off the taxpayers need to go.
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Re: How do we deal with the 11million so-called non-criminal illegal aliens in U.S.?
Three pronged strategy:

1)Employ illegals, and the place of employment is seized.

If a farmer hires illegal's, seize the farm. A factory, dock, warehouse, restaurant or grocery store employs illegals?Seize the business, and sell it to companies/individual's, who will obey employment law. Even a private home owner, that hires an illegal to mow their lawn, should also face asset seizure of the home, as it was the "place of employment", of the illegal.

If they cannot find or maintain employment in America, they will not seek to stay here.

2) Property owned, rented or leased by illegals is seized.

Seize all properties in America, owned by illegal immigrants. Then, begin to seize properties rented or leased by illegals. Be it a car rental/lease, or a housing/domicile rent/lease.

If they cannot own their own housing and transportation, and cannot rent or lease housing or transportation, then they will not stay in America.

3) A bit more controversial:

If anyone sells food, clothing or engages in commerce of any sort, seize affected property.

If a gas station, grocery store, clothing or even a hardware store, sells to an illegal, then seize the place of commerce. If a home owner, is having a yard sale, and an illegal purchases a 5 cent CD, seize the homeowners property.

If no one will engage them in any form of commerce, they will not come or stay in America.


Anything short of those three implementations, will not solve the problem.
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Re: How do we deal with the 11million so-called non-criminal illegal aliens in U.S.?

Who's going to cut your lawn and work the fields?
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Im so fucking sick of this Main Stream News Repeated lie that "Mexicans are such hard workers" or "Mexicans only do jobs that Americans don't want"

If Mexicans are such hard workers why dont they stay in Mexico and Work Hard to fix Mexico for future generations?

How come if Mexicans are all greatly skilled Carpenters , Why dont they at least have some Nice quality Houses in Mexico instead of living in Tin shacks??

How come they haven't Made Mexico a Utopia that Americans would be wanting to Cross the border illegally to live there?

I'll tell ya why , Because the whole "Mexicans are hard workers" bit is a lie spread by MSM Fake news outlets like CNN -

Mexicans Lie, Cheat, and Steal and not much else.
Plus the ones who come here illegally or on work visas are a drain on all of us and are mostly drug users and gang bangers. There is no such thing as a Hard working illegal if they were Hard workers they would have done the Hard Work to come here legally-

Tough shit they want a better life for their family - So do i but you don't see me out breaking laws robbing banks to try and get it do you?

As a matter of Fact MY life would be better tomorrow and so would yours if these leeches would leave our country today -
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horse racing circuit is littered with illegal hobos,vagabons,bums,indigents,homeless,crackheads,theives,hoo​kers,drugs n crinimals on the run,
we all gonna die, lets move on
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horse racing circuit is littered with illegal hobos,vagabons,bums,indigents,homeless,crackheads,theives,hoo​kers,drugs n crinimals on the run,
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start with that
we all gonna die, lets move on
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If we start arresting people who knowingly hire illegal immigrants, the problem will solve itself within 6 months as the immigrants will self-deport.
 Quoting: Deplorable Factual Error


Yes. Treat illegal immigration the same as illegal drugs. If you were selling meth from your home or business you would lose everything and go to prison for a very long time. Make the laws the same if you hire or use illegal immigrants. You have them in your business then law enforcement takes your business and bank accounts and imprisons you. Most illegals would start to leave if you passed these laws and enforced them. The ones that don't get arrested and put in work camps and build iPhones for free. Fuck these assholes. THEY ARE HERE ILLEGALLY!!!!!

Don't let the MSM tell you that millions of criminals who are here ILLEGALLY cannot be rounded up. Of course they say that because they want the illegals here. This is a new day, don't let anyone tell you we can't get rid of these parasites.
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Re: How do we deal with the 11million so-called non-criminal illegal aliens in U.S.?
How do we deal with the so-called 11 million non-criminal aliens currently estimated to be living in the US ?
Trump wants to deport the 2-3 million "criminal" element ASAP. What happens to the rest ?
Short of just deporting them outright, I haven't heard of a plan to settle the issue. It is well within the power of the Presidency to just have them all deported as fast as they can be rounded up. But we know that ain't gonna happen.
So here's a suggestion....
1) They have to register as illegal aliens with INS.
2) They have to pay a fine.
3) They pay back taxes if applicable.
4) They then apply for legal status (Resident)
5) They wait.
Stipulations of legal status are as follows:
They waive their right to ever become a full US citizen, highest status is legal resident. They can never have the right to vote. They waive all rights to Social Security or Welfare of any kind. After achieving legal status, if they are ever convicted of a felony, immediate deportation, with no chance of ever entering the US again.
I'm sure there are a few other stipulations we can come up with, but you get my drift.

What say you GLP ?
Sound fair ?
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Does not seem fair they get to stay. On what merits?
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Three pronged strategy:

1)Employ illegals, and the place of employment is seized.

If a farmer hires illegal's, seize the farm. A factory, dock, warehouse, restaurant or grocery store employs illegals?Seize the business, and sell it to companies/individual's, who will obey employment law. Even a private home owner, that hires an illegal to mow their lawn, should also face asset seizure of the home, as it was the "place of employment", of the illegal.

If they cannot find or maintain employment in America, they will not seek to stay here.

2) Property owned, rented or leased by illegals is seized.

Seize all properties in America, owned by illegal immigrants. Then, begin to seize properties rented or leased by illegals. Be it a car rental/lease, or a housing/domicile rent/lease.

If they cannot own their own housing and transportation, and cannot rent or lease housing or transportation, then they will not stay in America.

3) A bit more controversial:

If anyone sells food, clothing or engages in commerce of any sort, seize affected property.

If a gas station, grocery store, clothing or even a hardware store, sells to an illegal, then seize the place of commerce. If a home owner, is having a yard sale, and an illegal purchases a 5 cent CD, seize the homeowners property.

If no one will engage them in any form of commerce, they will not come or stay in America.


Anything short of those three implementations, will not solve the problem.
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What I envision is a total law enforcement effort. Day one they are arrested and processed for deportation. Almost every town has a rail line or nearby airport. They are sent back home period. You could easily do a couple hundred thousand a day nation wide. Anyone deported goes to the end of the line. Anyone caught over staying a visa is banned from entry again.
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That's how it works here in the islands. rockon
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What part of "illegal aliens" does not imply that a crime has not already been committed?
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Get criminals out.

Abolish income tax.

Tax new goods so 11 million illegal immigrants pay in as a well.
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Constitution doesn't allow for taxation without representation.

If they paid taxes they are entitled to a congressional hearing or due process and possible citizenship.

They should have never been taxed and allowed to work.
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ewwww-woman
Since when did taxation without representation have anything to do with congressional hearings, due process or citizenship?

If they paid taxes that just means that they are paying for the services they have received while resident here, just the same as Americans citizens.

If they are allowed to return to their home countries without being punished or fined they can count that as being paid for by their taxes.
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Good points all. rockon

Social Security being the exception, and those funds can act as severance pay when they voluntarily exit the country. And if working for cash under-the-table, fine the shat out of the employer and give it to the employee. Either way they'll have funds to help them get established in Mexico. A few hundred bucks goes along way down there and the flood of people that understand constitutional government will help change things for the better.
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How I would deal with them... Don't give them any benefits from government. No housing, no welfare, no food stamps, no tax refunds.... nothing. Let them fend for themselves. The second they break the law...deport them. If... after seven or eight years they show to be hard honest workers, attempt to learn English, and are good citizens then we will welcome them.
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How I would deal with them... Don't give them any benefits from government. No housing, no welfare, no food stamps, no tax refunds.... nothing. Let them fend for themselves. The second they break the law...deport them. If... after seven or eight years they show to be hard honest workers, attempt to learn English, and are good citizens then we will welcome them.
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That's amnesty.....there should absolutely be no Amnesty of any kind. They have already broken the law by jumping the border....back they must go. Weren't the illegals and their backer's riots at Trump rallies and post election enough to show what the future holds if these trespassers are allowed to stay? They and their rioting and Mexican flag waving need to go home, they clearly are incapable of peacefully and lawfully functioning in a modern democratic republic. They have already failed the citizen test by jumping the border.....and then there is that voting illegally thing...





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