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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72525421 United States 11/28/2016 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lovalee, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72984071 When Jesus Christ said "Tetelestai" It is finished." did he really mean except for until Joseph Smith gets finished taking peoples money to dig holes throughout western New York to find that buried treasure? Seriously not sure if this is your answer? But I do reject that the heavens are sealed. I pray expecting an answer. [link to www.lds.org (secure)] “And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” (Rev. 22:18–19.) A careful reading of the words makes it clear that the warning against adding to or taking away does not refer to the whole Bible or even to the New Testament, but to use John’s words, only to the words of “the book of this prophecy.” That is, the prophecy contained in the book of Revelation. This is substantiated by the fact that some of the books of the New Testament had not yet been written when John wrote the book of Revelation, and even those that had been written and were in existence at that time had not yet been gathered into one compilation. The collection of writings consisting of the sixty-six books we know as the Bible were brought together and compiled into one volume long after John wrote the prophetic book that has been placed at the end of the collection. It is clear, therefore, that the terrible judgments pronounced upon those who add to the book could not possibly apply to the whole of the Bible or even to the New Testament, but only to the book of Revelation. Hope that helps |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72984071 United States 11/28/2016 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | every single mormon i have ever met has been a good person. if any branch of christianity is legit im gonna say its theirs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73464702 Most Mormons are among the finest of people. Simple, decent, law-abiding, God-fearing respecting people that only mean to do well as they've been taught and told. True enough. That does not mean that Joseph Smith was not a con-man. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72984071 United States 11/28/2016 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lovalee, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72984071 When Jesus Christ said "Tetelestai" It is finished." did he really mean except for until Joseph Smith gets finished taking peoples money to dig holes throughout western New York to find that buried treasure? Seriously not sure if this is your answer? But I do reject that the heavens are sealed. I pray expecting an answer. [link to www.lds.org (secure)] “And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” (Rev. 22:18–19.) A careful reading of the words makes it clear that the warning against adding to or taking away does not refer to the whole Bible or even to the New Testament, but to use John’s words, only to the words of “the book of this prophecy.” That is, the prophecy contained in the book of Revelation. This is substantiated by the fact that some of the books of the New Testament had not yet been written when John wrote the book of Revelation, and even those that had been written and were in existence at that time had not yet been gathered into one compilation. The collection of writings consisting of the sixty-six books we know as the Bible were brought together and compiled into one volume long after John wrote the prophetic book that has been placed at the end of the collection. It is clear, therefore, that the terrible judgments pronounced upon those who add to the book could not possibly apply to the whole of the Bible or even to the New Testament, but only to the book of Revelation. Hope that helps When Jesus Christ died on the cross and rose again back to heaven, why do you say that was not enough, but that Joseph Smith was yet required? So what then, precisely, was so necessary that Joseph delivered? |
Monotheism (OP) User ID: 73065456 Sweden 11/28/2016 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why did Joseph Smith think christ is a proper name? Why did Jospeh Smith think lucifer is a proper name? The question isn't if he was a prophet, we already know he wasn't. Last Edited by Monotheism on 11/28/2016 07:10 PM |
cecropia User ID: 73410537 Canada 11/28/2016 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them." Isaiah 8:20 "For the Lord God shall not do anything, unless first he tell his secret, or his private plans to his servants, the prophets." Amos 3:7 WYC |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72984071 United States 11/28/2016 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why did Joseph Smith think christ is a proper name? Quoting: Monotheism Why did Jospeh Smith think lucifer is a proper name? The question isn't if he was a prophet, we already know he wasn't. A sufficiently indoctrinated Mormon cannot consider or allow that Joseph was ignorant, that Joseph did not know. Joseph matters more to them than the Truth... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72525421 United States 11/28/2016 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lovalee, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72984071 When Jesus Christ said "Tetelestai" It is finished." did he really mean except for until Joseph Smith gets finished taking peoples money to dig holes throughout western New York to find that buried treasure? Seriously not sure if this is your answer? But I do reject that the heavens are sealed. I pray expecting an answer. [link to www.lds.org (secure)] “And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” (Rev. 22:18–19.) A careful reading of the words makes it clear that the warning against adding to or taking away does not refer to the whole Bible or even to the New Testament, but to use John’s words, only to the words of “the book of this prophecy.” That is, the prophecy contained in the book of Revelation. This is substantiated by the fact that some of the books of the New Testament had not yet been written when John wrote the book of Revelation, and even those that had been written and were in existence at that time had not yet been gathered into one compilation. The collection of writings consisting of the sixty-six books we know as the Bible were brought together and compiled into one volume long after John wrote the prophetic book that has been placed at the end of the collection. It is clear, therefore, that the terrible judgments pronounced upon those who add to the book could not possibly apply to the whole of the Bible or even to the New Testament, but only to the book of Revelation. Hope that helps When Jesus Christ died on the cross and rose again back to heaven, why do you say that was not enough, but that Joseph Smith was yet required? So what then, precisely, was so necessary that Joseph delivered? Well The Book of Mormon quiets disputes and contentions about the Bible. That is how we can have free clergy. Everyone is on the same sheet of music. The gospel is plan and easy because of the Book of Mormon. I have more to say!! But I have to go do my Mom duties.. driving kids I will be back |
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cecropia User ID: 73410537 Canada 11/28/2016 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can only believe that the mere man Joseph Smith was in any way necessary at all for anything Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72984071 if you do not really know, understand or believe much of anything about Jesus Christ. "You cannot wake someone who is pretending to be asleep.." "For the Lord God shall not do anything, unless first he tell his secret, or his private plans to his servants, the prophets." Amos 3:7 WYC |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73508136 United States 11/28/2016 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've always heard that The Mormons are heavy into incest. Joe Smith condoned it along with polygamy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73259890 LOL What a faggish thing to say. Warren Jeffs is a modern example of this and is now in prison for it. Warren Jeffs Accused Of Incest By His Children - The Inquisitr |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50352277 United States 11/28/2016 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lovalee, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72984071 Do you think the Truth matters to The One True Father God Almighty? Yes Truth Matters beware of the Council of Nicea!! Why did Joseph Smith think christ is a proper name? Jesus Christ is a proper name. Your problem is that you don't understand English grammar. A proper name is a specific name of a specific person/place/thing. Jesus Christ is very specific, and you should know better. Look up the definition if you still don't understand. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67384070 Philippines 11/28/2016 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Joseph Smith became a master mason and obtained a carter from the Grand Lodge of Illinois to start his own lodge. He opened his lodge and turned it into a mason mill - everyone was in a hurry to masonified back then in order to find employment. The Grand Lodge of Illinois found out about it, rescinded his charter and declared all those who had become masons under Smith to be clandestine. Joseph smith went dark for a while and when he resurfaced he had a new religion that looked just like Freemasonry. the rest is history and the biggest load of horse shit since the Jehovah's Witlesses |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72525421 United States 11/28/2016 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lovalee, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72984071 When Jesus Christ said "Tetelestai" It is finished." did he really mean except for until Joseph Smith gets finished taking peoples money to dig holes throughout western New York to find that buried treasure? Seriously not sure if this is your answer? But I do reject that the heavens are sealed. I pray expecting an answer. [link to www.lds.org (secure)] “And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” (Rev. 22:18–19.) A careful reading of the words makes it clear that the warning against adding to or taking away does not refer to the whole Bible or even to the New Testament, but to use John’s words, only to the words of “the book of this prophecy.” That is, the prophecy contained in the book of Revelation. This is substantiated by the fact that some of the books of the New Testament had not yet been written when John wrote the book of Revelation, and even those that had been written and were in existence at that time had not yet been gathered into one compilation. The collection of writings consisting of the sixty-six books we know as the Bible were brought together and compiled into one volume long after John wrote the prophetic book that has been placed at the end of the collection. It is clear, therefore, that the terrible judgments pronounced upon those who add to the book could not possibly apply to the whole of the Bible or even to the New Testament, but only to the book of Revelation. Hope that helps When Jesus Christ died on the cross and rose again back to heaven, why do you say that was not enough, but that Joseph Smith was yet required? So what then, precisely, was so necessary that Joseph delivered? The Apostles took the gospel to the Jew AND the Gentile following the death of Christ so there was work to do after the atonement. But your question is more along the lines of what else needs to be done... It all has to do with Families and Geneology. Ever wonder why they spend so much time listing all those family member names in the Bible... [link to www.lds.org (secure)] Paul also, when writing to the Ephesian saints, told them that in the dispensation of the fulness of times, the Father was to gather in one all things in Christ, “both which are in heaven, and which are on earth.” (Eph. 1:10.) The disciples knew that the time of restitution was not to come until the time approached for the second coming of Jesus Christ, and it was to be in that day that Elijah was to bring back to the earth his priesthood and restore to men the power to seal on earth and in heaven, so that mankind might have means of escape from the destruction which awaited the wicked in that great and dreadful day of the Lord. I will post another scripture along these lines to help.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72525421 United States 11/28/2016 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Malachi 4:6 6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse. The work of the Saints has to have a restitution of the Priesthood power for the use of the sealing power to tie everyone, children and fathers together, before the Savior returns. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72525421 United States 11/28/2016 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why did Joseph Smith think christ is a proper name? Quoting: Monotheism Why did Jospeh Smith think lucifer is a proper name? The question isn't if he was a prophet, we already know he wasn't. I need to be careful I sincerely do not understand your struggle. When you are translating something into present day language you would use present day language. Does that help? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73064255 United States 11/28/2016 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | monotheism Quoting: Lovalee I think you might find this fun even if you only focus on the Bible although the Book of Mormon is loaded with this poetic organization of writing.. [link to www.lds.org (secure)] Chiasmus was first noticed by a few nineteenth century pioneer theologians in Germany and England, but the idea had to wait until the 1930s before it found an ardent exponent, Nils Lund, who was able to lay the principle before the eyes of the world in a convincing way. But even at that, it was not until the decade of the 1960s, after much more had been learned about the philology of early Semitic languages, that chiasmus was properly understood and unequivocally acknowledged. Today, articles on the subject are quite common. What is it that has drawn this attention? To see this for ourselves, we had best begin with an example of chiasmus, and a convenient one is to be found in Psalms 3:7–8 ..... the Book of Mormon itself, we find that it more than fulfills our expectations. It contains chiasms of all sorts and sizes. Some are long, some are short; some are poetical, some are practical; some are simple, some are elaborate. They all are artistic and meaningful. More often than not, the prophets of the Book of Mormon use chiasmus as a device through which they can focus our attention upon the central idea of their message. This is done by placing the central idea at the turning point of the chiasm. Significantly enough, the central idea of the majority of chiastic passages in the Book of Mormon deals with the divinity of Jesus Christ and man’s direct relationship to him. FUN huh? Chiasmus means nothing when you have the Book of Abraham fiasco staring you in the face. |
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