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First Bully Experience. Need input/advice

 
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So my son comes home today and tells me a kid in his 4th grade class was bullying him. The kids sit at assigned tables, the tables have 4-5 kids per table. Apparently this kid would slide over to other tables as he pleases and look at others work. My son asked him to go back to his table and thus began the name calling and bullying.

Later that day my son gets on the bus and another 3 kids(I believe all brothers) sit behind him a commence to calling him names and calling him gay for the ride home. I have no idea how it so happened that he got bullied in the class and on the bus by basically 4 different kids all in the same day. My guess is they all know each other an are now targeting my son.

My son is white/Asian. All 4 of the kids are black. I honestly think they are the only black kids in his school. We called the school, talked to the principal and the teacher and of course they told us what we wanted to hear. My problem is i KNOW this wont end here due to these kids aren't going to be like oh i learned my lesson and I'm sorry just like their parents wont swoop in and correct their behavior.

Anyone have any advice or similar story? I feel so helpless.
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wE LIVE IN A SMALL TOWN ON THE WEST COAST OF THE SOUTH ISLAND NEW ZEALAND...AND JUST YESTERDAY, MY SON 12 WENT ON HIS BIKE TO PLAY AT THE SCHOOL AS IT WAS A PUBLIC ANNERVERSARY DAY HERE DAY OFF, ANYHOWS ON HIS WAY HOME TWO BOYS YOUNGER THAN HIM TRIED TO SLASH THE TYRE ON HIS BIKE WITH A KNIFE AND THEN TRIED TO STAB HIM MISSED AND CUT HIS TOP THANK GOD, WE WENT AROUND TO SEE THE PARENTS OF THE TWO BOYS WHO SAID WE ARENT GOING TO CHASTIZE OUR KIDS, SO WE POLITELY TOLD THEM WE WERE GOING TO POLICE, WHICH WE DID, DONT KNOW THE OUTCOME BUT MY SON WHO HAS A DISABILITY WAS SO DISTROUGHT, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO NIP THIS IN THE BUD, SO IT DOESANT ESCALATE, THESE KIDS ARE GETTING OUT OF CONTROL AND DANGEROUS THESE DAYS, THATS BECAUSE THIS WORLD IS OUT OF CONTROL THESE DAYS TOO ,,MONKEY SEE MONKEY DO....
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Tell him to pick the biggest one and beat the living fuck out of him, teach him how to throw a solid right hook. Even better, give him a roll of quarters and tell him to keep it in his pocket until he is ready, then grab it and break the biggest ones nose, sucker punch, and then keep punching til a teacher pulls him off.

That, or else move him to another school and tell him not to fuck with the kids who try to cheat, just let it go.

Or you could find out the kids names and call their parents and threaten legal action if they don't keep their little idiots away from him. That probably won't work, but it is worth a shot.

Regardless, don't let him be bullied. Kids kill themselves over that shit.
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wE LIVE IN A SMALL TOWN ON THE WEST COAST OF THE SOUTH ISLAND NEW ZEALAND...AND JUST YESTERDAY, MY SON 12 WENT ON HIS BIKE TO PLAY AT THE SCHOOL AS IT WAS A PUBLIC ANNERVERSARY DAY HERE DAY OFF, ANYHOWS ON HIS WAY HOME TWO BOYS YOUNGER THAN HIM TRIED TO SLASH THE TYRE ON HIS BIKE WITH A KNIFE AND THEN TRIED TO STAB HIM MISSED AND CUT HIS TOP THANK GOD, WE WENT AROUND TO SEE THE PARENTS OF THE TWO BOYS WHO SAID WE ARENT GOING TO CHASTIZE OUR KIDS, SO WE POLITELY TOLD THEM WE WERE GOING TO POLICE, WHICH WE DID, DONT KNOW THE OUTCOME BUT MY SON WHO HAS A DISABILITY WAS SO DISTROUGHT, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO NIP THIS IN THE BUD, SO IT DOESANT ESCALATE, THESE KIDS ARE GETTING OUT OF CONTROL AND DANGEROUS THESE DAYS, THATS BECAUSE THIS WORLD IS OUT OF CONTROL THESE DAYS TOO ,,MONKEY SEE MONKEY DO....
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Geeze sorry to hear that! I hope your kid will be okay!
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Tell him to pick the biggest one and beat the living fuck out of him, teach him how to throw a solid right hook. Even better, give him a roll of quarters and tell him to keep it in his pocket until he is ready, then grab it and break the biggest ones nose, sucker punch, and then keep punching til a teacher pulls him off.

That, or else move him to another school and tell him not to fuck with the kids who try to cheat, just let it go.

Or you could find out the kids names and call their parents and threaten legal action if they don't keep their little idiots away from him. That probably won't work, but it is worth a shot.

Regardless, don't let him be bullied. Kids kill themselves over that shit.
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Fighting will not work. He would just get beat up.

I'm pretty sure dealing with that parents definitely wont work due to they are probably the source of these kids behavior.

Yea i definitely wont let him get bullied i just feel so f-ing hopeless but thanks for your input.
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Give your son the tools to protect himself...wrestling is awesome for little ones, later move to boxing....yea a right hook is good....but better when it follows a series of stiff left jabs.
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Hire a child advocate.
Call a meeting with the advocate, principal, counselor, and teacher.
Now it can't be shoved under the rug.

Good luck.
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11/28/2016 05:32 PM
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A BETTER idea though, is to make the move to home schooling.

Remember, school does NOT have to be from 8am to 3pm.. Do it in the evenings.

Look into local charter schools that offer home school programs with a couple classes in a learning center per week with other home schoolers.
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tell him to laugh it off and joke around with the kids

easier to make friends with them then turn it into something more
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11/28/2016 05:33 PM
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Give your son a can of pepper spray. Tell him to wait until he is threatened, then spray the fuck out of the bullies. They won't fuck with him again.
Get over it or die mad.
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So my son comes home today and tells me a kid in his 4th grade class was bullying him. The kids sit at assigned tables, the tables have 4-5 kids per table. Apparently this kid would slide over to other tables as he pleases and look at others work. My son asked him to go back to his table and thus began the name calling and bullying.

Later that day my son gets on the bus and another 3 kids(I believe all brothers) sit behind him a commence to calling him names and calling him gay for the ride home. I have no idea how it so happened that he got bullied in the class and on the bus by basically 4 different kids all in the same day. My guess is they all know each other an are now targeting my son.

My son is white/Asian. All 4 of the kids are black. I honestly think they are the only black kids in his school. We called the school, talked to the principal and the teacher and of course they told us what we wanted to hear. My problem is i KNOW this wont end here due to these kids aren't going to be like oh i learned my lesson and I'm sorry just like their parents wont swoop in and correct their behavior.

Anyone have any advice or similar story? I feel so helpless.
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You have 2 choices....

1) Police / authorities.

2) Put the fear of god in them in no uncertain terms if the little sh*ts touch your kid.
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So my son comes home today and tells me a kid in his 4th grade class was bullying him. The kids sit at assigned tables, the tables have 4-5 kids per table. Apparently this kid would slide over to other tables as he pleases and look at others work. My son asked him to go back to his table and thus began the name calling and bullying.

Later that day my son gets on the bus and another 3 kids(I believe all brothers) sit behind him a commence to calling him names and calling him gay for the ride home. I have no idea how it so happened that he got bullied in the class and on the bus by basically 4 different kids all in the same day. My guess is they all know each other an are now targeting my son.

My son is white/Asian. All 4 of the kids are black. I honestly think they are the only black kids in his school. We called the school, talked to the principal and the teacher and of course they told us what we wanted to hear. My problem is i KNOW this wont end here due to these kids aren't going to be like oh i learned my lesson and I'm sorry just like their parents wont swoop in and correct their behavior.

Anyone have any advice or similar story? I feel so helpless.
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My grandson was in 3rd grade and kids in 5th or 6th grade were assigned to each child in one of their classes. My grandson was physically bullied by the fat kid assigned to him. My daughter told the school. Apparently they talked to the kid, but it didn't help.

My daughter waited for the boy after school one day. She picked him up by the collar, got her face up to his, and said through her teeth, "If you ever touch my kid again, I swear to god, I will beat the shit out of you!"

The kid never touched my grandson again.

All the kids in his school were white. Unfortunately you have a different problem. Wish I had an answer.

How about if you show up after school one day with a large German Shepherd on a leash before they get on the bus. Pretend it's yours. Call those kids aside and tell them that the dog doesn't like kids who pick on your boy. Tell them he'll eat them alive if they continue to pick on your boy.

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11/28/2016 05:34 PM
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Muay Thai traing ASAP.

1. Builds self confidence
2. Builds self disipline.
3. Most importantly, it will give him the ability to kick the living shit out of anybody, anywhere, any time.
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HAVE A "LAWYER" SEND A LETTER TO THE PARENTS AND/OR GUARDIANS ASAP!!! AND CC THE PRIN. SUP. MAYOR CITY COUNSEL...ETC..


BRING MEGA MEGA SHAME AND ATTENTION TO THIS ISSUE ASAP!!!

ALSO, HAVE THE LAWYER ASK THE PARENTS AND SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR 'PROOF OF INSURANCE'..THIS WILLLET THEM KNOW THAT UR NOT FUCKIN AROUND...ALSO HAVE THE KID WEAR A CELL PHONE THAT IS ON CONSTANT RECORD AND LIVE FEED TO YOU AT ALL TIMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Give your son a can of pepper spray. Tell him to wait until he is threatened, then spray the fuck out of the bullies. They won't fuck with him again.
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Bad advice. Will lead to an arrest. Jeez.
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The thing is about bullying - words only - is that you choose IF they "hurt" you. The old saying is true - "sticks and stones may break your bones but words can never hurt you". IT IS TRUE. As long is it is only words, tell your son to ignore them, that their words are not true. It will strengthen his character to be able to see this. Unfortunately in society today it is taught that words "hurt", NOT SO if you do not let them. Teach him why these kids do this and to see them as they are. Don't fall for the whole my "feelings" thing.
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Muay Thai traing ASAP.

1. Builds self confidence
2. Builds self disipline.
3. Most importantly, it will give him the ability to kick the living shit out of anybody, anywhere, any time.
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Best advice so far. Op ignore the liberals in here like Tangy. She will get your boy killed with her Bernie Sanders agenda.
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He is a little guy compared to these kids.
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You are dealing with SNOWFLAKES. You need to handle it in a language they understand..

Read my previous posts.
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If your kid cannot stand up for himself, hire a bigger bully.
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Wow some of y'all have some straight-up pussified way of dealing with bullies... (report it, document it, counseling, etc.) I happen to agree with the one's who say teach your kid to fight. Winning the fight doesn't matter. It's putting up one that counts. Now please don't misunderstand. Name-calling, pointing & laughing, these are things we ALL have to deal with & most of us just shrug it off. However, when push comes to shove, some of us like to skip straight to throwing punches which I wholeheartedly agree with.

Oh, but don't do the quarter roll thing. Your kid will go to juvie and I doubt his lil fingers can even wrap around a roll of quarters.
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Muay Thai traing ASAP.

1. Builds self confidence
2. Builds self disipline.
3. Most importantly, it will give him the ability to kick the living shit out of anybody, anywhere, any time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60682128


Best advice so far. Op ignore the liberals in here like Tangy. She will get your boy killed with her Bernie Sanders agenda.
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Says the LIBERAL from Canada.

lmao

Yeah, sure OP..

You have a week to teach your kid how to kick 4 naggers asses.

Good luck..

Fucking tards..

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FIRST, do the "right thing". Tell the teacher(s) and/or Principal and give them ONE chance to fix the problem before it becomes a problem.

If they fail, and the bullying continues, he will need to beat the bleeding dog shit out of one of them. Preferably the biggest one, but it really doesn't matter.

I grew up around these....."people". They're all talk. As soon as you beat the shit out of one of them, no more problems. I could have saved myself a lot of grief if I had figured that out sooner rather than later.

I hope your kid is OK, and I hope you've taught him a little something something about throwing a punch.
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So my son comes home today and tells me a kid in his 4th grade class was bullying him. The kids sit at assigned tables, the tables have 4-5 kids per table. Apparently this kid would slide over to other tables as he pleases and look at others work. My son asked him to go back to his table and thus began the name calling and bullying.

Later that day my son gets on the bus and another 3 kids(I believe all brothers) sit behind him a commence to calling him names and calling him gay for the ride home. I have no idea how it so happened that he got bullied in the class and on the bus by basically 4 different kids all in the same day. My guess is they all know each other an are now targeting my son.

My son is white/Asian. All 4 of the kids are black. I honestly think they are the only black kids in his school. We called the school, talked to the principal and the teacher and of course they told us what we wanted to hear. My problem is i KNOW this wont end here due to these kids aren't going to be like oh i learned my lesson and I'm sorry just like their parents wont swoop in and correct their behavior.

Anyone have any advice or similar story? I feel so helpless.
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I'm sorry

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Tell him to pick the biggest one and beat the living fuck out of him, teach him how to throw a solid right hook. Even better, give him a roll of quarters and tell him to keep it in his pocket until he is ready, then grab it and break the biggest ones nose, sucker punch, and then keep punching til a teacher pulls him off.

That, or else move him to another school and tell him not to fuck with the kids who try to cheat, just let it go.

Or you could find out the kids names and call their parents and threaten legal action if they don't keep their little idiots away from him. That probably won't work, but it is worth a shot.

Regardless, don't let him be bullied. Kids kill themselves over that shit.
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^ This ^ works every time.

And as far as his being smaller than them OP, when my little brother was 10, he had this issue with a much older kid... he was no match for this kid either, & would've gotten beat up if he'd have stepped to him to duke it out.

He equalized that inequality with a 2X4... caught the big kid that kept beating on him one day walking into a café & beat the shit out of him with it.

He was never bothered again.
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If they touch your child he has right to defend himself

Does your child have friends at school?
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He's gonna have to woop some ass.
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Give your son a can of pepper spray. Tell him to wait until he is threatened, then spray the fuck out of the bullies. They won't fuck with him again.
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Bad advice. Will lead to an arrest. Jeez.
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Self defense isn't illegal. Besides, he's a minor. At worst he gets a ride home.
Get over it or die mad.
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Teach your kid to ignore the name calling.

If however, one of the bullies lays one single hand on your boy, let the punches begin. Start swinging and do not stop until a teacher pulls him off.

As a parent, if the school officials will not take any sort of action give them a warning. Warn the admins that your child will defend himself and if that means beating the living shit out of the bully then that will be the way it will go down.

Force the admins to take some responsibility in the matter. If you talk to them and tell them the situation and they refuse do anything then you will be forced to take matters into your own hands. Then again, warn them that you will hold them responsible and will file lawsuits against them if your child is injured due to their inaction.

Do not let that zero-tolerance policy bullshit scare you, if your child gets suspended for defending himself, don't worry about it.
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He's gonna have to woop some ass.
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Or become the beta male and their bitch forever...
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So, these bullies are 4th graders and much bigger than your kid?

You could find a bigger, badder 6th or 7th grader to wipe the floor with these punks. $50 would go a long way toward that effort, I'm sure.
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Unfortunately the only language most bullies understand is violence. You need to teach your boy how to fight. Tell him to kick the biggest one in the balls as hard as he can then jump on top of him and beat him tell he's pulled off.

Most other solutions only make him look weak and he'll continued to be a target.

I had a dude in H.S. that fucked with me until 10th grade.
One day he walked up to me at get into may face, but when he got close enough I smacked him in the nose and ran his fucking head into a metal pole which left him a bloody mess. I never had to worry about him or anyone else for that matter anymore in H.S.

Bullies can't be reasoned with because they lack that capability.
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