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For all you self defense Christians. I have a huge thread here exposing you decievers. Sword of the spirit, not your sword!!

 
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...treat others the way you want to be treated. He keeps a covenant of love with those who love him. You hate him, he will not only hate you, but will repay you to your face as promised.
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10


Didnt Jesus say to love your enemies? Didnt he also say he and the father are one? Seems to be something wrong with your theology there.
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When Jesus returns, he is going to do what to all who do not believe in him? Those with him will do what? Remember the two witnesses of revelations.
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10


I have no idea what Jesus is going to do when he returns or if he ever will return. I know what a book written by an iron age man describing a wild dream he had says. So you on one hand despise killing and refuse to under any circumstance thinking its evil yet on the other hand praise god and jesus for doing it?
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Killing with my own hands. My own flesh and of course I despise killing.
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OP is contradicting himself
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You picking up a sword is not the same as using the spirit. But some will settle with what they have.
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..and yes, when I defend myself there is hatred. Like I said, I could not stab my brother after all he has done to me.
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10


Sounds more like a personal problem
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You will stab your own brother who seeks to take your life?
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10


Cain did, so shhh...

All your doing is helping destroy christianty.
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..and yes, when I defend myself there is hatred. Like I said, I could not stab my brother after all he has done to me.
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10


Sounds more like a personal problem
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You will stab your own brother who seeks to take your life?
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10


Cain did, so shhh...

All your doing is helping destroy christianty.
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The truth will make most deny Christ. It needs not my help.
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..and yes, when I defend myself there is hatred. Like I said, I could not stab my brother after all he has done to me.
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10


Sounds more like a personal problem
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You will stab your own brother who seeks to take your life?
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10


Depends on the situation but Id probably just grab the weapon and judo trip him and disarm him then restrain him and ask him what the fuck hes thinking. Id certainly rather not kill him and have no desire to and would resist doing so as long as I possibly could. But if he absolutely refused to stop and it came down to it I would kill him and then cry that he made me do it. Id still love him afterward.
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John 18:36
Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

Are you guys simply ignoring this statement?
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..and yes, when I defend myself there is hatred. Like I said, I could not stab my brother after all he has done to me.
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10


Sounds more like a personal problem
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You will stab your own brother who seeks to take your life?
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10


Depends on the situation but Id probably just grab the weapon and judo trip him and disarm him then restrain him and ask him what the fuck hes thinking. Id certainly rather not kill him and have no desire to and would resist doing so as long as I possibly could. But if he absolutely refused to stop and it came down to it I would kill him and then cry that he made me do it. Id still love him afterward.
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"made you do it," when you could of chosen to die so that he may live? My brother has threatened my life on multiple occasions, attacked me on multiple occasions, he has just never gone through with it but could have, for I would let him. I have thought of killing my own brother, couldn't do it.
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Sounds more like a personal problem
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You will stab your own brother who seeks to take your life?
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10


Cain did, so shhh...

All your doing is helping destroy christianty.
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The truth will make most deny Christ. It needs not my help.
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10



Then why are you helping destroy it?

Why not show us how awesome you are, and do something about the failed ghetto schools? There's plenty of corruption to post about when you go out and find the truth.
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As for those with eyes to see, asking God to do something is not the same as you doing it.


Romans 12:19
Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath; for it is written: “Vengeance is Mine; I will repay,saith the Lord.”


Revelation 6:10
And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost Thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?”
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Thank you for your honest answer dear soul, but that doesn't make you a child of Satan.

Have you been hanging around some folks that say they are of God, but are not?...You know, the self righteous ones that have not the love of God in them and would condemn you if you don't follow their rules?

Peace
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Everyone who has the spirit is a child of God. Everyone who does not is a child of the devil. I am not listening.
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10


Then I can't help you at the moment, But I will remember you and have hope for you all the same...Go in peace.

Peace
 Quoting: The Cherished One


How can one be a child of God without the living god inside them? That is unscriptural.

There are the sons of disobedience under the control of the prince of the power of air. The spirit of error. The spirit of this world.
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10


Dear soul

How can I answer you, if you are not willing to listen...I can not violate your free will.

Peace
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Love does no harm to its neighbor. Are you telling me when you drive a knife into someone's chest, there isn't a slight bit of hatred in your heart? You can shoot someone with love in your heart? My brother would beat me a lot. You know most of the time I would sit there and let him? One time he put a machete up to my throat and I was holding a knife. You know I could not use it? My sister put a shovel up to my throat. I looked up to heaven and smiled.


God hates all workers of iniquity and he who loves violence. When the wrath of God comes down upon humanity it is not love, but rather, it is hatred. They are not his people, and he is not their God. So, if God is hating those he destroys..how are you not hating those you condemned to hell? God gave you the chance to repent. He forgave you. Yet you are not letting the one you condemned a chance to repent.
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10


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I am not brothers with the seed of the Serpent.

Killing can be justified lawfully, spriritually, moraly and scrupitually.

That being true, it is also true you have the choice not to kill another and be killed or wounded yourself.

That choice is yours to make. Judgement of the facts will be delt with at the judgement seat and the Op will not be the one judging.
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You will stab your own brother who seeks to take your life?
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10


Cain did, so shhh...

All your doing is helping destroy christianty.
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The truth will make most deny Christ. It needs not my help.
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10



Then why are you helping destroy it?

Why not show us how awesome you are, and do something about the failed ghetto schools? There's plenty of corruption to post about when you go out and find the truth.
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..I am not awesome
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I am not brothers with the seed of the Serpent.

Killing can be justified lawfully, spriritually, moraly and scrupitually.

That being true, it is also true you have the choice not to kill another and be killed or wounded yourself.

That choice is yours to make. Judgement of the facts will be delt with at the judgement seat and the Op will not be the one judging.
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Condemn not lest ye be condemned.
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As always pride protestants citing single Bible quotes and mixing them together in a sequence and a semantic that may or may not be consequent with that of the apostles to prove whatever it is they prefer which can be anything.

Instead maybe one should read Thomas Aquinas.. a proper theologian who addressed this issue.

Or one can continue to be proud and be a DIYer.
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Everyone who has the spirit is a child of God. Everyone who does not is a child of the devil. I am not listening.
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10


Then I can't help you at the moment, But I will remember you and have hope for you all the same...Go in peace.

Peace
 Quoting: The Cherished One


How can one be a child of God without the living god inside them? That is unscriptural.

There are the sons of disobedience under the control of the prince of the power of air. The spirit of error. The spirit of this world.
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10


Dear soul

How can I answer you, if you are not willing to listen...I can not violate your free will.

Peace
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Post a bible verse that shows a child of God need not the spirit of God.
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Let me ask you something OP.

If you were at home with your wife and kids and suddenly a gang of 5 men with knives and machetes broke into your home intent on stabbing and hacking to death your kids and raping your wife, what do you do? Just step aside and say please go ahead theyre all yours? All so you can remain "pure" in your eyes? Id say youre a coward and despicable human being.
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If they are Christian, they will be going to a better home, saved from evil. Of course I can jump in front of a bullet. Another thing, imagine the fact that God is allowing this and is not protecting.
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10


Why not just stab yourself through the heart now and at least allow your children to be raised by someone who loves them more than they do themselves. They are here for a purpose and it is NOT so you can make them an offering to God.
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Cain did, so shhh...

All your doing is helping destroy christianty.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73164264


The truth will make most deny Christ. It needs not my help.
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10



Then why are you helping destroy it?

Why not show us how awesome you are, and do something about the failed ghetto schools? There's plenty of corruption to post about when you go out and find the truth.
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..I am not awesome
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10




Well I faith that you can be.
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As always pride protestants citing single Bible quotes and mixing them together in a sequence and a semantic that may or may not be consequent with that of the apostles to prove whatever it is they prefer which can be anything.

Instead maybe one should read Thomas Aquinas.. a proper theologian who addressed this issue.

Or one can continue to be proud and be a DIYer.
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I am not a protestant or a catholic. One faith, one lord, one baptism. Denominations are sin.
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The truth will make most deny Christ. It needs not my help.
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10



Then why are you helping destroy it?

Why not show us how awesome you are, and do something about the failed ghetto schools? There's plenty of corruption to post about when you go out and find the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73164264


..I am not awesome
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10




Well I faith that you can be.
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Don't want to be. I had my chance and I fled.
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Let me ask you something OP.

If you were at home with your wife and kids and suddenly a gang of 5 men with knives and machetes broke into your home intent on stabbing and hacking to death your kids and raping your wife, what do you do? Just step aside and say please go ahead theyre all yours? All so you can remain "pure" in your eyes? Id say youre a coward and despicable human being.
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If they are Christian, they will be going to a better home, saved from evil. Of course I can jump in front of a bullet. Another thing, imagine the fact that God is allowing this and is not protecting.
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10


Why not just stab yourself through the heart now and at least allow your children to be raised by someone who loves them more than they do themselves. They are here for a purpose and it is NOT so you can make them an offering to God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68560474


That would be murder and also against this verse. You claim they are here for a purpose yet God is not protecting them?? Three stepped into the fire, a forth was with them. Yet another man was with lions.


2 Corinthians 10:4-6
For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God for the pulling down of strongholds,
casting down imaginations and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ, and being in readiness to avenge all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled.
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Op
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Revelation 11:3-621st Century King James Version (KJ21)
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.”
4 These are the two olive trees and the two candlesticks, standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth and devoureth their enemies; and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy, and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.


Do you see a knife, gun, rocket, tank, boat, plane? A weapon of this world or are they praying to the almighty God in Jesus name? For he who delights in the law of the lord, his hearts desire shall what?
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Sounds more like a personal problem
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You will stab your own brother who seeks to take your life?
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10


Depends on the situation but Id probably just grab the weapon and judo trip him and disarm him then restrain him and ask him what the fuck hes thinking. Id certainly rather not kill him and have no desire to and would resist doing so as long as I possibly could. But if he absolutely refused to stop and it came down to it I would kill him and then cry that he made me do it. Id still love him afterward.
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"made you do it," when you could of chosen to die so that he may live? My brother has threatened my life on multiple occasions, attacked me on multiple occasions, he has just never gone through with it but could have, for I would let him. I have thought of killing my own brother, couldn't do it.
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10


Just doing what God programmed us all to do. Natural survival mechanism. God programmed us all to desire life not death with a natural self preservation mechanism. By refusing to stop with clear evil in his heart to kill me he made me kill him to stay alive so I could continue to provide for my children and wife. No evil was in my heart when I killed him though. I just did what was necessary to live and to solve the problem. He triggered the God given survival mechanism. What can you do. I gave him so many chances but the evil raged within him. Very sad situation. Why should I choose to die so an evil man can live and possibly hurt my family and others after Im dead? Sounds like youre going against Gods design by refusing to defend yourself.
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Isaiah 28:13
But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
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Op, I cannot kill a spider
I weep to see a dead creature on the road
if an innocent was threatened with harm you can bet your bum
I'd be all over the threatener
Our Father wishes us to protect those who need protecting
I believe I am here to do just that
and I will when the time comes
the doctrine of men means nothing to those of us who have a relationship
with Father
stop asking man and start asking HIM
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You will stab your own brother who seeks to take your life?
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10


Depends on the situation but Id probably just grab the weapon and judo trip him and disarm him then restrain him and ask him what the fuck hes thinking. Id certainly rather not kill him and have no desire to and would resist doing so as long as I possibly could. But if he absolutely refused to stop and it came down to it I would kill him and then cry that he made me do it. Id still love him afterward.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73532332


"made you do it," when you could of chosen to die so that he may live? My brother has threatened my life on multiple occasions, attacked me on multiple occasions, he has just never gone through with it but could have, for I would let him. I have thought of killing my own brother, couldn't do it.
 Quoting: Child Of Satan - 1 John 3:10


Just doing what God programmed us all to do. Natural survival mechanism. God programmed us all to desire life not death with a natural self preservation mechanism. By refusing to stop with clear evil in his heart to kill me he made me kill him to stay alive so I could continue to provide for my children and wife. No evil was in my heart when I killed him though. I just did what was necessary to live and to solve the problem. He triggered the God given survival mechanism. What can you do. I gave him so many chances but the evil raged within him. Very sad situation. Why should I choose to die so an evil man can live and possibly hurt my family and others after Im dead? Sounds like youre going against Gods design by refusing to defend yourself.
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The heart is what? The flesh is what? God compares humans to dogs because? Wolves? Snakes?

Why can God not provide and protect for you?
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God of Jesus: "God is love." (1 John 4:16)
God of Moses: "Kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man" (Numbers 31:17)

God of Jesus: "Whoever welcomes one of these little children in my name welcomes me." (Mark 9:37)
God of Moses: "Put to death men and women, children and infants" (1 Samuel 15:2-3)

God of Jesus: "Love does no harm to its neighbor" (Romans 13:10)
God of Moses: "He totally destroyed all who breathed, just as the Lord, the God of Israel, had commanded." (Joshua 10:40)

God of Jesus: "[The devil] was a murderer from the beginning." (John 8:44)
God of Moses: "Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children" (Ezekiel 9:6)

God of Jesus: "Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour." (1 Peter 5:8)
God of Moses: "Like a lion I will devour them." (Hosea 13:8)

God of Jesus: "Anyone who does not love his brother [is of the devil]." (1 John 3:10)
God of Moses: "Go back and forth killing your brother and friend and neighbor" (Exodus 32:27)

God of Jesus: "[The devil] is a liar and the father of lies." (John 8:44)
God of Moses: "Put a lying spirit in the mouths of all these prophets of yours." (1 Kings 22:23)

God of Jesus: "The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy." (John 10:10)
God of Moses: "Pursue, kill and completely destroy them." (Jeremiah 50:21)

God of Jesus: "He who does what is sinful is of the devil" (1 John 3:8)
God of Moses: "Do not leave alive anything that breathes" (Deuteronomy 20:16)

God of Jesus: "God so loved the world.." (John 3:16)
God of Moses: "I will wipe humankind ..from the face of the Earth." (Genesis 6:7)

God of Jesus: "Love your enemies" (Luke 6:27-28)
God of Moses: "Treat the Midianites as enemies and kill them." (Numbers 25:16-17)

God of Jesus: "For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone" (James 1:13)
God of Moses: "[He] tempted Abraham" (Genesis 22:1)





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