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What is a Chimney Pipe, And Why Am I Told I Need One? | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72807916  United States12/03/2016 12:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73509152 United States12/03/2016 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Depends. How is the existing pipe installed? In a wood frame or in brick or rock?? How rotten is the pipe? Stick your head in the fire bow or go up on the roof with a flashlight and check it out. If theres holes in the pipe it has to be replaced. I would suggest youtube videos as a place to start with in finding out how to check. I have a custom fireplace 2 1/2 stories of field rock with a custom firebox in the house BUT, they installed piping too large and creosote is a problem. Always something... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70497724 United States12/03/2016 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I did a very rudimentary search for chimneysweeps, and found this site. I think you should contact an expert and get a second and third opinion. [link to www.csia.org] |
Sodbuster  User ID: 68702751 United States12/03/2016 12:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, I'll bite, it this for a fireplace only, or for for a dual set up where you have two stacks and one is to vent the water heater? In either case unless you have a 5 story house $5K is way way way out of line. I heat with wood and would be happy to share what knowledge I can. Coal burning stove no natural gas, if that ain't country, I'll kiss your ass - David Allan Coe |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19438283 United States12/03/2016 12:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73536475  Netherlands12/03/2016 12:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73536475 Netherlands12/03/2016 12:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If your chimney is not sound carbon dioxide could enter your property and that's fatal. Would be cheaper to find this out first. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73536475 [link to www.stovefittersmanual.co.uk] |
| Sodbuster User ID: 68702751 United States12/03/2016 12:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If your chimney is not sound carbon dioxide could enter your property and that's fatal. Would be cheaper to find this out first. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73536475 Carbon Monoxide,from a fellow Dutchman, but I agree. If it were leaking that badly you would smell the wood smoke as opposed to a gas burning appliance which would have no odor. Coal burning stove no natural gas, if that ain't country, I'll kiss your ass - David Allan Coe |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72807916 United States12/03/2016 12:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, I'll bite, it this for a fireplace only, or for for a dual set up where you have two stacks and one is to vent the water heater? In either case unless you have a 5 story house $5K is way way way out of line. I heat with wood and would be happy to share what knowledge I can. Quoting: Sodbuster Thanks for your reply! I live in a single story ranch and will be used as a fireplace only. I will be using only wood only as a source of heat. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72807916 United States12/03/2016 12:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Depends. How is the existing pipe installed? In a wood frame or in brick or rock?? How rotten is the pipe? Stick your head in the fire bow or go up on the roof with a flashlight and check it out. If theres holes in the pipe it has to be replaced. I would suggest youtube videos as a place to start with in finding out how to check. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73509152 I have a custom fireplace 2 1/2 stories of field rock with a custom firebox in the house BUT, they installed piping too large and creosote is a problem. Always something... I think the contractor said that I dont have any pipe at all since my home is old. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73536475 Netherlands12/03/2016 12:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If your chimney is not sound carbon dioxide could enter your property and that's fatal. Would be cheaper to find this out first. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73536475 Carbon Monoxide,from a fellow Dutchman, but I agree. If it were leaking that badly you would smell the wood smoke as opposed to a gas burning appliance which would have no odor. Sorry. I did not see my mistake |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72807916 United States12/03/2016 12:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72807916 United States12/03/2016 12:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72807916 United States12/03/2016 01:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If your chimney is not sound carbon dioxide could enter your property and that's fatal. Would be cheaper to find this out first. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73536475 Carbon Monoxide,from a fellow Dutchman, but I agree. If it were leaking that badly you would smell the wood smoke as opposed to a gas burning appliance which would have no odor. Thanks! So as long as I am unable to smell wood smoke, do you think I may be safe? I dont trust the contractor at all and think he is looking for a big payout but safety is indeed forst for me. Thanks! |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72807916 United States12/03/2016 01:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19438283 United States12/03/2016 01:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72807916 United States12/03/2016 01:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Depends. How is the existing pipe installed? In a wood frame or in brick or rock?? How rotten is the pipe? Stick your head in the fire bow or go up on the roof with a flashlight and check it out. If theres holes in the pipe it has to be replaced. I would suggest youtube videos as a place to start with in finding out how to check. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73509152 I have a custom fireplace 2 1/2 stories of field rock with a custom firebox in the house BUT, they installed piping too large and creosote is a problem. Always something... Forgot to mention in my first reply that my fireplace is brick. My home on the other hand is not brick, but the fireplace itself is. What is creosote? I am such a home newbie. Thanks! |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72807916 United States12/03/2016 01:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be sure to get a double-walled pipe so as not to burn down the house. Some stoves even intake air from here so it doesn't suck out the air from the room. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19438283 Thanks! I definitely do not want any fires. I was hoping that the contractor was feeding me BS since $5000 is a lot of money. Sigh, wish there was a cheaper solution if this lack of pipe may lead to a fire hazard. I guess that the past owners were lucky all these years? Was hoping that it was just a false alert from the contractor. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 56563724 United States12/03/2016 01:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You sound very unfamiliar with the use of fireplaces. Get a professional to clean out your chimney and evaluate the situation. There could be creosote buildup in there, bird nests, whatever, and you don't want a chimney fire. You might need a chimney liner. Maybe that's what he meant? Don't risk your safety. The guy you quoted may be shaky, but you should be able to find someone better. I'm concerned for your safety as you seem unfamiliar. Get a carbon monoxide detector for your home. It looks like a smoke detector. Safety first. Good luck. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73536624  Australia12/03/2016 01:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sometimes what they do with a brick fire place, is they block up the top and put a metal pipe. It stops you having to have your chimney cleaned as often and is easier to clean. Also if there is a problem with the brick chimney blocking it off and putting a metal pipe is easier than rebuilding it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73536624 Australia12/03/2016 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Sodbuster User ID: 68702751 United States12/03/2016 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If your chimney is not sound carbon dioxide could enter your property and that's fatal. Would be cheaper to find this out first. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73536475 Carbon Monoxide,from a fellow Dutchman, but I agree. If it were leaking that badly you would smell the wood smoke as opposed to a gas burning appliance which would have no odor. Sorry. I did not see my mistake No worries my friend..  Coal burning stove no natural gas, if that ain't country, I'll kiss your ass - David Allan Coe |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 56563724 United States12/03/2016 01:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You sound very unfamiliar with the use of fireplaces. Get a professional to clean out your chimney and evaluate the situation. There could be creosote buildup in there, bird nests, whatever, and you don't want a chimney fire. You might need a chimney liner. Maybe that's what he meant? Don't risk your safety. The guy you quoted may be shaky, but you should be able to find someone better. I'm concerned for your safety as you seem unfamiliar. Get a carbon monoxide detector for your home. It looks like a smoke detector. Safety first. Good luck. Quoting: JaggedCat Also. Have someone show you how to work the thing. Do you know to open the flue? I suspect you need someone to show you. Good luck. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73536624 Australia12/03/2016 01:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73536624 Australia12/03/2016 01:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73536624 Australia12/03/2016 01:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So I just bought a home that was built in 1960 and had a contractor visit my home and tell me that my fireplace is "not up to code" and that I need to "install some pipe in my fireplace for safety since my home is old and not up to code". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72807916 So this is an actual open fireplace with a brick chimney not a stove? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1332047 United States12/03/2016 01:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Imagine stacking a bunch of toilet paper tubes, lined up perfectly... over time as the foundation settles those tubes are no longer aligned perfectly and could cause poor exhaust from your fireplace. As another poster said it could cause carbon monoxide/dioxide to fill the house. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1332047 United States12/03/2016 01:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Imagine stacking a bunch of toilet paper tubes, lined up perfectly... over time as the foundation settles those tubes are no longer aligned perfectly and could cause poor exhaust from your fireplace. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1332047 As another poster said it could cause carbon monoxide/dioxide to fill the house. [link to www.csia.org] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73536624 Australia12/03/2016 01:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Imagine stacking a bunch of toilet paper tubes, lined up perfectly... over time as the foundation settles those tubes are no longer aligned perfectly and could cause poor exhaust from your fireplace. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1332047 As another poster said it could cause carbon monoxide/dioxide to fill the house. Yep you are right its lean which isn't even so much from the foundations but due to the heat on the brick over time. Once it starts to lean you either put in a hood and pipe or rebuild the fireplace which is far more expensive. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4986760 United States12/03/2016 01:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am asking this here because I never believe what I hear from any professional contractor (or anyone else in life) without doing my own REAL research. I know that people here research the FACTS in life and are the most credible (in my honest opinion) to seek TRUTH from in many facets of life. Seriously, I mean that 100%! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72807916 So I just bought a home that was built in 1960 and had a contractor visit my home and tell me that my fireplace is "not up to code" and that I need to "install some pipe in my fireplace for safety since my home is old and not up to code". I believe that this "advice" is just a means to make some serious money for this contractor ($5000) and I am naturally very suspicious. He advised that it is dangerous to burn wood in my fireplace due to lacking this "pipe installation". So I did some research into this issue and have yet to find any reason as to why I was told this. My house has been around for decades and the past owner used the fireplace in the winter. But still, I am not familiar with the topic as to whether it is BS or true. Does anyone here know if this is a dangerous condition, or just a lie? Thanks SOOOO MUCH!!!!!!!! Being to code is bullshit. You are grandfathered in I had a house built in the 40's and it had a clay chimney pipe. Its bullshit, you probably already have the same chimney pipe I had unless your home was built by Grizzly Adams or some other fur trapper. Stick a flash light in there and with a tape, measure the size. Then go online and order a chimney brush with fiberglass pole extensions. 40 or 60 bucks. Then run it up and down the chimney a few times. Make a split curtain out of two pieces of plastic. Clear might be best to see what comes down. I doubt very much will. $5000, he needs to go pound sand. If the pipe was made of fuckin gold it wouldn't cost more than 500 dollars. Run the brush next spring after a season of burning. There wont be much that comes down. |
| Sodbuster User ID: 68702751 United States12/03/2016 01:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be sure to get a double-walled pipe so as not to burn down the house. Some stoves even intake air from here so it doesn't suck out the air from the room. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19438283 Thanks! I definitely do not want any fires. I was hoping that the contractor was feeding me BS since $5000 is a lot of money. Sigh, wish there was a cheaper solution if this lack of pipe may lead to a fire hazard. I guess that the past owners were lucky all these years? Was hoping that it was just a false alert from the contractor. If his house was built in the 60's I will guarantee that he doesn't have the OSB chase with pipe running through it like in modern homes. It is a masonry chimney with clay tile inside of that. He could line his chimney with single wall and have zero chance of a fire. What his inspector more than likely saw was a deterioration of the mortar joints holding the clay tiles together, very common on homes of this vintage. Question for you OP are you going to install a wood stove or is this an open fireplace. If it's an open fireplace you will not be heating your home with it, it will draw more heated air (from your furnace, because of the draft, up the flue than will be returned to the room. You feel the warmth, but you are wasting money at this point. I believe you mentioned this is a a single story home. $5000 to line the chimney is an ass raping, if you are at all handy or have friends that are, (many will work for beer and pizza), you can get this job done for 1/10th the price quoted. Keep us informed. Coal burning stove no natural gas, if that ain't country, I'll kiss your ass - David Allan Coe |
