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Nuclear (OP) User ID: 70734141 Sweden 12/10/2016 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Enki/Innanna problem was solved a few post ago but thanks anyway. I'm trying to map it all out to get a clear view of how things work in these stories. There is this strange feeling I need to do this to learn more about myself. Can't back it up. But it's also very interesting to do. Yes you can but what do familial relationships matter? They are not consistent. Enki is Hercules, inanna is Aphrodite there is no relationship there. Enki is Geb, Inanna Isis. They also aren't accurately listed online, for the most part. Until now it helped me connect some dots. Because in one myth there was a parent-child relationchip and in the other myth not I knew there should be someone I did not find yet. In the end the platform is a nextgen mindmap. Just connect the things you know to be true. In the database there is this huge information-web. I want to provide a view into that information web which could clarify relationships that would otherwise go unnoticed. It's an experiment but I believe in node-relationship-based informationstorage. And the navigation something like it is now. When you go to a website like wikipedia it's not easy to see multiple relationships through multiple nodes at the same time. This nodeweb solves that problem. The reason why it's not that important is that the links are easily removed if proven wrong. The more information that is inserted into the web the more "true" the web becomes. Sometimes dead links or dead nodes need to be removed because they were based on false information. Don't know let's see how it works out. It was fun to make so. ;) Last Edited by Nuclear on 12/10/2016 06:44 PM Uncle Ra "Your choice is simple: Join us and live in peace or pursue your present course and face obliteration." "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." |
Nuclear (OP) User ID: 70734141 Sweden 12/10/2016 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The main pantheons are Sumerian, Canaanite, Egyptian, Greek, Roman, Indian, and Norse. Then do Islam for fun. Quoting: Attar The missing ones are on the roadmap. Thanks! Uncle Ra "Your choice is simple: Join us and live in peace or pursue your present course and face obliteration." "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." |
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Nuclear (OP) User ID: 70734141 Sweden 12/10/2016 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oy vey Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72946267 enki is not a word in Sumerian it's en^ki ki is not read as part of the word, it's a determinate You want to know about Venus ? answer this question What was the symbol used to represent UB the four regions in Sumerian cosmology ? Swastika? Uncle Ra "Your choice is simple: Join us and live in peace or pursue your present course and face obliteration." "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72946267 Canada 12/10/2016 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oy vey Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72946267 enki is not a word in Sumerian it's en^ki ki is not read as part of the word, it's a determinate You want to know about Venus ? answer this question What was the symbol used to represent UB the four regions in Sumerian cosmology ? Swastika? no sir, I will give you a hint though It was the same as Jerusalem's old city seal |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72946267 Canada 12/10/2016 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here, my friend Here is the best Sumerian online dictionary available [link to psd.museum.upenn.edu] Just type the word you are looking for in the bottom of the page search for " en " search for " ki " Search for " enki " " enki " is not a proper word in Sumerian and does not exist in any text It's only " en^ki " { superscript for the determinant } { See Sumerian / Akkadian determinates } |
KM User ID: 66639271 Sweden 12/10/2016 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oy vey Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72946267 enki is not a word in Sumerian it's en^ki ki is not read as part of the word, it's a determinate You want to know about Venus ? answer this question What was the symbol used to represent UB the four regions in Sumerian cosmology ? Swastika? no sir, I will give you a hint though It was the same as Jerusalem's old city seal this? [link to www.bbc.com] |
Nuclear (OP) User ID: 70734141 Sweden 12/10/2016 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oy vey Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72946267 enki is not a word in Sumerian it's en^ki ki is not read as part of the word, it's a determinate You want to know about Venus ? answer this question What was the symbol used to represent UB the four regions in Sumerian cosmology ? Swastika? no sir, I will give you a hint though It was the same as Jerusalem's old city seal It's difficult to find this quick but I do find a lion. But I think it's from the new Jeruzalem. Or this: [link to www.breakingisraelnews.com (secure)] But that was of a King. Will take a further look at it. Uncle Ra "Your choice is simple: Join us and live in peace or pursue your present course and face obliteration." "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." |
Queen of Swords User ID: 73377582 Australia 12/10/2016 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To get as accurate a picture as possible you will really need to go back to primary resources. This means accessing university data bases to gain access to copies of the original documents and engravings. To really do your research you would need to learn ancient languages because otherwise you are relying on someone else's interpretation. I studied ancient religions at a bachelor degree level and used translated versions of the original inscriptions. Good luck, it is a massive job. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72946267 Canada 12/10/2016 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the pentagram was the pre-cuneiform symbol for " UB " which was actually more of a generic mathematical convention used by the high priest who also functioned as the astronomer I studied too |
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Nuclear (OP) User ID: 70734141 Sweden 12/10/2016 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To get as accurate a picture as possible you will really need to go back to primary resources. This means accessing university data bases to gain access to copies of the original documents and engravings. To really do your research you would need to learn ancient languages because otherwise you are relying on someone else's interpretation. Quoting: Queen of Swords I studied ancient religions at a bachelor degree level and used translated versions of the original inscriptions. Good luck, it is a massive job. That is not really possible in my situation I'm afraid. But I hope by checking multiple sources that I get a good direction and a better view. Thanks for the tips. Uncle Ra "Your choice is simple: Join us and live in peace or pursue your present course and face obliteration." "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72946267 Canada 12/10/2016 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | really what you want to do is learn more about Sumerian mathematical astronomy, which I can teach you if you are interested As far as understanding the city seal of Jerusalem, you want to first examine the Akkadian name of the city " Uru-salim " " Uru " is also a determinate like " ki " { also usually following " ki " and in this case it means the word it follows is a city / province / town " Uru " originally was a Sumerian word { before it was an Akkadian determinant } that means " flood " and was used to refer to eclipses { Umbral shadow measured in arcminutes using the hands } " salim " is the Canaanite name for Venus when it is the Evening star hence " uru -salim " and it's seal of the pentagram, which represented Venus and the pentagram it traces out in the night sky with it's conjunctions |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73581296 United States 12/10/2016 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | at this point OP, you are gathering info, connecting the dots will come eventually, so just gather and see whatever connections you can make as you go. finding the info in different places, you'll see that some doesn't exactly match up. just make a note of that and keep going, eventually you'll see which info seems truer for you than others. no need to delete the info you already have as 'false', proven wrong, no! if you do that, you'll be spinning in circles. it's not like those who told of zeus and aphrodite etc, always compared who was who with earlier accounts and gave all the names that each was known by. keep digging, keep an open mind, take good notes and you'll discover bit by bit who was who. things eventually start falling into place for ya, and from all your notes together, you'll be able to connect the dots at last. . |
Nuclear (OP) User ID: 70734141 Sweden 12/10/2016 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no sir, the old city seal for jerusalem was the pentagram Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72946267 the pentagram was the pre-cuneiform symbol for " UB " which was actually more of a generic mathematical convention used by the high priest who also functioned as the astronomer I studied too Ah alright, the pentagram represents the 5 elements right? Then what does the new symbol the hexagon shape star mean? Did they find a 6th element or something? There is this cube inside the symbol. (Metatron's cube). What are they in relationship to the cube? Keepers of the Cube? Did they imprison the cube? Questions I hope to find answers to. Uncle Ra "Your choice is simple: Join us and live in peace or pursue your present course and face obliteration." "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72946267 Canada 12/10/2016 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No offense, OP, but it sounds like you're confused because you have studied the writings of people who think words like " enki " and " annunaki " are legitimate words in the Sumerian / Akkadian lexicon, and they just aren't They are very common misconceptions that have gotten spread in the conspiracy community because people do not fact check { or go deep with their studies } |
Nuclear (OP) User ID: 70734141 Sweden 12/10/2016 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | really what you want to do is learn more about Sumerian mathematical astronomy, which I can teach you if you are interested Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72946267 As far as understanding the city seal of Jerusalem, you want to first examine the Akkadian name of the city " Uru-salim " " Uru " is also a determinate like " ki " { also usually following " ki " and in this case it means the word it follows is a city / province / town " Uru " originally was a Sumerian word { before it was an Akkadian determinant } that means " flood " and was used to refer to eclipses { Umbral shadow measured in arcminutes using the hands } " salim " is the Canaanite name for Venus when it is the Evening star hence " uru -salim " and it's seal of the pentagram, which represented Venus and the pentagram it traces out in the night sky with it's conjunctions Would like to know more about the math. Do you have any good info on it? So Jeruzalem was a Caanite city? Weren't the Caanites descandants of Cain or something? Uncle Ra "Your choice is simple: Join us and live in peace or pursue your present course and face obliteration." "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." |
Nuclear (OP) User ID: 70734141 Sweden 12/10/2016 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | at this point OP, you are gathering info, connecting the dots will come eventually, so just gather and see whatever connections you can make as you go. Quoting: Dixie Rebel finding the info in different places, you'll see that some doesn't exactly match up. just make a note of that and keep going, eventually you'll see which info seems truer for you than others. no need to delete the info you already have as 'false', proven wrong, no! if you do that, you'll be spinning in circles. it's not like those who told of zeus and aphrodite etc, always compared who was who with earlier accounts and gave all the names that each was known by. keep digging, keep an open mind, take good notes and you'll discover bit by bit who was who. things eventually start falling into place for ya, and from all your notes together, you'll be able to connect the dots at last. . I hope it works out that way. Thanks for the support! Uncle Ra "Your choice is simple: Join us and live in peace or pursue your present course and face obliteration." "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72946267 Canada 12/10/2016 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no sir, the old city seal for jerusalem was the pentagram Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72946267 the pentagram was the pre-cuneiform symbol for " UB " which was actually more of a generic mathematical convention used by the high priest who also functioned as the astronomer I studied too Ah alright, the pentagram represents the 5 elements right? Then what does the new symbol the hexagon shape star mean? Did they find a 6th element or something? There is this cube inside the symbol. (Metatron's cube). What are they in relationship to the cube? Keepers of the Cube? Did they imprison the cube? Questions I hope to find answers to. um...no Venus conjunctions You don't know what they are ? |
Nuclear (OP) User ID: 70734141 Sweden 12/10/2016 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No offense, OP, but it sounds like you're confused because you have studied the writings of people who think words like " enki " and " annunaki " are legitimate words in the Sumerian / Akkadian lexicon, and they just aren't Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72946267 They are very common misconceptions that have gotten spread in the conspiracy community because people do not fact check { or go deep with their studies } Maybe a bit, that is why I'm inserting information into the system. Because it's to large for me to comprehent at once. There will be errors in the nodes in the beginning. But I think when I read more about it more truths and old errors come to light. That is when I'm going to remove old false links and nodes. It's like shaping clay or making a statue. The truth is the clay, and by connecting the dots I'm shaping the simulated-truth as much as possible can to the real truth. I hope. :P Uncle Ra "Your choice is simple: Join us and live in peace or pursue your present course and face obliteration." "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72946267 Canada 12/10/2016 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | really what you want to do is learn more about Sumerian mathematical astronomy, which I can teach you if you are interested Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72946267 As far as understanding the city seal of Jerusalem, you want to first examine the Akkadian name of the city " Uru-salim " " Uru " is also a determinate like " ki " { also usually following " ki " and in this case it means the word it follows is a city / province / town " Uru " originally was a Sumerian word { before it was an Akkadian determinant } that means " flood " and was used to refer to eclipses { Umbral shadow measured in arcminutes using the hands } " salim " is the Canaanite name for Venus when it is the Evening star hence " uru -salim " and it's seal of the pentagram, which represented Venus and the pentagram it traces out in the night sky with it's conjunctions Would like to know more about the math. Do you have any good info on it? So Jeruzalem was a Caanite city? Weren't the Caanites descandants of Cain or something? Yes, I the only person on the planet in possession of the ancient mathematical secrets of the Sumerian priesthood You would need to study some languages and tradition before I would get into math with you { I have my own website for that topic } I need my students to have some proper educational foundation before I can teach them |
Nuclear (OP) User ID: 70734141 Sweden 12/10/2016 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no sir, the old city seal for jerusalem was the pentagram Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72946267 the pentagram was the pre-cuneiform symbol for " UB " which was actually more of a generic mathematical convention used by the high priest who also functioned as the astronomer I studied too Ah alright, the pentagram represents the 5 elements right? Then what does the new symbol the hexagon shape star mean? Did they find a 6th element or something? There is this cube inside the symbol. (Metatron's cube). What are they in relationship to the cube? Keepers of the Cube? Did they imprison the cube? Questions I hope to find answers to. um...no Venus conjunctions You don't know what they are ? Nope, not yet. I'm a programmer in my normal life :P Last Edited by Nuclear on 12/10/2016 04:58 PM Uncle Ra "Your choice is simple: Join us and live in peace or pursue your present course and face obliteration." "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." |
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Nuclear (OP) User ID: 70734141 Sweden 12/10/2016 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | really what you want to do is learn more about Sumerian mathematical astronomy, which I can teach you if you are interested Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72946267 As far as understanding the city seal of Jerusalem, you want to first examine the Akkadian name of the city " Uru-salim " " Uru " is also a determinate like " ki " { also usually following " ki " and in this case it means the word it follows is a city / province / town " Uru " originally was a Sumerian word { before it was an Akkadian determinant } that means " flood " and was used to refer to eclipses { Umbral shadow measured in arcminutes using the hands } " salim " is the Canaanite name for Venus when it is the Evening star hence " uru -salim " and it's seal of the pentagram, which represented Venus and the pentagram it traces out in the night sky with it's conjunctions Would like to know more about the math. Do you have any good info on it? So Jeruzalem was a Caanite city? Weren't the Caanites descandants of Cain or something? Yes, I the only person on the planet in possession of the ancient mathematical secrets of the Sumerian priesthood You would need to study some languages and tradition before I would get into math with you { I have my own website for that topic } I need my students to have some proper educational foundation before I can teach them Alright, I'm a technical person and languages are not my main but ok. Do I read about it on your website? Uncle Ra "Your choice is simple: Join us and live in peace or pursue your present course and face obliteration." "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72946267 Canada 12/10/2016 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you need to at least be familiar with topics / terminologies like : baratu / extispicy { done during cycles needing mathematical astronomy } and offices like en en^ki en^lil ensi ensik lugal belu etc { These are minus the diacritical marks } Good luck with your studies ! Make sure you stick to databases like the ePSD and the ETCSL Otherwise you will never understand the languages |
Nuclear (OP) User ID: 70734141 Sweden 12/10/2016 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you need to at least be familiar with topics / terminologies like : Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72946267 baratu / extispicy { done during cycles needing mathematical astronomy } and offices like en en^ki en^lil ensi ensik lugal belu etc { These are minus the diacritical marks } Good luck with your studies ! Make sure you stick to databases like the ePSD and the ETCSL Otherwise you will never understand the languages Alright that will take some time but I'll take a look at it. Thanks for your help! Uncle Ra "Your choice is simple: Join us and live in peace or pursue your present course and face obliteration." "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73581296 United States 12/10/2016 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP is trying to understand. We were all new at this, remember. OP just relax. What is important for you to know, you'll find out as you go along. 'Enki' has several names, several spellings, as do they all, depending on which text you are reading. Doesn't make one any more right than another. You can just keep track of the different spellings and names, and put the type you found in parenthesis. These are just some of the notes I found: For example: Enki (Sumerian) aka the EN.KI 'lord of earth', EA, Ea 'he whose home is water' (Sumerian, Babylonian), Hea, NU-DIM-MUD 'he who fashions things', Nudimmud, Nudumud, Sama.El 'serpent god' (Akkadian), Lucifer (Bible), Neptune, Poseidon (Greek). and etc. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73581296 United States 12/10/2016 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, I the only person on the planet in possession of the ancient mathematical secrets of the Sumerian priesthood Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72946267 You would need to study some languages and tradition before I would get into math with you { I have my own website for that topic } I need my students to have some proper educational foundation before I can teach them Say what? The only person on the planet in possession of those secrets, eh? Yeah ok.. Who taught them to you? . |