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Problem with relationship Enki vs Inanna/Ninsianna

 
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The main pantheons are Sumerian, Canaanite, Egyptian, Greek, Roman, Indian, and Norse. Then do Islam for fun.
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I've done this already, what us your problem?
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The Enki/Innanna problem was solved a few post ago but thanks anyway.

I'm trying to map it all out to get a clear view of how things work in these stories.

There is this strange feeling I need to do this to learn more about myself. Can't back it up. But it's also very interesting to do.
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Yes you can but what do familial relationships matter? They are not consistent. Enki is Hercules, inanna is Aphrodite there is no relationship there. Enki is Geb, Inanna Isis. They also aren't accurately listed online, for the most part.
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Until now it helped me connect some dots. Because in one myth there was a parent-child relationchip and in the other myth not I knew there should be someone I did not find yet.

In the end the platform is a nextgen mindmap. Just connect the things you know to be true. In the database there is this huge information-web. I want to provide a view into that information web which could clarify relationships that would otherwise go unnoticed.

It's an experiment but I believe in node-relationship-based informationstorage. And the navigation something like it is now.

When you go to a website like wikipedia it's not easy to see multiple relationships through multiple nodes at the same time. This nodeweb solves that problem.

The reason why it's not that important is that the links are easily removed if proven wrong. The more information that is inserted into the web the more "true" the web becomes. Sometimes dead links or dead nodes need to be removed because they were based on false information.

Don't know let's see how it works out. It was fun to make so. ;)

Last Edited by Nuclear on 12/10/2016 06:44 PM
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The main pantheons are Sumerian, Canaanite, Egyptian, Greek, Roman, Indian, and Norse. Then do Islam for fun.
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The missing ones are on the roadmap. Thanks!
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oy vey

enki is not a word in Sumerian

it's en^ki

ki is not read as part of the word, it's a determinate


You want to know about Venus ?

answer this question

What was the symbol used to represent UB the four regions in Sumerian cosmology ?

popcorn
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oy vey

enki is not a word in Sumerian

it's en^ki

ki is not read as part of the word, it's a determinate


You want to know about Venus ?

answer this question

What was the symbol used to represent UB the four regions in Sumerian cosmology ?

popcorn
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Swastika?
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oy vey

enki is not a word in Sumerian

it's en^ki

ki is not read as part of the word, it's a determinate


You want to know about Venus ?

answer this question

What was the symbol used to represent UB the four regions in Sumerian cosmology ?

popcorn
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72946267


Swastika?
 Quoting: Nuclear


no sir, I will give you a hint though





It was the same as Jerusalem's old city seal


popcorn
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Re: Problem with relationship Enki vs Inanna/Ninsianna
here, my friend

Here is the best Sumerian online dictionary available

[link to psd.museum.upenn.edu]

Just type the word you are looking for in the bottom of the page

search for " en "

search for " ki "

Search for " enki "

" enki " is not a proper word in Sumerian and does not exist in any text

It's only " en^ki " { superscript for the determinant }

{ See Sumerian / Akkadian determinates }
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oy vey

enki is not a word in Sumerian

it's en^ki

ki is not read as part of the word, it's a determinate


You want to know about Venus ?

answer this question

What was the symbol used to represent UB the four regions in Sumerian cosmology ?

popcorn
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72946267


Swastika?
 Quoting: Nuclear


no sir, I will give you a hint though





It was the same as Jerusalem's old city seal


popcorn
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this?

[link to www.bbc.com]
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Re: Problem with relationship Enki vs Inanna/Ninsianna
oy vey

enki is not a word in Sumerian

it's en^ki

ki is not read as part of the word, it's a determinate


You want to know about Venus ?

answer this question

What was the symbol used to represent UB the four regions in Sumerian cosmology ?

popcorn
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72946267


Swastika?
 Quoting: Nuclear


no sir, I will give you a hint though





It was the same as Jerusalem's old city seal


popcorn
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It's difficult to find this quick but I do find a lion. But I think it's from the new Jeruzalem.

Or this:
[link to www.breakingisraelnews.com (secure)]

But that was of a King. Will take a further look at it.
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To get as accurate a picture as possible you will really need to go back to primary resources. This means accessing university data bases to gain access to copies of the original documents and engravings. To really do your research you would need to learn ancient languages because otherwise you are relying on someone else's interpretation.

I studied ancient religions at a bachelor degree level and used translated versions of the original inscriptions.

Good luck, it is a massive job.
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no sir, the old city seal for jerusalem was the pentagram

the pentagram was the pre-cuneiform symbol for " UB " which was actually more of a generic mathematical convention used by the high priest who also functioned as the astronomer

I studied too
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well this looks like some kind of flying machine to me.
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Re: Problem with relationship Enki vs Inanna/Ninsianna
To get as accurate a picture as possible you will really need to go back to primary resources. This means accessing university data bases to gain access to copies of the original documents and engravings. To really do your research you would need to learn ancient languages because otherwise you are relying on someone else's interpretation.

I studied ancient religions at a bachelor degree level and used translated versions of the original inscriptions.

Good luck, it is a massive job.
 Quoting: Queen of Swords


That is not really possible in my situation I'm afraid. But I hope by checking multiple sources that I get a good direction and a better view.

Thanks for the tips.
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really what you want to do is learn more about Sumerian mathematical astronomy, which I can teach you if you are interested

As far as understanding the city seal of Jerusalem, you want to first examine the Akkadian name of the city

" Uru-salim "

" Uru " is also a determinate like " ki " { also usually following " ki " and in this case it means the word it follows is a city / province / town

" Uru " originally was a Sumerian word { before it was an Akkadian determinant } that means " flood " and was used to refer to eclipses { Umbral shadow measured in arcminutes using the hands }

" salim " is the Canaanite name for Venus when it is the Evening star

hence " uru -salim " and it's seal of the pentagram, which represented Venus and the pentagram it traces out in the night sky with it's conjunctions



popcorn
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at this point OP, you are gathering info, connecting the dots will come eventually, so just gather and see whatever connections you can make as you go.

finding the info in different places, you'll see that some doesn't exactly match up. just make a note of that and keep going, eventually you'll see which info seems truer for you than others. no need to delete the info you already have as 'false', proven wrong, no! if you do that, you'll be spinning in circles.

it's not like those who told of zeus and aphrodite etc, always compared who was who with earlier accounts and gave all the names that each was known by.

keep digging, keep an open mind, take good notes and you'll discover bit by bit who was who. things eventually start falling into place for ya, and from all your notes together, you'll be able to connect the dots at last.

.
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no sir, the old city seal for jerusalem was the pentagram

the pentagram was the pre-cuneiform symbol for " UB " which was actually more of a generic mathematical convention used by the high priest who also functioned as the astronomer

I studied too
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72946267


Ah alright, the pentagram represents the 5 elements right?

Then what does the new symbol the hexagon shape star mean?

Did they find a 6th element or something? There is this cube inside the symbol. (Metatron's cube). What are they in relationship to the cube?

Keepers of the Cube? Did they imprison the cube?

Questions I hope to find answers to.
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No offense, OP, but it sounds like you're confused because you have studied the writings of people who think words like " enki " and " annunaki " are legitimate words in the Sumerian / Akkadian lexicon, and they just aren't

They are very common misconceptions that have gotten spread in the conspiracy community because people do not fact check { or go deep with their studies }
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Re: Problem with relationship Enki vs Inanna/Ninsianna
really what you want to do is learn more about Sumerian mathematical astronomy, which I can teach you if you are interested

As far as understanding the city seal of Jerusalem, you want to first examine the Akkadian name of the city

" Uru-salim "

" Uru " is also a determinate like " ki " { also usually following " ki " and in this case it means the word it follows is a city / province / town

" Uru " originally was a Sumerian word { before it was an Akkadian determinant } that means " flood " and was used to refer to eclipses { Umbral shadow measured in arcminutes using the hands }

" salim " is the Canaanite name for Venus when it is the Evening star

hence " uru -salim " and it's seal of the pentagram, which represented Venus and the pentagram it traces out in the night sky with it's conjunctions



popcorn
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Would like to know more about the math. Do you have any good info on it?

So Jeruzalem was a Caanite city? Weren't the Caanites descandants of Cain or something?
Uncle Ra

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Re: Problem with relationship Enki vs Inanna/Ninsianna
at this point OP, you are gathering info, connecting the dots will come eventually, so just gather and see whatever connections you can make as you go.

finding the info in different places, you'll see that some doesn't exactly match up. just make a note of that and keep going, eventually you'll see which info seems truer for you than others. no need to delete the info you already have as 'false', proven wrong, no! if you do that, you'll be spinning in circles.

it's not like those who told of zeus and aphrodite etc, always compared who was who with earlier accounts and gave all the names that each was known by.

keep digging, keep an open mind, take good notes and you'll discover bit by bit who was who. things eventually start falling into place for ya, and from all your notes together, you'll be able to connect the dots at last.

.
 Quoting: Dixie Rebel

I hope it works out that way. Thanks for the support!
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Re: Problem with relationship Enki vs Inanna/Ninsianna
no sir, the old city seal for jerusalem was the pentagram

the pentagram was the pre-cuneiform symbol for " UB " which was actually more of a generic mathematical convention used by the high priest who also functioned as the astronomer

I studied too
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72946267


Ah alright, the pentagram represents the 5 elements right?

Then what does the new symbol the hexagon shape star mean?

Did they find a 6th element or something? There is this cube inside the symbol. (Metatron's cube). What are they in relationship to the cube?

Keepers of the Cube? Did they imprison the cube?

Questions I hope to find answers to.
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um...no


Venus conjunctions

You don't know what they are ?
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No offense, OP, but it sounds like you're confused because you have studied the writings of people who think words like " enki " and " annunaki " are legitimate words in the Sumerian / Akkadian lexicon, and they just aren't

They are very common misconceptions that have gotten spread in the conspiracy community because people do not fact check { or go deep with their studies }
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72946267


Maybe a bit, that is why I'm inserting information into the system. Because it's to large for me to comprehent at once.

There will be errors in the nodes in the beginning. But I think when I read more about it more truths and old errors come to light. That is when I'm going to remove old false links and nodes.

It's like shaping clay or making a statue. The truth is the clay, and by connecting the dots I'm shaping the simulated-truth as much as possible can to the real truth.

I hope. :P
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Re: Problem with relationship Enki vs Inanna/Ninsianna
really what you want to do is learn more about Sumerian mathematical astronomy, which I can teach you if you are interested

As far as understanding the city seal of Jerusalem, you want to first examine the Akkadian name of the city

" Uru-salim "

" Uru " is also a determinate like " ki " { also usually following " ki " and in this case it means the word it follows is a city / province / town

" Uru " originally was a Sumerian word { before it was an Akkadian determinant } that means " flood " and was used to refer to eclipses { Umbral shadow measured in arcminutes using the hands }

" salim " is the Canaanite name for Venus when it is the Evening star

hence " uru -salim " and it's seal of the pentagram, which represented Venus and the pentagram it traces out in the night sky with it's conjunctions



popcorn
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Would like to know more about the math. Do you have any good info on it?

So Jeruzalem was a Caanite city? Weren't the Caanites descandants of Cain or something?
 Quoting: Nuclear





Yes, I the only person on the planet in possession of the ancient mathematical secrets of the Sumerian priesthood

You would need to study some languages and tradition before I would get into math with you { I have my own website for that topic }

I need my students to have some proper educational foundation before I can teach them
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no sir, the old city seal for jerusalem was the pentagram

the pentagram was the pre-cuneiform symbol for " UB " which was actually more of a generic mathematical convention used by the high priest who also functioned as the astronomer

I studied too
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72946267


Ah alright, the pentagram represents the 5 elements right?

Then what does the new symbol the hexagon shape star mean?

Did they find a 6th element or something? There is this cube inside the symbol. (Metatron's cube). What are they in relationship to the cube?

Keepers of the Cube? Did they imprison the cube?

Questions I hope to find answers to.
 Quoting: Nuclear




um...no


Venus conjunctions

You don't know what they are ?
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Nope, not yet. I'm a programmer in my normal life :P

Last Edited by Nuclear on 12/10/2016 04:58 PM
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Yes, I the only person on the planet in possession of the ancient mathematical secrets of the Sumerian priesthood

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Hey retards, go out in the real world and connect the dots.
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Re: Problem with relationship Enki vs Inanna/Ninsianna
really what you want to do is learn more about Sumerian mathematical astronomy, which I can teach you if you are interested

As far as understanding the city seal of Jerusalem, you want to first examine the Akkadian name of the city

" Uru-salim "

" Uru " is also a determinate like " ki " { also usually following " ki " and in this case it means the word it follows is a city / province / town

" Uru " originally was a Sumerian word { before it was an Akkadian determinant } that means " flood " and was used to refer to eclipses { Umbral shadow measured in arcminutes using the hands }

" salim " is the Canaanite name for Venus when it is the Evening star

hence " uru -salim " and it's seal of the pentagram, which represented Venus and the pentagram it traces out in the night sky with it's conjunctions



popcorn
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Would like to know more about the math. Do you have any good info on it?

So Jeruzalem was a Caanite city? Weren't the Caanites descandants of Cain or something?
 Quoting: Nuclear





Yes, I the only person on the planet in possession of the ancient mathematical secrets of the Sumerian priesthood

You would need to study some languages and tradition before I would get into math with you { I have my own website for that topic }

I need my students to have some proper educational foundation before I can teach them
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Alright, I'm a technical person and languages are not my main but ok. Do I read about it on your website?
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you need to at least be familiar with topics / terminologies like :

baratu / extispicy { done during cycles needing mathematical astronomy }

and offices like

en
en^ki
en^lil
ensi
ensik
lugal
belu

etc

{ These are minus the diacritical marks }


Good luck with your studies !

Make sure you stick to databases like the ePSD and the ETCSL

Otherwise you will never understand the languages
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Re: Problem with relationship Enki vs Inanna/Ninsianna
you need to at least be familiar with topics / terminologies like :

baratu / extispicy { done during cycles needing mathematical astronomy }

and offices like

en
en^ki
en^lil
ensi
ensik
lugal
belu

etc

{ These are minus the diacritical marks }


Good luck with your studies !

Make sure you stick to databases like the ePSD and the ETCSL

Otherwise you will never understand the languages
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72946267


Alright that will take some time but I'll take a look at it. Thanks for your help!
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OP is trying to understand. We were all new at this, remember.

OP just relax. What is important for you to know, you'll find out as you go along. 'Enki' has several names, several spellings, as do they all, depending on which text you are reading. Doesn't make one any more right than another.

You can just keep track of the different spellings and names, and put the type you found in parenthesis.

These are just some of the notes I found:
For example:

Enki (Sumerian) aka the EN.KI 'lord of earth', EA, Ea 'he whose home is water' (Sumerian, Babylonian), Hea, NU-DIM-MUD 'he who fashions things', Nudimmud, Nudumud, Sama.El 'serpent god' (Akkadian), Lucifer (Bible), Neptune, Poseidon (Greek).

and etc.
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Yes, I the only person on the planet in possession of the ancient mathematical secrets of the Sumerian priesthood

You would need to study some languages and tradition before I would get into math with you { I have my own website for that topic }

I need my students to have some proper educational foundation before I can teach them
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Say what? The only person on the planet in possession of those secrets, eh?

Yeah ok.. Who taught them to you?

.





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