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At what point does survivalism become insurgency?

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Sniper Tactics
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2/3/2007 7:58 PM
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At what point does survivalism become insurgency?

I'm fairly well trained in survival although I'm no survivalist. The biggest change I have made to my life is to move into a low-density population zone that would even my odds a little. I read up on here on some of the survival related posts to stay up to speed but this is a question that is starting to irk me about the survival principle.

Take this as a generic scenario. There's an event, it's big enough for martial law to be declared. The army are coming to your door, they're going to disarm you, they're going to ship you to a 'rescue centre' for your own safety. They have 'work' that needs to be done and you'll be forming the working party.

It's not such an unbelievable scenario.

So at what point does Survivalism become Insurgency? What if you don't want to go to the rescue centre thanks very much, what if your wife and kids are sent to a different centre? Or what if your wife and college kids were elsewhere when the 'event' happened and you and they can't travel?

Is the rule to follow authority? Or to make your own judgement calls? Or is the idea to head for the hills and hideout away from all this kinda business?

Anonymous Coward
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2/3/2007 8:01 PM

Re: At what point does survivalism become insurgency?

i'd tell them that my rescue center job involves them sucking my fat knob. i dont think that a military-type situation and those involved would understand the risk to themselves and would underestimate how people would react to being told what to do, especialy if it involved being out of their comfort zone.

we may be in a more "do as i say" time of life, but more people nowadays hold their own and make a fuss, and stand up for what they believe in

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12/14/2008 1:19 AM

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Anonymous Coward
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4/27/2009 6:04 PM

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The actions of this government have proven them to be illegitimate and criminal. It's my opinion that they will "rule" this country as long as they can send men with guns to your door.

My suggestion: Keep well-stocked, be well-informed, refuse vaccinations* and simply make yourself scarce. I can't say that last item enough. They can't question you, arrest you (for "protection") or steal your assets if they can't find you!!!

* Be prepared to produce false documents saying you've already had shots. Be prepared for show-n-tell with gauze taped to your arm (with tiny red dot in center).

Anonymous Coward
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4/27/2009 6:23 PM

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When they start sending armed men door to door, they have lost control. They dont want this anymore than you do.

Carlin said it best. You have the freedom to choose a million different flavors a bubble gum. But what you can do with money and healthcare and anything important are taken care of for you.....thats where were heading. Credits instead of dollars, RFID "health" devices that monitor your every move , etc etc. But it will all be for your own good and the good of the collective "team" "culture" "government". 1984....Logans Run.

Dont let it happen. [link to www.revolutionarywararchives.org]

Anonymous Coward
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4/27/2009 6:38 PM

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Depends on how much oil you are standing on.

Anonymous Coward
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4/27/2009 6:57 PM

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11/2/2009 10:38 PM

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Jesus said ..."You will know them by the fruits they bear..." Trust your gut instincts! SHOOT 2KILL! FUCK Dat Split Da Family Up,Hister=Hitler style B.S.! If you make it out,Dead or Alive...You'll Have Moved Mankind2 a HIGHER LEVEL! And Yourself and loved onez!*

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11/2/2009 10:42 PM

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"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey, he is obligated to do so." -Thomas Jefferson An interesting trivia (that I am not advocating in any way) is that what all military men fear most is a non-explosive booby trap. Slayer of Trolls Killer of Threads zeroglp@gmail.com

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11/2/2009 10:52 PM

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Here's a rainy-day resource: [link to www.roguesci.org] Get it while you can. Download everything in sight and make lots of copies for your friends. Ask them to make copies and distribute. You get the idea. You'll need this material -- sooner or later. Most likely sooner. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 536970 I clicked on the link. It's been taken down.

Anonymous Coward
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11/3/2009 9:10 PM

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well first you need some faciscts . .

Anonymous Coward
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11/6/2009 4:13 PM

Re: At what point does survivalism become insurgency?

I'm fairly well trained in survival although I'm no survivalist. The biggest change I have made to my life is to move into a low-density population zone that would even my odds a little. I read up on here on some of the survival related posts to stay up to speed but this is a question that is starting to irk me about the survival principle.

Take this as a generic scenario. There's an event, it's big enough for martial law to be declared. The army are coming to your door, they're going to disarm you, they're going to ship you to a 'rescue centre' for your own safety. They have 'work' that needs to be done and you'll be forming the working party.

It's not such an unbelievable scenario.

So at what point does Survivalism become Insurgency? What if you don't want to go to the rescue centre thanks very much, what if your wife and kids are sent to a different centre? Or what if your wife and college kids were elsewhere when the 'event' happened and you and they can't travel?

Is the rule to follow authority? Or to make your own judgement calls? Or is the idea to head for the hills and hideout away from all this kinda business?

Quoting: Sniper Tactics 163909

Hmmm... Well, I guess a lot depends upon "the event" leading to martial law. Is there a real threat to the nation, to your region, to your family? I'd definitely always trust my own judgement over any government decree. So, let's assume, based on the tone of your inquiry, you've used your own judgement and decided that the answer is clearly "no", there is no real danger and your help is not needed.

Then the questions become, do you have the opportunity to leave? To travel? To stay in your home? Are you on someone's "list" which may be the REAL cause of martial law in the first place (sounds a little paranoid, I know, but there are quite a few innocent people on "lists" since 9/11). If you have good reason to believe you are on a "list", have you prepared some way to escape from your home unseen? Again, I know how paranoid that sounds, but how long now have some detainees been held at Gitmo or by our military or intelligence agencies? I never thought I'd live to see such an egregious breach of civil liberties in this country.

I'm no military expert or survivalist, but I know enough about human nature to know that no matter how many "soldiers" or "agents" appear at your door, you are usually only dealing with one: the leader of the pack. Just like with canines.

Sorry, I can't resist a little fun here:

Presuming you're NOT on a "list", just part of a general roundup, they're not going to want to shoot you. And how much trouble do they really want to go to for one person? So when you answer the door and see them, how about a response like:

a) "Listen, buddy, the word's already out about you gangs of looters and robbers running around dressed like American soldiers. Well, you don't fool me for one minute! You traitors are a disgrace to this country and you ought to be lined up in front of a firing squad and SHOT, which is EXACTLY what's going to happen if you set one foot inside THIS American's door!" SLAM!
... or...
b) "Dammit to hell, will you PLEASE tell Jack that I'm fed up with his practical jokes! This is the second time this week. JACK, IT'S NOT FUNNY ANYMORE!! I'M NOT LAUGHING!! If you boys are so determined to get your jollies this way, why don't you scamper over there to Abdul's house -- you'd probably scare the p*** out of that camel jock!" SLAM!

But if you ARE on a list, well, then the question becomes are you in the "wanted dead or alive" category? You're no good to anyone "dead", there's no chance for escape if you're "dead", no chance to beat the charges if you're "dead", so you probably want to eliminate the "dead" category by very subtly, without incriminating yourself, creating a little interest in what kind of information you might possibly have (or might somehow be relaying), so that the leader will instruct his men not to get too trigger-happy. For example:
"You're who? I'm what? Wow, this must be a mistake but... all right, sir. Why did you bring, five, six, seven men to arrest a little guy like me? Who do you think I am? By the way, which direction did you fellows come from? I didn't hear you drive up. I thought you always drove black sedans, not gray ones. Did you happen to pass St. Andrews Church on the way here? I know the pastor there. Where are we going, anyway? Are we going to take the Old Swamp Road or the bypass?" etc. etc.

Sorry -- just a little silliness that occurred to me while pondering this question...

rebecca

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