Foreign USTreasury Bond dumping continues, and even accelerates. | |
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Kingman-Art (OP) User ID: 73022437 United States 12/12/2016 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It depends on what is happening in the FOREX market. It is a hair-cut problem for the world. You sell your bonds taking some kind of haircut and then take the cash and try to move into the PM's without changing the market. Kind of like playing russiam roulette with a bolt action rifle. |
Digital mix guy User ID: 73529789 United States 12/12/2016 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The crossover for the cup and handle for the 10 yr bonds says it all. Quoting: Kingman-Art It's the reason why gold and Dow are going in the same direction. Lump of coal in the planet earth stocking. [link to www.gold-eagle.com] Have no fear, Spock is here!!! LLAP |
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DuckNCover User ID: 73597061 United States 12/13/2016 12:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the article, the biggest sellers of T-Bonds are China and Saudi Arabia.... Enough said, they are dumping them because Trump could cause a trade war with China and expose the House of Saud in the 911 attacks. Also, there was a court ruling that American citizens can sue the House of Saud for Terrorist attacks. So both countries are just retaliating... IMO, the sell off of T-Bonds by these countries does not reflect the American Economic future.... |
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CitizenPerth User ID: 66515138 Australia 12/13/2016 12:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hey man, ltns ;) It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73596098 United States 12/13/2016 01:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the article, the biggest sellers of T-Bonds are China and Saudi Arabia.... Quoting: DuckNCover Enough said, they are dumping them because Trump could cause a trade war with China and expose the House of Saud in the 911 attacks. Also, there was a court ruling that American citizens can sue the House of Saud for Terrorist attacks. So both countries are just retaliating... IMO, the sell off of T-Bonds by these countries does not reflect the American Economic future.... They dump cause Trump is a Russian agent and US government will implode and become worthless. |
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Garufal User ID: 71592440 United States 12/13/2016 01:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lol It cost to live....think about that. 'It cost to live' WHO'S FUCKING IDEA WAS THAT? I WAN'T A DO OVER. A epiphany I had watering my lawn one day. "Karma is the universal judicial system that NOBODY is Immune from" -Me I LOVE good juicy gossip. Lay it on me. |
UseLessRepEATER User ID: 73581519 United States 12/13/2016 02:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The crossover for the cup and handle for the 10 yr bonds says it all. Quoting: Kingman-Art It's the reason why gold and Dow are going in the same direction. WHAT the fuck you talkin about, Willis?? DOW is UP, gold is DOWN!!! . Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies..... Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. ~H. L. Mencken~ We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. ~Plato~ When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic. ~Dresden James~ |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6101009 Philippines 12/13/2016 04:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the article, the biggest sellers of T-Bonds are China and Saudi Arabia.... Quoting: DuckNCover Enough said, they are dumping them because Trump could cause a trade war with China and expose the House of Saud in the 911 attacks. Also, there was a court ruling that American citizens can sue the House of Saud for Terrorist attacks. So both countries are just retaliating... IMO, the sell off of T-Bonds by these countries does not reflect the American Economic future.... The good news is that foreigners only own 1/3 of US debt. The bad news is the other 2/3 are owned by US interests "$5.3 trillion is held by government trust funds such as Social Security, $5.1 trillion is held by individuals, pension funds and state and local governments and the remaining $2.5 trillion is held by the Federal Reserve. " [link to money.cnn.com] The really bad news is that Trump floated a plan to pay back the debt at 85 cents on the dollar! Make Americans Pay Again! No one would ever buy that crap again at any yield. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6101009 Philippines 12/13/2016 04:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the article, the biggest sellers of T-Bonds are China and Saudi Arabia.... Quoting: DuckNCover Enough said, they are dumping them because Trump could cause a trade war with China and expose the House of Saud in the 911 attacks. Also, there was a court ruling that American citizens can sue the House of Saud for Terrorist attacks. So both countries are just retaliating... IMO, the sell off of T-Bonds by these countries does not reflect the American Economic future.... The good news is that foreigners only own 1/3 of US debt. The bad news is the other 2/3 are owned by US interests "$5.3 trillion is held by government trust funds such as Social Security, $5.1 trillion is held by individuals, pension funds and state and local governments and the remaining $2.5 trillion is held by the Federal Reserve. " [link to money.cnn.com] The really bad news is that Trump floated a plan to pay back the debt at 85 cents on the dollar! Make Americans Pay Again! No one would ever buy that crap again at any yield. Forgot to mention. US can just speed up the printing presses and inflate the currency to pay off the debt and the frogs would never know they were being boiled. So Trump is really a dumbass to not understand that basic monetary principle. Even a dumbass non billionaire like me understood that (and I do not have 50 Goldman Suchs advisers) so the fact that Trump dint proves he is a vacuous actor. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73261229 United States 12/13/2016 05:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the article, the biggest sellers of T-Bonds are China and Saudi Arabia.... Quoting: DuckNCover Enough said, they are dumping them because Trump could cause a trade war with China and expose the House of Saud in the 911 attacks. Also, there was a court ruling that American citizens can sue the House of Saud for Terrorist attacks. So both countries are just retaliating... IMO, the sell off of T-Bonds by these countries does not reflect the American Economic future.... Saudis and China were planning to dump bonds long before Trump was even a candidate. Stop with the revisionist history. The reasons you cite are orchestrated PR cover stories for decisions made long ago. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72976876 United States 12/13/2016 05:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | we should close the borders and be self sufficient and not trade with any foriegn country that does not invest in T-bonds to the tune of half their GDP... or at least a quarter to start as a buy in. we will take the world over in a heavy handed swing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72976876 United States 12/13/2016 05:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | we should close the borders and be self sufficient and not trade with any foriegn country that does not invest in T-bonds to the tune of half their GDP... or at least a quarter to start as a buy in. we will take the world over in a heavy handed swing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72976876 but the commitment needs to be half within 10 years or so |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6101009 Philippines 12/13/2016 05:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | we should close the borders and be self sufficient and not trade with any foriegn country that does not invest in T-bonds to the tune of half their GDP... or at least a quarter to start as a buy in. we will take the world over in a heavy handed swing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72976876 don't forget to stamp 666 on everyone's forhead |
hankie Everything User ID: 71719409 United States 12/13/2016 06:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the article, the biggest sellers of T-Bonds are China and Saudi Arabia.... Quoting: DuckNCover Enough said, they are dumping them because Trump could cause a trade war with China and expose the House of Saud in the 911 attacks. Also, there was a court ruling that American citizens can sue the House of Saud for Terrorist attacks. So both countries are just retaliating... IMO, the sell off of T-Bonds by these countries does not reflect the American Economic future.... Saudis and China were planning to dump bonds long before Trump was even a candidate. Stop with the revisionist history. The reasons you cite are orchestrated PR cover stories for decisions made long ago. I am guessing there are people here that did not read the over all world economies health warning. We are in a depression that started in 2008. What happened at the top is not what is happening to everyone, these people took advantage of the economy and padded their pockets, most of these people do not have a normal company or corporation. They are banker and economist, and they caused the problem. These people have not felt the pain that is coming to them. You want to know why the worlds people are feed up, it this, those people have build a overlord system and it down right evil. They have controlled everything down to the news you get. If you are make money fine, but there are many who have lost everything, including livelihoods. It has always been unstable way to do business. There is a chance we can come out of this, with populist ideas, it has trade, and not as many wars, which is a drain on any economy not a help. There are some very evil people out there at the top, also what appears to be not so bright, there are more of us, than there are of them. Remember those bailout, they were not helping the people, they helped the ones that caused it. EU is a large part of the problem. Their ideas and plans have become a big problem, they did this and their payback is coming home to roost. It really is the monetary problem they set up, but do not seem to want to fix it, it may take their power away. That is it, their power they want power. They need to become men and woman like normal people. I do not love money, I need money to live because of the system they created. It a horrible system. They created a caste system as is in INDIA. Sorry I got a headache These are the times that tries men's and women's souls! May we come though it victorious! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71009733 United States 12/13/2016 07:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the article, the biggest sellers of T-Bonds are China and Saudi Arabia.... Quoting: DuckNCover Enough said, they are dumping them because Trump could cause a trade war with China and expose the House of Saud in the 911 attacks. Also, there was a court ruling that American citizens can sue the House of Saud for Terrorist attacks. So both countries are just retaliating... IMO, the sell off of T-Bonds by these countries does not reflect the American Economic future.... The good news is that foreigners only own 1/3 of US debt. The bad news is the other 2/3 are owned by US interests "$5.3 trillion is held by government trust funds such as Social Security, $5.1 trillion is held by individuals, pension funds and state and local governments and the remaining $2.5 trillion is held by the Federal Reserve. " [link to money.cnn.com] The really bad news is that Trump floated a plan to pay back the debt at 85 cents on the dollar! Make Americans Pay Again! No one would ever buy that crap again at any yield. Forgot to mention. US can just speed up the printing presses and inflate the currency to pay off the debt and the frogs would never know they were being boiled. So Trump is really a dumbass to not understand that basic monetary principle. Even a dumbass non billionaire like me understood that (and I do not have 50 Goldman Suchs advisers) so the fact that Trump dint proves he is a vacuous actor. Of course trump understands devaluation. Don't be that Moran |
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