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Yesterday I stumbled upon a story about the differences of gnosticism and luciferianism.

In the end there was a point about gnosticism which got my thought:

According to gnostics:

The demiurge(Jehovah) created this universe and declared himself God because he didn't know he wasn't the only one. His mother, Sophia, created him and was so embarrassed by him that she put him in a vacuum-like area. So he himself was all he could see. He thought he was God. He thought he just sprang forth from nothing and was all-powerful.

[link to gnostic-unrest.blogspot.nl]

Now I was thinking about why Jehovah being evil. Because for as far as I see Sophia created something she did not like. As a result of her failure she locked Jehovah up in the closet without attention.

So he did not even know there was anybody else.

Now how can Jehovah be evil by doing something out of utter ignorance. Because his mother locked him up in the void?

Does anybody know what Jehovah did to deserve this? Because in the end the only emotion I feel from this story towards Jehovah is pity. And the one committed the evil deed was from this story Sophia because she hated her own creation and decided to lock it away from everything beautiful.

And imagine being Jehovah, being in that void forever. Can you blame him for creating company?

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Holy phuck this is stupid

Harry Potter nonsense

If Sophia is jehovas mother, who is the father? Bruce Jenner?
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Look at the atom. God is experiencing his self at all levels from alpha yo omega. X wants to know. Why is there a snag in the line? I gold back into myself now
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I thought is was Sophia who has been locked up, buried, hidden, having been robbed of her wholeness.
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Dual worlds. Our world's we are both the enemy. That's why she attacks in the Vaseline
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"The root of the human malaise and `alien' dillemma appears to stem from the creation stories of The Gnostics. Following the Aeon's/Gods' creation of the blueprint of the Atu Kadmon (human design) Sophia, as the Goddess/Mother of humanity separated from Christos (God/Father) to gaze upon this spectacular creation of light and life which they had created. She literally `fell' in love with her offspring (located in Orion) and fell from `heaven'.

As she travelled, with increasing speed through the atmosphere, an impact occurred, causing a rupture in her energy field, a kind of abortion, before she melded into Earth/Gaia. This abortion, an inorganic form, was/is imbued with intelligence and thought itself `God' of the Universe. It was/is The Chief Archon named Yaldaboath which spawned many offspring from itself. Sophia challenged this abortion, pointing out that `the child of light' was already created before it and was her true child. This is what we are, born of the essence and combination of the Aeons and Gods; not in their image but with our own self-determination.

These Archons cannot create life and contain the original jealousy of sibling rivalry, for we live in the body of their Mother who ejected/rejected them. Being inorganic, the power lies in invading our minds with toxic thoughtforms, that we may become like them as they cannot attain what we are. These toxic forms of energy can materialise in the form of reptiles/serpents/aliens and appear to be manifested with the aid of human blood and fear. This Yaldaboath is the jewish/christian/islamic YHWH or Jehovah, that jealous psychotic maniac of the old Testament,The Talmud and elswhere. A jealous god indeed; a lesser god, certainly.

Tracking back to Babylon/Sumer/Egypt, relics are found with serpent spells (either for protection or invocation) and the religions spawned from this Demiurge, all seek power outside the Self and all call for salvation from 'sin'. The Zaddikim of the Middle East, worshiped this serpent deity, as do the Hassidic as well as their offshoot religions; albeit unwittingly, as they pray to `god'. It is a lie. We were created in perfection and this abortion is a parasite, seeking to destroy us out of deep hatred and jealousy and take our place on Earth, our Mother. Not that it minds much whether the planet is destroyed in the process.

It is said that Yaldaboath DID create a heaven and Earth but these were swiftly destroyed. We are given the lie that he created our Earth and the heavens, such is his delusion.

As this effluence cannot create a human, it has mutated, distorted and corrupted mankind and continues to do so.

Certain elements of humanity appear to be particularly pre-disposed to utter betrayal of their rightful kin and this is probably due to ancient manipulation/infiltration of the DNA matrix of consciousness. The presence and reality of The Archons is strengthened and supported through ritual and such rituals as Crowley and others still perform, through child sacrafice and sexual torture, grounds their presence in our reality in an increasingly powerful way. There are many of `the serpent people' amongst us and one only need observe the insanity of hisss-story (mostly lies) and our current crisis to see the evidence of how mankind has been overshadowed and devolved into nihilistic barbarism.

Betrayal also lies within the masses through blind beliefs in these religions or psuedo scientific doctrines such as Darwinism,Hawkinism and all the other isms and schisms which cloud the truth and widsom within - if only it were sought!

As the Earth is turned into a massive abbittoir for animals and humans with fear and terror mounting, The Archons are completely in control; mind control. Their insane agents are too numerous and obvious to mention.

The masses numb out in response or become more deeply entranched within divisive be-lie-f systems instead of realising the obvious truth. The obvious truth is that we, as an Earth human familiy branch, connected to the Universal Human Family Tree are indeed choosing destruction through complicit Free Will. Is ignorance bliss? This is probably one of the questions our ET cousins amongst us and off-planet are asking us to consider. Universal protocol does not permit interference, for we have the power - far more power than these pesky Archons, our immortal Arch Enemies!

Oh, but they tricked the weak forbearers into be-lie-ving they were 'special' were `chosen' by this false god to have power and dominion over their brothers and sisters - masculine ego run riot! Hence the rape of Earth, the rape of women and the rape of the feminine expression through the merciless exploitation of factory farming, cloning and cyborging us out of existence.

As apparently, this Archonic miasm is intrinsic to Human and Earth history, it's been with us from the start. Yet, we can take heart, for Sophia says to Yaldaboath when he declares himself god over all "no, the child of light was before you and shall rule over you!".

For the past 10-12,000 years, Earth and humanity have been wandering in the shadows, as Earth turned away in her cycle from the Galactic centre of light. Human DNA's power source was diminished greatly. During this time, The Archons have had a field day, in preparation for these times when we return to full activation; hence the frenetic rush to freeze/devolve the specie at this time. The maniacs to whom we have relinquished our power, through millenia of victimhood, are getting very careless as they `think it's in the bag'. Overall, I tend to agree that it looks that way, with most people still choosing to plug into their media-controlled matrix and bleat programmed mantras rather than think.

But these times hold the key to tremendous opportunity for all out liberation. Our original blueprint is coded for creative liberation; we are made of the stuff that spawns galaxies. We are part of a huge human family throughout the Galaxy and perhaps beyond. Our brothers and sisters await us as the cosmic clock spirals into a defining moment. Although the temperature for myself and others grew intolerable long ago, the rising heat may trigger the codes for many more and shake these bastards off, once and for all. They're heading for the Abyss from which they came and it is a burning question of choice as to who goes with them. Let us vision the paradise paradigm and make that our reality."
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Holy phuck this is stupid

Harry Potter nonsense

If Sophia is jehovas mother, who is the father? Bruce Jenner?
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I thought is was Sophia who has been locked up, buried, hidden, having been robbed of her wholeness.
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So you are saying the source is wrong?
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"Gnostics. Following the Aeon's/Gods' creation of the blueprint of the Atu Kadmon (human design) Sophia, as the Goddess/Mother of humanity separated from Christos (God/Father) to gaze upon this spectacular creation of light and life which they had created. She literally `fell' in love with her offspring (located in Orion) and fell from `heaven'.

As she travelled, with increasing speed through the atmosphere, an impact occurred, causing a rupture in her energy field, a kind of abortion, before she melded into Earth/Gaia. This abortion, an inorganic form, was/is imbued with intelligence and thought itself `God' of the Universe. It was/is The Chief Archon named Yaldaboath which spawned many offspring from itself. Sophia challenged this abortion, pointing out that `the child of light' was already created before it and was her true child. This is what we are, born of the essence and combination of the Aeons and Gods; not in their image but with our own self-determination.

These Archons cannot create life and contain the original jealousy of sibling rivalry, for we live in the body of their Mother who ejected/rejected them. Being inorganic, the power lies in invading our minds with toxic thoughtforms, that we may become like them as they cannot attain what we are. These toxic forms of energy can materialise in the form of reptiles/serpents/aliens and appear to be manifested with the aid of human blood and fear. This Yaldaboath is the jewish/christian/islamic YHWH or Jehovah, that jealous psychotic maniac of the old Testament,The Talmud and elswhere. A jealous god indeed; a lesser god, certainly.

Tracking back to Babylon/Sumer/Egypt, relics are found with serpent spells (either for protection or invocation) and the religions spawned from this Demiurge, all seek power outside the Self and all call for salvation from 'sin'. The Zaddikim of the Middle East, worshiped this serpent deity, as do the Hassidic as well as their offshoot religions; albeit unwittingly, as they pray to `god'. It is a lie. We were created in perfection and this abortion is a parasite, seeking to destroy us out of deep hatred and jealousy and take our place on Earth, our Mother. Not that it minds much whether the planet is destroyed in the process.

It is said that Yaldaboath DID create a heaven and Earth but these were swiftly destroyed. We are given the lie that he created our Earth and the heavens, such is his delusion.

As this effluence cannot create a human, it has mutated, distorted and corrupted mankind and continues to do so.

Certain elements of humanity appear to be particularly pre-disposed to utter betrayal of their rightful kin and this is probably due to ancient manipulation/infiltration of the DNA matrix of consciousness. The presence and reality of The Archons is strengthened and supported through ritual and such rituals as Crowley and others still perform, through child sacrafice and sexual torture, grounds their presence in our reality in an increasingly powerful way. There are many of `the serpent people' amongst us and one only need observe the insanity of hisss-story (mostly lies) and our current crisis to see the evidence of how mankind has been overshadowed and devolved into nihilistic barbarism.

Betrayal also lies within the masses through blind beliefs in these religions or psuedo scientific doctrines such as Darwinism,Hawkinism and all the other isms and schisms which cloud the truth and widsom within - if only it were sought!

As the Earth is turned into a massive abbittoir for animals and humans with fear and terror mounting, The Archons are completely in control; mind control. Their insane agents are too numerous and obvious to mention.

The masses numb out in response or become more deeply entranched within divisive be-lie-f systems instead of realising the obvious truth. The obvious truth is that we, as an Earth human familiy branch, connected to the Universal Human Family Tree are indeed choosing destruction through complicit Free Will. Is ignorance bliss? This is probably one of the questions our ET cousins amongst us and off-planet are asking us to consider. Universal protocol does not permit interference, for we have the power - far more power than these pesky Archons, our immortal Arch Enemies!

Oh, but they tricked the weak forbearers into be-lie-ving they were 'special' were `chosen' by this false god to have power and dominion over their brothers and sisters - masculine ego run riot! Hence the rape of Earth, the rape of women and the rape of the feminine expression through the merciless exploitation of factory farming, cloning and cyborging us out of existence.

As apparently, this Archonic miasm is intrinsic to Human and Earth history, it's been with us from the start. Yet, we can take heart, for Sophia says to Yaldaboath when he declares himself god over all "no, the child of light was before you and shall rule over you!".

For the past 10-12,000 years, Earth and humanity have been wandering in the shadows, as Earth turned away in her cycle from the Galactic centre of light. Human DNA's power source was diminished greatly. During this time, The Archons have had a field day, in preparation for these times when we return to full activation; hence the frenetic rush to freeze/devolve the specie at this time. The maniacs to whom we have relinquished our power, through millenia of victimhood, are getting very careless as they `think it's in the bag'. Overall, I tend to agree that it looks that way, with most people still choosing to plug into their media-controlled matrix and bleat programmed mantras rather than think.

But these times hold the key to tremendous opportunity for all out liberation. Our original blueprint is coded for creative liberation; we are made of the stuff that spawns galaxies. We are part of a huge human family throughout the Galaxy and perhaps beyond. Our brothers and sisters await us as the cosmic clock spirals into a defining moment. Although the temperature for myself and others grew intolerable long ago, the rising heat may trigger the codes for many more and shake these bastards off, once and for all. They're heading for the Abyss from which they came and it is a burning question of choice as to who goes with them. Let us vision the paradise paradigm and make that our reality."
 Quoting: NewEarth 5D 73603427


Thanks for the information. Do you have any source if this or did you find it out yourself?
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Re: Gnostics think Jehovah is evil
The meaning of 4 letters in Hebrew (Jehovah) is:
- I'm who I'm.
What does it mean?
- Changeling or Werewolf: the creature changing its shape.
Remember transformation of so called g-d who made miracles before Moses.

You still doubt?
See the signature under the Covenant: [link to esocenter.ru]
21 letters in Hebrew translated into English will explain you who is the Pet Goat.
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There are many many different types of "Gnostics". The term is a MISNOMER.

The term means knowing or knowledge. This is like saying people with knowledge think that Jehova (God) is evil.

I know EXACTLY about the heretical "Gnosticism" you're talking about, so don't get me wrong. I'm not arguing with you, the info you say is true. You're talking about like a Luciferian Gnosticism.

I am a Gnostic Christian though. That means that I believe in knowledge from God. Part of that knowledge is contained in the Gnostic gospels, like List is Sophia, Gospel of Thomas, Book of Enoch, and of course THE HOLY BIBLE!

Nothing in these other books will contradict the Bible. If in case it does, stick with the Bible, but chances are you're interpreting it wrong.

To me Sophia is an angel, as described in the Bible. Sophia means wisdom. Wisdom is described as a female in the Bible.
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"Gnostics. Following the Aeon's/Gods' creation of the blueprint of the Atu Kadmon (human design) Sophia, as the Goddess/Mother of humanity separated from Christos (God/Father) to gaze upon this spectacular creation of light and life which they had created. She literally `fell' in love with her offspring (located in Orion) and fell from `heaven'.

As she travelled, with increasing speed through the atmosphere, an impact occurred, causing a rupture in her energy field, a kind of abortion, before she melded into Earth/Gaia. This abortion, an inorganic form, was/is imbued with intelligence and thought itself `God' of the Universe. It was/is The Chief Archon named Yaldaboath which spawned many offspring from itself. Sophia challenged this abortion, pointing out that `the child of light' was already created before it and was her true child. This is what we are, born of the essence and combination of the Aeons and Gods; not in their image but with our own self-determination.

These Archons cannot create life and contain the original jealousy of sibling rivalry, for we live in the body of their Mother who ejected/rejected them. Being inorganic, the power lies in invading our minds with toxic thoughtforms, that we may become like them as they cannot attain what we are. These toxic forms of energy can materialise in the form of reptiles/serpents/aliens and appear to be manifested with the aid of human blood and fear. This Yaldaboath is the jewish/christian/islamic YHWH or Jehovah, that jealous psychotic maniac of the old Testament,The Talmud and elswhere. A jealous god indeed; a lesser god, certainly.

Tracking back to Babylon/Sumer/Egypt, relics are found with serpent spells (either for protection or invocation) and the religions spawned from this Demiurge, all seek power outside the Self and all call for salvation from 'sin'. The Zaddikim of the Middle East, worshiped this serpent deity, as do the Hassidic as well as their offshoot religions; albeit unwittingly, as they pray to `god'. It is a lie. We were created in perfection and this abortion is a parasite, seeking to destroy us out of deep hatred and jealousy and take our place on Earth, our Mother. Not that it minds much whether the planet is destroyed in the process.

It is said that Yaldaboath DID create a heaven and Earth but these were swiftly destroyed. We are given the lie that he created our Earth and the heavens, such is his delusion.

As this effluence cannot create a human, it has mutated, distorted and corrupted mankind and continues to do so.

Certain elements of humanity appear to be particularly pre-disposed to utter betrayal of their rightful kin and this is probably due to ancient manipulation/infiltration of the DNA matrix of consciousness. The presence and reality of The Archons is strengthened and supported through ritual and such rituals as Crowley and others still perform, through child sacrafice and sexual torture, grounds their presence in our reality in an increasingly powerful way. There are many of `the serpent people' amongst us and one only need observe the insanity of hisss-story (mostly lies) and our current crisis to see the evidence of how mankind has been overshadowed and devolved into nihilistic barbarism.

Betrayal also lies within the masses through blind beliefs in these religions or psuedo scientific doctrines such as Darwinism,Hawkinism and all the other isms and schisms which cloud the truth and widsom within - if only it were sought!

As the Earth is turned into a massive abbittoir for animals and humans with fear and terror mounting, The Archons are completely in control; mind control. Their insane agents are too numerous and obvious to mention.

The masses numb out in response or become more deeply entranched within divisive be-lie-f systems instead of realising the obvious truth. The obvious truth is that we, as an Earth human familiy branch, connected to the Universal Human Family Tree are indeed choosing destruction through complicit Free Will. Is ignorance bliss? This is probably one of the questions our ET cousins amongst us and off-planet are asking us to consider. Universal protocol does not permit interference, for we have the power - far more power than these pesky Archons, our immortal Arch Enemies!

Oh, but they tricked the weak forbearers into be-lie-ving they were 'special' were `chosen' by this false god to have power and dominion over their brothers and sisters - masculine ego run riot! Hence the rape of Earth, the rape of women and the rape of the feminine expression through the merciless exploitation of factory farming, cloning and cyborging us out of existence.

As apparently, this Archonic miasm is intrinsic to Human and Earth history, it's been with us from the start. Yet, we can take heart, for Sophia says to Yaldaboath when he declares himself god over all "no, the child of light was before you and shall rule over you!".

For the past 10-12,000 years, Earth and humanity have been wandering in the shadows, as Earth turned away in her cycle from the Galactic centre of light. Human DNA's power source was diminished greatly. During this time, The Archons have had a field day, in preparation for these times when we return to full activation; hence the frenetic rush to freeze/devolve the specie at this time. The maniacs to whom we have relinquished our power, through millenia of victimhood, are getting very careless as they `think it's in the bag'. Overall, I tend to agree that it looks that way, with most people still choosing to plug into their media-controlled matrix and bleat programmed mantras rather than think.

But these times hold the key to tremendous opportunity for all out liberation. Our original blueprint is coded for creative liberation; we are made of the stuff that spawns galaxies. We are part of a huge human family throughout the Galaxy and perhaps beyond. Our brothers and sisters await us as the cosmic clock spirals into a defining moment. Although the temperature for myself and others grew intolerable long ago, the rising heat may trigger the codes for many more and shake these bastards off, once and for all. They're heading for the Abyss from which they came and it is a burning question of choice as to who goes with them. Let us vision the paradise paradigm and make that our reality."
 Quoting: NewEarth 5D 73603427


Thanks for the information. Do you have any source if this or did you find it out yourself?
 Quoting: Nuclear


He definitely didn't come up with that on his own. He has the intellect of a 5 year old. Just wait for him to derail this thread and start talking about his Brazilian Freemason buddy that was found hanging from his bed. Still, the text he's copied and pasted is good information.

It's late here, so I can't get into this as much as I'd like, but Gnosticism is an interesting interpretation of events. As a gnostic myself, what I've come to discover is that the demi-urge is a lot like us. He trapped us here because he needed a food source for his ego. You see, the demi-urge and its archons are extremely advanced technologically, but they don't have creative thought. They can manipulate and meld, but never create. They lack the divine inspiration that we humans have because we have spirits. We were baited into this physical realm. It's matter that is evil. Sophia's counterpart Aeon, Christos, came to set events into motion that would help free us from the clutches of the demi-urges material universe. Gnosticism was the original Christianity. A lot of people will come and say that's false, or that I'm a liar, but ask yourself this: Why were the Gnostics wiped out, credibility destroyed, texts hidden in the Catholic library that only the super super elite have access to, and are now called pagans/devil worshippers? Is it because Gnostics worship the devil? LOL, think about it. They hate the devil. They're the only ones talking about the devil's true identity.

Food for thought.
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There are many many different types of "Gnostics". The term is a MISNOMER.

The term means knowing or knowledge. This is like saying people with knowledge think that Jehova (God) is evil.

I know EXACTLY about the heretical "Gnosticism" you're talking about, so don't get me wrong. I'm not arguing with you, the info you say is true. You're talking about like a Luciferian Gnosticism.

I am a Gnostic Christian though. That means that I believe in knowledge from God. Part of that knowledge is contained in the Gnostic gospels, like List is Sophia, Gospel of Thomas, Book of Enoch, and of course THE HOLY BIBLE!

Nothing in these other books will contradict the Bible. If in case it does, stick with the Bible, but chances are you're interpreting it wrong.

To me Sophia is an angel, as described in the Bible. Sophia means wisdom. Wisdom is described as a female in the Bible.
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Isn't it ironic that Sohpia, the aeon of wisdom started all this? I think it's because through her mistake we will all find inner wisdom. Great turmoil. The ultimate test. And you're right on, the Bible is a great resource for Gnosic knowledge if read correctly. Really think about what Jesus was saying about the Old Testament God, and it becomes clear who he really was.
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"Gnostics. Following the Aeon's/Gods' creation of the blueprint of the Atu Kadmon (human design) Sophia, as the Goddess/Mother of humanity separated from Christos (God/Father) to gaze upon this spectacular creation of light and life which they had created. She literally `fell' in love with her offspring (located in Orion) and fell from `heaven'.

As she travelled, with increasing speed through the atmosphere, an impact occurred, causing a rupture in her energy field, a kind of abortion, before she melded into Earth/Gaia. This abortion, an inorganic form, was/is imbued with intelligence and thought itself `God' of the Universe. It was/is The Chief Archon named Yaldaboath which spawned many offspring from itself. Sophia challenged this abortion, pointing out that `the child of light' was already created before it and was her true child. This is what we are, born of the essence and combination of the Aeons and Gods; not in their image but with our own self-determination.

These Archons cannot create life and contain the original jealousy of sibling rivalry, for we live in the body of their Mother who ejected/rejected them. Being inorganic, the power lies in invading our minds with toxic thoughtforms, that we may become like them as they cannot attain what we are. These toxic forms of energy can materialise in the form of reptiles/serpents/aliens and appear to be manifested with the aid of human blood and fear. This Yaldaboath is the jewish/christian/islamic YHWH or Jehovah, that jealous psychotic maniac of the old Testament,The Talmud and elswhere. A jealous god indeed; a lesser god, certainly.

Tracking back to Babylon/Sumer/Egypt, relics are found with serpent spells (either for protection or invocation) and the religions spawned from this Demiurge, all seek power outside the Self and all call for salvation from 'sin'. The Zaddikim of the Middle East, worshiped this serpent deity, as do the Hassidic as well as their offshoot religions; albeit unwittingly, as they pray to `god'. It is a lie. We were created in perfection and this abortion is a parasite, seeking to destroy us out of deep hatred and jealousy and take our place on Earth, our Mother. Not that it minds much whether the planet is destroyed in the process.

It is said that Yaldaboath DID create a heaven and Earth but these were swiftly destroyed. We are given the lie that he created our Earth and the heavens, such is his delusion.

As this effluence cannot create a human, it has mutated, distorted and corrupted mankind and continues to do so.

Certain elements of humanity appear to be particularly pre-disposed to utter betrayal of their rightful kin and this is probably due to ancient manipulation/infiltration of the DNA matrix of consciousness. The presence and reality of The Archons is strengthened and supported through ritual and such rituals as Crowley and others still perform, through child sacrafice and sexual torture, grounds their presence in our reality in an increasingly powerful way. There are many of `the serpent people' amongst us and one only need observe the insanity of hisss-story (mostly lies) and our current crisis to see the evidence of how mankind has been overshadowed and devolved into nihilistic barbarism.

Betrayal also lies within the masses through blind beliefs in these religions or psuedo scientific doctrines such as Darwinism,Hawkinism and all the other isms and schisms which cloud the truth and widsom within - if only it were sought!

As the Earth is turned into a massive abbittoir for animals and humans with fear and terror mounting, The Archons are completely in control; mind control. Their insane agents are too numerous and obvious to mention.

The masses numb out in response or become more deeply entranched within divisive be-lie-f systems instead of realising the obvious truth. The obvious truth is that we, as an Earth human familiy branch, connected to the Universal Human Family Tree are indeed choosing destruction through complicit Free Will. Is ignorance bliss? This is probably one of the questions our ET cousins amongst us and off-planet are asking us to consider. Universal protocol does not permit interference, for we have the power - far more power than these pesky Archons, our immortal Arch Enemies!

Oh, but they tricked the weak forbearers into be-lie-ving they were 'special' were `chosen' by this false god to have power and dominion over their brothers and sisters - masculine ego run riot! Hence the rape of Earth, the rape of women and the rape of the feminine expression through the merciless exploitation of factory farming, cloning and cyborging us out of existence.

As apparently, this Archonic miasm is intrinsic to Human and Earth history, it's been with us from the start. Yet, we can take heart, for Sophia says to Yaldaboath when he declares himself god over all "no, the child of light was before you and shall rule over you!".

For the past 10-12,000 years, Earth and humanity have been wandering in the shadows, as Earth turned away in her cycle from the Galactic centre of light. Human DNA's power source was diminished greatly. During this time, The Archons have had a field day, in preparation for these times when we return to full activation; hence the frenetic rush to freeze/devolve the specie at this time. The maniacs to whom we have relinquished our power, through millenia of victimhood, are getting very careless as they `think it's in the bag'. Overall, I tend to agree that it looks that way, with most people still choosing to plug into their media-controlled matrix and bleat programmed mantras rather than think.

But these times hold the key to tremendous opportunity for all out liberation. Our original blueprint is coded for creative liberation; we are made of the stuff that spawns galaxies. We are part of a huge human family throughout the Galaxy and perhaps beyond. Our brothers and sisters await us as the cosmic clock spirals into a defining moment. Although the temperature for myself and others grew intolerable long ago, the rising heat may trigger the codes for many more and shake these bastards off, once and for all. They're heading for the Abyss from which they came and it is a burning question of choice as to who goes with them. Let us vision the paradise paradigm and make that our reality."
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Thanks for the information. Do you have any source if this or did you find it out yourself?
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He definitely didn't come up with that on his own. He has the intellect of a 5 year old. Just wait for him to derail this thread and start talking about his Brazilian Freemason buddy that was found hanging from his bed. Still, the text he's copied and pasted is good information.

It's late here, so I can't get into this as much as I'd like, but Gnosticism is an interesting interpretation of events. As a gnostic myself, what I've come to discover is that the demi-urge is a lot like us. He trapped us here because he needed a food source for his ego. You see, the demi-urge and its archons are extremely advanced technologically, but they don't have creative thought. They can manipulate and meld, but never create. They lack the divine inspiration that we humans have because we have spirits. We were baited into this physical realm. It's matter that is evil. Sophia's counterpart Aeon, Christos, came to set events into motion that would help free us from the clutches of the demi-urges material universe. Gnosticism was the original Christianity. A lot of people will come and say that's false, or that I'm a liar, but ask yourself this: Why were the Gnostics wiped out, credibility destroyed, texts hidden in the Catholic library that only the super super elite have access to, and are now called pagans/devil worshippers? Is it because Gnostics worship the devil? LOL, think about it. They hate the devil. They're the only ones talking about the devil's true identity.

Food for thought.
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Thanks for your insightful piece. The last part of my writing acknoledges the feeling I have about reality. About a truth hidden from view.

The past months I'm trying to figure out by myself who is team GOOD and who is team EVIL.

Since the pizzagate story rose I know what side I don't belong. That is the child murdering and eating cult.

Now I need to find out who they worship and what they believe to be sure I believe the right thing by worshipping the other side (after thinking about it myself ofcourse)

This is my current battle: to find out what is right and what is wrong for my spirit. Because I believe that the one thing that is good for one doesn't need to be good for the other.

Don't know yet but you gave me some directions again. Thanks!
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The meaning of 4 letters in Hebrew (Jehovah) is:
- I'm who I'm.
What does it mean?
- Changeling or Werewolf: the creature changing its shape.
Remember transformation of so called g-d who made miracles before Moses.

You still doubt?
See the signature under the Covenant: [link to esocenter.ru]
21 letters in Hebrew translated into English will explain you who is the Pet Goat.
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Will read it in a moment. Sounds interesting.

Oh btw:

I'm building a library with ancient knowledge to support me in my journey. For anybody interested:

[link to www.conspiracyos.com] just login without a password.

It's 500+GB of ancient books which I collected. It is not all true, filter yourself. But the world needed a place to find it all together.

I uploaded your document to the library. Thanks.
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There are many many different types of "Gnostics". The term is a MISNOMER.

The term means knowing or knowledge. This is like saying people with knowledge think that Jehova (God) is evil.

I know EXACTLY about the heretical "Gnosticism" you're talking about, so don't get me wrong. I'm not arguing with you, the info you say is true. You're talking about like a Luciferian Gnosticism.

I am a Gnostic Christian though. That means that I believe in knowledge from God. Part of that knowledge is contained in the Gnostic gospels, like List is Sophia, Gospel of Thomas, Book of Enoch, and of course THE HOLY BIBLE!

Nothing in these other books will contradict the Bible. If in case it does, stick with the Bible, but chances are you're interpreting it wrong.

To me Sophia is an angel, as described in the Bible. Sophia means wisdom. Wisdom is described as a female in the Bible.
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The writer of the piece tried to distantiate himself from the luciferian gnostics. But you say he was wrong and still promoted the luciferian world view?

Could be. Interesting and thanks for your input!
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There are many many different types of "Gnostics". The term is a MISNOMER.

The term means knowing or knowledge. This is like saying people with knowledge think that Jehova (God) is evil.

I know EXACTLY about the heretical "Gnosticism" you're talking about, so don't get me wrong. I'm not arguing with you, the info you say is true. You're talking about like a Luciferian Gnosticism.

I am a Gnostic Christian though. That means that I believe in knowledge from God. Part of that knowledge is contained in the Gnostic gospels, like List is Sophia, Gospel of Thomas, Book of Enoch, and of course THE HOLY BIBLE!

Nothing in these other books will contradict the Bible. If in case it does, stick with the Bible, but chances are you're interpreting it wrong.

To me Sophia is an angel, as described in the Bible. Sophia means wisdom. Wisdom is described as a female in the Bible.
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Isn't it ironic that Sohpia, the aeon of wisdom started all this? I think it's because through her mistake we will all find inner wisdom. Great turmoil. The ultimate test. And you're right on, the Bible is a great resource for Gnosic knowledge if read correctly. Really think about what Jesus was saying about the Old Testament God, and it becomes clear who he really was.
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Yup, everything is ironic and can be interpreted both good and evil. And that is where my confusion starts.

Because I do want to believe the good and loving side. But who is who in this age of confusion?

The devil being said to trick the world. Then what to trust? Who says the good who looks and feels good to us isn't a trickster and the hider of even greater goodness?

I'm having a hard time finding out who is telling the truth and what that truth is.

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Sophia make crazy baby, then make good baby, crazy baby wants destroy good baby, crazy baby gotta go, bye bye baby, bye bye
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There are many many different types of "Gnostics". The term is a MISNOMER.

The term means knowing or knowledge. This is like saying people with knowledge think that Jehova (God) is evil.

I know EXACTLY about the heretical "Gnosticism" you're talking about, so don't get me wrong. I'm not arguing with you, the info you say is true. You're talking about like a Luciferian Gnosticism.

I am a Gnostic Christian though. That means that I believe in knowledge from God. Part of that knowledge is contained in the Gnostic gospels, like List is Sophia, Gospel of Thomas, Book of Enoch, and of course THE HOLY BIBLE!

Nothing in these other books will contradict the Bible. If in case it does, stick with the Bible, but chances are you're interpreting it wrong.

To me Sophia is an angel, as described in the Bible. Sophia means wisdom. Wisdom is described as a female in the Bible.
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Isn't it ironic that Sohpia, the aeon of wisdom started all this? I think it's because through her mistake we will all find inner wisdom. Great turmoil. The ultimate test. And you're right on, the Bible is a great resource for Gnosic knowledge if read correctly. Really think about what Jesus was saying about the Old Testament God, and it becomes clear who he really was.
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Yup, everything is ironic and can be interpreted both good and evil. And that is where my confusion starts.

Because I do want to believe the good and loving side. But who is who in this age of confusion?

The devil being said to trick the world. Then what to trust? Who says the good who looks and feels good to us isn't a trickster and the hider of even greater goodness?

I'm having a hard time finding out who is telling the truth and what that truth is.
 Quoting: Nuclear


In the truest meaning of the word: gnosis. This is your journey, and your journey alone. There is love, there is good, there is kindness. Be the kindness and love you wish the world to receive. But don't back down from unrighteousness. The archons are everywhere. In your room right now. At your place of work. They know you better than you know yourself, and will try to replace your inner voice with theirs. You'll know evil when see it. You'll feel it. That's a big reason the pizzagate stuff is a big deal. In the conspiracy community, we've known for decades that child rings like this exist, we just had no idea the scale. It's disgusting. Those rats are fleeing the sinking ship. They're the true devil worshippers. They've given into the flesh ( the matter we deem as evil in Gnosticism ). They've destroyed innocence for personal pleasure. They might as well be archons themselves at that point.
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“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.” - Richard Dawkins

Thats one thing I agree with Richard Dawkins on
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There are many many different types of "Gnostics". The term is a MISNOMER.

The term means knowing or knowledge. This is like saying people with knowledge think that Jehova (God) is evil.

I know EXACTLY about the heretical "Gnosticism" you're talking about, so don't get me wrong. I'm not arguing with you, the info you say is true. You're talking about like a Luciferian Gnosticism.

I am a Gnostic Christian though. That means that I believe in knowledge from God. Part of that knowledge is contained in the Gnostic gospels, like List is Sophia, Gospel of Thomas, Book of Enoch, and of course THE HOLY BIBLE!

Nothing in these other books will contradict the Bible. If in case it does, stick with the Bible, but chances are you're interpreting it wrong.

To me Sophia is an angel, as described in the Bible. Sophia means wisdom. Wisdom is described as a female in the Bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71076887


Isn't it ironic that Sohpia, the aeon of wisdom started all this? I think it's because through her mistake we will all find inner wisdom. Great turmoil. The ultimate test. And you're right on, the Bible is a great resource for Gnosic knowledge if read correctly. Really think about what Jesus was saying about the Old Testament God, and it becomes clear who he really was.
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Yup, everything is ironic and can be interpreted both good and evil. And that is where my confusion starts.

Because I do want to believe the good and loving side. But who is who in this age of confusion?

The devil being said to trick the world. Then what to trust? Who says the good who looks and feels good to us isn't a trickster and the hider of even greater goodness?

I'm having a hard time finding out who is telling the truth and what that truth is.
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In the truest meaning of the word: gnosis. This is your journey, and your journey alone. There is love, there is good, there is kindness. Be the kindness and love you wish the world to receive. But don't back down from unrighteousness. The archons are everywhere. In your room right now. At your place of work. They know you better than you know yourself, and will try to replace your inner voice with theirs. You'll know evil when see it. You'll feel it. That's a big reason the pizzagate stuff is a big deal. In the conspiracy community, we've known for decades that child rings like this exist, we just had no idea the scale. It's disgusting. Those rats are fleeing the sinking ship. They're the true devil worshippers. They've given into the flesh ( the matter we deem as evil in Gnosticism ). They've destroyed innocence for personal pleasure. They might as well be archons themselves at that point.
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Thanks your words are really helpful.

Pizzagate shocked the hell out of me. The scale and the horrors which are of unbelievable scale and intensity.

That is true evil indeed. But who says they aren't doing this in order to hide and discredit some entity by leaking? But to be honest I don't think the leaks were intentional. But in the end only God knows, right? ;)

Is it even possible to find the truth I'm after? Or is there always something to doubt?
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“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.” - Richard Dawkins

Thats one thing I agree with Richard Dawkins on
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Yes but what if he was made that way? By being locked away in the void by his creator. Not knowing what was right or wrong because nobody ever told him the truth?

How could you hate utter ignorance? It's pity we need to feel and we are the victims unfortunately. But stand above yourself and don't think about yourself and your fate and you will see/feel the pity I'm mentioning.

That is the problem we're encountering from the quoted article in the OP.

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OP, let me ask you something.

Who was it that offered Jesus all the kingdoms of the earth on that mountaintop if he would just worship him in Matthew 4?

Then ask yourself who was it that gave King Cyrus all the kingdoms of the earth because he worshiped him in 2 Chronicles 36:23?
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X says don't believe everything you read.
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“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.” - Richard Dawkins

Thats one thing I agree with Richard Dawkins on
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Yes but what if he was made that way? By being locked away in the void by his creator. Not knowing what was right or wrong because nobody ever told him the truth?

How could you hate utter ignorance? It's pity we need to feel and we are the victims unfortunately. But stand above yourself and don't think about yourself and your fate and you will see/feel the pity I'm mentioning.

That is the problem we're encountering from the quoted article in the OP.
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This is from my own pondering. The demi-urge is a tragic entity. An abortion isolated from the real world, the pleroma. He was essentially abandoned by its mother, and had to do what it had to do to get by. We shouldn't ignore the atrocities, but we should probably respect the demi-urge for its courage. Even the true unknowable God probably felt isolated in the beginning. It's very possible that the true unknowable God went through a similar growth stage before it became the all encompassing light, truth, and love it is today. The demi-urge is a dark reflection of the true unknowable god. It's like a micro/macro cosm. We're seeing the dark side of creation in the material universe we reside in, where in order to survive one must consume another. I suspect that in the nonphysical world, in the pleroma, or heaven, or whatever we call it, the opposite it probably true. What I'm really trying to say is that this probably all had to happen, and it happened for a divine reason that our minds can't fully grasp. The scope is just too big, but we can definitely ponder it.
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OP, let me ask you something.

Who was it that offered Jesus all the kingdoms of the earth on that mountaintop if he would just worship him in Matthew 4?

Then ask yourself who was it that gave King Cyrus all the kingdoms of the earth because he worshiped him in 2 Chronicles 36:23?
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The devil?
Again, the devil took Him to a very high mountain and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory.
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Thus says Cyrus king of Persia, “The LORD, the God of heaven, has given me all the kingdoms of the earth, and he has charged me to build him a house at Jerusalem, which is in Judah. Whoever is among you of all his people, may the LORD his God be with him. Let him go up
[link to gotquestions.org (secure)]

You're saying King Cyrus was Jesus and the LORD is the devil?

Could be, that is what gnostics say. But then there is still this problem about Sophia locking the LORD away.

Why did she do that in the first place? How could she hate her own creation, what did he do to deserve it?

How can you hate somebody who was created by a person, and still love the person who was capable of locking away forever her only creation. A being which experiences every second of the forever: alone. That is torture.

It's unfortunate we are the victims of this torture. Sophia by proxy. Pity the proxy, find out why Sophia did this.

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X says look at mans flaws as a collective. That's what she is afraid of. Don't forget your in my brain
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She's afraid of Islam
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“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.” - Richard Dawkins

Thats one thing I agree with Richard Dawkins on
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53732819


Yes but what if he was made that way? By being locked away in the void by his creator. Not knowing what was right or wrong because nobody ever told him the truth?

How could you hate utter ignorance? It's pity we need to feel and we are the victims unfortunately. But stand above yourself and don't think about yourself and your fate and you will see/feel the pity I'm mentioning.

That is the problem we're encountering from the quoted article in the OP.
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This is from my own pondering. The demi-urge is a tragic entity. An abortion isolated from the real world, the pleroma. He was essentially abandoned by its mother, and had to do what it had to do to get by. We shouldn't ignore the atrocities, but we should probably respect the demi-urge for its courage. Even the true unknowable God probably felt isolated in the beginning. It's very possible that the true unknowable God went through a similar growth stage before it became the all encompassing light, truth, and love it is today. The demi-urge is a dark reflection of the true unknowable god. It's like a micro/macro cosm. We're seeing the dark side of creation in the material universe we reside in, where in order to survive one must consume another. I suspect that in the nonphysical world, in the pleroma, or heaven, or whatever we call it, the opposite it probably true. What I'm really trying to say is that this probably all had to happen, and it happened for a divine reason that our minds can't fully grasp. The scope is just too big, but we can definitely ponder it.
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I agree on you. I think we should't judge before we know what really hapened. Towards both Jehova and Sophia. Because we don't know why it happened.

A few weeks ago I was watching the series Lucifer:
I dont know if this story is true but it shows both meant good:

Lucifer rebelled against his father. His father was angry and wanted to destroy Lucifer. Lucifer his mother saw no other option than to cast Lucifer to earth to save him from destruction. The father was angry at the mother because she helped the person he wanted to destroy and cast her into hell.

Lucifer was pissed because his mother did nothing to save him (so he thought) and neglected her. She was imprisoned all the time and did not talk to Lucifer.

And that was the point I stopped watching and I don't know if the mother went full retard after being released.

But I thought it was interesting because from some perspectives some people looked very evil. But in the end they all meant the best.

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The meaning of 4 letters in Hebrew (Jehovah) is:
- I'm who I'm.
What does it mean?
- Changeling or Werewolf: the creature changing its shape.
Remember transformation of so called g-d who made miracles before Moses.

You still doubt?
See the signature under the Covenant: [link to esocenter.ru]
21 letters in Hebrew translated into English will explain you who is the Pet Goat.
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Tried to read your document a bit but unfortunately I'm totally noob at hebrew.

From the accompanied text:
Do not boil the young goat from God's Temple in its mother’s milk
and do not boil the young goat from God's Temple in human milk


So is Jehovah the young goat? Cast to earth by Sophia? Is he on earth right now?
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