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Video beginning to replace text as favored communication medium - (the continual dumbing down through information)

 
Skinner Pavlov
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If one takes a step back and looks at the web (especially noticable on GLP as of late), one can clearly see a trend growing in the presentation of information. Video has quickly become the medium of choice to millions of internet users with a hunger for instant gratification.

I, personally, have noticed that on community based sites, like GLP, (which traditionally relied on articles, commentary, opinion, ect. supplied by the users via text) video, more and more frequently, is replacing the written word in new threads. Discussion takes place about the video, but little else is provided by the OP.

I don't want to make this *post too long*, so I'll just note a few things and then see what you guys think.

1. TV has molded western society's attention span to small intervals. Thus, we prefer something that can be consumed, digested, and forgotten in a short amount of time. Video provides this. ** <- Many people won't even read this post because of its length.

2. The Internet is semi-free for now. Unlike mass media, people can exchange ideas without someone restricting what is shared.

3. Its obvious Americans are being 'dumbed down' - the education system is proof enough of that. Overload people with useless information and they won't want to be bothered with questions.

4. Written word is always more detailed than any film, and because of this, it is far easier to ditinguish a bias.

5. Video forces out abstract thought to conform to the image presented, thus instead of questioning why something happened, the brain focuses mainly on how - which is answered in the video, allowing our TV habits to take over and move on to something else.


The point: This trend could really change the amount of information we share between us here at GLP, without much notice. Video isn't evil, but it's use should be minimalized to situations when text just doesn't suffice, rather than the "oooooohh look at this, its shiny!" posts we are beginning to see.


Does anyone see this as well?
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The Man has an excellent point. Pinned for discussion.
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Condition = the process of temporal association. Humans learn by associating events that occur together in time. When this association has been made, conditioning has occurred.

Classical Conditioning:
This is a passive process, no deliberate initiation of behavior, just responding to environmental stimuli. Also called respondent conditioning.


Operant Conditioning:

Operant conditioning has been widely applied in clinical settings (i.e., behavior modification) as well as teaching (i.e., classroom management) and instructional development (e.g., programmed instruction). Parenthetically, it should be noted that Skinner rejected the idea of theories of learning (see Skinner, 1950).

Example:

By way of example, consider the implications of reinforcement theory as applied to the development of programmed instruction (Markle, 1969; Skinner, 1968)

1. Practice should take the form of question (stimulus) - answer (response) frames which expose the student to the subject in gradual steps

2. Require that the learner make a response for every frame and receive immediate feedback

3. Try to arrange the difficulty of the questions so the response is always correct and hence a positive reinforcement

4. Ensure that good performance in the lesson is paired with secondary reinforcers such as verbal praise, prizes and good grades.

Principles:

1. Behavior that is positively reinforced will reoccur; intermittent reinforcement is particularly effective

2. Information should be presented in small amounts so that responses can be reinforced ("shaping")

3. Reinforcements will generalize across similar stimuli ("stimulus generalization") producing secondary conditioning


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Hrmm..

Here is the links to these pages.
[link to chiron.valdosta.edu]
[link to tip.psychology.org]
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I thought this was a documentary, but when I noticed that this post was filled with line upon line of scribble I decided not to bother at all.
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An oldie from the GLP radio days.




Media Control and Perceptual Filters: Kill Your TV Before It Kills You!!
By Omega.

It always amazes me to try and ascertain the source of the programming that drives peoples perceptual filters and belief systems. By and large most of the time it can directly traced to direct social engineering from television. Orwell almost had it right, with the caveat that the TV does not have to watch you for absolute government mind control, you just have to watch it and allow it to continually, through repetition and carefully selected content, allow the information to enter the synapses of your brian, and become memory, and hence belief. The belief system of your government and major corporations, who´s sole intent is the promotion of predatory capitalism, to their profit, and to our and the planets detriment.

In the seminal work, In the Absence of the Sacred, by author Jerry Mander, one subject he discusses, among many, is a situation in the Canadian Northwestern Provinces in the Seventies, where the Canadian government and major oil interests wanted to explore and drill for oil on lands owned by the Dene Indian Nations, and construct the Mackenzie oil pipeline across the same land. The Dene Nation strongly resisted such activity, and would not contract out such activity, the preservation of the earth´s natural resources of course their primary concern. The solution how the Dene Nation rolled over to major government and corporate oil interests should be a lesson to us all on the affect of television on an individuals and cultures belief system.

They merely provided the Dene Nation with cable television.

Within two years they had numerous violent crimes, a murder, arrests for public drunkenness (they quickly clamored for liquor, something previously alien to these people) family violence, rapes, etc. They developed a taste for cars, consumer electronics, woman started wearing makeup and adopting materialistic tendencies, as did the men, who fancied new cars. Of course big government was waiting for an opportune time to cash in on their television investment, and low and behold, the Dene Nation rolled over and signed the oil leases and pipeline developement contracts. The ancient art of storytelling was lost, as the new "story" was television. An indigenous native Americans culture was for a large part lost forever, and the rest is history.

As a side note I work in the TV /Film industry and am conversant on the technical aspects of how the NTSC TV scanning system works in the US, which in my view is directly responsible for the term couch potato. The NTSC broadcast standard in the US uses a INTERLACED picture scanning system, whereas the image is painted across the screen at even/odd frames at 30 frames per second, 60 fields per second. It happens so fast you can´t see it, but essentially it creates a sort of strobe effect that has been scientifically proven to put the target subject in an Alpha brian wave state, THUS SUSCEPTABLE TO SUGGESTION. And thus the space cadet trancelike mental state. Design by accident?? I don´t think so.......

Like what you put in your body, you are also responsible for what you put in your mind. Orwellian newspeak such as hearts and minds (Propaganda and control), Fair and balanced (Bamboozled and hoodwinked), for us or against us (fascist black and white thinking), and my all time fave , Peacekeepers (fucking laugh out loud), are designed to instill control of your mind and adopt their belief system.

Todays modern television absolutely drives big corporate and government propaganda and interests. . It dictates what you buy, how you conduct business, your personal, family, and sexual relationships, and perceptions of violence and war. It dictates who your enemies are and to love your government and to ridicule anyone who challenges the status quo.


Now please don´t get get me wrong, I enjoy the arts, and film is the pinnacle of the trials and tribulations of the human experience. I merely implore you to exercise common sense and caution on what you put in your mind. Take a step back, and turn off your TV for awhile. Don´t buy into the corporate predatory capitalist machine, as it´s main goal is to perpetuate their interests and pimp this bubble economy. Consider it´s a game of musical chairs, once you stop buying their bullshit the game stops and someone is caught holding the bag. Just make sure it ain´t you, in their quest to pave the planet.
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google patents for subliminal technology (all forms)

there is a reason that great truths are spoken in parables and books written in metaphor~
we are trained to only use one side of our brain (left), for a reason ~ learn to use both the right & left sides-and you will start to see ~ they are both there for a purpose ~
Shal-OM
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Can you post a u-tube of google vid of this instead i'm getting sleepy reading all of this! sleeping
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VIDEO TRANSMIT INFO FASTER THEN TEXT to the mind. Get wit the times. This aint the prehistoric hieroglyph age. we will soon communicate without the need of the archaec letters.
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The above post was to provide some info on conditioning... which if one was to speculate, could be occuring through the slow introduction of video over substance. Our subconscious' are already primed, as mentioned, to get info more often, faster...

Wow just found this, a speech by Rupert Murdoch:

"What is happening is, in short, a revolution in the way young people are accessing news. They don’t want to rely on the morning paper for their up-to-date information. They don’t want to rely on a god-like figure from above to tell them what’s important. And to carry the religion analogy a bit further, they certainly don’t want news presented as gospel.

Instead, they want their news on demand, when it works for them.

They want control over their media, instead of being controlled by it.

They want to question, to probe, to offer a different angle. Think about how blogs and message boards revealed that Kryptonite bicycle locks were vulnerable to a Bic pen. Or the Swiftboat incident. Or the swift departure of Dan Rather from CBS. One commentator, Jeff Jarvis, puts it this way: give the people control of media, they will use it. Don’t give people control of media, and you will lose them..."


"And with the growing proliferation of broadband, the emphasis online is shifting from text only to text with video. The future is soon upon us in this regard. Google and Yahoo already are testing video search while other established cable brands, including FOX News, are accompanying their text news stories with video clips. "

[link to www.newscorp.com]
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The Man has an excellent point. Pinned for discussion.
 Quoting: Omega


Good choice Omega.

In our family we chucked out our television.
We read for entertainment.
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An oldie from the GLP radio days.




Media Control and Perceptual Filters: Kill Your TV Before It Kills You!!
By Omega.

It always amazes me to try and ascertain the source of the programming that drives peoples perceptual filters and belief systems. By and large most of the time it can directly traced to direct social engineering from television. Orwell almost had it right, with the caveat that the TV does not have to watch you for absolute government mind control, you just have to watch it and allow it to continually, through repetition and carefully selected content, allow the information to enter the synapses of your brian, and become memory, and hence belief. The belief system of your government and major corporations, who´s sole intent is the promotion of predatory capitalism, to their profit, and to our and the planets detriment.

In the seminal work, In the Absence of the Sacred, by author Jerry Mander, one subject he discusses, among many, is a situation in the Canadian Northwestern Provinces in the Seventies, where the Canadian government and major oil interests wanted to explore and drill for oil on lands owned by the Dene Indian Nations, and construct the Mackenzie oil pipeline across the same land. The Dene
Nation strongly resisted such activity, and would not contract out such activity, the preservation of the earth´s natural resources of course their primary concern. The solution how the Dene Nation rolled over to major government and corporate oil interests should be a lesson to us all on the affect of television on an individuals and cultures belief system.

They merely provided the Dene Nation with cable television.

Within two years they had numerous violent crimes, a murder, arrests for public drunkenness (they quickly clamored for liquor, something previously alien to these people) family violence, rapes, etc. They developed a taste for cars, consumer electronics, woman started wearing makeup and adopting materialistic tendencies, as did the men, who fancied new cars. Of course big government was waiting for an opportune time to cash in on their television investment, and low and behold, the Dene Nation rolled over and signed the oil leases and pipeline developement contracts. The ancient art of storytelling was lost, as the new "story" was television. An indigenous native Americans culture was for a large part lost forever, and the rest is history.

As a side note I work in the TV /Film industry and am conversant on the technical aspects of how the NTSC TV scanning system works in the US, which in my view is directly responsible for the term couch potato. The NTSC broadcast standard in the US uses a INTERLACED picture scanning system, whereas the image is painted across the screen at even/odd frames at 30 frames per second, 60 fields per second. It happens so fast you can´t see it, but essentially it creates a sort of strobe effect that has been scientifically proven to put the target subject in an Alpha brian wave state, THUS SUSCEPTABLE TO SUGGESTION. And thus the space cadet trancelike mental state. Design by accident?? I don´t think so.......

Like what you put in your body, you are also responsible for what you put in your mind. Orwellian newspeak such as hearts and minds (Propaganda and control), Fair and balanced (Bamboozled and hoodwinked), for us or against us (fascist black and white thinking), and my all time fave , Peacekeepers (fucking laugh out loud), are designed to instill control of your mind and adopt their belief system.

Todays modern television absolutely drives big corporate and government propaganda and interests. . It dictates what you buy, how you conduct business, your personal, family, and sexual relationships, and perceptions of violence and war. It dictates who your enemies are and to love your government and to ridicule anyone who challenges the status quo.


Now please don´t get get me wrong, I enjoy the arts, and film is the pinnacle of the trials and tribulations of the human experience. I merely implore you to exercise common sense and caution on what you put in your mind. Take a step back, and turn off your TV for awhile. Don´t buy into the corporate predatory capitalist machine, as it´s main goal is to perpetuate their interests and pimp this bubble economy. Consider it´s a game of musical chairs, once you stop buying their bullshit the game stops and someone is caught holding the bag. Just make sure it ain´t you, in their quest to pave the planet.
 Quoting: Omega


Very good OMEGA, your good!
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isn't a "picture worth a thousand words"?

a streaming video is about the same.....but without spelling errors.
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In our family we chucked out our television.
We read for entertainment.
 Quoting: Witness_


Lame, reading is for gathering information. Reading for entertainment is for people who lived in the 1950's.

peaks and troughs baby, peaks and troughs, you can see the inner programming of our world using peaks and troughs.

I find it Ironic that you threw out your television yet kept a working computer in the house, using this device you can watch ANY television program and any film, some films even before they are released on television.

The television is a mighty invention, it controls the world, it was television that made you throw it away, it is so powerfull that it can destroy itself.



Peaks and troughs, if you dumb people down so much, they will eventually rise back up and grasp and absorb as much information as possible. Inevitably people will know too much and then they will take a step back and chill. peaks and troughs, it is a fundemental aspect of everything, nothing is constant, nothing will remain the same forever.

What is now, will not be in the futer and was not in the past. get a grip folks

Remember the people who control the world are not evil, they are not controled or manipulated by aliens, they are not reptiles, they don't want to control you, they are simply more intelligent than you.
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1) video can do things text can, show proof that text cant. it can illustrate, it has advantages

2) Please state that you have the cure to ADD and give information on how to obtain the cure from you. I await your reply......
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got a question for you. have you ever once, in your life, just once, been in a state where you couldnt read at all, where it was impossible and would make you blow your fucking brains out trying to read? maybe it was a day you accedently took in to much caffeine. maybe it was a day you had the flu. maybe it was a day you were on some weird antibiotic of prescription that did something to your head as a side effect. maybe it was a day you had a cold. maybe it was a day you were preoccupied.

Now, visualize if you were like this every single minute of every single day instead of just once or twice in your life. visualize you were like this all of the time and you dont know why, its been there since you were born.

do you have the cure to this, yes or no?
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Also I forgot to mention, that people are not being dumbed down, they are just not that bright in the first place.


Television has not dumbed me down and I have watched over 10,000 hours of television programs.

By the OP's logic if someone becomes more intelligent by watching television then the same device that makes someone more capable is the same device that makes someone less capable.

Therefor, it is not the television that makes people dumb. After all it is just a device the decodes a signal and uses that code to send signals and power to speakers and lights to make images and sounds. It is people who are dumb, people character comes forth in this world, some become world leaders, some people live on the street and beg, some people stay in mediocrity, infact most stay there.

Video is better than text, by miles and miles.

what about rolling text on a video, where does that fit in(like the beginning of star wars), is that worse than a book or better than a video.

Conclusion, OP discovered 9/11 was an inside job 4 months ago and is just going through the motions.




OP, can you tell me how to walk on the moon?
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Language was created to dumb down telepathy, and so the procession continues.

See Tower of Babel.
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I personally do not have the patience to watch videos unless they are two minutes or less. I prefer to read and I do not care how long it is. I guess I am weird.
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I personally do not have the patience to watch videos unless they are two minutes or less. I prefer to read and I do not care how long it is. I guess I am weird.
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i bet you are more ignorant than people who do both. FOR EXAMPLE, i bet you never bought the book world without cancer. but since you dont watch videos, you didnt watch the video version of world without cancer on google video EITHER. therefore you dont know about vitamin B-17 and its mechanism of action.

Since you cant buy every book, you better do both, buy books and watch videos on google video.
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Here is a short post as an example. Try to imagine a video for it that would not be quite biased.

God is reviewing your life and actions. Human history will be taken into account. Your possible futures will be decided. Do you have any comments?
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I always wondered why topics like Perceptual Conditioning and other forms of Conditioning aren't brought up at GLP more often.

Threads like these deserve 5 stars.
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we always have to fight censorship and use discernment to filter what we expose ourselves to, but it is getting more and more difficult with the hidden messages in technology now. latent seeds are planted, perceptions molded.

technology also operates on other levels with living things. look at the experiments done with plants and a tv...
we are trained to only use one side of our brain (left), for a reason ~ learn to use both the right & left sides-and you will start to see ~ they are both there for a purpose ~
Shal-OM
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I like to read intelligent subjects or viewpoints from others in words.

I don't wanted to watch someone who cannot convey words to speak coherently enough to present information on the fly, unless that person have rehearsed the lines over and over and follow the tele-prompts or cue-cards.
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isn't a "picture worth a thousand words"?

a streaming video is about the same.....but without spelling errors.
 Quoting: StUdio 182526

Hell, just get chipped and download straight to your brain
so you do not have to waste time watching the screen.
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By the time it is all over with society will be reduced
back to drawing pictures on the walls again. Dry erase
wallpaper and colored markers. Most anyne can do this pre-
school.

Instead telling the waitstaff what they want to order,
the new thing to do is to just grunt and point at
the picture in the menu(i.e. Applebees, TGI Fridays, and
even at McDonalds.).
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I can not respond to your thread because you failed to suppy any video.

Dammit!!!




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isn't a "picture worth a thousand words"?

a streaming video is about the same.....but without spelling errors.
 Quoting: StUdio 182526


Maybe it is, but you are limited to the words that the picture provides in your mind. Thus you are viewing from a bias, and you didnt even know it. This is true control.

And a video only gives you half the situation - you don't learn the circumstances.

Laziness is the new chic.
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If one takes a step back and looks at the web (especially noticable on GLP as of late), one can clearly see a trend growing in the presentation of information. Video has quickly become the medium of choice to millions of internet users with a hunger for instant gratification.

I, personally, have noticed that on community based sites, like GLP, (which traditionally relied on articles, commentary, opinion, ect. supplied by the users via text) video, more and more frequently, is replacing the written word....
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Hrmmm quite a bit of controversy stirred up here. It seems a nerve was found.

Some of you are deliberately missing the point. Video can be used as a tool. But when a video IS the post, you are barring a lot of creative processes (in readers and future contributors) that would usually accompany a similar post describing the same event. Video tricks your brain.

There seems to be a few on this board who might like that?

As far as the argument concerning someone who is unable to read - Yes, video serves a good purpose. Why would they be on GLP though??? You have to read thread headings.


Watch the screen, pretty colours, bright flashes, movement... ahhhh. *drools* Rah for pavlov.



And BTW, OP refers to the user who starts a thread.
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Morons.

Only recently have you been able to provide video links.

Idiots.
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a picture is worth a 1000 words, a video is worth a million.





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