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Washington Post: Virgin Mary Offends Rape Victims by Her Purity

 
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The "virgin Mary" dogma is purely a creation of the Catholic Church. It's a lie, pure and simple. Jesus was fathered by Joseph.
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Can you provide evidence that Joseph had sex with Mary and produced Jesus? The Bible says the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary and she became pregnant with Jesus.
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Just got word The Netherlands is cutting the Isreal/Palestina debacle from it's history education.

They are also already trying to make kids believe it were French Marocceans who freed The Netherlands, not the US/Canadians forces.

They are going insane, and Europe is the most crazy.
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It may surprise some Catholics that Mary had other children besides Jesus, who was her first-born son. Of course, they haven't read the Gospels, so they believe a lie. Mary wasn't perfect, but chosen to bear the Christ child for a reason.
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She did remain a virgin throughout her life. The Hebrew and Aramaic languages spoken by Christ and his disciples do not have separate words for "brother", "cousin", or "near relative". For example, in the original Hebrew, Lot is called Abraham's brother (Gen 14:14). Yet we know that Lot was Abraham's nephew (Gen 11:27). The Jews used the word "brother" for any near relative, without necessarily meaning "blood brother." If Jesus had blood brothers he would not have entrusted Mary to John, but to one of them. The two so called "brothers" of Jesus, James and Joseph, are identified as sons of another Mary, the wife of Clopas. (Compare Mt 27:56 and Jn 19:25).
 Quoting: GLP Effect


A very good point you make (bolded). So Joseph already had a wife called Mary, the wife of Clopas? Please can you clarify this point? What happened to this first Mary, when virgin Mary became pregnant & moved in with Joseph?
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After Saint Joseph ( earthly father to Jesus)passed away, Mary was entrusted to Saint John....

The other Mary ( there are quite a few in the old and new testament (mariam) and Clopas were the paremts of James and Joseph (apostles)
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It may surprise some Catholics that Mary had other children besides Jesus, who was her first-born son. Of course, they haven't read the Gospels, so they believe a lie. Mary wasn't perfect, but chosen to bear the Christ child for a reason.
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No she did not have other children. And yes Catholics read scripture a lot. Have you ever considered when our blessed Lord gave his Blessed Mother 2 Saint John to take care of? , it would have been a great offense to all his brothers and sisters if they had been standing there. Our blessed mother is Humanities singular boast. Yes she is pure and she is the one who loved Jesus the most. Truly he is flesh of her flesh and bone of her bone. As the true Ark of the Covenant it is absurd to think that Mary Had other children. Her womb was a special place designed to carry the Christ. Yes we should try to emulate her as much as we can.
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Because being impregnated by God is a really easily dealt with experience for a young girl from Galilee.xxxcite
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Oh, so now we have sluts waking up to the fact that they are pieces of shit. I guess what really bothers them is that they want to keep on being pieces of shit. God forbid if they used what is learned in religion to clean their souls.
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Good.

Ban EVERY RELIGIOUS ARTIFACT.

EVERY ONE, EVERYWHERE.

Then maybe we can get to real sbit like homeless starving lied to vets, and kids getting fucked and eaten, or killed or maimed for oil.

Save that pansy bullshit
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Still waiting for atheists to solve problems.
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NO

Gabriel came to give her the message that Jesus was conceived of the Holy Spirit....

Angel GABRIEL:"hail Mary. full of grace, the lord us with you
Blessed are thou among woman
And blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus"
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And from that passage Catholics motivate worshipping her as a demigoddess. Ridiculous.
 Quoting: Monotheism



Rhetorical question

Is the Mother of God worthy of praise?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70856989


She's not the mother of God. And calling it praise won't make it not worship.
 Quoting: Monotheism


Mary is the mother of Jesus the second person of the trinity of GOD ( Father. Son. Holy Spirit.). Here fore she is the motyer of God...

She is rightfully reveared and asked to pray for us just as we ask others to intercede for us, Can you imagine what the apostles thought of her... I am certain that Mary Magdalene was sooo very greatful and inspired by the holiness of OUR LADY. Dont leave her out of your prayer life!!!
Call her by one of her many titles such as
Seat of Wisdom. ARK of the Covenant. Spiritual Vessel. Mystical Rose
Mother Most Pure. Mother if the Church. Virgin Most Powerful.
Queen of Prophets. House of Gold. GATE Of HEAVEN

Maria, Help of Christians, Pray for US. Amen
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Because being impregnated by God is a really easily dealt with experience for a young girl from Galilee.xxxcite
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Yes she said yes to the Holy Spirit and was CHOSEN by God because of who she was. A woman above all others... The Queen of Peace
You are correct the very special girl from Galilee... Thank you Maria!
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It may surprise some Catholics that Mary had other children besides Jesus, who was her first-born son. Of course, they haven't read the Gospels, so they believe a lie. Mary wasn't perfect, but chosen to bear the Christ child for a reason.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44635174


No she did not have other children. And yes Catholics read scripture a lot. Have you ever considered when our blessed Lord gave his Blessed Mother 2 Saint John to take care of? , it would have been a great offense to all his brothers and sisters if they had been standing there. Our blessed mother is Humanities singular boast. Yes she is pure and she is the one who loved Jesus the most. Truly he is flesh of her flesh and bone of her bone. As the true Ark of the Covenant it is absurd to think that Mary Had other children. Her womb was a special place designed to carry the Christ. Yes we should try to emulate her as much as we can.
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The woman who wrote this article is a self absorbed narcissist. They're all over the place.
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Mary. Maria Mariam

Has many titles: here are a few to ponder ( all are un narcissistic because she was full of God's graces ( thats why shecwas chosen for her role in our salvation). Hallelujah!!

Here are a few fitting for the woman of the article

Mother crusified in heart

Mirror of Patience
REFUGE of the FORSAKEN
Comfort of the Afflicted
HARBOR of the wretched
Terror of the tretcherous. (Crush that snake head)
RESOUCE of Mourners
Strength of the WEAK
Mirror of Justice
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Mary was chossen by God

With Her free will said "Yes"

She is the new Eve

That crushes the serpents head!!

By her grace were given salvation/atonement
and can be heirs to the promise of heaven

Amen
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Good night

Mother Most Pure. Pray fior the sefie taking, look at me, degenerate, It's my body, "whatever" people in our society and put a halt to this diobolical narcissism, purposeful attack on our church familiy and society

Crush the Serpents Head Just as prophesy tells us. Amen
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It may surprise some Catholics that Mary had other children besides Jesus, who was her first-born son. Of course, they haven't read the Gospels, so they believe a lie. Mary wasn't perfect, but chosen to bear the Christ child for a reason.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44635174


Cousins, not brothers.
It depends on the translation of the bible you use and on the christian denomination you belong to.

The holy mother remained a virgin.
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The holy mother remained a virgin.
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Nonsense.

There is no Biblical basis for maintaining any such.

It is only a Catholic assertion required only by Catholics.
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The holy mother remained a virgin.
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Nonsense.

There is no Biblical basis for maintaining any such thing.

It is only a Catholic assertion required only by Catholics.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54644409
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Good.

Ban EVERY RELIGIOUS ARTIFACT.

EVERY ONE, EVERYWHERE.

Then maybe we can get to real sbit like homeless starving lied to vets, and kids getting fucked and eaten, or killed or maimed for oil.

Save that pansy bullshit
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Fuck off satanist.
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Mary was a sinner, too.
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The biblical concept of virginity is grossly misunderstood - it is talking about a moral responsibility towards the community; to be fair everyone was virgin in one sense or the other\; taken in with acceptance when the responsibility was acknowledged - or sent out to learn when errors were made.

The concept of mother Mary was such that a decision was made to send those who had been kept in darkness to learn - into light when they understood light; the requirement of acceptance into unity with the community. And those erring were crossed into the place of learning for their darkness - their spiritual lacking or unawareness - so they could learn and understand the requirement - for the good of the whole.


It is such a shame a rape victim feel lesser in the way virginity is perceived sexually and not with respect to the timeline of growth along life's journey.

A rape victim is not lesser in any way - the rapist is lesser.


Biblically it is the rape victim who would be condemned and not the innocent - this is so misunderstood and physical virginity is over rated as is sexuality in so many respects the measurement is about the soul - the kindness a person has - the empathy - the endeavour.



It is not mother Mary who makes people feel bad it is stupid values placed on stupid things.


This is not to say that without that context rape is any less demoralising and dehumanising because it is such a theft - starting from the theft of will and man=gnifying weakness in physicality not in spirit.

I hope this woman finds a way to come to feel empowered again and t find comprehension of her SELF - her rapist is scum - when more of us make this differentiation maybe she will be able to also - a crime against the flesh is not the crime of our own souls - though they still experience the pain.



I wish for a world without such onslaught against the soul.
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My thoughts are why give it more face time or exposure?
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The first to offer a solution was the apocryphal Protoevangelium of James, written about 150 AD. The original gospels never refer to Joseph's age, but the author presents him as an old man chosen by lot (i.e., by God) to watch over the Virgin. Jesus's brothers are presented as Joseph's children by an earlier marriage, and his years and righteousness explain why he has not yet had sex with his wife: "I received her by lot as my wife, and she is not yet my wife, but she has conceived by the Holy Spirit."

The Protoevangelium was extremely popular, but it leaves open the possibility that Joseph might have had relations with Mary after the birth of Jesus ("she is not yet my wife..."). A few centuries later the developing doctrine that Mary was a virgin not only at the time of the conception and birth of Christ, but throughout her life, meant that this possibility had to be excluded.

The apocryphal History of Joseph the Carpenter, written in the 5th century and framed as a biography of Joseph dictated by Jesus, describes how Joseph, aged 90 (the Protoevangelium had not given Joseph a specific age), a widower with four sons and two daughters, is given charge of the twelve-year-old Mary, who then lives in his household raising his youngest son James the Less (the supposed author of the Protoevangelium) until she is ready to be married at age 14½. Joseph's death at the age of 111, attended by angels and asserting the perpetual virginity of Mary, takes up approximately half the story.

According to the bishop of Salamis, Epiphanius, in his work The Panarion (AD 374-375) "Joseph became the father of James and his three brothers (Joses, Simeon, Judah) and two sisters (a Salome and a Mary) or (a Salome and an Anna) with James being the elder sibling. James and his siblings were not children of Mary but were Joseph's children from a previous marriage. After Joseph's first wife died, many years later when he was eighty, "he took Mary (mother of Jesus)".

Eusebius of Caesarea relates in his Church History (Book III, ch. 11) that "Hegesippus records that Clopas was a brother of Joseph and an uncle of Jesus." Epiphanius adds that Joseph and Cleopas were brothers, sons of "Jacob, surnamed Panther."

The Catholic Encyclopedia citing the texts contained in the apocryphal writings writes that:

When forty years of age, Joseph married a woman called Melcha or Escha by some, Salome by others; they lived forty-nine years together and had six children, two daughters and four sons, the youngest of whom was James (the Less, "the Lord's brother"). A year after his wife's death, as the priests announced through Judea that they wished to find in the tribe of Juda a respectable man to espouse Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age. Joseph, who was at the time ninety years old, went up to Jerusalem among the candidates; a miracle manifested the choice God had made of Joseph, and two years later the Annunciation took place.


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No suprize, just more proof the media is evil fake ass bullshitttttt!
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My thoughts are why give it more face time or exposure?
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Rape is a big issue affecting a lot of people all over our planet - it needs to be confronted in every possible way - people's feelings need to be explored and understood thoroughly in an attempt to help the purge to destroy this evil - we need to uplift this woman and hail her for speaking her feelings; no one should be made to feel so diminished in front of anyone else - least of all their aggressor/s who may be empowered in this way - or before the spiritually or physically "bulletproof"; cleanliness is not about physicality or harm done to us - but about our inner self.


To have reached the biblical position of the Holy Mother - the concept of the woman must have endured dearly and persevered and experienced a great many things to have taken on the duty that was given to her - this cannot be done when you feel so weak and belittled that you allow life to create resentment within you about the innocent - but when you learn to distinguish against those guilty - truly guilty - not those you choose to point at who cause you no harm and who may indeed uplift you.


We must see the damage rape causes in this way - and address this.
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The holy mother remained a virgin.
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Nonsense.

There is no Biblical basis for maintaining any such.

It is only a Catholic assertion required only by Catholics.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54644409


Several Protestant reformers believed in perpetual virginity too.
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And from that passage Catholics motivate worshipping her as a demigoddess. Ridiculous.
 Quoting: Monotheism



Rhetorical question

Is the Mother of God worthy of praise?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70856989


She's not the mother of God. And calling it praise won't make it not worship.
 Quoting: Monotheism


Mary is the mother of Jesus the second person of the trinity of GOD ( Father. Son. Holy Spirit.). Here fore she is the motyer of God...

She is rightfully reveared and asked to pray for us just as we ask others to intercede for us, Can you imagine what the apostles thought of her... I am certain that Mary Magdalene was sooo very greatful and inspired by the holiness of OUR LADY. Dont leave her out of your prayer life!!!
Call her by one of her many titles such as
Seat of Wisdom. ARK of the Covenant. Spiritual Vessel. Mystical Rose
Mother Most Pure. Mother if the Church. Virgin Most Powerful.
Queen of Prophets. House of Gold. GATE Of HEAVEN

Maria, Help of Christians, Pray for US. Amen
This is how its done
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There no such thing as the trinity. That's yet another Catholic lie. And how could she be a mother if the second person in this alleged trinity pre-existed eternally?
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Mary was a sinner, too.
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What are you basing that on?
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Oh my gawd. This woman is a nut. Only a narcissist would feel the need to be offended by every minor issue. Personally, I don't care what another person believes in, worships, etc... as long as they aren't treading on the rights of & hurting another person. Live & let live & quit whining about feeling offended by others views. It's so silly.
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Im actually offended by what this bitch wrote and i didnt even need to read it -





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