Why do Christians hate catholics?

But paganism is the issue with the Roman Catholic church. They still practice it.

True, but the Catholic church also,used it to convert the pagons. There are two sides to that coin. Look few dispute that the Catholic Church is evil at the top. In fact, only those who,hav not done the research still think the Vaticn is a Godly place.

However, just like any other denomination, there are many who are saved and many who are not.

If your Messiah is a God-man it does.

The title off this thread reeks of ignorance. Most Christians don't hate Catholics, They hate the Catholic hierarchy and pagon traditions.

But most Christians still follow Catholic doctrines and celebrate Catholic, pagan holidays.

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Says you.

He will Judge our hearts righteously.

We can be certain that He determines if we are truly for Him or not.

Says facts, Jeopardy! That is how Christendom was changed. You can't detach your God-man Messiah from the institution that made him the God-man. You are unlearnable.

Yeshua died for you, Mono, so that you could join Him in His Kingdom.

Hope to see you there.

Pride, ignorance, fear of being proven wrong, guilt.

Guilt for dividing the Body of Christ and committing blasphemy against the Holy Sacraments and Bride of Christ.

Inescapable facts like the earliest Christians being clearly Catholic, the Bible being compiled by the Catholic Church, Protestant denominations not even existing until the 16th century or later, the Key to the Kingdom and authority to bind and loose being given to Peter by Christ, Jesus repeatedly saying that his flesh is true food for the life of the world, etc probably cause a lot of insecurities in the Protestant mind, unless they come from an ignorant enough background. The very term Protestant comes from PROTESTing the Catholic Church. Martin Luther had some valid complaints about corruption in the Church, but starting a new religion was insanity.

Honestly, I suspect many if not most just truly love Jesus, have a real relationship with him, and don't see the point of the Catholic Church. They think it's a bunch of meaningless rituals. It's truly unfortunate how many good Christians are missing out on the fullness of the faith and power of the sacraments that Jesus gives us through his Church.

Please explain what you say I lack because I do not believe the men of Rome.

Your abominable church was founded by imperial decree in the late 4th century, and the doctrinal details of its sacrament wasn't developed until the 13th century.

He's saying you need ritualized cannibalism.

Katholikin, catholici

TALMUD - by Joseph Barclay, [1878]

Treatise XIV. Measurements: Chapter V

266:1 The Temple services were arranged by the council of fourteen. This council was composed of the High Priest, the Sagan (the deputy or Suffragan of the High Priest),

two Katholikin, who had charge of the treasuries,
three Gizbarim, who were assistants of the Katholikin,
seven Ammarcalin, who had charge of the gates.


These fourteen officers, ranking in the order mentioned, formed the standing 'council of the Temple,' which regulated everything connected with the affairs and services of the sanctuary. Its members were also called 'the elders of the priests,' or 'the counsellors.'


Either Maimonides himself, or his transcriber, has put a twofold reading upon this word: for in his Jad Hazakah, he reads it Kathikolin, but in his comment upon the Talmud text, he reads it Kathilokin. And with the later, the Jerusalem Talmud, and other Jews agree something near, and utter it Katholikin, catholici.

The gloss interprets it "The presidents or chief overseers of the treasures",

And just WHO is it that calls themselves 'vicar of Christ' and 'Holy Father'? That is blasphemy against God.

"Come out of her my people"

The sacraments have been around since the apostles of Christ. The Eucharist started at the last supper. As Catholics say, to study the Church Fathers is to become Catholic.

I guess I understand how someone who knows nothing about the Catholic Church could think that is blasphemy (the debate about the "call no man Father" verse, that could have its own thread). The Pope calls himself the servant of God a lot more often though. One of his official titles is "Servant of the Servants of God." The Pope is just the physical leader of the Church on Earth which teaches the truth on faith and morals and has the sacraments. Catholics do not consider him sinless or divine and he does not claim to be.

No, actually Jesus said it. Read John 6, especially the 2nd half. Tell me if Jesus is speaking literally or figuratively. Then tell me when Judas betrayed Jesus.

Oh, so why did it take until the 13th century before the church of idolatrous cannibals adopted Aristotelian concepts and terminology to invent transubstantiation then? Why don't the Orthodox branch subscribe to it?

That's just when the term "transubstantiation" was first used. The sacrament of the Eucharist had already been around since the 1st century.
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The Orthodox Church also has the sacrament of the Eucharist and the Catholic Church considers it valid because they have the same priesthood passed down from Christ through the laying on of hands during the sacrament of Holy Orders, they just deny the authority of the Bishop of Rome because the east decided they wanted their own Pope in the 11th century. If they don't use the term transubstantiation that's because the 13tg century is after the Great Schism.

No, it's was absolutely not about a term, they adopted Aristotelian metaphysics and made it into eucharistic metaphysics. Just like they borrowed Stoic and Neoplatonic concepts when inventing the trinity in the 4th century. Your church is an abomination.

So what, you are coming 2000 years later and inventing a new sect.

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Even though a new term was used to more clearly explain the Eucharist, nothing about it changed.

The Orthodox branch still call it a mystery, because they never adopted Aristotelian metaphysics to define it. That's the point. And eastern bishops were called popes long before the bishop of Rome assumed that title. And Roman primacy was only enforced through the emperor.

Thread: 27 February 380 AD; the single most important document in the history of Christianity, and perhaps even mankind.

I have John 6.

What do I need of the Men of Rome?

Don't act oblivious. They didn't adopt mere terms, the adopted concepts. Concepts from pagan philosophy. This is so typical for Catholic sophistry.