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Social Security PONZI SCHEME begins to unravel. CUTS begin in 2017 for anyone under 62...(

 
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Social Security benefits will be cut at the start of 2017 for everyone who has yet to turn 62. Those cuts will grow in each year to 2022, reaching 7% for everyone now 56 and under, as the official retirement age rises two months per year to 67.

1) Once the retirement age rises to 67, Social Security's early retirement penalty will cut annual benefits by 30% for those who retire at 62, up from 25% today.

2) The Congressional Budget Office affirmed last week that Social Security's Trust Fund is on course to run out in 2029, which will end the program's authority to run cash deficits funded by new government debt. At that point, a massive 29% across-the-board benefit cut — affecting the disabled and retirees of all ages — would be needed to bring benefits in line with program revenue.

3) If you take that 29% cut on top of a 30% early retirement penalty, those retiring at 62 would get just 50% of their current full-retirement benefit, essentially abandoning the idea of a Social Security safety net for early retirees.

4) In January, the CBO will release updated budget projections that extend for an additional year, through fiscal 2027. That's likely to a show a Social Security cash shortfall of $450 billion in 2027

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The retirement age has been 67 for decades.. so I do not understand this statement.

Anyone born in 1965 or later has a retirement age of 67
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This won't end well.
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There is a slight increase actually, starting this month.
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Fuck social "security". Fuck them to hell!! I will find a way to get what they stole from me and I will find a way to never pay those filthy, thieving... Gov swamp fucks any more of my money.
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If you take that 29% cut on top of a 30% early retirement penalty, those retiring at 62 would get just 50% of their current full-retirement benefit, essentially abandoning the idea of a Social Security safety net for early retirees.
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Don't retire early.
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If I got a raise I would be taxed lol
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This won't end well.
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The world will never make it.
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There is a slight increase actually, starting this month.
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Five bucks, then subtracted five bucks for Medicare increase.
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Yea wait until your' 67 and see jack!
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Investor's is Investor's Business Daily, a notorious
right wing disinformation rag.
Trust nothing they say or print.
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And people wonder why drs push flu shots to old people. It's all fucking connected.
Take the red pill now...later it will come as a suppository.
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Trump has said he will not allow cuts to social security, medicare or medicaid while he is president.

But he also said Mexico will pay for his wall, but he asked congress, ie, the American people to pay for it last week.
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The whole social security thing just pisses me off no end. I'm going to be 63 this coming May, but what I will get is (naturally) not going to be enough to retire comfortably AT ALL.

I'm going to meet early this year with a financial adviser (recommended by my office mate). I want off the hamster wheel of the corporate workplace. I just wonder if I can hang in for 4 more years. At times it seems doable as you know how fast a year can fly by. But, when you're miserable at your job 50% of the time, days drag. And if I can hang in 4 more years I'll be nearly 70! WTF? Didn't retirement age used to be 55 or something back in the 60s?

Good luck to all of us out there aging.
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SS is unsustainable the way it is.

People live a whole lot longer now than they did back when SS began.

Back then, most people didn't live to see a whole year of collecting their SS payments.

Of course, there were more people in the workforce, too. So there were more people paying INTO the system.

Truth be told, if they took all the money each person paid in for their whole work life, and really INVESTED IT, there would be no problem; there would be plenty for our lifetimes. But, of course, Congress and all the THIEVES insist on stealing our money and using it for other things. So then they try to tell us there is NO money. But there certainly WOULD BE if we didn't have thieving reps stealing everything every chance they get.

I have no problem with the 67 threshold. In fact, I believe it should go up even more for those who are even younger! People are living longer these days, and the future they will, too.
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The whole social security thing just pisses me off no end. I'm going to be 63 this coming May, but what I will get is (naturally) not going to be enough to retire comfortably AT ALL.

I'm going to meet early this year with a financial adviser (recommended by my office mate). I want off the hamster wheel of the corporate workplace. I just wonder if I can hang in for 4 more years. At times it seems doable as you know how fast a year can fly by. But, when you're miserable at your job 50% of the time, days drag. And if I can hang in 4 more years I'll be nearly 70! WTF? Didn't retirement age used to be 55 or something back in the 60s?

Good luck to all of us out there aging.
 Quoting: ~ hannah~


No, it was always 65, but people saved their money and were able to retire WITH THEIR OWN MONEY, and not counting on the pittance of their Social Security that the government wants to dictate they can have.

People today can do that too, but most don't save while working.

Again, I'll say,, with life expectancies rising every year, I don't think it's a bad thing to raise the retirement age every couple of years.
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LMFAO you fucking sheep and your government money, you'd all die without them. You all sit here hating the government but without them 90 percent of you would DIE.
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This won't end well.
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The robbed from xers their entire life and then say .."whoops"

It will end with your average joe dying at age 60 something...and no one giving a rats ass....

thats how it will end.
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The retirement age has been 67 for decades.. so I do not understand this statement.

Anyone born in 1965 or later has a retirement age of 67
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Actually it is 66 & 8 mos for those born 1959 for full retirement age.
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Fuck social "security". Fuck them to hell!! I will find a way to get what they stole from me and I will find a way to never pay those filthy, thieving... Gov swamp fucks any more of my money.
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You preach it girl !
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Fuck social "security". Fuck them to hell!! I will find a way to get what they stole from me and I will find a way to never pay those filthy, thieving... Gov swamp fucks any more of my money.
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There is already a way to do just that. Start by checking out Judge Anna von Reitz here: [link to www.annavonreitz.com]
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Social Security is not a full retirement system. SS is only a supplemental retirement and financial assistance for those that are disabled. It is funded through the general fund where once it was independent trust. That SS trust was used as a piggy bank rolled into the general fund during the Regan administration to alleviate deficit spending at the end game of the arms race during the cold war. Well, we won that one but never set things straight with SS funding.

Result is a broken program with no popular solution.
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There are now more younger people in the US than older people. If you want Social Security to be there for you at age 65, get off your stupid-phones, stop jerking off to online porn, get activist, get involved, and elect people to office who will do what you want.

And stop whining.
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So I can presume that the money I pay into social security will also be cut by 30%

I will also get back money I put into it

These people are theives.
I bet they want us to instead put our money on Wall Street where the thieves there can get a hold of our money to play with
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... there are many right now who have been getting benefits for decades already who NEVER paid into the system to begin with ...
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... that means the money went out but never came in in the first place ...
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... it's a ponzi scheme that is rapidly come to a fall ...
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There is a slight increase actually, starting this month.
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Mine went form $1,995 to $1,998!
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They go after the old people and completely ignore the massive fraud in Social Security Disability.

In fact it is Social Security Disability that is bankrupting Social Security as a whole.
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SSA took one dollar each month out of my puny check in 2016 and just sent me a letter to verify that they will take another dollar each month in 2017 .yeahsure
wrinkles slow you down so you can see
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They go after the old people and completely ignore the massive fraud in Social Security Disability.

In fact it is Social Security Disability that is bankrupting Social Security as a whole.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73483620


true dat!
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If the number 666 is considered evil.
then technically, 25.8069758 is the root
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So I can presume that the money I pay into social security will also be cut by 30%

I will also get back money I put into it

These people are theives.
I bet they want us to instead put our money on Wall Street where the thieves there can get a hold of our money to play with
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73748414

How many people die before they even reach 62 years of age? Lots of people. And where does their money go? The Government crooks keep it. But yet they still cannot run the thing properly.


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LMFAO you fucking sheep and your government money, you'd all die without them. You all sit here hating the government but without them 90 percent of you would DIE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38211723


While you do have a point, you need to consider, like here, the total taxation is about 90%. If there was no government and no tax, a swede could buy 10 times more of everything with their wage.

In essence, one family member working could support the whole family + grandparents. The need for SS would basically evaporate.





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