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Seriously, I started reading the books from the "great masters" of freemasonry and the other "brotherhoods", and I have been slowly turning to their side.
They are mostly Gnostic doctrines, and they deal with enlightenment, and decunstructing the myths of religion, and they are very enlightening and have changed my veiw of spirituality somewhat.
I used to be one of the people who bashed these orginizations to no end, and thought they were demon worshipers, but I now think that maybe I can understand where they are coming from.
At the very least I can see that these are some very intelligent interesting books, which in some places seem a little "out there", but for the most part do not advocate death or killing or Satan worship or anything like that.
They do seem to have a real contempt for people who are ignorant, and blindly follow the pack, and I tend to agree with that. It seems the Gnostics look at the dumbed down masses as a sort of enemy to real intellectual and spiritual thinking, so they have gone underground in a way.
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When you remember how people with different beliefs were persecuted during the Christian era, secret handshakes, secret passwords, secret meetings became a very important means of survival. |
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I think most people here will not understand what you are saying ;)
I took a poll on here and more than 75% chose chaos over order and about the same said they did not want a one world governement
so that goes to show you what you are up against
Few will listen,
Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore.
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Elitism = Old Boy Network = Fascism = Satanic Worship = Outdated mode on Planet Earth.
Stay in the LIGHT, OP...stop reading the stuff which is seducing you! It's likely you're existing in another life with this bunch. The time is NOW to commit to the light.
Burn the books, aaaaagggh!
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I used to think that we should share this knowledge with the world. Enlighten everyone then there will be no more strife and suffering...
Well guess what?
Most people DO NOT WANT THE KNOWLEDGE
Most people DO NOT WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEMSELVES
Most people ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO HANDLE THE TRUTH
Most people WANT TO BE SLAVES
bottom line..
there always has been and there always will be a class system of those 'who know', 'those who do', and 'those who don't'
so in the end all I came up with was put a place where the knowledge COULD be SHARED by those who SEEK
you cannot force enlightenment down someones throat...
and most 'adults' are nothing more than overgrown children
Few will listen,
Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore.
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Most of the discussion of this is so, I dunno - nebulous? For instance, instead of saying "I read some books, and it changed my outlook", why not state the book and author, where we can find these types of books, how did you acquire them, etc. I mean, I go to Borders or Barnes & Noble, but I have a feeling the books you read aren't found in the normal course of daily events. So how should people go about finding these books so we can all read them and decide for ourselves like you have? I'm intrigued, like I bet a lot of people would be (I do feel humanity is finally awakening to what religion REALLY is all about, which is simply human power over other humans)... Thanks for sharing - simply be more specific! Believe it or not, sometimes the horse WILL drink if you lead it to water. :) |
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Seriously, I started reading the books from the "great masters" of freemasonry and the other "brotherhoods", and I have been slowly turning to their side.
They are mostly Gnostic doctrines, and they deal with enlightenment, and decunstructing the myths of religion, and they are very enlightening and have changed my veiw of spirituality somewhat.
I used to be one of the people who bashed these orginizations to no end, and thought they were demon worshipers, but I now think that maybe I can understand where they are coming from.
At the very least I can see that these are some very intelligent interesting books, which in some places seem a little "out there", but for the most part do not advocate death or killing or Satan worship or anything like that.
They do seem to have a real contempt for people who are ignorant, and blindly follow the pack, and I tend to agree with that. It seems the Gnostics look at the dumbed down masses as a sort of enemy to real intellectual and spiritual thinking, so they have gone underground in a way.
This is a serious post.
I want to know what others think. Quoting: Do I need help? 191643
Help is at hand. The reason I believe you are attracted to this kind is because they have "the right information". They may have "the right information" but they use it to create fear to control. They are egotistic and evil. The information you are looking for is on it's way. Even most of their information is not based on truth. The books you have found contain words which are deveiving to your eyes. Be aware esoteric knowledge will no longer be "hidden". Countdown has begun!
Here is a link to a tiny amount of esoteric knowledge which I put together and I mean tiny amount.
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whoa, just because I don't think a one world government would prove beneficial or is even desirable - (what in hell could a one world government operated in the center of Africa or Austrailia (sp) for that matter); how could it know what I need or what would be beneficial for me and mine where I live.
It simply doesn't make sense when you actually believe that the closer a government is the better it can "serve" the people that it is there to serve. Even the government structure here in the US is out of touch with the common Joe and that doesn't help him.
While there are some possibilities of things that secret societies could be right about, there are also others they are definitely wrong about. Additionally, that is about all the OP really said and doesn't broach the subject of a "One World Government" at all. The OP actually talks about a difference he is feeling spiritually not politically. |
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Elitism = Old Boy Network = Fascism = Satanic Worship = Outdated mode on Planet Earth.
Stay in the LIGHT, OP...stop reading the stuff which is seducing you! It's likely you're existing in another life with this bunch. The time is NOW to commit to the light.
Burn the books, aaaaagggh!
It's not "seducing" him, not from the way I read his words. We all establish what our own "truths" will be, or our belief system, and we each examine and interpret the so-called "evidence" differently, which is how we arrive at our conclusions. Some obviously buy into things that others do not - like souls, spirits, ghosts, ufos, the concept of "a God"... Certainly you want to take in ALL sides of the story, for perspective and so you can then make your choice of truth from a wider range of experience. Let's not so callously reprimand the OP for his bravery in open-mindedly examining other ideas. :) |
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whoa, just because I don't think a one world government would prove beneficial or is even desirable - (what in hell could a one world government operated in the center of Africa or Austrailia (sp) for that matter); how could it know what I need or what would be beneficial for me and mine where I live.
It simply doesn't make sense when you actually believe that the closer a government is the better it can "serve" the people that it is there to serve. Even the government structure here in the US is out of touch with the common Joe and that doesn't help him.
While there are some possibilities of things that secret societies could be right about, there are also others they are definitely wrong about. Additionally, that is about all the OP really said and doesn't broach the subject of a "One World Government" at all. The OP actually talks about a difference he is feeling spiritually not politically. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 180215
spiritually the knowledge of what we really are has been hidden from the profane
one world government has always been the goal of every 'secret society' you refer too
it is the slave master who holds the master plan
what do you think they have been doing with all these slaves for so long?
taking over the world that's what
and they might just pull it off too
unless of course too many sheep wake up...
but alas history proves mankind does not wish to awaken as a whole
infact most of his being is found in being a slave..
it is ONLY the 'masters' of the 'brotherhood' who have ALWAYS ruled mankind
throughout history
Few will listen,
Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore.
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I used to think that we should share this knowledge with the world. Enlighten everyone then there will be no more strife and suffering...
Well guess what?
Most people DO NOT WANT THE KNOWLEDGE
Most people DO NOT WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEMSELVES
Most people ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO HANDLE THE TRUTH
Most people WANT TO BE SLAVES
bottom line..
there always has been and there always will be a class system of those 'who know', 'those who do', and 'those who don't'
so in the end all I came up with was put a place where the knowledge COULD be SHARED by those who SEEK
you cannot force enlightenment down someones throat...
and most 'adults' are nothing more than overgrown children Quoting: ^TrInItY^
As I have said occasionally for several Years :
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Have accepted the TRUTH!!!
Have Yet to Accept the TRUTH - some haven't been exposed yet!
Will NEVER Accept the TRUTH !!!
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hmmmmm:
Posted by Trinity:
"Well guess what?
Most people DO NOT WANT THE KNOWLEDGE
Most people DO NOT WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEMSELVES
Most people ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO HANDLE THE TRUTH
Most people WANT TO BE SLAVES
bottom line..
there always has been and there always will be a class system of those 'who know', 'those who do', and 'those who don't'"
hmmmm, most people I know want to increase their knowledge base daily. Most people I know are responsible for themselves and I am actually witness to that fact. Most of the people I know handle the truth just fine (maybe there are some exceptions when the truth spoken hits home and/or is about them). And I'm 100% positive most of the people I know, including bikers, business men, laborers and skilled trades practitioners, my doctors, lawyers, mechanic and others all enjoy their liberty and would go for slavery much at all. I guess it is a big world and we live in vastly different places or we certainly travel in vastly different circles. Your observations are very interesting though, can you tell us where you live? |
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Posted by Trinity:
"infact most of his being is found in being a slave..
it is ONLY the 'masters' of the 'brotherhood' who have ALWAYS ruled mankind
throughout history"
It sounds like you might be a member of one of these secret socities. Are you a "master of the brotherhood"? |
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P.S. my previous post should read:
"would not go for slavery". |
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That which most people believe... is the opposite of what is.
The so called secret societies were started because of religion's total control over the populace. They had to be secret so they wouldn't be persecuted.
Religion is past the sell-by-date. It was originally needed to keep civilization and society cohesive and moving forward, but it quickly became all too controlling. When any organization becomes that powerful, you can't stand in its way. Their way or die.
People understood this and created these secret societies so that they could spiritually grow beyond what a man made religion allows.
That is why they have been demonized. Who is doing the demonizing? The religions who see them as a threat to their power base. They are afraid. They know that if the average man would look inside to find the truth, and to spiritually grow, it would be their death.
In reality...that which most people seek, a spiritual growth that brings them closer to the source, is far easier arrived at by following the secret societies methods than that of religions.
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hmmmm, most people I know want to increase their knowledge base daily. Most people I know are responsible for themselves and I am actually witness to that fact. Most of the people I know handle the truth just fine (maybe there are some exceptions when the truth spoken hits home and/or is about them). And I'm 100% positive most of the people I know, including bikers, business men, laborers and skilled trades practitioners, my doctors, lawyers, mechanic and others all enjoy their liberty and would go for slavery much at all. I guess it is a big world and we live in vastly different places or we certainly travel in vastly different circles. Your observations are very interesting though, can you tell us where you live? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 180215
Yes but see
THE TRUTH as you call it IS ALL ABOUT YOU
YOU PERSONALLY...
If one cannot face the truth of ones own life and self imposed situation one has NO HOPE of learning the truth of the universe and mastering its principles
The best slave is one who doesn't know he is a slave...
To master ones self is to master the universe...
It all starts with YOU...
so that little truth that you say is hard to swallow when it 'hits home' is precisely where this journey BEGINS
Few will listen,
Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore.
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Posted by Trinity:
"infact most of his being is found in being a slave..
it is ONLY the 'masters' of the 'brotherhood' who have ALWAYS ruled mankind
throughout history"
It sounds like you might be a member of one of these secret socities. Are you a "master of the brotherhood"? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 180215
The REAL secret societies never meet in the physical realm as you imagine it... The ones you know of are but cardboard cutouts in place for the curious..
No real knowledge is gained through the public initiations.. only those who are initiated through the brotherhood are known to him
Initiation takes place when the neophyte crosses through his own door into the abyss through his own will...
At that point he meets 'the others'
- SO I hear
Few will listen,
Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore.
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thank you Seeker of Truth. Well put. And you didn't even begin to speak about a "One World Government".
Honestly, secret societies are very interesting when discussing their differences in "religions". Religions are sooo oppressive. But the "One World Government" stuff is toooooo Hitleristic, if you will, and I really don't think it will ever fly. Maybe that is a good reason why dumb masses are what secret societies want - because they can easily enslave the uninformed. |
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infact most of his being is found in being a slave.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^
I'm not sure about that, honestly. I go to work each day and yet I do not feel like a slave. I feel like a significantly contributing member of society. I do an honest day's work, and then go home to spend the rest of my time doing what I love to do (whatever that may be for all of us - interacting with family, working out, watching old movies or playing golf :). Would I change the mix from 40 hours work, 128 hours play to something else? Sure, and most likely to less work more play. haha But I certainly wouldn't ever want to go without working at all. My job makes me feel good on an emotional level, because I feel very proud to be able to help make the lives of other citizens better each day. Where else am I going to get that, and love what I'm doing? Volunteer at a soup kitchen for the homeless? I'd rather do what I do, it's more valuable to the community as a whole - you know, the hard working, respectable citizens of our hometowns and cities.
I'm curious, Trin, why you feel the world is one big slave trade. It almost strikes me that in thinking that way, you've got a poisonous mental outlook on reality. I suppose you've simply determined this particular set of circumstances to be your personal truth, which forces this outlook upon you. It's so claustrophobic or something, or poisonous, as I said... it's disheartening as well, to someone like myself. Maybe I'll never be cut out for the OP's books after all. ;) |
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I mean there is something you have to realize here
IF EVERYONE WAKES UP - THERE WILL BE NO MORE MATRIX AS YOU KNOW IT
YOU RUIN THE POINT OF BEING HUMAN IF YOU BREAK THROUGH THE MATRIX
lol
It's like you will only learn what you need to learn if you are ignorant..
and though there is disdain for the profane
there is also understanding that it is only through a souls fight to light from the darkness that it gains power and authority in such realms..
you have to remember that through much of history the ignorant masses would get out of control and rebel against the enlightened ones and attempt to kill them all
it is still that way today
it's not even that they DON'T want everyone to eventually gain enlightenment
more so that they realize that in order for this world to function at any given point in time there must always be a fresh stock of the profane to build the bridges to the light for the 'brothers'
Few will listen,
Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore.
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it's possible that the forces that want world government/domination are trying to convince the members of the secret societies that it is a desirable agenda. Government control of people's lives is so on the way out for the new age ahead, its hard to believe that so many people still are buying into it, and it's sad that any secret society is being duped by the ideal of world domination as a way to earn favor with the gods, i.e. dark forces. |
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They do seem to have a real contempt for people who are ignorant, and blindly follow the pack, and I tend to agree with that. It seems the Gnostics look at the dumbed down masses as a sort of enemy to real intellectual and spiritual thinking, so they have gone underground in a way.
This is a serious post.
I want to know what others think. Quoting: Do I need help? 191643
Certain sects have kept a dark secret, one that has enabled them to amass tremendous wealth and steal the reigns of power in this world. There are people, a handful of the very rich and famous, the members of certain secret societies, members of the Bohemian Club, most politicians, who have crossed the threshold of real-time into space-time.
The ‘Past Masters’ and ‘Grand Past Masters’ of the secret sects do not observe day and night in their season (order). They have garbed their secret in the robes of a mystery religion and entrusted it to the senior members of their secret societies. They have stepped out of the natural process of Nature and they go back in Time. Space-time will be endorsed by the Catholic Church because it is no longer the Church of God, rather, it is in the hands of the Illuminati. And space-time will be endorsed by governments because they are controlled by the Illuminati.
The "Universal" Catholic Church believes it is withholding the information because mankind is not wise enough to understand the truth. Have you visited Vatican City lately? Have you seen how the Church flaunts symbols of the truth everywhere? What is her purpose if not to taunt? Shouldn't she be more modest since she has no intention of revealing the truth? And then there are the so-called secret societies, the very ones who exploit the truth for wealth and power. They have been dressing it up as religion and revealing it since time began (so to speak), but only to a select few, all in the service of something entirely opposite to God.
A very tragic day will come when the Illuminati, using science as a medium to get their message across, will use the natural evolutionary cycle approaching upon our Earth to strike terror in peoples hearts. On December 26th 2004, our Earth experienced a strong earthquake/contraction. Many do not understand what is happening upon our planet. Many do not understand the weather changes. Our Earth is undergoing a very natural process, which has taken place from Age to Age. This process brings life to a higher-evolved state of being with everything in Nature.
Our Earth stands on the brink of renewal, and with Her, we stand on the brink of renewal. Everyone should know that we are on the verge of being presented with a choice that affects them at the utmost level of their soul, and everyone should be in possession of all the facts before making such a decision. The time will come when the temptation of time travel will be presented to you and shown as a wonderful discovery. It will lead to your doom. Abide within God's Laws and face the natural evolutionary cycle approaching with courage and loyalty by remaining with the beloved Land we come from to progress to higher life.
May you choose wisely.
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Seriously, I started reading the books from the "great masters" of freemasonry and the other "brotherhoods", and I have been slowly turning to their side.
They are mostly Gnostic doctrines, and they deal with enlightenment, and decunstructing the myths of religion, and they are very enlightening and have changed my veiw of spirituality somewhat.
I used to be one of the people who bashed these orginizations to no end, and thought they were demon worshipers, but I now think that maybe I can understand where they are coming from.
At the very least I can see that these are some very intelligent interesting books, which in some places seem a little "out there", but for the most part do not advocate death or killing or Satan worship or anything like that.
They do seem to have a real contempt for people who are ignorant, and blindly follow the pack, and I tend to agree with that. It seems the Gnostics look at the dumbed down masses as a sort of enemy to real intellectual and spiritual thinking, so they have gone underground in a way.
This is a serious post.
I want to know what others think. Quoting: Do I need help? 191643
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silly OP...do you really think an introduction to a secret society would include...obtw, we worship satan...lol
the European "secret societies" all stem from the "secrets" of Kabbalah(Cathcars,Rosetarians,Templar,and Freemasons)...as they "leaked" into the public domain, and got watered down past recognition over the centuries...
seek and you shall find (just what you are looking for)
have you ever heard the expression: the devil will tell you ninety nine bits of truth to get you to swallow that one big lie? sugar coated poison.
Whenever anyone's ego is "out of control" and they think they are somehow "better" than another ... or deserve MORE knowledge than another...and better able to make decisions for another...they denigh that we are all "children of God"... and infringe upon the uninalienable right of this Planet...Free will.
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I think most people here will not understand what you are saying ;)
I took a poll on here and more than 75% chose chaos over order and about the same said they did not want a one world governement
so that goes to show you what you are up against Quoting: ^TrInItY^
Trinity, believe me, I was one of them.
I remember that poll very well, and trust me I was MAJORLY against this movement of these "secret societies", to tell you the truth When I first "awakened" to it I was scared out of my wits.
I became easy prey for every Tom, Dick, and Harry who had a theory and were prone to show me that this thing I was seeing was a great evil, and I bought it.
But after I got over the shock of realizing that this esoteric movement is worldwide and very organized, I decided to buckle down and really do my research.
So I read their books.
I'm still on the fence about it, and still in awe of the scope of it, but the more I learn the more I realize how idiotic I had been AND how resistant I would have been to hearing them even if they WANTED to explain it to me.
There is a lot of truth out there for people who are open to it, but it's always important to keep an open mind and always realize that YOU YOURSELF may be the problem.
If you refuse knowledge, you are going to be in trouble in coming times I think. |
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I think you are on the right track OP
Few will listen,
Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore.
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| THe problem
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The problem with these brootherhoods are thier secerts and lies used to control.
Whats worse is they can't even control themselves and thier own lodges hence the skull and bones and scotish rites and illuminate and all that.
And thier lies and secerts are harmful to the masses they claim to uplift. Consider the Fraternal strangle hold on american politics. They talk a good spiritual rap but the fraternal brotherhood is not a religion its a club remember? In this way they sidestep the first amendment seperating religion and state while still exersizing and enforecing thier religious belifes onto the state and people.
Gnostic texts are spiritualy enlighting but seek it out yourself from all sorces. Don't rely on fraternal brotherhoods for spirituality. |
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Hey OP...
I agree with what you are saying, but perhaps not for the same reasons.
They do have knowledge and truth, however, they have abused it... greatly.
If the truth about the true cosmology of our own world and who and what the real players were revealed to the masses at this time, the world would turn into a major chaos.
I always thought I was ready for the truth, but then, as each and every layer of the onion got peeled away, each one semi-transparent on its own, but together, clouding the inner core, it really did bring tears to my eyes.
Tears of joy, confusion and many moments of "What the F**K?! Oh man... please say this isn't so... please."
The only good thing I can say, with certainty, is that it does have an end point and all comes together. The process to get there however is going to be painful, full of confusion and fear for far too many. This is only because of the current methods of social engineering which is being utilized. It DOES NOT have to be this way. They also have 'alternatives' and that's part of the secret too. There isn't just one path, but all paths do lead to the same end point.
They understand the power of "prayer" and "spiritual law" too. It's not the same as moral or manmade law. It's something different, entirely, and has to do with violating or complying with others' free will.
Go in peace... |
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pssst, the matrix was/is a movie; its not real, its entertainment. |
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The thing you always have to remember is...
there is always a GAME that is going on ABOVE your current GAME..
now you are getting a glimpse of the GAME above the common mans game.. but that is just a bread crumb left for you by the masters..
follow it..
and you will know the truth of the tree of life.. and more..
anything you want will be yours..
simply because you wish it
because you WILL it to BE
but always remember the GAME NEVER ENDS
and there is ALWAYS A BIGGER GAME..
and it tends to be that what happens is
just as you think you have it all figured out...
BLAM.. you learn the one thing critical for you to advance to the next level and you realize that 6 months ago you really didn't know anything at all..
eventually after enough times of that you realize we are yet a VERY VERY VERY small part of a GIANT god machine ;)
Even though at times it may seem like we are god, being the biggest (or smartest) fish in a small pond ;) but the pond inevitably keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger.. and sometimes many brothers will get caught up in certain ponds (like this one) for many life times until they grow again... Some will pass through as if it was not that interesting at all...
enjoy the journey brother ;)
because the journey home itself is the entire point of it all!
Few will listen,
Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore.
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| Anonymous Coward
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I tend to somewhat agree with OP. When you take away the us vs. them, or the groups, or the rigid lines that form the existance of a 'community' of people you are left with this fact.
We all think from expansions of the same central concepts. It is for this reason that with enough research you find striking similiarities between the many religions, and more so consistencies (in concept) between religions and science.
Drop the lines. Read everything. Say yes to everything in those readings. Thats the path to enlightenment.
Start with hermeticism. Branch to the many religions.
Or start now and go back through time through the established religions. They'll lead to the same concepts.
Good OP, keep an open mind.
For all you that are both for and against these groups: Realize you should be open to both or neither side. The moment you observe and contemplate both, the moment you realize neither is right or wrong. |
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