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Calling LIGHTWORKERS! A Meeting Place !

 
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would anyone care to discuss with me what they are seeing for the immediate future? we can feel it i know... what does it feel like? what do we see?
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Moving feast Sunra, since my reply the future of all has changed. Not a "out of the blue" , a change always known but was yet to enact.

Think of the pyramid and the mustard seed. The change is inside the mustard seed. That is instant when it occurs. The effect on the pyramid is how the pyramid wants. IE: Constrained by a certain degree but flexible in it`s design to accomadate/distribute the effects of the change.

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The Pioneer Anomaly

Scientists have found a small but significant deceleration in the Pioneer spacecraft as it makes its way through interstellar space. What could be slowing it down?

For the last three years, NASA analysts have reported a slow but steady "tug" on the Pioneer 10 and 11 spacecraft as they head outward in opposite directions from the sun. Based on the gravity-only model of the universe under which observational research is constrained, the research team has no explanation for what has been termed the "Pioneer Anomaly."

Pioneer 10 was launched from Cape Canaveral on March 2, 1972 on a primary flyby mission to Jupiter. It was the first spacecraft to reach Jupiter and return close up images of the giant planet. Its last signal was received on January 23, 2003 when it was almost 8 billion miles from Earth. Until the faster moving Voyager 1 space probe overtook it, Pioneer 10 was the most remote object man-made object in space.

Pioneer 11 was launched April 5, 1973, on a similar mission, except that it was sent in the opposite direction to the sun's motion through the galaxy. Unlike Pioneer 10, which moved into a trajectory taking it upward and out of the plane of the ecliptic, Pioneer 11 headed for Saturn and the more remote regions of the solar system, passing within 21,000 kilometers of Saturn's cloud tops. On November 30, 1995, Pioneer 11 reached the end of its power supply and was silenced forever.

The effect that concerns NASA scientists is the distance calculations for both probes. Each appears to be off course by several hundred thousand kilometers and no one can quite figure out why. Suggestions for the cause of the observed deceleration have been illuminating:

Dark matter is acting like a friction medium, creating drag.

Multi-dimensional space is acting on the probes in ways that are not understood.

Gravity is not behaving as theory suggests it should behave.

Dark energy is being observed in its anti-gravitational activity.

A new hypothesis called, "quantum kinetics" theorizes that sub-atomic forces are acting on the probes in unexpected and undetectable ways.

In a previous Picture of the Day article about WMAP and the cosmic microwave background, we wrote that the "hole in space" astronomers have detected is nothing more than an illusion resulting from theories that advocate a big bang cosmology. In the case of the Pioneer anomaly, a similar intellectual blindness is overwhelming the ability for conventional observers to see what is actually happening. As the litany of "possibilities" grows more esoteric, they move ever more distant from the truth of the matter: electric currents in space.

Doppler shift methodology is used in the Pioneer 10 observations. Every so often, microwave signals are beamed at the spacecraft in order to time the return signal. The distance the probe has traveled can be determined through time-speed-distance calculations. The discrepancy amounts to a tiny but measurable amount.

According to our current 'understanding' of gravity, over the last 34 years both Pioneer 10 and 11 should have traveled more that 400,000 kilometers further than they have actually flown. As NASA investigator Slava Turyshev states:

"This inability to explain the anomalous acceleration of the Pioneer spacecraft with conventional physics has contributed to the growing discussion about its origin."

However, as long ago as March 20, 2002, electrical theorist, author and speaker Wal Thornhill wrote:

"After launch, a spacecraft accepts electrons from the surrounding space plasma until the craft's voltage is sufficient to repel further electrons. Near Earth it is known that a spacecraft may attain a negative potential of several tens of thousands of volts relative to its surroundings. So, in interplanetary space, the spacecraft becomes a charged object moving in the Sun's weak electric field. Being negatively charged, it will experience an infinitesimal "tug" toward the positively charged Sun. Of most significance is the fact that the voltage gradient, that is the electric field, throughout interplanetary space remains constant. In other words, the retarding force on the spacecraft will not diminish with distance from the Sun. This effect distinguishes the electrical model from all others because all known force laws diminish with distance. The effect is real and it will have a fundamental impact on cosmology and spacecraft navigation because Pioneer 10 has confirmed the electrical model of Stars!"
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Hi friends,

OP, from the may 15 thread has asked me to invite Acolyte and Divinity to meet him.

Div, i know you, you have been reading there also. The energy there, it is very strong. lol

Now OP invited you, i am sure you cannot resist such a nice offer to help.

Peace
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This is interesting -Another Grand Cross
A powerhouse of an Equinox
The Vernal Equinox occurs tomorrow, March 20, at 2 am EST as the Sun enters Aries, marking the re-entry of the fire element into our planetary cycles. The opposition of Mars in Cancer to Pluto in Capricorn has certainly been fiery, but the fire element has been notably missing.

The chart for the Vernal Equinox point features the Equinox Sun nearly exactly square to Pluto and still within orb of a square to Mars which is moving away from that pesky opposition point. Pluto, which is stationing (slowing down) in preparation for its retrograde turn, is amplified in intensity. We also find an opposition between Mercury (mental functions) and Saturn (disillusionment) that is likely to create some negative thinking and difficulty in communication processes.

One day later, the Libra Full Moon will move into position to square Mars and Pluto as it opposes the Sun, forming a Grand Cross. The next few days will be a powerful time, and the energy of this time will spill over into the next few weeks and possibly months. It's very important now, in this time of great power, to be aware of the energy that we are sending into the world. Everything is amplified now, and each small event ripples into a greater event that has far-reaching consequences.

Hi Atomic, how are you going. I picked up your interest in "scorpio" on another thread. I have no clue why but now I got an interest in your interest. Lol.

Cool or cool.
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And this is for Sax,EAV,Femto and someone else?? There are 2 Full Moons in Scorpio coming up -the second is a BLUE MOON

WESAK FULL MOON IN SCORPIO 0.43 degrees
APRIL 20th NZ 10.25pm AUST EST 8.25pm GMT 10.25am
This is the second powerful Full Moon, and often called the Buddha Full Moon or Wesak Full Moon. Wesak is the valley below Mount Kalaish in Tibet that is the Crown Chakra of Earth. Every year at this Full Moon the Masters, Holy people, Swamis, Sadhus etc make a pilgrimage to this valley where all the Masters and non physical Divine Beings meet together for the shift in consciousness for humanity and to anchor the higher energies onto the Earth Plane.
So in your meditation you may want to travel to the Wesak Valley to join all these other beautiful beings and be open to whatever you feel guided from within to do in regards meditation, anchoring divine light on Earth, personal messages, transmutation of your being and/or humanities as this is an opportunity not to be missed.
The opportunity with the Wesak Full Moon is that we can also surrender more fully to our fears, pain and duality aspects into the divine love of our true essence and the cosmic energies in ease and grace. So you will be supported fully in your desire to be in divine will with an open heart.
A wonderful time to access and love your own duality fears and well as assisting humankind to go beyond all limitations and shine in your true light.
Also a time when you can more easily review contracts you have made to grow and unify and to do your mission on Earth. You can see the bigger picture and your soul story and connectiveness with all experiences and your life/s holograms and what is really taking place with the cycles and the shift as we move through the Galactic Centre. The divine beings in Mt Kaliash wish to commune with you and assist in realisations within and awakenings of your vital force. They work with you in your sleep but now is a time to become conscoius of them and the work you do in the higher dimensional realms.
We are given another chance to connect deeply on the next full moon which is also in Scorpio and a Blue Full Moon meaning the second full moon in not a calendar month but the same star sign.
The time from now until the next full moon is a window of opportunity and grace to unify yourself as the Blue Full Moon in Scorpio is a step up in your frequencies for those who choose.
The Full Moon is a time of completion and celebration, and when the Sun and the Moon are opposite.
THE NEXT FULL MOON IS ALSO IN SCORPIO 20th MAY BLUE FULL MOON
MAYAN CALENDAR DAY; 1 (unity, unconditional love, new beginnings) WHITE (North - refines, detached) JAGUAR - ix (shaman/magician, timelessness, divine will, integrity)
in the 1 (unity, unconditional love, new beginnings) UINAL (20 days) of Initiation ruled by the God of Fire and Time. XIUHECUHTLI

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would anyone care to discuss with me what they are seeing for the immediate future? we can feel it i know... what does it feel like? what do we see?
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Moving feast Sunra, since my reply the future of all has changed. Not a "out of the blue" , a change always known but was yet to enact.

Think of the pyramid and the mustard seed. The change is inside the mustard seed. That is instant when it occurs. The effect on the pyramid is how the pyramid wants. IE: Constrained by a certain degree but flexible in it`s design to accomadate/distribute the effects of the change.

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femto!

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Ecstatic! that you noticed!

*being aware of being aware is the key to conscious creation*
Sunpar
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*loving the flight pattern!*
Love is an exercise in duality to bring you to the understanding of unity. (c) Sunpar 11-22-2011
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Hi friends,

OP, from the may 15 thread has asked me to invite Acolyte and Divinity to meet him.

Div, i know you, you have been reading there also. The energy there, it is very strong. lol

Now OP invited you, i am sure you cannot resist such a nice offer to help.

Peace
 Quoting: Darza

I just checked 7 pages, the firts 3 twice, i cannot find any of Acolytes threads.

So if you meet Acolyte please inform him Op invited A.
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And this is for Sax,EAV,Femto and someone else?? There are 2 Full Moons in Scorpio coming up -the second is a BLUE MOON
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Well there will be 4, you?
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Hey Darza, have you noticed the degree others are peaceful to confide/talk with you.

It`s wonderful.

Love.
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Good morning, what an "energetic" day yesterday was. On the bases of energy = imformation yesterday/today represents a major talk. I wonder what the theme is?

SuRa thinking but must say, appears there is little to think about. Lol. Easy for me , not for you living it.

I get the impression yesterday and today is a head to head with what was thought and that which is.

A no brainer.
 Quoting: femto 396130

Hi friends, this is so true, my reality gets shocked several times a day now.

If i would not have practiced thoughtlesness i would propably go insane.lol

Peace
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*loving the flight pattern!*
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Thank you Sunpar.



"We aim to please".
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Hey Darza, have you noticed the degree others are peaceful to confide/talk with you.

It`s wonderful.

Love.
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Yes Femto, everybody is very nice to me.
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...if i didn't know better i would think this is the ruins of one of our great temples...thanks Dances...

...happy spring everyone!!!

...i finally found out the time for the wave here in south central US is 2:39-3:11 in the morning..perhaps that will assist others in determining their time to participate...

...ahhhhh...it is a god day...yes and thanku...


hf
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...another lion reunion...

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Hi AC395587, funny you should say/feel this.

.if i didn't know better i would think this is the ruins of one of our great temples...thanks Dances...
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Electric Caverns

Conventional geologists claim that water sculpts the interior of caves over eons of time. Could electricity have formed some of them in an instant?

PreviousThunderbolts Picture of the Day articles have addressed the evidence for electrical scarring on Earth. We have suggested that many formations are not the result of geological forces acting on stone with slow, steady modification but are the result of massive plasma energies on a scale that defies convention. Electric arcs and glow-mode discharges may have excavated canyons, carved-out craters and pulled gigantic uplifts out of the ground, compressing them into features such as Shiprock and the Brandberg Massif.

The same powerful strokes that may have carved the Grand Canyon out of living rock could have created other structures that are normally thought to be from liquid erosion: caves and caverns.

As electric discharges pass through rock strata, they follow the path of greatest electrical conductivity. They sometimes leave extraordinary evidence of their passage in the form of Lichtenberg figures etched into soils and rocks. They are filamentary and feathery in appearance, with finely divided tendrils at their leading edges. The branching configuration results from the electric current dissipating as it travels through the material, seeking its most conductive pathway.

Another unique aspect to plasma is that it forms "tufts" and "blooms" of electricity as the current erupts out of the discharge electrode. Tufts can be seen in the "plasma sphere" devices that are marketed to the consumer. Of course, the most common example of a plasma discharge is a lightning bolt.

Huge caverns are found everywhere on Earth. While it is true that soft limestone is easily dissolved by the weak carbonic acid solution that constitutes rainwater, the majority of caverns contain mineralogical samples that cannot be defined through the corrosive action of rain or flowing water, leaving open the possibility that some other force was involved.

In the image at the top of the page an almost unbelievable demonstration of our primary hypothesis can be seen. The recent discovery of Giant Crystals Cave in the Naica Mine of Chihuahua, Mexico has stunned scientists. The cave is filled with mineral deposits of enormous size, as well as with delicate flowers and wisps of crystal so fine that a breath will shatter them.

The crystalline shapes are formed out of semiconductor materials: selenite, calcium carbonate, silicon dioxide and lead sulfides. The crystal matrix shown above is an example of the "spray" that might have been created when a powerful electric current exploded out of the rock face into a void beneath the surface.

The nuclei of charged particles could have been carried along with the current flow and either ionized by the passage of electricity, or forced out of solution within the solid medium. The filaments of energy flew out of a central point and then crossed empty air seeking the path of least resistance, whereupon they continued into the stone, impacting at multiple locations. Wherever the electric arcs passed they left behind consolidated crystals condensed along their interior trackways.

One significant aspect to Giant Crystals Cave is that it is bone dry, with little evidence to imply that it was melted out of the rock by flowing water. Coupled with the lack of moisture, we find nothing in traditional scientific theory that explains how water causes the precipitation of 12-meter crystals along all orthogonal axes.

Jenolan Caves near Sydney, Australia is another instance where formations exist that are difficult to explain according to standard theories. Clear helicites grow everywhere with mind-boggling shapes that defy gravity. Some of the chambers within the cave complex are etched with Lichtenberg figures and upright columns of translucent gypsum crystal.

Fulgurites, or the fused trackway of lightning bolts through refractory minerals, are common in Jenolan and in most other caverns. Could stalactites and stalagmites found therein actually be the remains of fulgurites? As we have suggested in the past, some geographical features, like rivers, may have "adopted" discharge channels after they were excavated by a plasma blast. Perhaps drops of water roll down stalactites after their formation as fulgurites?

Lechuguilla Cave in New Mexico is filled with formations that are nearly identical to Jenolan and the Naica Mine. It is a moist cave, but the water flow is isolated and does not reach many areas where there are significant anomalies. Along the floor and up the walls in one of its vast rooms are thickets of gypsum blossoms like small crystal bushes. Merely walking too close is enough for them to collapse with tiny tinkling sounds.

Lechuguilla possesses "boreholes" as well. One of the largest is a horizontal tunnel that penetrates for miles into the rock. The LeBarge borehole exhibits what Electric Universe theorists might call a helical shape - the sign of a spinning electric arc blasting out the material as it spiraled through the strata.

In another part of Mexico is Sotano de las Golondrinas, or Cave of Swallows. It is a favorite place for B.A.S.E. (Buildings Antennas Spans Earth) jumpers because it is 875 meters deep. The Cave of Swallows is similar to the "skylights" that have been discovered on Mars.

Electric arcs as lighting bolts are mainly vertical strikes. They are filaments of charged particles rotating around an empty center with multiple energetic strands. A lighting bolt averages 1.5 X 10^11 watts in a spilt second as it blisters through the air. They will sometimes form craters if they hit sufficiently conductive surfaces since they spin down into the material. If they hit a resistive layer, they will spread out and create shallow Lichtenberg figures. Since the Electric Universe model predicts electricity from space, could the holes, caverns, caves and tunnels we find here on Earth be the forensic evidence left by the "thunderbolts of the gods"?
 Quoting: Stephen Smith [link to www.thunderbolts.info]


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When you see/feel the "objects", because of your frame of mind and their origin/connectivity to all, you get feed-back. The effect is always unique to the individual. It has always been felt/observered by some, the source was attributed to what they "knew" and thought at the time.

Scale. Today we know the scale of all a little better.

Enjoy your time.

Love.
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so...

i got some real sleep finally
long sleep
and i actually remembered a dream
and it was one of those
meeting teacher dreams
undercover

and...

i start my new job today
shift supervisor
the hours are going to be all over the place
and i will miss my children
when i have to work nights
mmmmmmm

is it just that i got good sleep i feel better?
is it that i am finally going to start bleeding?
is it that haarp stopped resonating its icky frequencies?
is the contraction over?

big hugs to everyone

hf
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wave

Can you feel it, now that spring has come...

...that its time to live in the scattered sun

sun

It is finally here, as of 00:05 UTC

Happy Vernal Equinox!!

The doors - Waiting For The Sun

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wave
 Quoting: floydian slip

maybe...
it is all just part of the rolling for me
the
undulation
the changing
all good
all natural
i feel so much better this morning
now if i dont go creating a buncha negative energy cause my new job
i really wanted it
for some money
to save to purchase some land somewhere
and some tools and seeds n stuff
and good herbal medicine
i didnt even 'work' to get the job
it totally fell in my lap
i just showed up
and it was mine
cause a week before i wanted one
and it is close enough
and the right pay
and the right level on the ladder
but the hours
maybe it is time for me to let go
of the children a bit
my beau will take care of them while i am away at night
all mixed up
and a party to go to saturday night
i wanted to go to the mojave desert for the party going on their
i was invited to their special pre party celeb/ritual/ceremony which happens tonight
then two days of dancing in the desert
but,
i am still here
and going to the small party here
dancing
in the arizona desert
going to do a small easter egg hunt for the kids in the morning
but usually
in the morning
i am dancing
and dancing
i love to welcome the sun
it is my favorite part of the party
and i dance till noon
with the small parties here where i live
oftentimes
i am the only one dancing in the sun so long

i used to call myself
sundancer2012

i love all who commented to me
even though i dont address by name each
i love you
you are all suns
shining
dancing
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so...

i got some real sleep finally
long sleep
and i actually remembered a dream
and it was one of those
meeting teacher dreams
undercover

and...

i start my new job today
shift supervisor
the hours are going to be all over the place
and i will miss my children
when i have to work nights
mmmmmmm

is it just that i got good sleep i feel better?
is it that i am finally going to start bleeding?
is it that haarp stopped resonating its icky frequencies?
is the contraction over?

big hugs to everyone

hf
 Quoting: SunRa


...glad to hear you are feeling better sunra...and once again i am reminded to not take any of it personally...the rise and fall of emotions are just that...and i remember to be the observer...the breath flows in...and out...the day follows the night...the moon...waxes and wanes...

...yes and thanku...big hugs all around...

hf
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Good morning, what an "energetic" day yesterday was. On the bases of energy = imformation yesterday/today represents a major talk. I wonder what the theme is?

SuRa thinking but must say, appears there is little to think about. Lol. Easy for me , not for you living it.

I get the impression yesterday and today is a head to head with what was thought and that which is.

A no brainer.
 Quoting: femto 396130

i worked real hard yesterday not to lose it...
not to go crazy
i was mouthy
and bitchy
but i always checked myself
i always took responsibility for my actions to others
and i apologized in earnest when necessary
even to the children
they know i know and when i do something wrong i own up
they know i expect the same behavior from myself i expect from them
they know i understand what it means to not be fully in control so i can help
and they can help
and we all understand
and work through the rough spots
i wanted to lose my heart in darkness
to cry endlessly
to phreak out
even though i did jump up and down and whine for a minute yesterday
i believe i did good
i did not let go of my heart into darkness
i did not think too much
i tried to breathe
i tried to say, god help me
and i woke up today
feeling REAL ENERGY AGAIN
i just wonder
why i have to go through these ups n downs the way i do
i suppose
i get the contractions
to resolve much
in short periods of time
and i need proper sleep
thank you all again
i could tell when people were reading me
and thinking about my post
and wanting to love me
i wanted to come to the computer to see who it was
and thank them
for giving me attention
but i was to stay with the kids and my beau
being in now
living
thank you
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would anyone care to discuss with me what they are seeing for the immediate future? we can feel it i know... what does it feel like? what do we see?


Moving feast Sunra, since my reply the future of all has changed. Not a "out of the blue" , a change always known but was yet to enact.

Think of the pyramid and the mustard seed. The change is inside the mustard seed. That is instant when it occurs. The effect on the pyramid is how the pyramid wants. IE: Constrained by a certain degree but flexible in it`s design to accomadate/distribute the effects of the change.

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will you please explain more?
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Hi AC395587, funny you should say/feel this.

.if i didn't know better i would think this is the ruins of one of our great temples...thanks Dances...

Electric Caverns

Conventional geologists claim that water sculpts the interior of caves over eons of time. Could electricity have formed some of them in an instant?

PreviousThunderbolts Picture of the Day articles have addressed the evidence for electrical scarring on Earth. We have suggested that many formations are not the result of geological forces acting on stone with slow, steady modification but are the result of massive plasma energies on a scale that defies convention. Electric arcs and glow-mode discharges may have excavated canyons, carved-out craters and pulled gigantic uplifts out of the ground, compressing them into features such as Shiprock and the Brandberg Massif.

The same powerful strokes that may have carved the Grand Canyon out of living rock could have created other structures that are normally thought to be from liquid erosion: caves and caverns.

As electric discharges pass through rock strata, they follow the path of greatest electrical conductivity. They sometimes leave extraordinary evidence of their passage in the form of Lichtenberg figures etched into soils and rocks. They are filamentary and feathery in appearance, with finely divided tendrils at their leading edges. The branching configuration results from the electric current dissipating as it travels through the material, seeking its most conductive pathway.

Another unique aspect to plasma is that it forms "tufts" and "blooms" of electricity as the current erupts out of the discharge electrode. Tufts can be seen in the "plasma sphere" devices that are marketed to the consumer. Of course, the most common example of a plasma discharge is a lightning bolt.

Huge caverns are found everywhere on Earth. While it is true that soft limestone is easily dissolved by the weak carbonic acid solution that constitutes rainwater, the majority of caverns contain mineralogical samples that cannot be defined through the corrosive action of rain or flowing water, leaving open the possibility that some other force was involved.

In the image at the top of the page an almost unbelievable demonstration of our primary hypothesis can be seen. The recent discovery of Giant Crystals Cave in the Naica Mine of Chihuahua, Mexico has stunned scientists. The cave is filled with mineral deposits of enormous size, as well as with delicate flowers and wisps of crystal so fine that a breath will shatter them.

The crystalline shapes are formed out of semiconductor materials: selenite, calcium carbonate, silicon dioxide and lead sulfides. The crystal matrix shown above is an example of the "spray" that might have been created when a powerful electric current exploded out of the rock face into a void beneath the surface.

The nuclei of charged particles could have been carried along with the current flow and either ionized by the passage of electricity, or forced out of solution within the solid medium. The filaments of energy flew out of a central point and then crossed empty air seeking the path of least resistance, whereupon they continued into the stone, impacting at multiple locations. Wherever the electric arcs passed they left behind consolidated crystals condensed along their interior trackways.

One significant aspect to Giant Crystals Cave is that it is bone dry, with little evidence to imply that it was melted out of the rock by flowing water. Coupled with the lack of moisture, we find nothing in traditional scientific theory that explains how water causes the precipitation of 12-meter crystals along all orthogonal axes.

Jenolan Caves near Sydney, Australia is another instance where formations exist that are difficult to explain according to standard theories. Clear helicites grow everywhere with mind-boggling shapes that defy gravity. Some of the chambers within the cave complex are etched with Lichtenberg figures and upright columns of translucent gypsum crystal.

Fulgurites, or the fused trackway of lightning bolts through refractory minerals, are common in Jenolan and in most other caverns. Could stalactites and stalagmites found therein actually be the remains of fulgurites? As we have suggested in the past, some geographical features, like rivers, may have "adopted" discharge channels after they were excavated by a plasma blast. Perhaps drops of water roll down stalactites after their formation as fulgurites?

Lechuguilla Cave in New Mexico is filled with formations that are nearly identical to Jenolan and the Naica Mine. It is a moist cave, but the water flow is isolated and does not reach many areas where there are significant anomalies. Along the floor and up the walls in one of its vast rooms are thickets of gypsum blossoms like small crystal bushes. Merely walking too close is enough for them to collapse with tiny tinkling sounds.

Lechuguilla possesses "boreholes" as well. One of the largest is a horizontal tunnel that penetrates for miles into the rock. The LeBarge borehole exhibits what Electric Universe theorists might call a helical shape - the sign of a spinning electric arc blasting out the material as it spiraled through the strata.

In another part of Mexico is Sotano de las Golondrinas, or Cave of Swallows. It is a favorite place for B.A.S.E. (Buildings Antennas Spans Earth) jumpers because it is 875 meters deep. The Cave of Swallows is similar to the "skylights" that have been discovered on Mars.

Electric arcs as lighting bolts are mainly vertical strikes. They are filaments of charged particles rotating around an empty center with multiple energetic strands. A lighting bolt averages 1.5 X 10^11 watts in a spilt second as it blisters through the air. They will sometimes form craters if they hit sufficiently conductive surfaces since they spin down into the material. If they hit a resistive layer, they will spread out and create shallow Lichtenberg figures. Since the Electric Universe model predicts electricity from space, could the holes, caverns, caves and tunnels we find here on Earth be the forensic evidence left by the "thunderbolts of the gods"?

[link to www.thunderbolts.info]

When you see/feel the "objects", because of your frame of mind and their origin/connectivity to all, you get feed-back. The effect is always unique to the individual. It has always been felt/observered by some, the source was attributed to what they "knew" and thought at the time.

Scale. Today we know the scale of all a little better.

Enjoy your time.

Love.
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...interesting femto...allowing the feeling/knowing to be true...yes and thanku...

Ten thousand years I have been sleeping
and now I am being wakened.
My heavy eyelashes are the woods;
They are beckoning.
My heart, the clouds are surprised
because they are calling me, calling me.
My earth body is bedecked
with a thousand flowers,
Many breasts of mine,
the mountains joyfully rearing their tips,
They are calling! They are calling!
I want to embrace all the sad and the lost.
All wrongs my hands shall doom to death.
I am the defender of every woman
As I am the defender of my holy self.
Earthmother I am, the Only One;
Everything sprang from me;
I carry the seed of all creation;
I am the bestower of life alone.
Oh, oh, oh, I am awake!
Oh, I am answering the call...

Masika Szilagyi

Blessings for a fertile Ostara!!

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Lol SunRa, nothing is not two way. When your posts "effect" me, I think. In thinking of you at those moments, I simutaniously get "surf reports" of other things. So for me you "know" the when and your timing is perfect.

Works for me, thank you.
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Passover...

[link to www.chick.com]
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Passover...

[link to www.chick.com]
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yea, happy passover to you, 19.47.


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*loving the flight pattern!*

Thank you Sunpar.



"We aim to please".
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femto!

And might I say, some mighty fine "aiming" you got there. Couldn't be more precise!

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Beyond Love,
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i love you
you are all suns
shining
dancing
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SunRa!

I love you too and I can see through your love straight to your purity!

Thanks for being YOU!

*IT's the only way*
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*ground crew already started to party*

[link to youtube.com]

*lil' glow worm*
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Music to love yourself with!
Just DO IT!
It will make you oh so! warm and fuzzy!
Now, sing these songs to yourself!

[link to youtube.com]

And then this one.

[link to youtube.com]

Go ahead! This is a dare! Then watch how the world changes but doesn't change around you. You know why? Cause you have changed.

You ARE ALLOWED TO LOVE YOURSELF!

*Do IT NOW!*
Sunpar
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*sometimes you have to first fly solo so that you will appreciate the team*

Always!
Thank you TEAM!
Eagles and the Doves ~~ never to be separated again.
Time and Space
4th and 5th
Find them for yourselves and you will know.
That there is no separation ever!
Is the BESTEST EVER experience!
*SMILING*
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*ground crew already started to party*

[link to youtube.com]

*lil' glow worm*
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Interesting, just yesterday I had played that song for xana, and asked her what is the title...want to find on you-tube and post it, then forgot about it.

The thought must be international, or at least nationwide...


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Hi LEELA - Hows things? I just read your post back a couple of pages. Have you come across the concept that there is actually no such thing as KARMA as everything is happening in the NOW moment and so there is actually no past or future. I will try and dig out what has been said about ths. I grew up believing whole heartedly in KARMA. It was a solid tenent of the Theosophists. The little book Messaqes in the Water tells us that each new reality moment is a new moment and is the NEW NOW - I am not expressing this very well but will do so after consulting some material. To get our heads around this TIME - no TIME concept is difficult for us. ST G always says - in YOUR TIME - or HOW YOU UNDERSTAND TIME TO BE. I agree that forcing LOVE on someone is not LOVE - Do you have an e-mail address that you could give to Div? She has everyones apparently. I would like to correspond with you. The TOLLE books have a lot on TIME and living in the NOW moment too. Lots of LOVE and liked the words to your posted song. You do love music tomato hf


hfHiya Christus!
Thingz are real nice, thank you. (And you too, I hope!)
No such thing as KARMA, huh? Well, it's an ancient Sanskrit word which really just denotes any qualified action or thought. It's the hippy culture that gave it its present context of always something bad. I think we do at some point have negative residues from the past, but that doesn't mean they can't be overcome. And if we do spiritual work, we get nice spiritual karma, which then becomes our dominant paradigm. Forcing love? Hmm, well let's just say that odd ones have their agendas to pursue. Haven't read Tolle lately, but I do know where he is coming from. As far as NOW is concerned, do you like this quote of mine?:
"... I have come to think that, if you could stand beyond time, past, present and future, there would somehow appear a simultaneous expression of all probabilities. Therefore, in a certain sense, everything is ‘now’.
Anyhow, whatever one might make of this idea, I regard as most ‘now’, the consciousness which reveals life as an act of consciousness—a life that re-creates the Divine anew..."
Yes, I love a bit of music, and especially the YES lyrics...
Yes I can email Divvie, and get together with you that way!
lots of LOVE to you too gorgeous... Leela xxxxxx
hfsmile_hearhfsmile_hearhfsmile_hearhfsmile_hearhfsmile_hearhfsmile_hearhfsmile_hear
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This post by Christus and the reply by Leela really got me to thinking. We've heard that we need to live in the NOW, as if we aren't already doing so. Yes, we can memorialize the past and think about the future, but these visits to other *time frames* are always done in the NOW!

The idea that there is no such thing as Karma seems quite foreign to me. I'm trying to wrap my brain around this idea. I honestly don't think that where we are now, Mankind on earth, this is a possibility. We live in a world of duality here on earth, and even though we can raise our consciousness to the ONE, and thus eliminate duality (in essence), I don't think we are daily living that in this material world. We may not be "of" this world, but we are "in" this world, if you know what I mean.

To eliminate the idea of karma, would give credence to the Aleister Crowley concept that Astrolabe postulated yesterday on this thread, i.e. "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law..." Without the Law of Karma, injustice would go unchecked. I view the Law of Karma as perfect, in that what you put out you get back. This way no one has to make a judgment about someone else, and neither, in my estimation, does God have to personally judge you or me. The Law provides justice in all cases.

Now, we can and do create our own reality every second of every day, imho, which we can call "Cause". But are we never to have the "Effect"? Creation requires Cause and Effect, imho. When Jesus declared himself to be the Alpha and the Omega, what was he declaring? The two are one? Yes, I think so. As the Christ consciousness is revealed, the Alpha and Omega (Cause and Effect)....true ONENESS is revealed and thus eliminates duality in the blink of an eye. Until we reach this stage we are not allowed to eat of the Tree of Life, lest we live forever in this illusion, so to speak. I do think that when we (everyone) *realizes* this Oneness, this earthly world would vanish as an illusion. I'm pretty certain that this Oneness already exists, and our Higher Awareness resides there. These lower vibrational fields are simply school rooms for us, or maybe even play yards. I don't know. But I do believe.

Ha Ha...another thought just came to me. The fact that I believe any of the above makes it true for me, huh? Cuz here I am, writing to all the other *me's* as if I am separated from anything and anyone.

I'll stop now....



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Good morning and Happy Equinox, dear ones.

Femto's post about electric cave formation theory made reference to the giant crystals recently discovered deep underground in Mexico:

[link to www.crystalinks.com]

Thanks for the pleasant deja-vu, femto. I remember a year ago, just when this thread was in it's infancy that Xana posted pictures of these magnificent giant formations.

Then there were more magickal memories this morning with the Mills Bros, thanks to Sunpar and Caruso.

A lovely start to the Rites of Spring. Thinking of Allie and the Mayan pyramids brings on more happy deja-vu.

Love to you all hf

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