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Calling LIGHTWORKERS! A Meeting Place !

 
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The 'War' in 'Heaven'hf

It isn't really a war and it isn't really heaven. There is no bad guys versus good guys routine per se. The 'war' is just a bunch of varied people trying to express their own personally perceived existential 'truths', where, as a result, one 'truth' might tend to conflict with another.

The strengths of the 'war' combatants are insights.
Some claim personal differences, exclusive or superior insights. Some claim that there can be no differences, or varied insights.

The 'weapons' in the 'war' are words.
Some claim exclusive personal right to the intended meanings of their words. Some claim that particular words have a universal particular meaning.

The 'outcomes' in the 'war' struggles are a matter of opinion. Some claim victory. Some others claim the same victory. Some claim that there can be no victory, no judgement.

The reason for the 'war' are the different kinds of 'truths' held amongst the 'warring' parties. Some of these parties assert that there can be only one 'truth', their own. Therefore, some seek to subject others to their 'truth'. Others deny those others their 'truths' and resist their acceptance, and hold firm their belief in their own 'truth'.

Others, who are not in the 'war' say there can a number of truths possible, the same as there are a number of roads to travel on. And while it is true that not all roads lead to the same destination, it is also true that not all people truly wish to go to the same destination. Within the acceptance of this realization, lies the framework for reconciliation and the ending of the 'war' in 'heaven.



..... {{ s o u n d s o f c h e e r i n g } }


hfcheershfpeace hfsmile_hear hearts floathf
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The 'War' in 'Heaven'hf

It isn't really a war and it isn't really heaven. There is no bad guys versus good guys routine per se. The 'war' is just a bunch of varied people trying to express their own personally perceived existential 'truths', where, as a result, one 'truth' might tend to conflict with another.

The strengths of the 'war' combatants are insights.
Some claim personal differences, exclusive or superior insights. Some claim that there can be no differences, or varied insights.

The 'weapons' in the 'war' are words.
Some claim exclusive personal right to the intended meanings of their words. Some claim that particular words have a universal particular meaning.

The 'outcomes' in the 'war' struggles are a matter of opinion. Some claim victory. Some others claim the same victory. Some claim that there can be no victory, no judgement.

The reason for the 'war' are the different kinds of 'truths' held amongst the 'warring' parties. Some of these parties assert that there can be only one 'truth', their own. Therefore, some seek to subject others to their 'truth'. Others deny those others their 'truths' and resist their acceptance, and hold firm their belief in their own 'truth'.

Others, who are not in the 'war' say there can a number of truths possible, the same as there are a number of roads to travel on. And while it is true that not all roads lead to the same destination, it is also true that not all people truly wish to go to the same destination. Within the acceptance of this realization, lies the framework for reconciliation and the ending of the 'war' in 'heaven.



..... {{ s o u n d s o f c h e e r i n g } }


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I'll drink to that.

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Kombucha ginger tea, all around.

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Within the acceptance of this realization, lies the framework for reconciliation and the ending of the 'war' in 'heaven.
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loud cheering from femto, Leela.
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You don't have to respond to this.....only if you feel like from your heart. I have been torn between joining in here, but each time I say I will, I don't. I get an uneasy feeling, so I have stayed away. I don't have any answers. I don't even care if anyone has an agenda or not. It is what it is and nothing more. If you want to share your beliefs, your trials, or triumphs, this is as good a place as any. No one person holds dominion over another. No one person is going to control another by shoving their ideology upon another without regard for anyone's feelings. It's not going to happen. Now that's universal law plain and simple. To be honest, I don't follow what you folk are talking about most of the time anyway. Seems to me there's a lot of hurt being pushed around and this is enough for me to stay clear. I'm not going to say what you need to do either. It's not my place to.

With that said, I feel much better. Enough to share an experience I had a day ago. But before I do, let me take you back some 30 years when I was a music student in college. The director of the symphonic wind ensemble of which I was a member, being a bit eccentric invited a musical shaman to work with a small group of us and prepare a free form musical expression to be performed in a concert. This woman had us dispersed all around the concert hall, in the balcony, behind the curtain, etc. She had us play intuitively rather than follow a strict musical script. It was really great. I loved the interaction and freedom of expression. At the end of the last rehearsal, I asked her what I could do to improve my performance. Her response was a question. She asked me "do you feel it?" "Do you feel it in your heart?" Amazingly, at that instant, I felt a great warmth of love in my heart. I said "yes, I do". She responded by saying, "Direct that feeling. Make it grow". I can tell you how many times I have felt that intense of a feeling since then and they haven't filled the fingers of one hand. Even falling in love with my wife or raising our 2 children have not come close. Until a day ago. I've had brief moments before of a welling in my heart of divine love, and have awakened from a dream or two with the after-taste of this feeling. But recently, there has been an increase of these brief moments of unbounded joy that seem to center in my heart.

I was just sitting in my chair at the end of a hard day, reveling in the joy of being alive with no ill thoughts. Just quietly resting. The feeling came back and for a good 5 minutes, it kept getting bigger and bigger within my heart. I thought to myself this will last forever! Of course it stopped, although I am still high from the experience. I had the sensation of being able to control the opening of my heart, which had been so elusive for so many years. I knew this is what will turn the tide of humanity, if we just allow it to happen. It is so simple, to allow. To be receptive to happiness. Without strings. Nothing to intellectualize about. It is there for the asking. No ego involved. Believe it or not, without telling a soul, people have been opening up more to me, and I have been brought into a new level of service to my fellow man, without thought of why they need a helping hand, just dropping what I am doing and help. It feels so good. This is where I want to be.

I hope that you will consider dropping your shields around your hearts and let them open up to the love that is there for everyone. Tell the ego it is time to let the heart take center stage.

With Much Love,
Nrg




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Harp of God Bulletin 4/4/08
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The energies of compassion
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From: "Donna D'Ingillo"

CENTER FOR CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS
Oakland, CA
March 30, 2008

Teacher: Aurora
TR: Donna D’Ingillo

Topics: Lesson and experience on compassion

Greetings to you my sisters, this is Aurora. As always, I am delighted to be with you to share with you those vibrations of love that are so integral to your being.

K, I welcome you here this evening and hope that you enjoy
the experience that we will lead you in today.

The time of planetary change seems to be quickening as we observe some of those energetic fluctuations on the planet of your minds’ receptivity to the spiritual currents that are now weaving around this world. We notice an accelerated, you might call it, energetic excitation—that there is an anticipation that something is about to occur. It is almost as if all of the awakened minds are now gravitating toward a moment in your collective unfolding that is designed to bring you into this awareness of your status as child of light, of love, of spiritual value and substance in the universe.

The eyes of the body may be focused externally to see the chaos and turmoil, but increasingly we perceive that the eyes of the heart are tuned inward to the Spirit and to the love energy that is paving the way for a brighter and more love-dominated future for the citizenry of this world.

Last week in the experience we were able to impart a higher degree of your Divine Father’s compassion into your being, which is an endowment of Spirit that you retain with you to help you receive the vibrations of others in a more nurturing and secure manner. When you are full of his compassion, then the negativity that another person may direct at you, either consciously or subconsciously, will not be perceived in your body in such direct cutting ways as you have felt in the past.

This compassion is your protection. It will engender a greater capacity of understanding and foster feelings and attitudes of forgiveness and wanting to ease that person’s burden, not necessarily through the words you might speak to them for their intellects may not yet be ready, but you can resonate that vibration of love, loving compassion, compassionate understanding to them that will create that catalyzing spark within their being at some level and start the chain reaction to move them into a space of openness and more receptivity to the spiritual energies around them.

This compassion is something that will grow within you the more you focus on it and ask for it to swell and to overtake those places within your mind where you still harbor memories of being hurt by other people or any levels of judgment or anger that you might be holding against a person either subconsciously or in your conscious mind.

Before I lead you in the experience, may I inquire if you have any questions about this attitude and endowment of compassion that I may elaborate for you at this point? (No) Thank you.

Let us now resume. Tonight I would guide you into that place of compassion and your desire to embody more of this exquisite level of divine understanding that is a part of mercy. Open yourselves up now and let us make those energetic fibers in your being capture this sweet and spiritually fragrant essence of your Father. Focus in your heart and let us move in you now. (Pause)

Compassion has been misunderstood on your world in some quarters. Sometimes when you show compassion to an individual, it is perceived as a sign weakness—that you are capitulating to someone else’s desires. This actually is an error. Compassion is a position of power and strength, for in it you are allowing your being to radiate a spiritual energy that is so vital to a growing soul’s capacity to feel loved and valued and supported. It is if you are resonating a glimmer of hope and light into a soul that is starving for attention. Sometimes in this striving for attention the ego needs are so great that the individual seeks to dominate another person through their own willful behavior. That can have a very detrimental effect upon the person who is showing compassion. So it is important for you to receive the endowment of divine compassion from your Father engendered with all of its qualities of power and strength, and the ability to cut through that individual’s woundedness and to fill them with a sense of support and love so keen and strong that it can have a very positive and healing effect within that individual.

This is a high degree of compassion that I refer to. It is not the compassion generated out of your own mind and feelings, but it is vigorous, robust, dynamic compassion that your Father shares with you as a gift of his persona to use for your benefit to serve others. Therefore, allow yourselves to be stretched so that more compassion of this caliber can integrate into those places in your heart where you have this desire to be of service and to be the embodiment of love walking in the world. You will grow into this, and you will be able to express it to others and demonstrate by your actions the degree to which you have embodied the fullness of this compassion. Let us expand you now so his compassion can grow. (Pause)

Breathe and relax and allow your body to soften any resistance. Invite your Father’s compassion to go into those places in your being where you may have resisted being loving and vulnerable, understanding and merciful, and deeply compassionate with your brethren. Allow your heart to magnetize this compassion through your heart-felt desire for this to be one of the prevailing energies of your thoughts and feelings. (Pause)

Your bodies have suffered many setbacks because of all of the error and evil that you have encountered in your physical domain. Yet, truly you are meant to be as light upon the land as the animals. Your life forms were designed to be light and easy to make an indelible impression upon the land but one of sweetness and purity. Let your Father’s compassion move in you and let it consume any of these tensions that your body has harbored and protected yourself from the evils of the world. Yes, they will still be around for a while and you are learning how to comport yourself within them more successfully.

Allow your Father’s compassion for you to move in you to absorb the tension you have experienced in your physical cells because of this generally unhealthy environment you have been living in. Let his environment in you grow in your consciousness to hold you safe and steady as you go about your daily activities in your outer world. Feel how much you need this compassion to absorb the tension and relax and rest in your Father. (Pause)

Allow his compassion to embrace all of those thought forms of insincerity, doubt, mistrust. Let him establish a new reality in you that will resound more deeply upon your soul of the expansiveness of compassion. The whole universe is teeming with compassion, albeit you may not see it on your physical world. This is one of the prevailing energies that we function within. (Pause)

We have come to create new notes and tones within your energy system to reflect the lovely and harmonious melodies of Spirit, of divine love. This note of compassion is an integral part of these notes and tones. Let us now go deeper into your physical body. Ask for that note of compassion to be struck more resoundingly into your molecular structure. (Pause)
Allow it to radiate throughout your being, filling each empty space with light,
with compassion, with your Father’s love. (Pause)

Let us now move into the smallest particles—the subatomic level and ask for compassion to resonate in the deepest places of your physical body; the level of the tiniest building blocks of matter. Ask those tiny particles to resonate in compassion. (Pause)

There are many notes and tones to love, my sisters. They all can make an indelible impression within your being. We will make one more circulation of compassion into the minute cells of your body through these tiny particles that vibrate in God’s will. Feel your desire for this and let it restructure you in the deepest places of your being. (Pause)

Compassion is the hope for your future development. While love is the energy that builds your new planetary social order, it is all of the various notes and tones that create the awareness in your brothers and sisters what this dynamic energy means in their lives. We will close the circuit in a few moments to draw you into the discussion portion of our meeting this evening. Take a few moments to ask for it to go a little bit deeper, a little wider into your being. Let that mark upon your system leave a longer lasting imprint to carry with you longer throughout your waking state. Feel your desire to become a living embodiment of this to your brothers and sisters. You shall indeed receive. (Pause)

My sisters and I thank you for affording us this opportunity to minister to you in this way. We are closing the circuit. Take a few moments to allow the energy to recede. Come back gently to the presence of the room in your own time.

K, because you are new to this group today, this portion of the meeting is directed toward discussion of the experience. I am always very eager to hear what you may have experienced during the session that I may share with you some of the other ideas that will further integrate this energy into your being. I invite you to share with me when you are ready, and I direct this comment to you both. I am at your service, and as you might say, all ears!

Student: I don’t remember anything you said. I feel like my physical body just wants to rest.

Aurora: That is fine. It is always advisable to allow your body to receive what it needs. The energies of compassion are a vital component of your spiritual system. So, yes, indeed…let it rest and weave into you this beautiful tone to support you through your daily activities. I will respect your desire to let this settle in at this time.

In the coming days, I invite you to pay attention if you notice you are becoming more compassionate with your brothers and sisters. Sometimes you will be led into challenging situations as an opportunity to demonstrate through your actions the embodiment of this beam of compassion that has been seeded within you. Remember if you are in a situation where the energy feels tilted in the direction of the negative to call on this embodiment growing within you. Let yourself become more consciously aware of what it feels like in your body; how it shapes and shifts your thoughts, gently moving your feelings from that of protection to those of offering your assistance, your understanding, your patience. Compassion expands your capacity for this, and it will re-establish that position of power, strength and fortitude within you. This is the divine nature being shared with you. It is such a delight for us to be able to weave this into your energy systems so you may use this consciously at will when in need.

Student: One way that we can express compassion is, right now we are in the middle of a presidential campaign and we’re seeing a lot of discompassionate energies being expressed back and forth. It is a natural human tendency when, say, watching the news on TV to exercise criticism and judgment of the people who are engaged in this less than compassionate energy of ideas and feelings. To radiate out this compassionate energy to these human beings and to see the difference between the energy of compassion vs. the energy of competition, and what this world needs is the energy of compassion in place of the energy of competition. When we are compassionate we recognize our oneness; that there is enough for all…we don’t have to grab power at the expense of someone else. There’s plenty of power to go around. We don’t have to win and somebody else loses.

Aurora: Yes, my sister, this is a beautiful depiction of the power of compassion. It is, as you well know, something that has not been used abundantly. Yet it is infinitely available to you by turning within to your Source. We are here to expand your capacity for this so that you may take this back out into the world. As you share compassion, you begin to create a chain reaction within others.

I encourage you to become full, saturated with this most wonderful and gentle of energies of Spirit. Spread these messages of compassion out into the world that people may read these words and have that seed idea planted within that can attract these energies to them. Yes, competition must give way to this more harmonious cooperation between individuals. You rightly ascertain that compassion is one of the key ingredients for this recipe. Please do your part every day as much as you can to demonstrate this and you will be so delighted in how this makes you feel inside, how powerful and restorative it is in the physical body to bring it back into more harmony so that your Spirit presence may further guide you in your life.

Are there any other comments this evening before we conclude our session for tonight?

Student: You say it’s a very gentle energy, but it’s very powerful in my physical body.

Aurora: As the energy comes in, yes, it is a powerful energy. When you share it with others it will be powerful in a way as well. But the others will perceive it as a gentleness and openness that will help them to yield more to the Spirit within them. For most people need that gentle loving touch, do they not? How sweet it is when you can deliver this to them in a way that is safe and nurturing for them to gently yield their inner resistance. Compassion has the capacity to soften.

Student: Some people are very hard to be compassionate towards (inaudible). I see what souls in other parts of the world are doing to each other. We all have this primitive instinct that we need to please our creator to avoid being the object of his wrath. We do what our creator tells us to do. For some peoples of the world how that gets expressed is we slice off the heads of other human beings because they believe that is what their god demands of them. They must do this to appease that god to win their god’s approval and love. It also was shown to me that George Bush is motivated by the same primitive instinct. He is doing what he believes is his god is telling him to do. The antidote to all this is to realize that you don’t have to do anything to be loved by our Creator. Our Creator is the substance of compassion. We are composed of that. We are all atoms of compassion. We don’t have to do anything to be move loved. There is nothing we can do to be more loved by our Creator. I try to remember this when I’m watching events unfold on TV and to have compassion for people who don’t know that or remember that instead of reacting negatively through all the horror of those others atoms of compassion who don’t know what they are doing to their fellow human beings.

Aurora: Thank you for sharing your understanding. This is what we have come to help you to move into that place of embodying divine compassion…to open that wellspring within you to help you resonate with this eternal, infinite well of compassion. As you witness these heinous acts of your brothers and sisters, you will not be horrified by them, but understand that they are coming from a very misguided place. We are here to create that vibration of compassion in as many people who will step up. But some will not, as you well know. How is it that this can be delivered to them? It is through you! You are the ministers of this divine embodiment to your brothers and sisters through the energy you carry within your being. Open up even more in the coming days. Call on me and the other celestials that are here to support you and build you in these threads of love—the raiment of spirit.

Exchange your capacity for your Creator’s capacity. Open your heart and let it flow out. Coming into the fullness the creation story for your life and for the life of this world is a journey that each person takes at a pace that is comfortable. But the pace of change is quickening and sometimes there is a discomfort because the vibrations of cruelty and competition, war and poverty are all resoundingly ringing within the human energy system, creating an echo of disturbance within the frame of that individual, opening the door to a new world and new way. But each person must make that journey on his and her own terms, at his and her own pace.

I encourage you to be more patient and understanding in these coming days. They will test your limits of faith in the divine plan to the maximum extent of your capacity. Build yourself up now in this compassionate endowment that is streaming from the heavens from your Father into your body. Let that be another anchor within your being to know that the hand of the divine is moving upon the face of the earth. I thank you for this opportunity to be of service to you as do all of my sisters. We ask that you remember this during this week that we may continue to weave this into you as we build you in the peace, the hope, the love, the compassion that is the divine nature reflecting in the hearts and minds of humanity. Good evening.


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Hiyo, NRG! Good to see ya once in a while, my man.

Thanks for the lovely thoughts and good wishes. Don't be a stranger.

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I was just sitting in my chair at the end of a hard day, reveling in the joy of being alive with no ill thoughts. Just quietly resting. The feeling came back and for a good 5 minutes, it kept getting bigger and bigger within my heart. I thought to myself this will last forever! Of course it stopped, although I am still high from the experience. I had the sensation of being able to control the opening of my heart, which had been so elusive for so many years.

I knew this is what will turn the tide of humanity, if we just allow it to happen. It is so simple, to allow. To be receptive to happiness. Without strings. Nothing to intellectualize about.

It is there for the asking. No ego involved. Believe it or not, without telling a soul, people have been opening up more to me, and I have been brought into a new level of service to my fellow man, without thought of why they need a helping hand, just dropping what I am doing and help. It feels so good. This is where I want to be.

I hope that you will consider dropping your shields around your hearts and let them open up to the love that is there for everyone. Tell the ego it is time to let the heart take center stage.

With Much Love,
Nrg

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hf Thank you Nrg...

After the words from AC...534 this afternoon, them them in my heart outdoors, where a similar event happened for me.

Onederful post.

hf xana
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I was just sitting in my chair at the end of a hard day, reveling in the joy of being alive with no ill thoughts. Just quietly resting. The feeling came back and for a good 5 minutes, it kept getting bigger and bigger within my heart. I thought to myself this will last forever! Of course it stopped, although I am still high from the experience. I had the sensation of being able to control the opening of my heart, which had been so elusive for so many years.

I knew this is what will turn the tide of humanity, if we just allow it to happen. It is so simple, to allow. To be receptive to happiness. Without strings. Nothing to intellectualize about.

It is there for the asking. No ego involved. Believe it or not, without telling a soul, people have been opening up more to me, and I have been brought into a new level of service to my fellow man, without thought of why they need a helping hand, just dropping what I am doing and help. It feels so good. This is where I want to be.

I hope that you will consider dropping your shields around your hearts and let them open up to the love that is there for everyone. Tell the ego it is time to let the heart take center stage.

With Much Love,
Nrg

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hf Thank you Nrg...

After the words from AC...534 this afternoon, took them in my heart outdoors, where a similar event happened for me.

Onederful post.

hf xana

edited... oops... duh...

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Our New Moon of April 5-6, 2008 occurs in sidereal Pisces. It conjoins the Second Node of the Dragon; a star which lies quite north in the ecliptic in Draco; and the Irregular Galaxy C-1613 in Cetus, which lies just beneath the psycho-emotional waters stirring in sidereal Pisces. Near by and contributing to this month's lunar theme are Alpheratz, Alpha Andromeda, the head of the chained princess, and Alderamin, Alpha Cepheus. Flanking is Revati of Pisces, which also marks the exalted seat of Venus.

Here we have a mixed group of forces, often obscured in the psycho-emotional fog of life. These forces bring issues of growth that we may be dealing with and that have been obscured by our own psycho-emotional congestion to our conscious awareness. These issues are those that may have been contributing to our inability to make the changes in our lives that we mentally know we need to make, and have recently committed to make. Also contributing are the stirring psycho-emotional forces around us of a diversionary nature. However, they only have influence when we have not done the inner emotional clearing required, which perpetuates our resonance with them.
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I think I swallowed the red pill? doing good though.
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After the "War' in 'Heaven'...hf

All humans, enlightened, God-realized or otherwise, have personalities and egos in one state of purity or another. After both enlightenment and God-realization, the human retains the personality with its idiosyncratic qualities, at the very least while remaining embodied.

The development of an appreciation of personal difference, the lack thereof having been the cause of the 'war' in 'heaven', is therefore indicated for the former combatants.

It is all too easy for some to sweep this necessity aside, by proclaiming that 'All are One', or some variant of this idea. In philosophical terms, the above statement is akin to saying that all GM car models the world over are really all the same, given their common host parent company and brand. In reality, the common 'brand' derives from various factories and design teams within the parent network. And so it is with human beings, even if they do have a common divine seed component within them.

In all probability, in our 3D world, we could be more competitive, more dissatisfied and even very bored with our lack of individuality, if in reality we were exactly all the same and precisely 'One'.

Ashay'ana Deane on our common Source and the fact of our individuation:

" Source IS conscious and Source experiences individuation and the illusion of time and space within a time matrix through a process of "stepping down" this conscious energy into smaller and smaller pieces. In this manner, Source can experience itself as a "manifest" form and experience multiple manifest realities at the same ’time’ and within the same ’space’. In many time matrices, including ours, Source has lost this consciousness of itself as Source during this process of "stepping- down" into the manifest reality of individuation. This has created an illusion of "Separation from Source" in many individuations of Source including in Humans.
We are ALL individual expressions of Source, and we, as individuated expressions of Source, all have parts of our conscious energy within each of the 15-dimensional frequency levels of this time matrix. This is a result of the process of Source stepping down its energy in the "The Stair Step Creation Process". In this process, Source maintains Itself as the perpetual and infinitely self-sustaining energy of Source that can never be depleted."


Part of our illusion of "Separation from Source" are the ego defenses we have built up about certain truths about ourselves or our situations -- in effect, defenses against reality. Therefore, at some point, we need an arena of safety in order to go through a process of dismantling these defenses, which may be painful for the ego to tolerate.

One of the easiest and most common defenses the ego can employ, is to pretend that it is already fully enlightened and is God, and that no such dismantling will be required. Here humility becomes useful, because finally we each are really only a tiny individuated expression of our Loving God/Source. This understanding should really be a cause for relief, celebration and love, as finally we have nothing to live up to or do, and our relationship with Eternity is authentic and assured.

xxxxx...... Leela


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She asked me "do you feel it?" "Do you feel it in your heart?" Amazingly, at that instant, I felt a great warmth of love in my heart. I said "yes, I do". She responded by saying, "Direct that feeling. Make it grow".

The feeling came back and for a good 5 minutes, it kept getting bigger and bigger within my heart.

I knew this is what will turn the tide of humanity, if we just allow it to happen. It is so simple, to allow. To be receptive to happiness.
 Quoting: Nrg


Hi Nrg, i feel you give a very strong message here, it reminds me of all the wonderful people i met since birth.

Considering them, they are totally different but have one thing in common, they let me be me, they gave me the space and time i needed. Even when i was expressing unhappiness it was ok. They must have known all along, i just did not get it before they were gone. Then i knew, alone again.
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I think I swallowed the red pill? doing good though.
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Hahahaha, thanks, i needed that.
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Does it matter if our universe was never what we thought it was?

""We had to believe the shape of the path into the stars - implied by all this ancient spiritual cosmogeny - was based somehow in deep physics ... well now we know... The hotest subject in PLASMA STELLAR PHYSICS TODAY (practically the entire Plasma Physics Dept - at the famous Los Alamos ) is after they spent years modelling the NINE NESTED TOROIDS which formed the PLASMA STORM FROM THE GALAXY HEART which has pretty much toasted all Earth DNA every 7 thousand years or so, they were mystified to find that the results of their hottest computer models - had already been carved on the ROCKS IN THEIR PARKING LOT by indigenous tribes thousands of years ago - AND on literally hundreds of ancient petroglyphs from virtually every major ancient tribe AROUND THE GLOBE...

That plasma storm - was called VISHNU"

"(practically the entire Plasma Physics Dept - at the famous Los Alamos )"

Because our leadership`s of humanity are looking at it , do we care?
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Does it matter if our universe was never what we thought it was?
 Quoting: femto


Thinking of my own question, I can not imagine it not being fundermentally important to every single aspect of human "being".

Effectivly at this moment of saying, I have a "closed mind" on this subject. IE: As I can imagine to-date, no circumstances that it would not matter, only it does matter exists in my reality.

Will change the moment I hear the words that alter my "closed mind."

Feel better for saying that.
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...thank you beloveds for sharing your wisdom...

...good morning sweet day...

Message from Archangel Michael
April 2008

"OPENING THE PATHWAY BETWEEN YOUR SACRED MIND AND YOUR SACRED HEART "

Transmitted Through Ronna Herman

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hf
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...the daily abraham quote for today is found at the top of the linked page...there are also quotes from the law of attraction that felt stimulating towards understanding and change...enjoy...

[link to www.abraham-hicks.com]


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Love is an exercise in duality to bring you to the understanding of unity. (c) Sunpar 11-22-2011
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I am going to take a risk now, posting on the current drama, sharing my thoughts on it.

I see Lea feeling I AM HURT, and she expresses it fully, she is totally honest about it, she holds nothing back. She must love herself dearly, allowing all these feelings to come out into the open.
With Ebidah the same, fearless about expressing his hurt, even explaining from were they arise, for all to understand, to take advantage of his past experience.
I see them actively healing themselves, being themselves, accepting themselves.
In this regard they are an example to all of us.

And then there is "the A-team", "the knights of Divs round table". Of which i declined to be part of on at least two occasions. Who like to say "i love you", "i love all".

And what do i see, they are unable to accept, unable to help Lea and Ebidah get past this suffering. In stead they themselves feel hurt, either ignore the suffering or attack the hurt ones and add to the suffering.

Sometimes posters come and ask for what is a lightworker? And then all kinds of wonderful answers are posted.
To me they are meaningless, i look at the fruits.

Also i like to take the opportunity to give my thoughts on "i love you". What does this mean? It is a hollow phrase, devoid of meaning. We add meaning to this phrase by our actions, showing we can give i-less attention to others or not.

If anyone feels hurt about what i said above, that is ok with me, you can become totally angry with me, yell and shout at me, let it all out, do not worry about me, i can take it.
It will help you to get a clearer perspective, this is my goal with the post, to help you because time is short.


thankyou for these words..

Lea is a beautiful soul, who has been stomped on more times than we have had hot dinners. Yes even Me i have hurt her too. and no she does not deserve pity! she deserves better than this. came here looking for help i think but sometimes one of the hardest things to do is ask for help...How many of us have been asked are you ok? and we answerd yes i am fine when all we really wanted to do was pour our hearts out but because we have been stomped on we just answer we are fine.

Me I am praying she comes through this... Praying with all my heart.. and let me tell you for me to pray means a hell of a lot..
 Quoting: Ebidah


Praying for you both that you FEEL the Light and warmth of God's Love now and forever. You are children of the Universe and no stone will be left unturned from the Light. Do not despair. God is not a man in the sky and no man can be a saviour to another. It's the Universal system which will rescue you and replenish you back to your original form - one of pure Love. Help is on its way, even for those who do not believe.

hf hf hf hf hf hf
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Hi AC, i remember your first post also, as i remember it it was factual, cold facts, this does not mean i agree with the conclusions, i see differently.


MISunderstandings. But Lea and ebidiah could not let it go and yet they is the ones praised for speaking ther minds. How is this not injustice?

Maybe to some Lea and Ebidah overreacted, possible if one only looks at what happened here superficially, forgetting a few things.

I was here already, i saw them arriving, they were invited by the thread title, calling lw's a meeting place...they came to visit the local lightworkers, or those who claim to be so.
Lea was warmly welcomed and started to open up. It was very obvious she was vulnerable, but started to feel at home. Then she was told she was not part of the group. Immediately she felt hurt, old pain came to the surface, like the dam broke, reliving certain experiences. Then when sorry is said, she is no longer allowed to feel hurt. Like it is some sort of button to push. Lea is only welcome when she pours tea, i saw no A-team workers trying to help Lea, except Cosmo. In my eyes you all failed miserably, you who claim to know so much, about love and light, who talk one way and act the other. You remind me of the rebels in "life of Brian"

And then you want justice, i am amazed at the guts, you who claim to be loving, pretend to be what you are not.

Hurting the hurt and then blaming them for it all.

So already i am sorry for the next vulnerable person who is going to trust your proclaimed wisdom. I am not expecting you to learn anything from this. I write to this person.
 Quoting: Darza


Just addressing the truth here, Darza. For the record, if you look back, I tried to help these people; Allie, Greenley, femto, Caruso, Xana, Dances, Cosmo and yourself all tried too. There were no in-roads in, as is plainly revealed in Lea's last post and Ebidah's last few. As you know, if people do not wish to be helped, it's impossible to give them a hand 'up'. 'Lightworkers failing' has been a common theme in the posts of Wasayo's, Lotus's, Ebidah's and now yours.

Your comments hurt me and I had to sleep on them before responding. Lotus and Wasayo go right over my head because I know what they're here for. But you, Darza, are genuine to me and I respect your opinion. Justice was never what was intended - nobody here wants a pound of flesh. If you can advise me how to keep this thread together while turning the other cheek, please tell me. If I hadn't used the spiritual warrior stance before, we would not have made it this far....not sure if you realise that.

Of course, NRG and Allie are great warriors for the Light and off-line, I am similar. But here, as much as I can aspire to be like them, I have to play Moderator - not GOD - simply someone to keep the thread stable. Wasayo would have wanted the demise of this thread months ago. The only time she posts is to pounce. I love and adore her, but I also feel as a mother does to her cubs about these Lightworkers who need to connect with each other. That is why I am here.


Historically, we have had many many AC's and new people join us (sorry Luke, but I give you as an example). You have witnessed how much help and advice we give to these confused and sometimes fearful ones who extend a hand of friendship to us. Have you ever seen me abuse that ?

Sometimes things are not what they appear to be, Darza. It's my job to see beyond the obvious. People don't need the details and wouldn't want them.

Here is a Sanctuary and, to me, amidst the Devil's Playground - it is sacred. That's my Agenda...the only one.

Thanks for listening,
Div
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p.s. could someone direct me to Karen's latest channelling please as there are some v. relevant paragraph about this very issue. Many thanks...
"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.

"PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
Here comes the Golden Age.

"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam

"Remember me as I AM." My Brother
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Praying for you both that you FEEL the Light and warmth of God's Love now and forever. You are children of the Universe and no stone will be left unturned from the Light. Do not despair. God is not a man in the sky and no man can be a saviour to another. It's the Universal system which will rescue you and replenish you back to your original form - one of pure Love. Help is on its way, even for those who do not believe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 367835

Hi Div, is that you?

You worry about Ebidah and Lea? They love themselves, they accepted their being. They dare to dot it, express themselves, to me this is human beauty. Beyond this i do not know, humans expressing genuine feelings, nothing compares to that.

They do not need us, they can do it on their own, but they are lucky, they have been through experience together, like me and Nahoj. They will always help eachother, they are like that. And they are even luckier, the universal energy used them to show truth, they allowed it, they are in very capable hands already, this is how i see it.

I worry for you, i know you mean well, you have to change now, it is no longer your choice. You asked for peace & love and the universe is offering it to you, you asked for it, you know how it works. It does almost never go as planned but the results are always beyond expectation. We talked about the ego/mind/personality. You wanted to keep it. That is ok, the universe just raises the pressure, if forces you, you can never win this, you asked for it.
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....blessing div...

...here you go...

[link to www.whatsuponplanetearth.com]

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Thank you, dearest hf hf hf

Extract from What's Up:

In addition, there is no compassion on the other side as there is no suffering. Deep caring can be awesome, but too much of it can allow us to give ourselves away. Love is pure and simple. We love but do not own or relate anymore to the energies of which we are no longer in alignment with. Love and limited caring until we are able to be only in pure love is perhaps the best scenario in dealing with these energies.

Love and move on. Understand and care briefly, and move on. And when we are in the spaces of these lower vibrating energies, vibrating love to them will keep our own vibrations high while allowing us to reside in these spaces of dimensional divide for a limited time.


As the doors have finally flown open for our new residency in a higher realms reality, staying back with these fearful energies will only serve to pull us down, delay our arrival, and devalue ourselves as well. We have most certainly earned this new chapter, or new book of the life of our wildest dreams, and putting ourselves first will guarantee our arrival with complete certainty.

Is this being selfish? One of the “keys of being” that is included in Stepping Into the New Reality (yes, finally out soon for those of you who may be interested!) is that we have to put ourselves first. We can’t pour water from an empty pitcher. This way of being also keeps our vibration high as well.

What about service? Yes, very important here in regard to the dimensional hierarchies. Non-physical beings don’t spend a lot of time in our dimension, even though they can be great advisors and love us dearly. They do not spend much time in our dimension because they cannot. Higher and lower vibrating energies cannot exist in the same space for long periods of time.

We can always go lower, but we cannot go higher until we are matching that higher vibration within ourselves. We are now being asked to go higher and stay there as we are now vibrating higher. When we drop down to assist those vibrating lower, at the space of the dimensional boundary, we can only stay there for limited times of service, vibrating love and assistance through our store-fronts, and then we must go back home.

And any lower than the dimensional divide is the old world. The old world is falling fast now. Here in the US, the economy is crashing, as the old world is experiencing a need to turn inside out while its value system is re-structuring. Staying out of the old world is a necessity now, as we do not want to go down with the ship.



The key to the other side?

Letting go of the burdens and responsibilities that are not ours. Letting go of the illusional “have to’s.” No longer being there for others. Allowing the energies and journeys of others to be their own. Focusing on where we are now vibrating, or the higher realms, and really seeing where we actually are instead of focusing on what is falling away. The higher realms is right in front of us and many times we do not even notice. Not taking on the energies of others, not doing it all, and not feeling responsible for the whole of the planet, as the planet is right where it needs to be.

Lots of “nots” here! How about this more higher vibrating version instead: Following our bliss. Allowing ourselves to put ourselves first. Owning our own journey. Staying true to our pure and authentic selves. Being in our own space. Supporting ourselves as this supports the whole as well. And letting go of the burdens.

The theme here is responsibility. Many may need to let go of being over-responsible, but there are others who will need to become more responsible for themselves. Either way, there is an imbalance.

Once we let go and extricate ourselves from the energies of others we will be catapulted like magic into a very new reality. I can assure you, your life will turn into the life of your wildest dreams.
"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.

"PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
Here comes the Golden Age.

"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam

"Remember me as I AM." My Brother
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...in searching for an anais nin quote i opened to this page...just wanted to share these many wisdoms...enjoy...

[link to www.wisdomquotes.com]


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Just addressing the truth here, Darza. For the record, if you look back, I tried to help these people; Allie, Greenley, femto, Caruso, Xana, Dances, Cosmo and yourself all tried too. There were no in-roads in, as is plainly revealed in Lea's last post and Ebidah's last few. As you know, if people do not wish to be helped, it's impossible to give them a hand 'up'. 'Lightworkers failing' has been a common theme in the posts of Wasayo's, Lotus's, Ebidah's and now yours.

Your comments hurt me and I had to sleep on them before responding. Lotus and Wasayo go right over my head because I know what they're here for. But you, Darza, are genuine to me and I respect your opinion. Justice was never what was intended - nobody here wants a pound of flesh. If you can advise me how to keep this thread together while turning the other cheek, please tell me. If I hadn't used the spiritual warrior stance before, we would not have made it this far....not sure if you realise that.

Of course, NRG and Allie are great warriors for the Light and off-line, I am similar. But here, as much as I can aspire to be like them, I have to play Moderator - not GOD - simply someone to keep the thread stable. Wasayo would have wanted the demise of this thread months ago. The only time she posts is to pounce. I love and adore her, but I also feel as a mother does to her cubs about these Lightworkers who need to connect with each other. That is why I am here.


Historically, we have had many many AC's and new people join us (sorry Luke, but I give you as an example). You have witnessed how much help and advice we give to these confused and sometimes fearful ones who extend a hand of friendship to us. Have you ever seen me abuse that ?

Sometimes things are not what they appear to be, Darza. It's my job to see beyond the obvious. People don't need the details and wouldn't want them.

Here is a Sanctuary and, to me, amidst the Devil's Playground - it is sacred. That's my Agenda...the only one.

Thanks for listening,
Div
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

p.s. could someone direct me to Karen's latest channelling please as there are some v. relevant paragraph about this very issue. Many thanks...
 Quoting: Divinity

Yes Div, i know you tried to help as did others, i cannot give you any answers, it is not my place to judge, i can only give you my experience, you have to decide for yourself what you do with it.

You look for others to help, i understand this feeling, i have it also, but you are the one who is in trouble, what can i do for you? How can i help you?
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The world and its conjectures of energetic paterns...

Lately... it has been imposible to interact or read a lot of what u saiyng...

many Vampires and incinceres on the thread
in egoic ways...
that dont anwser... the questions with sincerity

like Sump... wich trys to destroy light working on ma Vision

She is not united in Oneness... and she is controling and manipulating

any way caruso did a mistake... yep

And Lea did a tantrum in self pity.... cause a mistake was donne

errare humano es...

perdon is a virtue
and compassion another important one

the galaxy is moving and cleansing...

control is a caracter defect atitude...

NOT ALL are sincere and ready to work for Oneness in this thread

there are forces from the dark ignorance of secret societys

in here .... like CIA

will continue later





GLP