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Calling LIGHTWORKERS! A Meeting Place !

 
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no more answers

no more echoes
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yoda hf Ebidah, Lea,


skull_fing femto, Divinity, Floydian Slip, Ahim-sa, Kanandaa, caruso, xana, and all Divinity's Knights
Phoenix2012, Nrg, J.SMith, Yolgnu, Allie, Cosmo '08, Dances, GREY LENSMAN, sixpence, SunRa, ghostsister, thebbo, Leela

dynamite whateverall the fake Lightworker-lites here on Divinity's Lightworker-lite thread.






There, that list is more like it.

Im still 3rd :P


I have to go c the g and r the b but i will bbl

but until then...

a nice song about trolls

well, more about gnomes actually

[link to www.youtube.com]


and then one day

Hooray

another way for gnomes to say

hoooooooooooooooooooraaaaay

Look at the sky look at the river
isn't it good
 Quoting: floydian slip 335173



I DID NOT WRITE THIS.

FLOYDIAN SLIP GOT INSIDE MY POST AND RE-WROTE IT.

THIS IS NOT MY POST.

IT IS FLOYDIAN SLIP ILLEGALLY EDITING SOMEONE ELSE'S WORDS.

wtf, Div?


Wasayo
"Every word of God is pure: He is a shield unto them that put their trust in Him." Prov. 30:5
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oh well!

tsk! tsk!

Isn't there a saying???

What comes around goes around.

This is much different than "twisting" someones words.... of course, of which I do not agree with either.

Carry on and on and on.

The Circle is Complete ~~ there's no place to go but to spin off of it in a SPIRAL!

Catch my drift?

This is a process of evolving.
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hey guys, do not ILLEGALLY EDIT SOMEONE ELSE'S WORDS.

They are INTELECTUAL properties.
You may accidentally make someone feel stumpeed.


woot the fook, ...intellectually speaking

.c
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Sorry folks, I've not been ignoring you all. I am having horrendous connection problems here at the moment and have been off-line most of the day.

I will be right with you......! Again, sorry, Grasshopper, I am working on a reply.

Love Div
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Hi Cosmo

Love to see you exited.
Creations by your own ?
This one is for you.
:cosmocosmo:
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hi Oannes

tank u so much
loved it wingy
tx
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Please forgive the intrusion, but this thread seems to be monopolized by a select few. Thousands of pages of un-lightworker blogging. I've tried to glean bits and pieces of information here from what seems like two maybe three informative lightworkers. But it is tortuous to read thru post after post of personal crap. Is this blog/post even worth reading? Hundreds of people like myself are attracted to the title of this blog/post, but then find that it is full of mis-information and personal email stuff. Love you this, hate you that, horny this, poem that, just on and on. Very unfortunate, that "WE" are seeking truth and light only to get this..... I've said enuf, I wish this blog spot would have been what the title said it was. Pehaps Divinity should start a REAL lightworker post. Or maybe someone should keep task on folks that post crap. This is why this blog/post is in the top 20, because "we" keep clicking on it trying to find REAL information. Something to give us hope, other than the Zeta's harvest. Have a nice day anyway. I've said my piece, and I'm sure I've spoken for many many others.


You sound familiar.

Have a nice day dear.

xana
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This thread has many diferent cycles
vast chapters of a cosmic epic novel lol

Love to the anger
*~Cosmo~*08

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:bracelete: :arms: :piramide: Gaya :div: :cosmogenes: buddha :7: :borboletas: dna :budha: :integral: time machi life lightning one ovtrue 21122012..
can someone tell me what the symbol of the triangle with the 3 circles means? it is like a crop circle that appeared in east tennessee may 5th. thanks.
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Its the Flag of Peace ... Symbol

one Earth
One People
One Time
xana nli
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Please forgive the intrusion, but this thread seems to be monopolized by a select few. Thousands of pages of un-lightworker blogging. I've tried to glean bits and pieces of information here from what seems like two maybe three informative lightworkers. But it is tortuous to read thru post after post of personal crap. Is this blog/post even worth reading? Hundreds of people like myself are attracted to the title of this blog/post, but then find that it is full of mis-information and personal email stuff. Love you this, hate you that, horny this, poem that, just on and on. Very unfortunate, that "WE" are seeking truth and light only to get this..... I've said enuf, I wish this blog spot would have been what the title said it was. Pehaps Divinity should start a REAL lightworker post. Or maybe someone should keep task on folks that post crap. This is why this blog/post is in the top 20, because "we" keep clicking on it trying to find REAL information. Something to give us hope, other than the Zeta's harvest. Have a nice day anyway. I've said my piece, and I'm sure I've spoken for many many others.


You sound familiar.

Have a nice day dear.

xana
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This thread has many diferent cycles
vast chapters of a cosmic epic novel lol

Love to the anger
 Quoting: *~Cosmo~*08


Hi Cos...

As you know, we l/w persons are often ridiculed for being loving to hate-filled comments... not that it sticks to any of us, lol.

Anyway, love you for noticing. Thnx. and a big hug to you.

hf
.x
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Its the Flag of Peace ... Symbol

one Earth
One People
One Time
 Quoting: *~Cosmo~*08


Brilliant! So, this symbol has become a crop circle in Tennessee?

Seems as if some bunny's trying to tell us something!!

Okay Floydian.....where's a song for "Signs signs, everywhere a sign"....? :-)
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Its the Flag of Peace ... Symbol

one Earth
One People
One Time


Brilliant! So, this symbol has become a crop circle in Tennessee?

Seems as if some bunny's trying to tell us something!!

Okay Floydian.....where's a song for "Signs signs, everywhere a sign"....? :-)
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ok you just made the naughty list lol Oh and I forgot earlier... but Sunpar us definitely on the naughty list

spank

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Shapes of things before my eyes,
Will time make men more wise?


Now the trees are almost green.
But will they still be seen?
When time and tide have been.
Fall into your passing hands.
Please don't destroy these lands.
Don't make them desert sands.


Soon I hope that I will find,
Thoughts deep within my mind.
That won't displace my kind




oh wait... you meant this song

[link to www.youtube.com]

thank you grasshopper for thinkin bout me
Im alive and doin' fine

hf
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ok you just made the naughty list lol Oh and I forgot earlier... but Sunpar us definitely on the naughty list

spank

[link to www.youtube.com]


Shapes of things before my eyes,
Will time make men more wise?


Now the trees are almost green.
But will they still be seen?
When time and tide have been.
Fall into your passing hands.
Please don't destroy these lands.
Don't make them desert sands.


Soon I hope that I will find,
Thoughts deep within my mind.
That won't displace my kind




oh wait... you meant this song

[link to www.youtube.com]

thank you grasshopper for thinkin bout me
Im alive and doin' fine

hf
 Quoting: floydian spanked 335173


LOLOLOL That's IT! I was afraid I'd be Rick Rolled! Spanked and grassy and all FINE with the SIGN...and on the naughty list at last!! hf

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Thank you! Please keep us updated regularly, if you care to...I am VERY interested. hf

Weather Prediction based on my theory of Polarity of Electric charges between Earth ground and Ionosphere charge.

High, but thought to be not abnormal, electron content from the African Nation of Gabon, across the Atlantic to the far eastern reaches of Brazil. The rest of ionosphere appears to be low in charge. No serious weather event predicted for areas outside of the said areas above

In a few days time, a moderately strong disturbance of weather or other event possibly tied to Ionosphere charging will occur over South America's Brazil or Peru. Other significant weather systems may develop in the Atlantic between said Nations above.

However, my understanding of time delay is very rough and still in its infancy of calculation. Because of this, the events may occur in the Eastern Pacific near Peru or even over Africa.

Over all region of watch, mid-western Africa, Brazil-Peru South America, Atlantic Ocean between such nations said and Pacific Ocean near Peru. Target date is May 13th 2008 (+/- 3 days)

The total electron content is high in said areas but not thought to be extreme. So weather events may be moderate at best. The next solar event to impact the ionosphere will shed much more information and allow a possible prediction of the next great weather system.

this is my first real attempt to forecast based only on the electric theory in a more accurate manner. Accuracy should improve in time.
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Divinity nli
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Please forgive the intrusion, but this thread seems to be monopolized by a select few. Thousands of pages of un-lightworker blogging. I've tried to glean bits and pieces of information here from what seems like two maybe three informative lightworkers. But it is tortuous to read thru post after post of personal crap. Is this blog/post even worth reading? Hundreds of people like myself are attracted to the title of this blog/post, but then find that it is full of mis-information and personal email stuff. Love you this, hate you that, horny this, poem that, just on and on. Very unfortunate, that "WE" are seeking truth and light only to get this..... I've said enuf, I wish this blog spot would have been what the title said it was. Pehaps Divinity should start a REAL lightworker post. Or maybe someone should keep task on folks that post crap. This is why this blog/post is in the top 20, because "we" keep clicking on it trying to find REAL information. Something to give us hope, other than the Zeta's harvest. Have a nice day anyway. I've said my piece, and I'm sure I've spoken for many many others.
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Canundrum, thank you very much indeed for your observations.

I'm throwing this open for discussion because I feel the points you make are very important.

This IS a Meeting Place which covers a multitude of activities, one of which IS truth-seeking, another light-working, but at the same time, a place where we can feel comfortable and support each other at times when it's needed.

Lightworkers? Comments please?

Love and thanks,
Div
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Please forgive the intrusion, but this thread seems to be monopolized by a select few. Thousands of pages of un-lightworker blogging. I've tried to glean bits and pieces of information here from what seems like two maybe three informative lightworkers. But it is tortuous to read thru post after post of personal crap. Is this blog/post even worth reading? Hundreds of people like myself are attracted to the title of this blog/post, but then find that it is full of mis-information and personal email stuff. Love you this, hate you that, horny this, poem that, just on and on. Very unfortunate, that "WE" are seeking truth and light only to get this..... I've said enuf, I wish this blog spot would have been what the title said it was. Pehaps Divinity should start a REAL lightworker post. Or maybe someone should keep task on folks that post crap. This is why this blog/post is in the top 20, because "we" keep clicking on it trying to find REAL information. Something to give us hope, other than the Zeta's harvest. Have a nice day anyway. I've said my piece, and I'm sure I've spoken for many many others.

Canundrum, thank you very much indeed for your observations.

I'm throwing this open for discussion because I feel the points you make are very important.

This IS a Meeting Place which covers a multitude of activities, one of which IS truth-seeking, another light-working, but at the same time, a place where we can feel comfortable and support each other at times when it's needed.

Lightworkers? Comments please?

Love and thanks,
Div
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I feel that in order to grow a fine garden of beautiful flowers, it takes sunshine, rain, nurturing and fertilizer. It's ALL good!

hf
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The Great Central Sun through Karen Danrich "Mila"
April 18, 2001


The Great Central Sun is coming to learn and understand so very much more than ever before as a result of the continued sharing of records from Earth's experience in our own unconscious. Indeed such shifts are having effects upon the Great Central Sun as we assess our own parallel distortion and then make related corrections. Such shifts come after a long period of non-evolution, and therefore the change seems greater than ever following a long period of non-change. So may ascension upon Earth feel much like a grand rectification with so much change after a long period of the same dance over time.

Indeed, Riza and the Order of Rize have called the period of non-change a "self perpetuating thought-form". Riza is currently ensouling Earth and holding Language of Light tri and quad tones in Earth's energy field. This soul group also is in governance of all karmic boards upon Earth and within the Great Central Sun. The Riza Soul Group is a part of the Intervention of Source of All overseeing the rectification of distortion throughout your respective All That Is. It is through the Riza Soul Group that a better understanding of the distortion surrounding incomplete ascensions is coming to be known by the ensouling factor of your Great Central Sun.

A "self-perpetuating thought form" is one that cannot and will not change and repeats the same dance over and over again without end. Following the nuclear explosion of the Annanuki reign upon Earth some 30,000 years ago, humanity and Earth fell into a self-perpetuating thought-form. The dance that was set up in the drama that occurred in such a moment has repeated again and again endlessly in your human dance for the past 30,000 years of human history (120,000 human years).

THE CAST OF CHARACTERS

In human form, there is a cast of characters. The cast of characters in human form represent those whom during their incarnations created key karmic incidents that have continued to influence the thought-form of mankind ever since. The reasons that the thought-form from the last cast of characters has continued to influence mankind is that such lifetimes caused Earth to fall into a self-perpetuating cycle that has no relationship to anywhere else in creation.

Thought-form upon Earth is finite, which is not so elsewhere in the Great Central Sun, or the Ovum of 4000 dimensions of which we are related or Source of All. Within all other sectors of creation, thought-form is infinite and interconnected in a manner that allows for evolution and ascension. Upon Earth, thought-form became separated off and ceased to interconnect with the thought-form of the dimensions above Earth, and in so doing, became self-perpetuating. In so doing, Earth also ceased to evolve.

In ascension, one examines all cause of a particular circumstance, and then little by little in so understanding what one's ancestry has caused, reverses the cause and works their way out of the created experience of distortion. So it is for all dimensions within all creations that dance with distortion and then exit the distortion when complete and return to the ONE again. However, such creations do not consider their dance as distorted as Earth, but rather as an experiment that allows for evolution, growth and understanding. However, a thought-form that is created that allows not for evolution, growth or understanding is sincerely distortion from our point of view, and this is what a self-perpetuating thought-form is, distorted thought-form in which evolution and understanding cease.

The Great Central Sun has been examining the cast of characters in human form that caused the distortion upon Earth. In so understanding their dance, the Great Central Sun can then likewise examine our own dance and release parallel cause that could lead to the same circumstance for us as has occurred for Earth. For if the Great Central Sun also fell into a self perpetuating thought-form, the Great Central Sun would likewise cease to evolve, and could become trapped upon these dimensions for eons of time. Therefore we are in gratitude for the lessons that the cast of characters upon Earth are assisting us in also understanding.

It is important for ascending humans to understand that you are one race, regardless of the varying lineages related to the dance of life. As one race, each will find that one's own ancestral experience crosses over all experiences of all nations that have ever existed upon Earth. Each has therefore experienced both the effect of the atrocities created by certain characters, and was likewise responsible for certain atrocities themselves in one's own ancestry. In ascension, one comes to understand intimately those atrocities created or experienced by one's own ancestral lineages, and in so doing, one comes to understand humility and compassion. For if one's ancestry has created atrocities, then one must forgive their ancestry for such. And if one has experienced being victim to the atrocities of others, then one must forgive the other and oneself for falling victim to the dominion of another.

Forgiveness gives birth to ascension. Forgiveness gives birth to an understanding of all dances that have ever occurred, and in understanding all dances, one chooses simply not to partake in them again, or to change the thought-form at cause of the dance in the first place. It is forgiveness that allows for the change in thought-form, for as one forgives, one then can release the thought-form at cause and embrace a new thought-form that transcends the destructive dance in one's prior ancestry. As this is so for each ascending human, so it is for each ascending species upon Earth, and each ascending planet or star within the Great Central Sun. It is for this reason that we of the Great Central Sun take the time now to examine the contributing members of the cast of characters upon Earth so that each ascending human may examine their own tapestry and release their own related karma therein.

KEY PLAYERS IN EARTH'S HISTORY IN REVIEW

Sirian Seeded Race

The cast of characters upon Earth at cause of creating the self-perpetuating thought-form comes from many places. Such characters are related to the seeded red race that came to Earth 50,000 years ago from Sirius. Those related to the red race in present day terms are known as Eskimos, Native Americans, Aborigines, Africans, Polynesians, Tibetans and South American Indians. The red race has had the same occurrence repeat multiple times in history. Each of these races were once overrun by the "white" Annanuki and their scientists, their land stripped, and often they were slaughtered to retain the dominion of the Annanuki over Earth. Again and again the white race has repeated the same pattern to the red in your history, even your current history.

High Priest and Priestess

The red High Priest and Priestess of Earth were those of the seeded red race whom were designed to hold the energy flow between humanity and Earth and at a later point in the lifetime, ascend. In essence, one could think of the High Priest and Priestess as the King and Queen of Earth, whom also had a court of Kings and Queens that were regional and had parallel regional responsibilities. The red race was the guardians of the land and operated in alignment with all other kingdoms to hold the energy flow and sustain Earth's vibration along with unity in the human dance.

Innana or Aphrodite or Venus

A member of the Annanuki family known as Innana seduced the High Priest. In so doing, Innana accessed through the sexual energy flow all information held by the High Priest and Priestess and stripped it, and altered the course of their lives to one of fatal destruction. The High Priest and Priestess ended up captured and killed by Innana and Merduk whom ceremonially dissected their forms drinking of their blood and eating of their major organs and glands. This was done to obtain a biological understanding of what the High Priest and Priestess knew.

Many other of the Priests and Priestesses holding regional responsibilities were either seduced and/or killed and consumed in a parallel manner to the High Priest and Priestess or King and Queen. It is perhaps where the thought-form of the vampire originally comes from. Each was consumed by the Annanuki for the knowledge that they contained. In the transference of such knowledge, the red race lost their power and ability to overcome the Annanuki and throw them off of Earth.

However, we also point out that Sirius refused to support the red race and come to their defense. It is now understood that there was a treaty between Sirius and the Pleiades to allow for the Pleiadian reign over Earth. There was a deep understanding of betrayal of the red seeded nation by their planet of origin as a result of this outcome. It may be for such reasons that the Priests and Priestesses were unable to prevent the dominion of the Annanuki over their own nations.

Persephone and Merduk or Hades

Persephone was a red woman whom married and mated with Merduk, one brother of the Annanuki. This was an inter-racial marriage that was rejected by the rest of the Annanuki family, much like interracial marriages are rejected to this day in your current dance. Merduk stripped Persephone and the red seeded race of all ancient knowledge through his sexual relationship to her, hoarding it for himself and utilizing it for retention of dominion over Earth and immortality. The red race was intertwined in a common energy flow. It only took only one entry into one red human's energy field to access the energy flow and knowledge of the entire race. From the point of view of the Great Central Sun, this is a fatal flaw in the nature of energy movement of the human dance in the lower dimensions. Much like dominoes, if one is taken out, so are all, as they are all interconnected without boundaries that are protective in nature.

Innana along with Merduk manipulated in every way possible to retain dominion over Earth, and extend their lives 18,000 years, 16,000 years beyond what any human form was designed to live. These humans along with their relatives stripped Earth and the red race of all knowledge necessary to sustain their immortality. In so doing, all knowledge to fuel human ascension was removed from the seeded race and utilized instead for life extension of the Annanuki.

The Annanuki or Family of Anu

The Annanuki stripped Earth of minerals for profit in exchange after exchange with other star systems along with the Pleiades. Over time so many minerals were stripped that the ice shields once anchored around Earth held in place through their vibrations collapsed creating your oceans. These ice shields had been constructed by the red race to support Earth's vibration in preparation for her future ascension. The largest loss of land for the original red seeded race occurred as the oceans were created. It has now been estimated that over 18 billion members of the red race drowned as the ice shields collapsed. The Annanuki took off in their craft and were not affected.

The Annanuki brought with them a group of scientists that came from the Pleiades during various timeframes, manipulating Earth's energy flow to support the goal of immortality for the Annanuki along with their dominion. Indeed Earth had an energy flow that was not conducive to the Annanuki, and such energy flow was scientifically manipulated to create a electrical and radioactive biosphere. This in turn caused problems for the seeded red race that were not genetically designed to resonate with the electrical or radioactive energy flow. It also caused problems for Earth as a whole whom began to decline in vibration due to such manipulations.

The Slave Race

The Annanuki and their scientists created two sets of slave races, one of which were utilized to mine gold and serve them, and another was developed later for warfare. The Annanuki held dominion over the slaves with a barbaric form of control that included death or torture for punishment, and ritualistic forms of sacrifice in which then the blood of the slaves was consumed by the "Gods" or Annanuki themselves. This was considered the "elixir" of the Gods and indeed the consumption of blood was utilized to sustain the lengthy life of Innana and Merduk. It is why such incidents as sacrifice and torture along with the consumption of human flesh or blood have repeated again and again in history. Once such a remembrance has been anchored in the tapestry of ancestry, it shall recur until humans choose to ascend out of the thought-form at cause.

The second slave race was created as a war broke out between Innana and Merduk for dominion over Earth. This war raged 1000 years. In the battlefields, the war slaves were annihilated by the thousands over territorial disputes between Innana and Merduk. The records from such battlefields, most of which are under Earth's oceans, but a few of which are upon the land, have been released as of late in Earth's ascension. It is now understood why such horrific forms of destruction have recurred again and again in human history, for the annihilation of the slaves was far greater than Earth had ever anticipated. It is now anticipated that over 1 billion slaves were sacrificed in such battles.

Red Race Manipulations

The red race by in large stayed away from the battlefields and were not implicated in such destruction. However it was the remaining spiritual leadership of the red race that pitted Innana and Merduk against one another in the hopes that it would cause the Annanuki to leave Earth. Instead, the dance lead to the unexpected annihilation of Earth as Merduk chose to explode two large nuclear bombs to retain his dominion, causing a minor ice age, and causing the subsequent further loss of consciousness of the remaining red people. The war between Innana and Merduk did have the final effect of causing the Annanuki to leave Earth. However, this occurred at the expense of all species upon Earth due to the effects of nuclear poisoning.

Life Extension Practices

It is now understood that the life extension techniques over time caused Innana and Merduk to go insane, for the nervous system begin to break down the longer that they lived. No human form was designed for immortality upon your dimension. Therefore the form would naturally break down over time regardless of how much care was taken to preserve the life. It is from the insanity that Earth was stripped of minerals beyond her own capacity to hold the ice shields in place, and later that the war raged amongst the Annanuki destroying so many lives of the slave race, and ultimately annihilating earth in a nuclear holocaust.

The nuclear holocaust is now anticipated to have killed over 6 billion humans of slave or red origin. Those that remained were reduced to barbarism and the eating of flesh to survive. The genetic material declined and declined over 18 generations following the holocaust causing such a great loss of consciousness that there was not enough knowledge to repair what had occurred.

The Inner Earth People

Those less implicated by the nuclear holocaust moved to the inner Earth. Indeed a human civilization that was far less compromised exists within the inner Earth to this day. The governance of the Inner Earth has run into conflict with each civilization upon the outer Earth over time, and has learned noninterference. In so doing, the people of the inner Earth have remained a separate and distinct nation from the remainder of humans upon the surface of the Earth.

However, in relation to inheritance, all humans upon Earth originate from the same mixture of lineages regardless of where the form lives. All humans are responsible for all karma incurred in the human dance whether it is upon the surface of the Earth or within the inner Earth. This too the people of the inner Earth are coming to understand in their own respective ascension.

A NEW FUTURE FOR EARTH

Your current civilization is the second human civilization to rise since the era of the Annanuki. Each prior civilization has risen and then destroyed themselves in a nuclear holocaust just like their predecessors. Earth is on the brink of experiencing this yet once again, except for the small numbers of humans whom are choosing to ascend upon the surface of the Earth. This small number of ascending humans combined with those of the inner Earth, which is the smallest group representing an entire species upon any ascending planet or star in the entire history of all creations within your ovum, is altering the course of Earth's history.

This small group of humans, of which many reading this material are a part, is choosing to release the karma incurred in the reign of the Annanuki. In so doing a new future may unfold, and all may change. These small numbers of humans are anchoring a new Divine Plan for Earth and the human species, one that allows for an awakening of more of the human populace and a biological ascension of Earth to the next dimension over the coming 1000 years.

We of the Great Central Sun tell you, our brothers and sisters in human form, that the winds of change are upon you! Nothing, nothing will remain the same. All shall change, and that which does not change shall perish in physicality. The change is the result of the rectification of energy flow after a long period of non-change in which the self-perpetuating thought-form locked everything upon Earth into the same endless dance of patterns. The self-perpetuating thought-form is now beginning to break up, and this allows for the Language of Light, the unity based thought-form that is emerging amongst ascending species, to take hold global wide upon your planet.

What does this mean exactly, a new Divine Plan and the breakdown of the current thought-form that the human species relies upon? It means that your civilization as you know it shall begin to crumble. Many may not realize that your civilization is very fragile, as it is founded upon a small set of thought-forms that were created to hold a limited slave race under the dominion of the Annanuki. Such thought-form is so limited that it is based upon only 18 concepts, and as these concepts are shattered, much like the rug being pulled out from under you, the foundation that humanity believes shall always be there shall crumble.

Many of you have prayed for an awakening of mankind and for more of your human brothers and sisters to ascend. Indeed this has been granted by the Intervention of the One Source, or the Source of All as a part of the Easter Blessings administered to Earth as of late. As such, a new era shall now emerge, and shall have different consequences than if fewer humans ever awakened and ascended. It is our wish to bring to light such changes so that the map makers of ascension and those paving the way for others to follow can be aware of the impending shifts in your collective consciousness ahead.

What are these 18 thought-forms? We bring them to your awareness so that you may choose, as an ascending human, to release them and embrace a unity based thought-form in their place. What is the unity-based thought-form? It is nothing other than the Language of Light (see "Language of Light" upon our web site.) In so doing, your current foundation shall crumble, making way to a new foundation that shall be well in place as civilization falls apart. This is necessary, as many ascending ahead of time are the new leadership for the human race. For who is going to be there as civilization crumbles? Who is going to tell your brothers and sisters, "This way! This is what we can create now! And it can be founded upon equality, joy, unity and love!" Is this not your job beloved? Is this not why you are ascending now?

Each of these 18 thought-forms is self-perpetuating in nature. Many lifetimes have been lived as examples of such thought-forms. We will take the first thought-form, which is "Slavery" and explain. There have been hundreds of lifetimes in any initiate's ancestry in which one's ancestor has been either the master or the slave. For every lifetime as master, there must be one as slave in counterbalance. However, there is no manner out of the dance of master/slave, as there is no thought-form provided to allow for the transcendence. Therefore, the ancestry simply repeats the experience of master and then slave, master and then slave, master and then slave, forever, or until transcendence and ascension begins. Ascension shall break the cycle of each of these thought-forms for all ancestors incarnate over time. In so doing, ascending humans can work themselves out of their current paradigm of slavery into a new one of freedom and unity.

Those that are mastering unity consciousness in ascension are map making a new thought-form to replace those that are self-perpetuating in nature. The foundation of this new thought-form is known as the 10 octaves of love within the Language of Light. The 10 octaves of love are founded upon 10 concepts known as forgiveness, truth, non-conditional love, compassion, freedom, and breath of life, divine union, unity, and non-conditional governance. As one transcends each of these 18 self-perpetuating thought-forms in the act of ascension, they embrace a new foundation based upon the 10 octaves of love. (See "The Ten Octaves of Love" upon our web site for more detailed information about the foundation of the Language of Light).
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Wasayo~Astrolabe ~

I know you wouldn't include me on this above, re-edited list as I know you know I don't consider myself a Lightworker so no worries from me. The Dark are my lessons, the Light is what I do with those lessons. I walk the Middle Path (of course I am a work-in-progress so I stray at little, occasionally, in both directions).

Had such a monumental dream last night. Can't wait to share when it is all sorted out :D!!!

And thank you so much for the LOVE BLASTS you have sent to Chuck, myself and the friends we are working with. It is most certainly felt. Today has been such a bright day. I really appreciate this from you and all who are doing so for us. They are absorbed and most certainly reflected everyone! ;D!

Much Love to All, ONE!
I Love you all,
You are aspects of the ONE,
You ARE the ONE truly,
I Love myself,
I Love you,
ONE,

O!
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Wasayo~Astrolabe ~

I know you wouldn't include me on this above, re-edited list as I know you know I don't consider myself a Lightworker so no worries from me. The Dark are my lessons, the Light is what I do with those lessons. I walk the Middle Path (of course I am a work-in-progress so I stray at little, occasionally, in both directions).

Had such a monumental dream last night. Can't wait to share when it is all sorted out :D!!!

And thank you so much for the LOVE BLASTS you have sent to Chuck, myself and the friends we are working with. It is most certainly felt. Today has been such a bright day. I really appreciate this from you and all who are doing so for us. They are absorbed and most certainly reflected everyone! ;D!

Much Love to All, ONE!
I Love you all,
You are aspects of the ONE,
You ARE the ONE truly,
I Love myself,
I Love you,
ONE,

O!
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Dear Allie,

You know me very well ~ and I put my money where my mouth is. I would never hurt you, and I would never include your name like this.

FLOYDIAN SLIP EDITED MY POST ILLEGALLY. FLOYDIAN SLIP GOT INSIDE MY POST AND CHANGED THE WORDS.

caruso is laughing about it ~ so is Ahim-sa ~ and AC 428787 and do you know what is really nasty about all this today (and yesterday)?

Divinity does not give a shit.

In fact, right now Div is mad, ignoring me, and not replying. Business as usual. SHR is aware.


Love YOU, Wasayo
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I say again --Stop it.
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Divinity does not give a shit.

In fact, right now Div is mad, ignoring me, and not replying.
Business as usual. SHR is aware.


Love YOU, Wasayo
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Yesterday you accused her of trolling, right after she answered your post.

Make up your mind, for goodness sake.


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1. SLAVERY

The thought-form of slavery effects humans in a multitude of ways. We invite each reading this material to look at where they in their life expression are currently enslaved by another. There is enslavement to the job, to the family, and to the mortgage. There is enslavement to friends that are not friendships of love, but one's of duty and obligation. And there is enslavement to one's current place of residence. All such enslavement is related to attachment between the etheric body and the person, place or object that one is attached to. Such attachment is gradually released as one lifts up in vibration and ascends, causing the cords to be severed, allowing one to become free.

As one is freed, one may not pay the bills any more, or the taxes, or one may leave the marriage, leave the family, and leave the friends that they do not love behind, and move to a place that brings their heart joy. And this all is the result of pent-up change from one's ancestry. For your ancestry has been enslaved by the same "others" and "region" for 30,000 years beloved! It is why perhaps the sense of freedom that occurs as those whom are ascending release the bonds that have enslaved them for so long is so great, so joyous, so magnificent! Allow the joy as the freedom occurs, and know that you are freeing yourself for all ancestries that have been enslaved by another over time.

For some, the history of slavery has been more recent, as in the African American story. However, understand that all humans related to the slave race are enslaved, whether one's life dance is a direct reflection of such an experience or an indirect one. How free are you really? The current human dance is far from free, and even those of great wealth are just as enslaved by their dance as the ones that work to support their dominion. In the dance of slavery, all are enslaved, all are imprisoned, and all that ascend shall free themselves in due course.

This in and of itself, if great enough and by enough humans, shall cause the breakdown of civilization. For what if the vast majority in your country of origin refuses to pay the taxes beloved? Would not the country break down in a year for lack of funds? If enough ascend, there shall be a tax revolt, and this shall be a reflection of the collective populations freeing themselves from their enslaved state. Our channel shall not cause this, but rather the ascension of larger numbers of humans global wide! As these thought-forms apply not only to individual relations, but group relations and all of civilization at large.

And what if large numbers of humans in their ascensions simply stop paying on the mortgage and credit card debts? What then? Will not your financial institutions collapse beloved? From our perspective, giving and receiving is so far out of balance in the human dance that a radical shift shall occur. Such is the nature of pent up change, to the degree it has been pent up, to that degree of extremity the rectification shall be. Your financial institutions are functioning under a false umbrella of seeming wealth. The wealth is sustained only as the masses continue to pay upon the credit, or continue to use the credit, or continue to believe in the high cost of living and housing and pay upon the mortgage. What if the masses suddenly refuse to pay? What then? It shall all collapse. And humans shall refuse to pay and leave such homes and debts behind the further that they ascend, as ascension brings about freedom from all that enslaves one's current life expression.

2. MANIPULATION

The thought-form of manipulation effects humans in many ways. In your current dance, it is often deemed more appropriate to manipulate another into doing one's bidding than directly communicating one's needs. This is slave communication directly related to the slave race, which were prohibited from directly communicating their needs, wants, desires, feelings or experiences to the Annanuki. Indeed, the Annanuki perceived the slaves as "pets". Pets do not have import other than the pleasure that the pet gives, and certainly does not have a consciousness that is deemed of great import.

Often the indirect communication occurs with those in one's life expression of direct Annanuki lineage, for these are the ones that one is prohibited from expressing to. However, there are so many with direct lineage to the Annanuki, and often such humans hold power over others or are in positions of authority of one sort or another. There may be more than one of such individual in any ascending human's life dance as there are so many with connection to the Annanuki.

The slaves had no power as the Annanuki as master held all power. It is therefore the nature of those of slave inheritance to give their power to those of the Annanuki inheritance in the life dance. Such humans with Annanuki inheritance take power from all those of slave inheritance surrounding them, and then utilize such power to inflate themselves into positions of power or authority. Often such acquire over time the position of boss, director, governor, president, or C.E.O. The greater the direct lineage to the Annanuki, the greater the power such humans have in the life expression.

As ascending humans clear their slave karma and thought-form, they shall cease to give power to the authorities of Annanuki inheritance. In retrieving the power given to authority figures, and if this occurs en mass, all humans currently with power or authority shall lose their power over time. Each human in power whom loses their power shall then create their own downfall, their own removal from office, or removal from the position of power that they had inflated themselves into. Over time, all of the old form of leadership and governance shall collapse allowing a new form of leadership to emerge from those whom are ascending.

Your current leadership is founded upon manipulation in full. Such leaders manipulate to attain their positions of authority, regardless of how they may appear in relation to public reputation. This is the result of the fact that the Annanuki manipulated for their power, stripping power from the seeded Red Race for dominion over Earth. Just like the Annanuki themselves, such current forms of authority figures run veils of illusion that allow them to appear perfect or to be perceived as what the masses wish to see in such a position. As the power is removed from such authority figures by the ascending masses, suddenly all of the dirty laundry under the veils of illusion shall be seen in the current governance! And what then? Shall not some countries impeach their presidents and overthrow their monarchies?

Many have heard that the time is coming that the dance of the secret governance shall be revealed in full. Such a dance involves most humans of great power world wide, and will they also not be implicated in such revelations? It is not our channel that shall reveal such information, as she is not privy to such information, but those whom know. Those that know will speak their truth at last, even if it causes them to be assassinated. Why? Ascending humans learn to stand in their truth and speak it. Those whom hold such secrets, if they ascend, shall feel called to speak their truth. And what then? Well, the cat will be out of the bag, and the masses shall respond according to the nature of the revelation.

What if you discover that your governance is adding viruses to the water to make the masses ill and keep them subservient? What if you discover that your governance is utilizing vibration to hold the evolution of the masses down? What if you discover that your governance had information that could heal most diseases, but refuses to share it out due to the desire to control the populace? What if you knew that your governance held blueprints for technological development that is magnetic and in resonance with Earth, but shelved it for their own greed? Think this is not so? Look again. Lift the veils beloved, and look. This is so, and soon those whom know it to be so shall speak their truth and there shall be a mass correction towards those in governance responsible for such things. They shall be impeached and thrown from office and imprisoned for harming the masses. Is this not how all change has occurred in your history? Was it not the French that overthrew their monarchy and beheaded them? Was this not a prelude to this time period ahead?

As ascending humans lift beyond manipulations of the governance, they shall cease to be controlled by the current governance and financial elite. They shall rebel en mass, and force corrections to the current regime in control that harm! The current governance harms beloved. They harm Earth through pollution, and they harm the masses in order to keep the masses subordinate and under their control. There is 30,000 years of pent up manipulations and control of the masses in your civilizations' karmic records of a parallel nature. When karma is settled that has been pent up, the corrections equal the energy held in check. Much like an arrow that has been pulled back and back and back upon the bow, and is finally released. Does it not fly further than all others? In a parallel manner, the karma surrounding the control of human civilization has been pent up, and as it is corrected, it shall explode and change exponentially!

Where shall such change come from? We foresee grass movement after grass movement of protesters whom will not stand for the current governmental control! Why? Because the masses behind such movements shall ascend out of the subordination that they have been held under for 30,000 years! They shall refuse to be manipulated into subordination ever again, and shall demand equality for all. This shall over time bring changes to every aspect of civilization and a correction to the inequality and manipulations that has created homelessness and poverty, hunger and war.

3. CONTROL

The current human dance is founded upon control. One is controlled by the governance through the financial institutions, through the media, through the militia, through the police, through the IRS, through the CIA, along with all other positions of public authority. One is considered a good citizen if one behaves inside of the rules that civilization is constructed from. Is this not slave mentality beloved? Indeed the Annanuki created laws for the slaves to behave within, thinking them of lower consciousness than themselves and requiring such a thing. The seeded red race didn't operate under such laws, as in unity they were simply not required. In unity, one only acts out of the greater good of the whole at all times, and in so doing, the very things outlawed in your current paradigm simply do not occur.

If one ascends, one moves under a new law, which is spiritual in nature and of a far higher authority than any human law, which is the law of harmlessness. If one embraces the laws of harmlessness, what use is your current paradigm of law? Harmlessness is a state in which one works in unity and non-conditional love with all other humans along with all other species. The current paradigm of law will have no use, particularly after the cleansing of those whom are not ascending in earth's continued ascension.

As civilization is restructured, new laws and a new form of governance shall emerge. It shall emerge out of the paradigm of unity and harmlessness, as only those humans remaining shall have ascended into such a paradigm. Harmlessness does not seek to control another, but rather allows. In a state of harmlessness, one allows all others their dance in the greater understanding that life is a spiritual journey with many lessons, and often such lessons are best learned in the experience of the dance. It shall be in the dance of ascension that the remaining humans shall remember unity, and out of unity, shall not harm another again. Most laws outlaw harm of one sort or another, and therefore shall not be required. In so being, a new form of unity based law shall emerge.

There are other laws in the current paradigm that keeps the rich rich and the poor poor. These too shall require alteration as ascension brings forth balanced giving and receiving along with a state of abundance. In a state of abundance, only that which is needed is received, and all else is shared. Those that hoard to an excess such as the extreme rich shall perish or transcend, and in transcending, shall learn to share their resources to assist all others. For this is the unity paradigm in action, and in so doing, the poor shall cease to be poor and the needs of all shall be fulfilled upon.

The laws that hold the rich rich and poor poor shall likewise cease as humanity evolves out of such a paradigm. In so doing, new laws shall be founded that shall uphold the right of each human to be fed, sheltered, nurtured, honored, and to contribute to the whole of civilization in whatever manner that they can. Moving from the paradigm of control to honor shall not be an easy journey, for most humans have only remembrance of control, for so lengthy is your history of civilization based upon control that humans have forgotten the unity based law founded upon honor. In the forgetfulness, there shall be struggle to find a new way of relating and a new form of law that works and serves the whole. It may take close to a century for the new unity paradigm to be reflected in all areas of life expression, but this we see coming beloved.

There are some races that inherently remember unity-based law. These nations shall rise when the time is right and become living examples of a new form of community and law that honors. In paying attention to what works for such nations, the new law shall spread and become global in nature. The ascending nations shall lead humanity home to such a new state of relations and the new paradigm of honor. This shall occur as each ascending nation creates their own sovereignty from the world powers that be and are allowed to express their truth in full.

4. SECRECY

In the current human dance, there is an ongoing need to keep something hidden, that one is not to reveal "all of their cards", that one must lie and not be honest with another. Where did such behavior come from? The Annanuki did not share their cards with either the seeded red race or the slaves. They kept large secrets, and in the lack of knowing by all, manipulated the fate of Earth in a direction that perhaps would not have occurred if the cards had been laid upon the table. Those of Annanuki inheritance therefore are predisposed to keeping secrets, lying, cheating, or manipulating all events in their own favor to retain their own power, wealth or position of authority.

The slaves, on the other hand, had nothing to hide for they had no power. They were honest amongst one another, but learned to behave as the Annanuki wished or otherwise they were killed or sent to the mines from which no one ever returned alive. Therefore the slaves also learned to hide and hold secrets in order to survive. However the requirement to hold secrets to survive is very different from holding secrets to retain power, and create very different forms of dances in those humans related to one or both patterns.

In unity, one comes to a place of becoming one's "authentic self". The authentic self hides nothing, for there is nothing to hide. If one truly understood that one's ancestors along with all souls in observation of the human dance could see everything anyway, they would come to understand that secrets only occur upon the physical plane.

Oh, for a long time, many of Earth's and human records had been erased in parallel patterns of secrecy or cover-ups of the prior spiritual elite or ascended masters of Earth, but such records are being recovered and recomposed through global ascension and human ascension. All of such secrets are coming to be known. In a similar manner to anticipated changes in world governance as the secrets of the secret government come to be understood, the spiritual hierarchies and ascended masters have been tossed from Earth for what they had perpetrated that did not honor the whole of Earth.

In a parallel manner to this, there are many souls whom ascended from the Pleiades to the Great Central Sun whom have perpetrated similar acts of discord and manipulation as the ascended masters upon Earth over time. Each of these likewise has been removed from the Great Central Sun as of late as the truth of their actions could be seen in full. And so it shall now occur in the physical of the human dance, for the nonphysical occurs prior to the physical. Just as all secrets have been revealed of those beings in dominion of Earth in Earth's ascension, now all secrets held by all governance over the human form shall likewise come to light. In so doing, there shall be a parallel shift in governance and power as has occurred in the nonphysical realms related to Earth. For the nonphysical always precedes the physical.

As one moves towards their authentic self, one leaves shame behind. Shame is what causes one to hold secrets or hide this or that about oneself from others. Shame is a vibration that is electrical in nature and is transcended as one embraces harmlessness or embodies Bodhisattva in their personal ascension. As shame leaves, there is no need to hide anything, and one moves into authentic relations with all others.

In authentic relations, one feels however one feels in the moment. For those whom are ascending, one also recognizes that one is continually processing one's inner-landscape, and sometimes there is great pain as one brings to consciousness the pain that one's ancestors existed or died within. As the pain moves, one recovers and finds the joy again. The authentic self ceases to hide the pain that one may be in, as it is the way one feels in the moment. In ceasing to hide how one feels, one learns to embrace oneself as one is in the moment. As one embraces oneself unconditionally, one then learns to embrace all others unconditionally. This is the foundation of the Bodhisattva, the unconditional acceptance of all others in the dance of life.

Human relations change as others in a group become their authentic self and unconditionally accept one another. Competition ceases, and collaboration and cooperation begins. Our channel has created an organization that has gradually left competition behind and is emerging into the unity paradigm of collaboration as a collective. It has not been an easy journey and her "Notes to Our Affiliates" section upon the web site demonstrates the struggle inherent in altering group relations from secrecy, manipulation and control to the new unity paradigm. However, the experience also gives others an understanding of the changes ahead in group-relations for all humans as those that ascend shall alter the manner in which they relate to one another.

Ascension brings forth the desire to speak one's truth. It is as one speaks their truth that the secrecy ends. For some, standing in their truth may be about telling their relative or parents about an incident that they had hidden for their entire life. For yet others standing in their truth may be about sharing their truth and their spiritual path with their friends, work mates or boss. For yet others, standing in their truth may be about stepping forth as a teacher of ascension. For yet others, standing in their truth may be about revealing secrets of their place of work or those in governance over the masses. It is from the authentic self that the desire to speak one's truth flows.

For so long, one's ancestry has not been able to voice their truth. For so long, and out of so much fear, one has learned to hide the truth and lie about what one believes. For so long, the fear of persecution or crucifixion has held humanity in check. The karma for crucifixion, which caused the experience of the one known as Christ in recent history, and this is only a repeat of countless other masters whom were likewise crucified in times past, has been released at last. The healing of the pattern of being crucified for standing in one's truth has been healed by those whom are ascending whom have released such karma on behalf of all of mankind so that a new era of non-crucifixion may emerge.

As the fear of speaking the truth is lifted, ascending humans shall begin to speak their truth en mass. And it is out of such a phenomenon that the secrets of your governments shall come to light in full, and the reconstitution of your world power figures can begin. All of this shall come forth as more humans move into an authentic manner of relating to themselves and all others through the process of ascension.

5. PRIVACY

Privacy and secrecy are related, but not quite the same. However, both are founded upon shame. It is out of shame that humans feel the need for privacy of any kind, whether it be in the act of taking a shower or using the toilet, to covering the body with clothing, to building a home in the midst of 20 acres of seclusion! All such expressions of privacy come from out of shame and the belief that there is something to be ashamed of.

Beloved, we see you when you are naked. We see you as you sit upon the john. We see you as you make love, or shower, or swim, or lie to your boss, or lie to your children, or choose to escape for any reason and be alone. Now, being alone or retreating from the world is not wrong. Indeed, even humans in the unity paradigm require such things to gain better focus upon their life lessons. And therefore we do not wish to confuse the need for privacy with time and space to reflect, process and integrate. Indeed, ascension is filled with reflection, processing and integration of a new foundation of unity, and therefore the time required for retreat by ascending humans shall be far greater perhaps than at another time of non-ascension.

However, we are speaking about privacy that is shame based. Your Sirian ancestors often lived in a tropical environment half-naked! They required not clothing, or privacy, as you know it as there was not shame. Indeed, some cultures such as the Polynesians or Aborigines were in such a state until discovery and "education" by the white man. Education into shame, that is.

As one ascends, the need for privacy for false reasons is left behind. In so doing, shame and modesty based upon shame recedes, and one learns to embrace themselves and all others in honor. The ascending communities of the future may not have curtains beloved, nor fences, nor windows and doors if they are not required for the purposes of retaining warmth inside of the house! There shall be no need for such things as all humans remaining upon Earth shall have ascended out of the thought-form of privacy based upon shame. In so doing, a very different culture, perhaps one more reminiscent of the Polynesians prior to the arrival of the white man, shall emerge.

Where did the concept of privacy come from? Why the Annanuki. The Annanuki kept the slaves separate, and they themselves had beautiful villa after villa of homes and temples for their own use. Those of Annanuki inheritance in present time are often wealthy enough to replicate such a manifestation in their current life dance, and in so doing, keep themselves separate or private from others. As the karma for such a dance is released, there shall be a return to unity and honor, and community founded upon equality, sharing and joy. This too we see ahead for the next era of human civilization.

6. EXCLUSIVITY

Much like the privacy of the Annanuki, the Annanuki were also considered privileged and the slaves unprivileged. Indeed, the Annanuki held all the wealth and resources for themselves, and did not consider the slaves worthy of such things. The Annanuki created a two-class system, and indeed the class system of your current civilization is founded upon such thought-form to this day.

Privilege or exclusivity is based upon competition, in which one perceives themselves as better than and others as less than. In the unity paradigm, competition is left behind and one perceives all others as equal, as God Goddess in human form. It is only out of the thought-form of exclusivity that some humans related to the Annanuki can hoard to such excess that others starve upon the streets, or have no home to live within. Such humans hold on to their wealth to retain their sense of exclusivity.

The thought-form of exclusivity is held throughout the human expression; however, those with red inheritance shall remember the unity once known in their ancient ancestry. The unity was such a joyful state of being that allowing the concept of requiring exclusivity or a two-class system to die is not hard for those whom remember unity. The reason for this is that there is no authentic joy in competition or a two-class system.

Why is there not joy when others are less than or greater than oneself beloved? Joy cannot exist simultaneously with competition. Inherent in competition is non-joy, for joy and laughter and humor only occurs in a state of acceptance of self and others, and this requires equality. It is a great truth that humans can go into joy and equality in one moment, and then competition and judgment of self or others in the next. Why is this so? This is so due to the personality, ego and negative ego. As such aspects of self are integrated and transcended in ascension, gradually the persona is altered into a state of ongoing fluidity of the moment. The fluidity of moment allows one and all others to be where they are, and in so doing, unconditional acceptance is born. It is in a state of unconditional acceptance that joy and humor become the foundation for one's life experience.

As the thought-form of exclusivity is transcended en mass by ascending humans, the class system that you currently know shall cease. It shall be through grass root movements demanding equality for all, food for all, clothing and shelter for all that such a shift shall occur. And this we see ahead for our human brothers and sisters upon Earth.

7. DOMINION

The thought-form of dominion creates a hierarchical system in which there is a ruling class, and there are those to be are ruled or governed. Indeed, the history of your species was one of a certain group known as the Annanuki that held all dominion, perceived themselves as God Goddess in human form, and created a slave race to dominate to prove it. Those related to the Annanuki will often perceive themselves as God Goddess and all others as subordinate, and from such thinking shall rise to power in their life dance holding dominion over others.

Dominion and domination are one and the same. When one has dominion over another, one can dominate. Domination can often include killing, torturing, abusing, murdering, slaughtering, undermining, or destroying the one whom is dominated. Indeed, did not the Annanuki slaughter the slaves if they were disobedient? Did they not send them to mine gold experiencing a torturous and short life span? Did they not use the slaves for self-gratification and sex? This is all a part of the genetic memories of the human species upon Earth.

Upon a group level, domination causes one nation to destroy another nation through war. Upon a planetary level, domination has also occurred over Earth whom has been used as a source of resources without regards to her purpose by humans recurrently since the Annanuki reign. In a parallel manner, those of Annanuki inheritance treat others out of domination, sometimes to the extreme of abuse, torture, or death through annihilation. It is also those of Annanuki inheritance that continue to pillage and pollute Earth to this day in your current civilization.

Earth is a conscious being, not something to be dominated over. All humans likewise are conscious beings, and are not to be dominated over. It is in the embracing of the unity paradigm in ascension that humans shall remember to live in equality and honor with one another and all other life forms again. From honor, one dominates only their own life expression, only one's own truth and evolution as a member of the human species. As only ascending humans remain, as we see occurring in the coming quarter century, the dominion of those of Annanuki inheritance shall cease in the dance of your civilization. As this comes to be so, dominion and domination shall cease in the human expression altogether.

For the ascending human embracing unity, one may cease to wish to own property, particularly land. As one learns that the land belongs to Earth as a conscious being, one will cease to desire to control or have dominion over the land through ownership. We foresee that as all humans transcend ownership through ascension, future leaders and governance in human form shall outlaw ownership of the land altogether. It is also out of such ascending thought-form that abusing, polluting or harming Earth in any manner shall likewise be outlawed.

8. USURY

Usury and dominion are related, but not exactly the same. Usury is the result of dominion, for when one holds dominion over another, the other becomes like property and then is dispensable and can be used. Indeed, in the Annanuki dominion over the slaves, the slaves were property, and were bred to be used. It is from such karma that the current thought-form of usury remains in the human dance upon Earth.

Usury is not unlike prostitution. Prostitution is a funny thing. Men and women desire sex and often cannot find a loving partner to fulfill upon their wishes. Those willing to "sell" their sexual services do so, fulfilling upon the desire and dream of sex. The current governance then outlaws such services deeming them unethical! And yet such humans provide a service and give something to someone! They give of themselves in a manner that provides something in return, for which they are paid in kind. This is balanced giving and receiving, although perhaps not founded upon love. Love would only desire that which is given to be given in love, and often prostitution occurs in lust, or a state of numbness due to the lack of love or desire. And this is a sad thing, but not wrong.

How many others in your current human dance prostitute themselves in like manner, but are not deemed illegal for it? Many humans prostitute themselves by working long hours at a job that they hate for the money to support the family and pay the mortgage. Many humans prostitute themselves by subordinating to the boss and not speaking their truth. Many humans prostitute themselves by worshiping the latest actor or actress or millionaire or spiritual guru thereby searching for their truth outside of themselves. Prostitution is prostitution, whether it is legal or illegal in your current framework of law.

All prostitution is based upon usury. Is it not the slaves that were used for sex that has created your sexual prostitutes in present time? Is it not the slaves that were worked to death in the mines that has created your work prostitutes in present time? One prostitutes themselves any time one fails to stand in their truth beloved, and in so doing, one sets themselves up to be used.

Usury sees humans as property. Is it not because the prostitute is property that she can be used by either the client or pimp? Is it not because the employee is the property of the employer that the employer can use the employee? Is it not because the wife, child or husband is the property of the wife, child or husband that they can use one another? Is it not because the devotee is the property of the guru that the guru may use the devotee?

Usury is the foundation of your civilization. Many may not perceive this to be true as so thick are the veils of fantasy. It is the fantasy that causes one to believe that usury is love. Usury is not love, for there is not freedom in the usury. Love in a usury-based paradigm is founded upon ownership, and ownership is not love. Love allows. The current paradigm does not express love as allowance, but rather that love is filled with conditions upon which each must fulfill upon or be rejected, be dispensed of, or worse yet, be annihilated, crucified or killed.

As humans transcend usury, they shall be angry. They shall be angry at how they have prostituted themselves to another. They shall be angry at the manner that they have been used, and at those whom have used them. It may well be that as humanity transcends usury that there is uprising after uprising and demonstration after demonstration protesting all forms of usury or prostitution, regardless of nature. And this too we see as a part of the human future.
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9. DOGMA

Dogma is based upon the concept of right and wrong. In your current human civilization, all law is based upon right and wrong. However, the laws sometimes are bent in the favor of the ruling class or those of great wealth. Therefore, the laws are not absolute. However, there are those whom would like to believe that the laws are absolute, and often such humans are your most fervent and dogmatic religious leaders. Such leaders rarely obey their own belief in absolute laws, and bend them in their own life dance, but preach about absolute law nonetheless. Occasionally, such an individual is caught with their pants down, or caught doing that which they preach to others is wrong, and then is thrown from their pedestal.

The concept of right or wrong is based upon a limited understanding of truth. Truth is so complex that there is no right or wrong, only experience, only understanding, only evolution or ascension, from the perspective of soul. However in the pairing down of human genetics, the understanding of the complex dance of truth was lost in human awareness, leaving in its wake the concepts of right and wrong.

Many currently in human form have no remembrance of their original lineages from the red seeded race. In the red lineages reside an innate understanding of unity and the complexity of truth. For those that do not choose to ascend and do not pull forth their original ancient ancestries, they shall continue in the dance of dogma in this incarnation. However, such individuals shall become ill the further that Earth ascends, and shall eventually become extinct within the human species altogether. For each that is going to ascend with Earth shall require rising above these limited 18 thought-forms that are self-perpetuating in nature.

It is the beliefs in right and wrong that have caused the wars between your nations over time. No nation is right or wrong. No religion is any more right than another. Most religions are founded upon dogma and therefore offer no real opportunity for spiritual evolution whatsoever. Therefore religion and spiritual practices as they have occurred over the past 30,000 years of human civilization have been dead-end streets to the original purpose of spirituality.

The original purpose of spirituality is to evolve through understanding the lessons of soul in any incarnation in the physical. In order to understand soul, one must have a clear connection to the nonphysical realms and hear, see and experience their dreamtime reality. The ability to experience dreamtime was genetically removed from the slave race, causing them to only experience the physical plane. It is out of a non-understanding of the nonphysical realms that non-evolution occurs.

The Annanuki themselves suffered from this problem also. They sought immortality in the misunderstanding of the purpose that soul takes form. They transferred their own misunderstandings to their slave race, whom were manufactured from their own genetics. In many respects, the slave race were a reflection to the Annanuki of how lost that they as humans had become, as lost as the slaves. For one cannot enslave another without becoming enslaved oneself to the prison that one has created.

It is dogma that enslaves. It is dogma that allows one to perceive one self as so "right" that one has the right to kill another or a group of others. In the end of their reign, the Annanuki perceived themselves as so "right" that they could destroy Earth in the battle. This is a telltale sign that they had fallen prey to their own thought-form of dogma, and all thought-forms inherent in the slaves.

For how could one manufacture a thought-form for a slave race and then not partake in the very thought-form oneself as master? One cannot. And so the Annanuki created their own fall in their own dance and belief that they were God/Goddess in form, and the purpose of God Goddess was to "create life". Out of such a thought, they created life in the form of the slaves. The purpose of the human dance is not to create life, but to experience life and allow soul to learn its lessons. And this also is the true purpose of spirituality, for soul to learn, grow, evolve and ascend. There is no other purpose to existence from the perspective of the Great Central Sun.

10. ARROGANCE

The thought-form of arrogance is one that is related to the belief that one knows it all. In believing that one knows it all, evolution ceases. For evolution can only begin when one perceives that they know very little, and then strive to know more, and then evolution can begin. Evolution begins with the quest, the quest to understand, and the quest to rise above what one has always known. Arrogance is an opposing force to evolution, for in its very nature, it believes that there is nothing to learn, and nothing to rise above.

In the human records of your current metaphysical and spiritual movement that have been assessed by the Great Central Sun, there is little evolution occurring in any such movements. However, such humans often preach that there is evolution and that they are moving towards another dimension, and that they are evolving, growing, and ascending. And yet are they really? Underlying many metaphysical teachings is great arrogance or the belief that all is known. How can one ascend into the unknown if all is known? It is not possible.

We see that many of such movements have simply created their own self-perpetuating thought-form that keeps those affiliated in non-evolution and non-awakening under the guise of bringing forth an awakening. A true awakening requires that one move out of arrogance and understand how little the human form upon Earth truly remembers. You remember so little that the thought that you know it all is absurd from the point of view of the souls in the Great Central Sun.

One can create dogma out of any preaching. Therefore we advise those whom are awakening not to tune into the dogma of others, but to tune inward and open to their inner-landscape and begin to ascend. Ascension is an inner job that requires a state of non-arrogance and understanding that you know little, and are now going to give up what you know and embrace a new foundation of thought-form. Those that are leadership whom are ascending will continually change, continually bring forth new information, and continually share a new level of understanding of the human dance. Those that are not shall share the same information over and over again, as if it is all that there is, and as if it is the only truth. Ascending humans can learn to then distinguish between ascending and non-ascending information.

11. FANTASY

The thought-form of fantasy is one manner that the Annanuki prevented the slaves from awakening to an understanding of the nonphysical realms that surrounded them. They allotted all nonphysical occurrences to the realms of fantasy and told the slaves that such things were not real. This was to prevent the slaves from awakening to enough of a degree that they would rebel against the Annanuki. Over time there were millions of slaves, and if they wished to overrun the Annanuki, they easily could have. In restraining the slaves from awakening, they would never rebel, and indeed they did not.

Fantasy realities abound that the Annanuki put in place to restrain their slave race from evolution. Such realities are utilized by humanity today in the creation of theater, movies, song, dance, books of all kinds, television shows, and all forms of outward bound entertainment. However, such entertainment along with the planes of reality that they are associated with are also designed to prevent evolution, and built into such planes is the very means to strip an audience of information that was not deemed appropriate for the slaves. (See "Transcending the Seven Forms of Seduction" for more information.)

Ascending humans rise above the fantasy planes a little at a time. As one ascends beyond such fantasy planes, the current entertainment shall not be so entertaining any longer. The current forms of entertainment are dramas generally founded upon the 18 self-perpetuating thought-forms. If one is rising above such thought-form, one will not find such dramas interesting any longer, and watching such entertainment can and will have the effect of reprogramming oneself back into the very self-perpetuating themes that one has transcended. It is why our channel is so adamant about avoiding all media entertainment, as it causes ascending humans to slide backwards rather than transcend. For the mapmakers in particular, entertainment may not be able to be afforded less you fail at your mission of mapmaking a path out of the self-perpetuating thought-form for others to follow.

For others, the evolution of mankind shall bring about a new form of media in time that shall begin to reflect the changing thought-form of the human species. There may be some forms of entertainment already that are coming forth of this nature, and this too is a reflection of the success of mapmaking the new thought-form by the mapmakers. There are many paths, and some shall forge ahead where no man has gone in 30,000 years, and others shall follow. There is neither right nor wrong in any choice of path, and those whom are the mapmakers have been genetically prepared for such a role, or they simply would fail.

Fantasies however are one means that one's intentions for their manifestations in one's life dance come to be understood by your sun and then reflected back to manifest in the physical. Therefore, if one watches a movie or entertainment of some sort, and it has a violent theme, then engaging in the violent fantasy sends an intent to the sun that you would like to manifest parallel violent experience in your life dance. If one is going to engage with the current forms of entertainment, one must therefore be highly selective, as otherwise you may manifest something that is very unpleasant in your life experience.

One may not realize that the fantasies of your ancestors have caused your particular life expression. For when fantasies cannot be fulfilled upon in one lifetime they shall roll over into the next. This is why some human experiences seem so victim-like, however, all were caused by one's ancestries thoughts and fantasies over time. Therefore one may wish also to edit the fantasies that they engage with allowing them to be joyful and constructive towards one's evolution, lest they manifest a disaster instead.

As one rises above the thought-form of fantasy, one ceases to fantasize. One learns to live in the moment, in the in breath and out breath of life. Thinking about the past fades away as the memories are erased in the act of ascension. Thinking of the future also fades away as one becomes more fully grounded in present time. This is the gift of the Language of Light, it stands outside of time, allowing one to be present in the moment instead of in a fantasy.

The fantasies never really allow one to be present in the moment. In the fantasy, one is either in the past or in some future dream. It requires a state of "presentness" to connect with another in an intimate encounter. It also requires a state of presentness to feel one's soul, for soul can only enter into the dance with the consciousness of the form in present time.

When one goes into fantasy, one ceases to anchor soul. However, the slave race was never designed to anchor soul in the first place, they were designed to be soulless like an animal from the perspective of the Annanuki. However, animals are not soulless, nothing is soulless, and in retracing your steps outside of the paradigm of self-perpetuating thought-form, one goes from a soulless to ensouled state. In fantasy, one is soulless. In present time and in the act of grounding soul into form, one becomes ensouled.

Soul is required to ascend, as it is soul that infuses the form with chi and runs the chakras and subtle bodies of any ascending field. No soul present, no ascension. It therefore behooves ascending humans to break away from their habits of fantasy and entertainment based upon fantasy and anchor soul in its place, and then learn to listen to the communications that one's soul has. It is one's communication from soul that shall guide one out of the self-perpetuating dilemma of the human dance and into the new paradigm of unity, joy and unconditional love.

12. BLIND TRUST

The Annanuki did not wish the slave race questioning them in any manner. Therefore the slaves were bred to blindly trust them under all circumstances and at all times. It is out of the thought-form of blind trust that awakening the human species becomes so difficult. For humans live their lives based upon blind trust, blind trust that all shall be as it has always been forever. Humans blindly trust so greatly that they are unable to perceive the dark intent of another or of those in governance over the human dance.

A part of the issue of blind trust is also the result of not wishing to see the unconscious or see under the veils of illusion that pervade your reality. Indeed, the Annanuki also did not wish the slaves to perceive under the veils of reality into the inner workings of their manipulations and dominion over Earth. Therefore frightening and terrorizing entities were anchored to scare the slaves if they began at all to look into the unconscious realms, or look within. It is why so often for those whom are ascending opening to the unconscious and opening to the inner landscape is so frightening. However, once the entities anchored by the Annanuki in one's ancestry are moved aside, one discoveries that the inner landscape and nonphysical is nothing to be frightened of at all.

Indeed, the entities that try to keep one from opening to the unconscious are great. Our channel Mila has encountered them time and time again, particularly in travel, for such regions perhaps have not been cleansed as readily as the region in which she lives. Such beings are terrified themselves, and if one responds in anger to their presence, they simply will run off in great fear!

In physical plane relations, one has learned to blindly trust their parents, teachers, employers, friends and spouses or significant others. Sometimes one also blindly trusts another and they are surprised when such individuals betray one in one manner or another. It is blind trust that prevents one often from seeing through to the underlying motives of another.

In ascension, one can also fall into the trap of blindly trusting one's non-physical guidance. If one continues to blindly trust guidance, one will not lift beyond the self-perpetuating thought-form of blind trust and shall fail to ascend. It is for this reason that initiates often create experiences in which their nonphysical guidance betrays them, so that they may lift beyond the thought-form of blind trust altogether.

One can also blindly trust that they see the whole truth internal to self in their own inner landscape. Indeed, one only sees what they can see in the moment, and the veils of illusion are thick within your creation. Therefore astute initiates will require not blindly trusting everything that they see internal to self, but be willing to lift the veils and look again! So often one does not wish to see something "bad" about oneself. There is not good or bad nor right nor wrong, and each initiate's ancestry has participated in the entire human dance. Therefore one's ancestry has done it all, from murder, to falsifying documents, to lying, to cheating, to bringing about the downfall of man. It is only in honestly assessing the karma within one's inheritance that it can be forgiven and then the related self-perpetuating thought-form transcended.

13. FAITH

Blind trust and faith are related, but not the same. Faith is founded upon blind trust and that in the blind trust of another, one has faith that they shall work in one's best interest or knows better than oneself. The slave race only knew Gods that were really mortals whom were not God at all, but a distorted human form. In order for the slaves to continue to perceive the mortals claiming themselves God to be God, one would have to have faith that this is so. It is for this reason that this particular thought-form was added to the slave race in their genetic manufacturing.

In your current civilization, one has faith that what one sees is the truth of the circumstance. One has faith in the current regime in governance. One has faith in their boss or if they are the boss, faith in their employees. One has faith in their company, region of living, or country of origin. Sometimes ones faith in someone or something fails, and someone does not act in accord with one's expectations. Perhaps the boss fires you, or the governor is found to be deceiving the populace, or there is an earthquake and one's region of living has a catastrophe. It is in such moments that one's expectations are broken. It is the thought-form of faith that leads to the dance of expectation.

Expectation is a set of rules devised by one for another. Indeed the Annanuki devised a set of rules for the slaves, and if the slaves broke the rules, they were punished, sometimes to the extreme of death or torture, or being sent to the mines from which they never returned. The fear of not meeting someone else's expectations is therefore great in the current human dance. Expectation is so great in the current human dance that many humans never step outside of the expected norm for their particular life expression. They have become prisoners to the expectations of others and their society of birth origin.

In ascension, one ceases to function out of what others expect one to do or behave as another wishes. One becomes their authentic self. It is out of a state of authenticity that the whole paradigm of expectation ceases. In ascension, one shall step outside of the expectations of not only one's birth family, but also society at large. This is not to say that one shall commit a crime that is deemed punishable in your current law, but that one shall transcend the need for such laws in embracing a harmless state.

14. HOPE

If not for the thought-form of hope, the slaves would have had a dismal existence. Therefore the Annanuki genetically allowed the slaves to have perpetual hope that life would be wonderful tomorrow, tomorrow was another day and everything would be fine, that all would sort itself out in the long haul. Indeed this caused slaves working in the dismal circumstance of the mines to awaken each day in hope of change only to go to work again under the same dismal circumstances again. And how many other humans in present time go to work under equal dismal circumstances, awakening to a new morning of hope, hope that it might one day all change and be the way one fantasizes it should be! But it never is.

In order to change one's life, one must take action. However, taking action alone is not enough, for one's thought-form creates one's reality. Therefore one can leave the marriage to the abusive partner only to create another abusive partner in the future. Or one can leave the abusive boss only to create the same abuse in their next employer. In order for life to really change one must alter the thought-form at cause of any manifestation, and in so doing another reality may emerge. However, the slaves were not designed to alter thought-form, and therefore any real change in one's circumstance is not possible from within the loop of self-perpetuation. Therefore hope as a thought-form was substituted in the place of real potential change, growth or evolution.

In the current dance, humans associate change with a swing in polarity. This is not change, but just the experience of the other side of the same thought-form. One may perceive that being the master is better than being the slave, and an alteration from the role of slave to master as an improvement or change. But it is not change at all, and the cycle insures another lifetime as slave following the one as master in counterbalance. Another example may be that one is abused in childhood by their parents, and this was difficult and painful. Then later in life, one becomes the abusive parent oneself. It may feel better to be in the role of the abusive parent than the abused child, and one may perceive this as change. However, it is only the reverse side of the polarity of the self-perpetuating thought-form of dominion.

Real change occurs as one rises above a particular thought-form, not swinging from one polarity to another within the given thought-form. Real change is only possible through the act of ascending out of the current paradigm and embracing a new foundation of thought-form. As real change occurs, one ceases to experience the difficulties of the past. Why is this so? Thought-forms are holographic and draw experiences into one's life based upon the belief. As the belief shifts, the experience of life changes. One can transcend the thought-form dominion, then leave the abusive partner and go on to create a loving and supportive partner in their place.

Much of the current metaphysical movement is based upon hope. Hope that a new tomorrow shall emerge and god shall do it for you, or the aliens shall descend and restructure civilization, or that the angels shall descend and take everyone to heaven where it all will be perfect as one fantasizes about it! My dears, no one can work one's way out of your thought-form other than you, and no god nor angels or aliens are capable of assisting in such a fashion. The belief that one shall have another do it for them is directly related to the Annanuki, whom bred the slaves to believe the Annanuki to be God and they as God would "take care of everything".

15. PERFECTION

The thought-form of perfection was necessary for the Annanuki to be perceived as God. As God, the Annanuki were perfect and the slaves were imperfect. This is where the concept of "original sin" came to be, those of slave inheritance that perceive themselves inherently imperfect due to their slave genetics from birth. However, the Gods were just mortals that knew a little more perhaps than the slaves, but not enough to dance in unity and love with Earth or any other species. Therefore they were far from perfect, and perfection is actually not a concept that exists in any other language within the Great Central Sun, just like all of the other self perpetuating thought-forms that we are examining in this piece.

It is often human nature to continue to perceive God as perfect as they open to their inner landscape and begin to ascend. No soul is perfect, nor is the Great Central Sun perfect. The Great Central Sun is comprised of a group of souls that have created the dance of experiences within this creation and are learning, growing and evolving. In the dance of evolution, sometimes one makes a miscalculation that causes a problem that then must be rectified. Such is the nature of evolution. The miscalculation is not deemed wrong, but a part of the dance of evolution. Once a miscalculation is understood and repaired, it does not occur again because one has evolved beyond it in one's own understanding.

In your current dance, one hopes that the guru or teacher is perfect. However, as long as the guru or teacher must be perfect, there is no room for evolution or growth or change. For evolution presupposes that one is not perfect, but rather in need of modification or change. Perfection much like arrogance can cause one to cease to evolve if one fails to transcend this self-perpetuating though-form.

The dance of perfection also causes one to take another off of the pedestal that one has put them upon. In perfection, one is perceived superior and another inferior, and the superior one is placed in a lofty place and worshipped. Sometimes if enough imperfection shines through, such as the dirty laundry of a god fearing preacher, one then takes the individual off of the pedestal and ceases to worship them, deeming them wrong, bad, or evil. Such thought-forms may even allow one the right to crucify the fallen one in one manner or another, including death or torture.

It is perfection that causes one to create a mask or veil to hide one's authentic-self underneath. Often humans have masks for one area of their life dance, and another mask for another area of their life dance. It is why one can behave entirely different at work than at home with the family. When one moves beyond perfection, one dismantles all masks and simply is one's authentic self under all circumstances, regardless of those one is relating to. It is in so doing that new relations can emerge amongst humans whom are ascending.

Ascending leadership shall never concern themselves with appearing perfect. Ascending leaders shall be willing to examine their own darkness and transcend, for there is not other way of ascending otherwise. They shall also be willing to admit their own miscalculations and learn from them, altering their course of action according to the lessons learned. Our channel has demonstrated this in her own organization, whom in the process of altering the evolutionary course from one of failure to one of success, allowed 90% of those affiliated to leave whom could not bridge into the new paradigm. She has learned that she is not perfect, can make miscalculations, and can learn and change courses if need be to continue to ascend, and allow the group to continue to ascend.

16. EXTERNAL GOD

For the Annanuki to retain their dominion over the slave race, they would have to predispose the slaves with the belief that God was outside of themselves, and that the Annanuki were God. This thought-form has created the continued belief of an external God that has permeated all religions in the current human dance, whether they be Eastern or Western in origin.

An external God is one whom one relies upon to do it for oneself or save one from their own darkness and demons created by one's own thought-form. It is why perhaps the human species, en mass, searches for a savior to descend and save them from their own creation. No one can save the human species, the human species must choose to ascend out of the thought-form that has created the current circumstance, and then the human species shall save themselves.

As long as any human searches for God outside of oneself, this one shall fail to ascend. For God is not outside, it is within, and it is within all life upon Earth and within all dimensions within All That Is. As the search for God turns inward, then the doors to the unconscious can fly open allowing ascending humans to access the nonphysical realms that surround one. In so doing, one shall find themselves suddenly surrounded by God in all forms. From the God that dances with the nature kingdoms, to the God whom dances as angels, to the Gods whom dance as dolphins and whales, to the Gods dancing as humans.

Returning to the One God is not what one thinks, that all become one being, preferably human in shape which then has dominion over all creation for all time, and judges others as having sinned or erred. Instead, the One is simply the many souls from many shapes and forms returning to the same dimension of origin to share their journey and experience and plan the next journey or experience that lies ahead.

17. PRIDE

Pride is a thought-form given to the slaves so that they could have a sense of accomplishment or something to be proud of. Indeed the Annanuki set up an elaborate set of rituals held in temples that honored the slaves for certain deemed accomplishments. Your current human civilization is filled with this false form of accomplishment in present time. Your corporations hold ceremonies just like the Annanuki awarding their employees for their years of service or goals accomplished, all of which benefit the corporation and most likely in profit gained. Your entertainment field is filled with ceremonies and awards for yet other false accomplishments, "best picture", "best song", and so on.

Such forms of accomplishment are false from the perspective of the Great Central Sun, as any accomplishment that does not include evolution as a part of the accomplishment is not accomplishment at all. Pride can then be viewed from such a standpoint as a false form of honor, where someone is honored for an artificial accomplishment that has nothing to do with evolution or real mastery.

The slaves were gifted with certain talents that entertained the Annanuki. They were given enough skills to be able to sing, and dance, and think with a limited understanding of creation, and build or create the dwellings necessary to sustain them. They were also bred with enough knowledge to know how to farm and harvest enough food to sustain themselves, and how to bear and raise children. However, unlike the Annanuki, the slaves aged and died. Life was not permanent, only the Gods had seeming permanence, and hence the quest for the slaves to be God-like and immortal in human fantasies.

Humans that were not immortal still could accomplish this or that and be rewarded for it. Sometimes the rewards including spending time with the Gods themselves. Sometimes it included mating with the Gods if one was "chosen" for such purposes. It is in this that the Annanuki began to interbreed, and enjoy the slaves for their own sexual pleasure. Often the parents and children of the Gods received a more privileged existence, and therefore this became a sought after role over many generations. Slaves began to compare themselves based upon the rewards received by the Annanuki, and strive to achieve the rewards to feel fulfilled.

The entire dance of slave life was set up surrounding the concept of inequality and a non-evolutionary form of existence. Self-perpetuating thought-form builds into itself and its experience a false sense of reward that is based upon a particular polarity of expression in a given lifetime. If one has the polarity of success, let us say one becomes the doctor or lawyer in a given lifetime; one feels rewarded thereafter for the successful life. However, polarity as it is then means that the lifetime to follow will be unsuccessful and unrewarding in return, as this is the opposing swing of the thought-form of success. Self-perpetuating thought-form locks humans into the polarity of success and non-success, nothing of which has anything to do with real mastery, evolution or ascension.

As one breaks away from the false concepts of accomplishment in the human dance, one shall also break away from the desire for fame, fortune or greed. For the entire dance of fame and fortune and hoarding as you know it in the human dance is the result of the reward system of the Annanuki of the human slave race so very long ago. Ascending humans shall find their sense of reward from the internal shifts in their own inner-landscape as they transcend and transmute the self-perpetuating thought-forms and rise above them. As they transcend the thought-form, the shifts shall be seen in a more joyous life expression. Such joy shall be authentic, and not artificial.

Authentic joy never comes from accomplishment as in that of fame or fortune or success. Fame fortune or success causes a false joy or high in the moment of success, but then as the high ceases, one moves back into the same depression that existed before the success was manifest. Perhaps this is why so many seeming successful humans find an addiction to preoccupy themselves with such as drugs or sex, as this temporarily lifts the depression. However, the only permanent way out of the depression is to transcend the very thought-forms at cause of the depression. And the fact is that self-perpetuating thought-form is boring and depressing in the human experience.

Many humans judge themselves unworthy for their lack of success. This is false, as no human is worth any more than any other, and any human's worth is related to the simple truth that all humans are an expression of God Goddess in form. As one pulls away from the false sense of accomplishment, one may return to a simple life that is enjoyed not for the success, but for the time to master the internal landscape. The joy of mastery cannot be compared with the joy of success, and those whom are transcending understand what we speak from an internal knowing and experience.

As all humans leave artificial forms of success behind, there shall cease to be such forms of rewards within the human dance. There will be no more ceremonies to honor false accomplishments of this or that talent. Talent shall no longer be compared, and all shall honor all talents expressed amongst those willing to share their gifts. There may be gatherings, however. Such gatherings shall revolve around the cycles of life and evolution of Earth and shall honor all species in the process. This the Great Central Sun sees ahead in the human dance many decades into the future.

As artificial success is left behind, there is room for a new form of monetary flow that is balanced. The imbalance in monetary systems all comes from the artificial rewards of the Annanuki of the slaves long ago, and has been translated in more recent time as accrual of wealth, property and objects. As success ceases to be viewed as resulting in accrual of wealth or property, but rather as an internal process and mastery, humans shall cease to seek out wealth or artificial success as the outcome of their life expression. As this occurs, all forms of seeming success shall alter in the decades ahead to reflect the internal changes of thought-form within the human species. This in and of itself shall allow for the end to world hunger and a redistribution of resources so that all may be fed, nurtured and sheltered.

18. OBEDIENCE

Obedience is a thought-form that caused the slaves to obey the Annanuki under all circumstances. It also created a circumstance in which the slaves would not unite and overthrow the Annanuki, and perhaps it is for this reason that they were bred with this particular thought-form. The thought-form of obedience also leads to subservience, in which one shall subordinate themselves to another, or sacrifice themselves for another. Indeed the slaves sacrificed themselves in the mining of gold that made the Annanuki wealthy. They also sacrificed themselves upon the many battlefields as the Annanuki raged war upon one another.

Many humans in the present day dance sacrifice themselves, so strong is the belief in obedience. Some sacrifice themselves for their children, or their spouse, or their husband or wife. Some sacrifice themselves for their governments by joining the army or fighting the battles raged through their own nation's warfare.

In day-to-day living, humans "obey the law" more or less, or break the law from time to time but deem it not wrong as long as they are not caught. Human obey the law enough to pay their taxes, pay their bills, pay their mortgages, pay to exist. Often it is out of obeying the law and paying the mortgage that humans sacrifice themselves working at jobs that they hate, or supporting family members or friends that they do not really love.

Ascension pulls humans away from false laws. False laws are laws that have been constructed upon the paradigm of thought-form created by the Annanuki. One outcome of such laws was a false form of debt that led to servitude of the slaves towards the Annanuki. This has translated into your present day civilization into servitude towards those in governance and a false debt towards the nation that one resides within. Such debts cause those living in such nations to pay "taxes".

Real debt is based upon karma. Real debt can be settled in a number of ways, which may or may not require monetary exchange. As all karma is completed upon by the ascending human, then the false debts in the form of credit card charges, mortgages, or taxes that have no karmic bond behind them shall cease likewise to paid upon. Ascending humans shall cease to pay in the greater understanding that one cannot ascend unless they rise out of the thought-form of obedience and its counterpart of false debt. In paying upon any false debt, one then returns to the cycle of self-perpetuating thought-form that one is trying to transcend.

Ascending humans shall obey only real laws. Real laws are indeed the laws of harmlessness and honor. Real laws include real karmic debts that must be settled, not false debts paid to another that is not really owed. Real laws include the foundation of unity, from which all species and all life forms upon Earth are honored as fellow Gods in form. Such is the paradigm that humanity shall ascend into in due course as a result of this next phase of awakening about to occur upon your plane of reality.

FINAL NOTES

The above information comes from the assessment of current human thought-form and the current human paradigm by the Great Central Sun. Those of slave inheritance are predominantly white in birth ancestry. It is such humans that hold these 18 self perpetuating thought-forms in the genetic make up of the form, and as they are transcended in the act of biological ascension, a new thought-form that is unity based emerges.

The red race holds the 18 self-perpetuating thought-forms also, but as programming that is more energetic and less genetic. It is why perhaps the red race lives inherently more in a state of unity than those more directly related to the Annanuki or slaves. It is for this reason that as one brings their ancient red tapestries forward that a bridge can be built between the 18 self perpetuating thought-forms of slavery to the 10 basic thought-forms of unity consciousness. For the red man has by and large retained the understanding of unity over time.

It is perhaps why, in the awakening of the human species thus far, there is an emphasis of red teachings that attract many initiates. One is attracted to such teachings for one's job is to ascend into a way of being based upon one's red inheritance. All humans will have red lineages in their ancient tapestry. It is in bringing forth such understanding along with the biology of one's ancient ancestors, and anchoring it in the present day physical form, that one ascends over time.

There are many lessons for all concerned in the examination of human thought-form upon Earth by the Great Central Sun. We too have distortions in our thought-form, although not so great as to create a self-perpetuation that causes evolution to cease. However, we are clearing our distortion, just as Earth is clearing hers, as all must learn, grow and evolve together, regardless of species, and regardless of dimension. Earth may be likened to the bottom of a pendulum of which the Great Central Sun is the stem. Earth experiences and expresses an extreme form of distortion that all of the Great Central Sun also partakes of, but not to the extreme of Earth. Distortion indeed increases the further down the dimensions or pendulum one goes.

It is our hope that in sharing this information, that more humans shall begin their ascension out of such great and grave distortion. It is also our truth to support our fellow brothers and sisters in human form in such a difficult task. The Great Central Sun is anchoring more assistance in the form of angels and energy flow to help break up the density and stuck points of energy movement upon Earth's surface. This in and of itself should assist more of the human species seeded to ascend in awakening to their true purpose.

Until our next communication,

Namaste

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Here is a succinct explanation of the Holographic Universe theory. It seems to me they have found 7 out of 10 of the 'ingredients', i.e. EFFECTS of the Universe but they're coming up with the wrong cause. "It has to be a Hologram because we can't understand what else it could be....."????
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Ha Ha....me peeking out of a rabbit hole, too!

I'm not sure what you are pointing to, Divinity? Are you saying that a man was a scam artist and therefore anyone who listened to him and read the literature is also a scammer? I know I've read and studied many many different philosophies, peridoical, articles and books written by a variety of authors including Joseph Campbell, Steven Hawking, Gary Zucov, Paul Davies, Michael Talbot, the Bible....Theosophy, RA channelings, and Richard Bach, to name just a few. If a person doesn't explore possibilities then he becomes stagnant and stubborn, in my opinion. It's easier to weed the garden after the weeds have grown sufficiently to deIineate them from the veggies and flowers. That's what I consider myself doing when studying the different philosophies, etc., and I am open to changing my mind and philosophies if need be and if warranted in my mind and heart. I'll admit I am not a scientist, however, so much of this goes way over my head. LOL

FWIW, I do NOT think WE ARE NOT REAL or that LIFE IS NOT REAL. You've completely misunderstood my treatise. I, too, feel that the Holographic Universe is an EFFECT, not a CAUSE. BUT, I do think that the EFFECT contains the CAUSE. Why would this stance be cause for dismissal? The Electric Universe, in my opinion, contains the Cause in its Effects, does it not? Is this the point you are making?

I'm slightly confused....well, MORE than slightly confused. That's NOT new, though. Such is life.... :-)

Grasshopper XOXO
hf
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hf Ahim-sa thanks for your comments. Caruso, thank you hf


Hi Grasshopper!

Never decry your abilities to research and reason...you are doing fine! The fact that you aren't a scientist is a distinct advantage because of the sheer brainwashing these people receive while in training. WE are independent, we have no axe to grind, no agendas. We are truth-seekers with open minds and, despite the technical jargon, once the right theory is found, it will be elegant in its simplicity. Indeed, the Universe IS, and it's why I pursue it. Why would it be anything else?
In my mind, we were meant to discover 'the secrets' - that's the way God would want it.

You said:
I, too, feel that the Holographic Universe is an EFFECT, not a CAUSE. BUT, I do think that the EFFECT contains the CAUSE.

No what I actually said was 'holograms' are an effect (not the Holographic Universe - see above) man has created by using lasers and mirrors to reproduce or replicate a copy of something from an original. This self-replicating effect is also found everywhere in the Universe and the EU theory explains how/why.

The effect of self-replication seen from the atom to a spiral galaxy (and in all structures imbetween) SOME have tried to apply this to a holographic universe because they replace the word 'self-replicating' with 'holographic'. As you can see, the principle is still speculative:

Wikipedia:
"The holographic principle is a speculative conjecture about quantum gravity theories, proposed by Gerard 't Hooft and improved and promoted by Leonard Susskind and John A. Wheeler, claiming that all of the information contained in a volume of space can be represented by information which lives in the boundary of that region."



You cannot have an effect without a cause and they cannot be separated, as you know. The question is, what IS the cause for all these effects we witness with our five senses? Interestingly, the EU shows that all effects attributed as causes since the time of myth (and deified) have actually been natural phenomena (effects) caused by our living Electric Universe. As soon as you deify an EFFECT, you cease to search for the CAUSE. What if the Electric Universe, as a whole, IS the cause of all these effects?


I am very sorry for misunderstanding your treatise; I am not in a great state of mind at the moment as I keep getting disconnected. My apologies. Thank you for confirming your belief that we and the Universe are REAL. In my opinion, this really helps as a baseline. And I wish more people were open to this, particularly those who believe All is Within and there is nothing ‘out there’.


The Electric Universe, in my opinion, contains the Cause in its Effects, does it not? Is this the point you are making?

Yes – see above.


>>Are you saying that a man was a scam artist and therefore anyone who listened to him and read the literature is also a scammer?>>

Not a scam artist exactly but let’s keep an open mind. I studied metaphysics for ten years and it was only when I discovered the Electric Universe theory that I realised, ALL the books I’ve ever read are now wrong for me.

It’s why I feel so strongly that people of like-mind at least look into it. If you would like to know more, I would say log onto www.thunderbolts.info or google the Aether Physics Model…there are some excellent sites there.

With MUCH LOVE!
Div
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Keep up the great job of spreading the light!!!

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.Thanks, Maya, I am sure you made a great day for many of us.

Not often we hear comments from the sidelines, much appreciated.


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Update by Sheldan Nidle for the Spiritual Hierarchy and the Galactic
Federation
2 Eb, 5 Moan, 3 Manik

Selamat Jarin! We return with more to discuss with you! Right now,
the final roundup of the cabal's hired hands, soldiers, and assassins
is being completed, and our Earth allies' security forces are
subduing the last few truly dark conspirators. All of this is being
carried out with our blessing and our full support. These operations
are among the last prerequisites before deliveries of your prosperity
can be formally begun. In addition, the legal precedents that ensure
the removal of the illegal US regime are being achieved. Each day a
major amount of progress is made to justify our confidence in the
Light's success. This permits us to move up some of our late-summer
flyover schedules to the immediate coming months. We are assured that
some long-awaited procedures are at last truly near. The process of
slow forward movement has now reached a point where some momentous
breakthroughs are becoming possible. Concurrent with these
developments is Heaven's strong desire to further accelerate your
march toward full consciousness.

Heaven wants to get your many new chakra systems on line as
soon as possible. So they have decided to step up the activation and
integration of over 200 minor nodes and start to tie them in to your
emerging 13-chakra-system of full consciousness. This process can
cause some discomfort, so your many body guardians and guardian
angels are busy working on you at a rate that your body can
accommodate. Remember that an amazingly complex awakening and
integration procedure is underway. You may, from time to time,
experience sharp twinges of discomfort in your neck, back, or upper
legs. You may also get strange feelings in your arms and especially
your hands, fingers, and wrists. These are some now-dormant nodal
points being re-activated. As these come on line, the brain needs to
open up new neural pathways to house these changes, and so your brain
may occasionally ache and your eyes may give the illusion of burning.
This is simply the rerouting operation that is heavily affecting both
the visual and cerebral cortex.

The rewiring of your nervous system is acting as a green light
for advancing the manifestation of your many now-dormant chakras.
This heightened level of bodily changes is causing the mutation of
your DNA to quicken. The relationship between your "junk" DNA and
your active cellular DNA is being stimulated and strengthened,
causing more and more of your DNA material to re-integrate with each
other. New capabilities for you to experience are close to moving
from a latent to an active state. This means that beneath your skin a
new body is taking form. This is a compelling reason for you to
awaken to possibilities that most of your population has been told to
reject. Indeed, it is prompting many of you to question these
conventional perceptions and to search for a new paradigm that can
coherently explain what is happening to you. A special morphogenetic
field, maintained by your crystal children, Heaven, and us, is
supporting your search for a new paradigm. The old teachings can no
longer account for what is now happening; you are indeed shifting
into a new reality.

This new reality is about Love, wealth, and wholeness; and
fear, hate, and separation belong to the rapidly crumbling old order.
Your new reality is taking shape as Light and dark battle for this
realm. The Divine has decreed that this reality now belongs to the
Light. To guarantee this decree, Light summoned us and proclaimed
this first contact mission. Our tasks in this undertaking have
steadily increased, until we now stand on the verge of assisting you
to make the most profound transformations in your recorded history!
Never before in your written history have you-the downtrodden-been
able to revolt in such a way as to change the dominant paradigm by
which you live out your lives. Now, forces with the resources to
drive this mighty shift have come to your aid, both on this Earth and
from this galaxy. Together we can complete this great mission and
join with Heaven in forging a most wondrous reality: a reality in
which your transformation into fully conscious Beings of Light can be
achieved. Then comes the realization of your grand divine destiny!

The present situation is moving along now at a sustained rate.
As it does so, it is able to accelerate its inner momentum, and this
is reflected in an ever-increasing external velocity. This growing
pressure forces the dark to regroup again and again, but these
blocking tactics only slightly thwart the momentum of the Light. Now,
the inevitability of the Light's momentum holds sway over the dark,
whose latest stratagems are failing to gain any new advantages. The
slippery slope of defeat is racing up on them, leading to panic and
to ever-more draconian measures. The dark's delaying tactics last for
shorter and shorter periods, and we ask them daily to "lay down arms"
and resign their positions. Their lack of trust in us maintains them
in their delusion that they can still win. In this they are mistaken.
Their defeat is the only outcome.

As all this plays out it is important to realize that the sum
total of the dark's delaying strategy amounts to merely a short
waiting-period for us. It is rather like being in an airport lounge,
waiting to board a plane, which is to take you on the holiday of a
lifetime. You can see the plane and the boarding staff are present.
You expect the wait, and sometimes this waiting period takes longer
than you want, but your pleasurable excitement makes up for your
impatience as you focus on the adventure that lies ahead. And so it
is for all of us in our current waiting situation: You, our Earth
allies, and we know the outcome, and together we can help each other
pass the time and sooth our frustrations. We all know that the moment
when they announce our flight is coming and that our adventures will
then be well worth the wait, and more. So let us focus on our goal
and envision the joyous adventure that is in sight.

Meanwhile, our task is to maintain the high ground that our
Earth allies have gained. As we said, winning is now just a matter of
time. Those who have long enjoyed the wealth and privileges of the
upper echelons of the dark minions do not easily surrender. Further,
the task now facing your collective consciousness is to realize that
a great transformation is underway. The hard part for many is to
accept that you are the chosen victors. The present economic,
political, and social systems are collapsing. Their viability is at
an end. This fact has just not sunk in yet. With each new crack the
truth of this sinks in deeper and the dark has a harder time glossing
over the reality of a systemic collapse that it cannot control. Once
panic overwhelms the dark, victory is yours!

This overwhelming state of panic is quite close. Our Earth
allies are tidying up a number of loose ends and we are reassessing
first contact, which is our true passion. We love who you are and
especially what you are to become. Your vast potential requires that
this be swiftly manifested. Our plan is to use your time with us to
the max. Much needs to be taught to each of you before your final
metamorphosis, and our personnel are eager to begin. Each day we
discover something new about you that makes us even more intent to
start our interaction with you. Heaven assures us that a divine
timetable is in hand and that we are close to this greatly
anticipated moment and our coming mutual celebrations!

Today, we continued our discussions about the developments of
the day. We informed you that the extensive rewiring of your physical
body is about to be greatly speeded up, while at the same time the
dark is being readied to be divinely pushed aside by the Light. All
this means that the moment of first contact draws ever closer! Know
in your Heart of Hearts that the perpetual Supply and infinite
Abundance of Heaven are indeed Yours! Selamat Majon! Selamat
Kasitaram! (Sirian for Rejoice! and Be Blessed in Heavenly Love and
Joy!)
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I'm sure I speak for many of us who are on the sidelines that read this thread on a daily basis, yet haven't chimed in as of this date...

Thanks to everybody for your contributions and for taking the time out to keep this thread alive and going.

Keep up the great job of spreading the light!!!

Namaste

.Thanks, Maya, I am sure you made a great day for many of us.

Not often we hear comments from the sidelines, much appreciated.


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Indeed, Caruso - thank you, and thank you Maya for your beautiful comments. It's great to have you here.

heart

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Here is a succinct explanation of the Holographic Universe theory. It seems to me they have found 7 out of 10 of the 'ingredients', i.e. EFFECTS of the Universe but they're coming up with the wrong cause. "It has to be a Hologram because we can't understand what else it could be....."????
---------------------
Ha Ha....me peeking out of a rabbit hole, too!

I'm not sure what you are pointing to, Divinity? Are you saying that a man was a scam artist and therefore anyone who listened to him and read the literature is also a scammer? I know I've read and studied many many different philosophies, peridoical, articles and books written by a variety of authors including Joseph Campbell, Steven Hawking, Gary Zucov, Paul Davies, Michael Talbot, the Bible....Theosophy, RA channelings, and Richard Bach, to name just a few. If a person doesn't explore possibilities then he becomes stagnant and stubborn, in my opinion. It's easier to weed the garden after the weeds have grown sufficiently to deIineate them from the veggies and flowers. That's what I consider myself doing when studying the different philosophies, etc., and I am open to changing my mind and philosophies if need be and if warranted in my mind and heart. I'll admit I am not a scientist, however, so much of this goes way over my head. LOL

FWIW, I do NOT think WE ARE NOT REAL or that LIFE IS NOT REAL. You've completely misunderstood my treatise. I, too, feel that the Holographic Universe is an EFFECT, not a CAUSE. BUT, I do think that the EFFECT contains the CAUSE. Why would this stance be cause for dismissal? The Electric Universe, in my opinion, contains the Cause in its Effects, does it not? Is this the point you are making?

I'm slightly confused....well, MORE than slightly confused. That's NOT new, though. Such is life.... :-)

Grasshopper XOXO
hf


hf Ahim-sa thanks for your comments. Caruso, thank you hf


Hi Grasshopper!

Never decry your abilities to research and reason...you are doing fine! The fact that you aren't a scientist is a distinct advantage because of the sheer brainwashing these people receive while in training. WE are independent, we have no axe to grind, no agendas. We are truth-seekers with open minds and, despite the technical jargon, once the right theory is found, it will be elegant in its simplicity. Indeed, the Universe IS, and it's why I pursue it. Why would it be anything else?
In my mind, we were meant to discover 'the secrets' - that's the way God would want it.

You said:
I, too, feel that the Holographic Universe is an EFFECT, not a CAUSE. BUT, I do think that the EFFECT contains the CAUSE.

No what I actually said was 'holograms' are an effect (not the Holographic Universe - see above) man has created by using lasers and mirrors to reproduce or replicate a copy of something from an original. This self-replicating effect is also found everywhere in the Universe and the EU theory explains how/why.

The effect of self-replication seen from the atom to a spiral galaxy (and in all structures imbetween) SOME have tried to apply this to a holographic universe because they replace the word 'self-replicating' with 'holographic'. As you can see, the principle is still speculative:

Wikipedia:
"The holographic principle is a speculative conjecture about quantum gravity theories, proposed by Gerard 't Hooft and improved and promoted by Leonard Susskind and John A. Wheeler, claiming that all of the information contained in a volume of space can be represented by information which lives in the boundary of that region."



You cannot have an effect without a cause and they cannot be separated, as you know. The question is, what IS the cause for all these effects we witness with our five senses? Interestingly, the EU shows that all effects attributed as causes since the time of myth (and deified) have actually been natural phenomena (effects) caused by our living Electric Universe. As soon as you deify an EFFECT, you cease to search for the CAUSE. What if the Electric Universe, as a whole, IS the cause of all these effects?


I am very sorry for misunderstanding your treatise; I am not in a great state of mind at the moment as I keep getting disconnected. My apologies. Thank you for confirming your belief that we and the Universe are REAL. In my opinion, this really helps as a baseline. And I wish more people were open to this, particularly those who believe All is Within and there is nothing ‘out there’.


The Electric Universe, in my opinion, contains the Cause in its Effects, does it not? Is this the point you are making?

Yes – see above.


>>Are you saying that a man was a scam artist and therefore anyone who listened to him and read the literature is also a scammer?>>

Not a scam artist exactly but let’s keep an open mind. I studied metaphysics for ten years and it was only when I discovered the Electric Universe theory that I realised, ALL the books I’ve ever read are now wrong for me.

It’s why I feel so strongly that people of like-mind at least look into it. If you would like to know more, I would say log onto www.thunderbolts.info or google the Aether Physics Model…there are some excellent sites there.

With MUCH LOVE!
Div
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You are such a dear heart, Divinity. I feel it to be VERY safe to discuss my views with you and others on THIS THREAD! See....even if we disagree or don't see eye to eye, I feel it just leaves room for improvement and evolvement. I do think sometimes that not speaking face to face and only with clicking keys leaves an opening for miscommunications. But then again, I sometimes do not express myself well because I can't seem to find the right words to express what's most likely inexpressible! ;-)

I will definitely look into the EU and thunderbolts site for more info. Who knows? I may just find much to which I've become attached is not right for me either!! LOL I don't regret embracing philosophies if they resonate with me regardless of mainstream philosophies, and I don't regret loosing (as opposed to losing) them either. I LOVE learning new things and expanding my horizons. That's like a bit of weeding in my garden don't you know.... ;-)

Thanks dear.

Much Love,
Grasshopper
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Dear Allie,

You know me very well ~ and I put my money where my mouth is. I would never hurt you, and I would never include your name like this.

FLOYDIAN SLIP EDITED MY POST ILLEGALLY. FLOYDIAN SLIP GOT INSIDE MY POST AND CHANGED THE WORDS.

caruso is laughing about it ~ so is Ahim-sa ~ and AC 428787 and do you know what is really nasty about all this today (and yesterday)?

Divinity does not give a shit.

In fact, right now Div is mad, ignoring me, and not replying. Business as usual. SHR is aware.


Love YOU, Wasayo
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My God, Wasayo, what a complete fucktard you are.

Floyd ILLEGALLY chaanged your words? My dear dumass, ANYONE can alter the words quoted from a prior post.

What don't you either lighten up or leave this dreaded place that you keep reminding everyone is unsafe.

You never have anything good to say about this thread so why the fuck you hang around?

Gluttony?

Poor picked on Wasayo.
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Its the Cube of the Law Div... The CUBE OF THE LAW
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LOL! Cosmo - is this what you mean?????

"Let them know that the spiral vortex form makes the cube
start with the length, area, volume, the box/cube. Use Zome. Show them embedded and implicit forms with shadows with the Zome. Show them how to think in dimesions with the Zome and shadows as well. Let them know that the spiral vortex form makes the cube."



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(The term zome is used in several related senses. A zome in the original sense is a building using unusual geometries)
"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.

PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info

"It's never too late to have a happy childhood" - Ahim-sa

"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam

"Remember me as I AM." My Brother

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