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Calling LIGHTWORKERS! A Meeting Place !

 
Darza

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I am your servant.
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Handing over your power again.
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I am your servant.


Handing over your power again.
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As a practitioner of shamanism, my power is derived from helping others. Thank you. :)
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.
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The corrupters here are about to face
karma 10 fold with my karma enhancement
ritual. I have done the ritual in such an way,
That will wait for you to strike again then
It will kick in. You got one more chance.
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I am your servant.


Handing over your power again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 612438

Agreed i am not your servant yet i serve you, i serve humanity, i serve.

Not because i am forced to do so but by my experience. It is both a conscious decision and from following feelings. It is how i use my power, my free will. By doing so i serve me, that is the effect. The power increases according to ones self-responsibility. :)
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The corrupters here are about to face
karma 10 fold with my karma enhancement
ritual. I have done the ritual in such an way,
That will wait for you to strike again then
It will kick in. You got one more chance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 601237



Hi AC... Hi Everyone..

I've been experiencing 'instant karma' over the last two weeks..

Its a very good sign for me as I haven't had this for almost 10 years.


Yes! I'm going to make it.

Peace.
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The corrupters here are about to face
karma 10 fold with my karma enhancement
ritual. I have done the ritual in such an way,
That will wait for you to strike again then
It will kick in. You got one more chance.



Hi AC... Hi Everyone..

I've been experiencing 'instant karma' over the last two weeks..

Its a very good sign for me as I haven't had this for almost 10 years.


Yes! I'm going to make it.

Peace.
 Quoting: A 609439

I noticed that too, that the time between actions and its effects is shortening.

My theory is it is happening for all as a result of the changing energy. That we only differ in the perception of it.

Being aware of it makes life so much easier.

Congratulations with your conclusion A. :)
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The corrupters here are about to face
karma 10 fold with my karma enhancement
ritual. I have done the ritual in such an way,
That will wait for you to strike again then
It will kick in. You got one more chance.
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Give me a break 10 fold karma ritual -- you dont think natural law will deal with this - oh thats right - you need to control and feel powerful . Btw you've just nulled your own ritual by blabbing it. hf
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[link to www.youtube.com]

SUPREMES "REFLECTIONS"

through the mirror of my mind...

hf
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The corrupters here are about to face
karma 10 fold with my karma enhancement
ritual. I have done the ritual in such an way,
That will wait for you to strike again then
It will kick in. You got one more chance.



Hi AC... Hi Everyone..

I've been experiencing 'instant karma' over the last two weeks..

Its a very good sign for me as I haven't had this for almost 10 years.


Yes! I'm going to make it.

Peace.

I noticed that too, that the time between actions and its effects is shortening.

My theory is it is happening for all as a result of the changing energy. That we only differ in the perception of it.

Being aware of it makes life so much easier.

Congratulations with your conclusion A. :)
 Quoting: Darza



Turning my back on light to live the life of a normal person was a big decision for me... To go through it all again so I could be certain of the purpose of my being here.

Within the first 6 months of 'choosing' to live a material life without a unity with light... Things went very wrong.

My creator has been very understanding of the things i needed to understand for my self and by my self...

i have concluded that I am nothing without that light and cannot just 'be' in any lower self form of rebellion towards it.

:)
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ROYAL ASSASSIN - Thank you for the post you gave us re THE STAR OF DAVID --- I had asked a few people about what the significance of the 6 was and particularly (Pente 6 ) which Ahim-sa had suggested when I had come up as 66666 post -- and Waysayo had commented - AHIM sa you are so clever with words - I nearly fell off my chair from laughing --It had disturbed me - because I missed the meaning behing the mirth -- I asked a few people what had been comunicated there - so the 6 pointed star answers something for me --- I do some numerologty and have since I was very young - but never used it for dark purposes which I am aware Crowley and other magicians did -- so thank you for giving me the higher spiritual 6 meaning - - The star of david is a symbol I always doodle when I am waiting on the phone for someone to respond. Thanks bro
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ROYAL ASSASSIN - Thank you for the post you gave us re THE STAR OF DAVID --- I had asked a few people about what the significance of the 6 was and particularly (Pente 6 ) which Ahim-sa had suggested when I had come up as 66666 post -- and Waysayo had commented - AHIM sa you are so clever with words - I nearly fell off my chair from laughing --It had disturbed me - because I missed the meaning behing the mirth -- I asked a few people what had been comunicated there - so the 6 pointed star answers something for me --- I do some numerologty and have since I was very young - but never used it for dark purposes which I am aware Crowley and other magicians did -- so thank you for giving me the higher spiritual 6 meaning - - The star of david is a symbol I always doodle when I am waiting on the phone for someone to respond. Thanks bro
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Hi 6p.

I doodle the star a lot too... i also tend to add the other chakras divided by vertical lines joined by the dots of the 12. Sometimes, during long phone conversations, I draw emmanations from each of the points...

Weird and cool.

hf
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When I first saw through my body to the chakra balls shining within me, i knew in that moment that each of those chakras was a dimension of reality.. i was seeing for the first time from the star of david, my open heart.
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REFLECTIONS - Mirrors .... rose..... luv....... rose Thanks slip -- The Supremes were just gorgeous!!!!! Fabulous figures too -- I have had loves in my life and altho they sing about lost love I dont really see it as that -- At the time it felt great --- and not a waste really --- tHERE WAS A GUY WHO I CONSIDER WAS MY SOUL MATE the GORGEOUS PHIL ---This is for the ladies as I reminisce I was doing aromatherapy at the time and he was a real estate agent helping me sell a property - we got to know each other very well and he became a client of mine. You wouldnt beleive this gorgeous man - very handsome -olive skinned - 6'3" Scorp = had done spiritual workshopa so we had lots in common - laughed easily and often - listened to me and laughed at what I said -- He had travelled and was quite urbane. Unfortuantly married -but we just hit it off on every plane. It was great while it lasted and I dont regret anything -- he was the whole package --- I hope we are destined to meet again one day ---- I am feeling quite romantic this valentines --- so please excuse the ramblings -- romance is underrated I always think -- rose
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ROYAL ASSASSIN - Thank you for the post you gave us re THE STAR OF DAVID --- I had asked a few people about what the significance of the 6 was and particularly (Pente 6 ) which Ahim-sa had suggested when I had come up as 66666 post -- and Waysayo had commented - AHIM sa you are so clever with words - I nearly fell off my chair from laughing --It had disturbed me - because I missed the meaning behing the mirth -- I asked a few people what had been comunicated there - so the 6 pointed star answers something for me --- I do some numerologty and have since I was very young - but never used it for dark purposes which I am aware Crowley and other magicians did -- so thank you for giving me the higher spiritual 6 meaning - - The star of david is a symbol I always doodle when I am waiting on the phone for someone to respond. Thanks bro
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Algd 6 pence glad to be of service.

Numerology relates well to vibrations and light.
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angel3

ROYAL ASSASSIN - Thank you for the post you gave us re THE STAR OF DAVID --- I had asked a few people about what the significance of the 6 was and particularly (Pente 6 ) which Ahim-sa had suggested when I had come up as 66666 post -- and Waysayo had commented - AHIM sa you are so clever with words - I nearly fell off my chair from laughing --It had disturbed me - because I missed the meaning behing the mirth -- I asked a few people what had been comunicated there - so the 6 pointed star answers something for me --- I do some numerologty and have since I was very young - but never used it for dark purposes which I am aware Crowley and other magicians did -- so thank you for giving me the higher spiritual 6 meaning - - The star of david is a symbol I always doodle when I am waiting on the phone for someone to respond. Thanks bro
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Algd 6 pence glad to be of service.

Numerology relates well to vibrations and light.
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Might I (politely) ask what someone of such tender sensitivities as you is doing on an internet discussion forum?

hf


...i thought we were here to gather together as lightworkers...perhaps this is the crux of the problem...my misunderstanding of this thread...i truly thought that the disharmony could be resolved...

...light coming on inside...you are correct...it is me who doesn't belong here...



I think I said somethint like this before, if you are unable to skip reading posts that offend you, then blame the posters for your choice to be offended you are not a lightworker.



Let me explain, at least from my perspective. When I came to this thread a year ago it was a different place. The posters were happy, respectful, and the inner wisdom of each flowed onto the pages with ease and honesty.

It has devolved into a hatefest. Not just disagreement and debate, but literal hate.

I don't blame myself for missing what the thread was and being offended at what it has become, I feel as though it simply devolved and its time may have run its course.

Besides, most of us have enough conflict in our lives that we don't need to come to threads to continue to be exposed to ugliness.

I used to come to this thread to read about lifes beauty and, indeed, I found it here. I could be assured that by reading the posts here I would feel light hearted and sometimes even exposed to real love being exhuded by various posters.




Just so lovely to have 'met' each one of you.


hf
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Ghostsister,
From what I have seen in the few months I have been reading this thread is that only a few (less than a handful) of posters participate in what you call the 'hatefest'. A few others react to it and get distracted by it, but since it is always the same posters you can skip reading their stuff and find what you are looking for. It is still here. Consider it a praactice in knowing what is worth your time and what(or who) is not. My opinion, based on the volume of stuff, is that some people don't have much of a real life and this is their only interaction with others. If their dissonant posts are ignored they get nothing from posting and will either change what they post, or go away. It is this way in all forums I have ever participated on. The only exception being the forums or groups where the moderator reads every post before putting it up. So, you get only that person's view of the world.

I posted a web link yesterday of a forum that does not have any 'flamers'. The emotional stuff was worked out on another forum and almost everyone there is a refugee. YOu might find it more to your liking. I go there because some of my friends are there, like some of them are here; people I know in real life.

www.watersignarts.zerofum.com (it will be easy to see which forum we are refugess from, ha!)
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Turning my back on light to live the life of a normal person was a big decision for me... To go through it all again so I could be certain of the purpose of my being here.

Within the first 6 months of 'choosing' to live a material life without a unity with light... Things went very wrong.

My creator has been very understanding of the things i needed to understand for my self and by my self...

i have concluded that I am nothing without that light and cannot just 'be' in any lower self form of rebellion towards it.

:)
 Quoting: A 609439


Why can't you live a 'normal' life in the light? What is a 'normal' life anyway? Are you saying that you spent time being your genuine self, then decided to play 'dumb' and pretend to be what others wanted you to 'be'? You are never without or separate from god (who may or may not be your creator, depending on your beleif system).

Please define what you call 'the light'. I am very confused by your post. Once you know something, how can you un-know it?
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www.watersignarts.zerofum.com (it will be easy to see which forum we are refugess from, ha!)
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The link did not work, i think it is this one:

[link to watersignarts.zeroforum.com]
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eco.

True light never fades.
People that can be harmed by words
are lacking the light.
It's time for us to fight back against these socialist scumbags
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Your current Society is falling apart, and will completely dissolve, because it is based upon a lie of isolation and separation. There are only a few attempting to delay this process, the 13 families within the Illuminati and those who are continuing to serve ignorance. They gave you commandments they do not even adhere and these were made up to control you, through judgments of right or wrong. Remember, in Love there is no wrong, because Love is always supporting in the Highest Ways. True Enlightenment is the Unconditional willingness to learn, and those who are in True Enlightenment, are Embracing this Growth and Change.

The spiritual egos repainted the old paradigm to make it look different, this is a lie and will also crumble for those that attempted to do this, because spiritual ego is still in competition. Those of Us from the Spiritual Realm understand cooperation is Love, We are not in competition with any of you. We are in Cooperation for those accepting Cooperation, just as we are in Cooperation with Creation. Competition with Creation is not a game anyone could ever possibly win. We sadly observed many of you turn from US, like we were the ones lying to you, because you thought you knew it all already. You did not want to face that it was just a fantasy you developed. All we can say to you, is that we have never turned from you, as you have turned from us. You will have to face this, because it was due to your ignorance, which is illusion. You may deal with this Now or Later, either way it will have to be done to move forward, the only way out is through.

How can you tell the difference between one of the dark and one of the Light, which is the same as Divine Intelligence? You can recognize the Light by Laughter, darkness has no clue what Laughter is, or intelligence. Laughter is the Light, the More Laughter, the More Divine Intelligence expressed. When you are in the Light you view everything as Amusing and Full of Endless Laughter=Joy=Kingdom of Heaven=True Reality. Laughter and Divine Comedy are what's Real, if this doesn't tickle your insides, you're still asleep.

Lastly, we would like to give you an example of How in the Oneness Energy [The Kingdom Of Heaven], unconsciousness cannot exist. If a Being Enters this Energy and cannot face their illusions=unconsciousness, mostly through not feeling worthy of unconditional Love and unwillingness to release the illusion, the energy automatically pushes them out. This Energy is For The High Velocity Experience of Full Consciousness, no darkness can exist here.

Event- Continuing of the Planetary Transfiguration Event, and the clearing away of the darkness energy.

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Agreed i am not your servant yet i serve you, i serve humanity, i serve.

Not because i am forced to do so but by my experience. It is both a conscious decision and from following feelings. It is how i use my power, my free will. By doing so i serve me, that is the effect. The power increases according to ones self-responsibility. :)
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Those of us brought up in modern society are constantly bombarded with impressions that stimulate our urge to want things. TV, newspapers, magazines, shops, stores, supermarkets-- almost everywhere we look -- feed our senses with an input of messages intended to trigger a desire to get, to have, to acquire, to possess. Success, achievement, even happiness itself, is measured by the extend of one's ability to consume. The 'successful' in life are projected as the haves, and the unsuccessful as the have-nots. That is the extent of our mind conditioning.

The enlightened mind, on the other hand, is stimulated not by a desire to get, but by the need to give. This attitude of mind is encapsulated in an expression and a custom known as 'the give away'. The 'give away' has two main aspects. The first could be regarded as the giving away of a thing or condition which a person no longer needed or which had served its purpose. It included the banishment of any adverse condition, like an illness for instance. The process of healing is itself a form of 'give away'. The cyclical nature of the cosmos that is inherent in all nature should always be borne in mind when considering the banishment of anything. Energy must go somewhere and the 'space' it had will become occupied by something else. So in giving away a negativity it should not be dispatched to where it might affect or infect others, but 'sent' where it can do no harm and where it can be transmuted or transformed into its polar and positive opposite. In this way sickness is transformed into health, disharmony into harmony, greed can be transformed into generosity, envy into self-esteem, and poverty into plenty. The second aspect of the 'give away' is giving away to another, or to others, a gift of something that would bring them benefit, to honor or please them in some way, and by doing so receive good things in return. The item that was the subject of the 'give away' might well be something that the givers desired for themselves, or something of theirs which they valued or even treasured. In both aspects the 'give away' is the power or medicine with which someone can touch others.


I am your servant. ;)
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.
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SaLuSa 11-February-2009



You are into a new year that will in many ways exceed your expectations. It is after all, one which has been highlighted as bringing about major changes that will assist the Light to manifest. With it comes advancement to higher levels, that will enable the Lightworkers to provide more meaningful results for their efforts. It is the time those that know what to look for, will see the emergence of Dear Ones who are destined to lift Mankind out of the darkness. It will be a cumulative effort and the Light will show which way events are heading. The playing field is not only being leveled, but will favor the righteous and saintly ones who will lead from the helm of Starship Earth.



It is up to those who are perceptive and see the Light at work, to comfort others who are not. Share your confidence and assurance that all will be well. Otherwise the despair and lack of faith in the future, will give the dark an opportunity to prolong their stay of power. If you get hold of the reins, you can direct your chariot of freedom and truth through the darkness and fully into the Light. There is power in numbers, but it does not take many of the Light to make a great difference all around you. Walk in the energy that you feel within that is uplifting you, and let no outer interference shake you from your path. Nothing can touch you or unseat you unless you allow it.



The media will for the time being will mislead you with false reports, trying to maintain the element of fear that still exists. Trust your own judgement and do not be afraid of the reaction of anyone else. You make your own pathway and let no one distract you from it, as many are scared of facing the truth. It takes some degree of will power to stay focused on your personal truth, but you must do so if you are to be true to self. These are the times when all that no longer serves Humanity, will be brought to the surface. The revelations will shock some people to the core, and the ensuing confusion and dismay will be difficult to eradicate. This is where those who have a greater understanding can help ease the pain, and bring people into the Light.



There is much about to happen and many events are just waiting the right moment to come, to surface. From our point of view it is important that they follow on in such a manner, as to provide a sensible progression, and one that benefits you all. It is all leading to what we view as the most important event for us both, the coming together of the Galactic Federation and the people of Earth. Then, and not until then will we be able to openly guide you towards establishing peace on it. It will happen because you have willed it so, and the cleansing of the Earth will go ahead. It will put paid to the ugly reminders of what happens when you lose your sense of direction, and fall from the higher levels of Truth and Light.



We have the advantage of seeing the future quite clearly, which is why we can state with some confidence that you already have the victory you seek. Bide your time and exercise patience, as there is still some time to go before it becomes obvious to you. Know that as ever multitudes of Beings oversee your progress, and are charged by the highest authorities of Heaven to ensure your ultimate success. Can you see that you are in safe hands, and there is no reason to look back as that period is already being consigned to history?



The blasts from the political arena, economy and weather anomalies are the vestige of old energies that are dying away. The new is taking its place amidst all of the turmoil, and if you look carefully you will find it. You are creating it and it will not be denied its chance to carry Mankind forward, to the manifestation of your dreams of peace and happiness to unparalleled levels. Seek nothing less and you will be helping to bring it all together, as you take another step towards Ascension. You have long sought the answer to your sorrows and pain, and now the most wonderful opportunity to uplift your selves stands at your feet.



Communities are beginning to take their own action to overcome the difficult period you are going through. This will grow into a people's movement that show others the way forward. Power is in your hands to a great extent, so take it and be bold where your future is concerned. For too long your wishes have been ignored, for the gratification of those who are at the centre of greed and uncontrolled power. You have experienced the consequences, and can now consign them to the ranks of those who have served out their time in duality. No more shall they build their empires at your expense, and in the face of the Constitution that they have progressively changed for their sole benefit.



There are moves afoot to release secret information about us, and that will clear the way for a greater contact with you. It will be an embarrassing time for your governments, who have denied you the truth about us. It will show their blatant disregard for your rights to know about us, and how we have frequently approached your leaders with proposals that would have helped bring world peace long ago. Now is the time you are very much prepared to reach out to us without fear. Even you realize that if we were set on taking over the Earth, it would have been quite simple many years ago. We have never uttered a threat against you, or partaken in any activity that would have harmed you or Mother Earth. We treasure her and all souls upon her, and indeed those wonderful Beings of the Inner Earth, who are also destined to join us when we appear.



Perhaps you can detect the excitement we feel coming to you in our words. The time is on hand when the waiting will provide its reward, and our closeness will become more apparent to you. We are in touch with your leaders and they are aware of what the future holds in store for you and your world. We expect to see great advances this year, and we shall be doing our bit to ensure they take place.



I am SaLuSa from Sirius, and as always pleased to address you and keep your focus where it can best serve you. The Universe awaits the emergence of the new Man of Earth, ones who have caring and love for all life.



Thank you SaLuSa.

Mike Quinsey.
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SaLuSa 24-September-2008 (October 14th Confirmation)

there will be irrefutable proof that you are not alone in this Universe. Extraterrestrial craft are no strangers to your Earth, and contact with them is quite normal. What will be different is that the event of the 14th October sighting will happen in such a way that it will be undeniable, and open the door to First Contact.
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Is the European Union showing signs of cracking? There are new signs of unprecedented strain as the economic crisis kicks in.

Czech EU presidency: "Selective and protectionist steps and statements made by President Sarkozy".

Intensive, even frantic, talks are going on behind the scenes to keep the lid on the political fall out from the economic meltdown.

The European Commission and Czech EU presidency, they took it over from France on Jan 1 (it hasn't been easy, see here and here), have announced an emergency summit for the end of February.

The emergency? Nicolas Sarkozy.

The French president's threat (made in Munich, where there are bad memories for the Czechs) to call a crisis meeting of the eurozone countries in Paris has set the cat amongst the pigeons.

It is not his job for starters.

But he has made little secret of his desire to run the show and has treated the Czech EU presidency, who are supposed to be in charge, with true old Europe patrician contempt for "parvenu" East European members of the club.

Mix all this Napoleonic hubris and power grabbing with President Sarkozy's astonishing attack on the single market last week and he is beginning to seriously rattle assorted EU officials and diplomats.

To recap, Mr Sarkozy last week pointedly referred to a Peugeot-Citroen plant in the Czech Republic to say that planned French government aid to automakers would be on the condition that all cars would be "Made in France".

This is what he said: "If you build a Renault plant in India to sell Renaults to Indians, that's justified, but if you build a factory, without saying the company's name, in the Czech Republic to sell cars in France, that's not justified".

Like it or not, that is what the EU's single market is all about. Is Mr Sarkozy now against it? Question that and then what is left for the EU?

This all comes as the Elysée announces up to 6 billion euro worth of handouts (£5.25 billion) to Renault and PSA Peugeot-Citroen.

The five year loans will include conditions such as a halt to layoffs and a suspension of factory closures in France.

Prague is furious.

Mirek Topolanek, the usually unflappable Czech PM, has lashed out by warning Mr Sarkozy that the Lisbon Treaty, much beloved in Paris and Berlin, might be a casualty.

"If someone wanted to really jeopardise the ratification of the Lisbon Treaty, he could not have chosen a better way and a better time," he snarled on Monday.

A Czech statement: "As the Prime Minister of the Czech Republic I do not understand the argument that it is unjustifiable to manufacture cars for the French market in the Czech Republic. The attempts to use the financial crisis to introduce such forms of protectionism and protective measures may slow down and threaten the revival of the European economy".

Don't these two know they are in the same Union?

It doesn't seem so.

Mr Topolanek on Monday morning made it clear that the emergency EU summit was because of "the latest selective and protectionist steps and statements made, among others, by President Sarkozy".

"Similar statements will undoubtedly lead to an escalation of such steps and, in effect, to a prolongation of the crisis which affects the economies of the whole EU," he said.

In the face of the worst recession for 60 years, this kind of European disunion does not bode well for the EU's ability to handle it.

It gets worse.

Behind this very public spat, behind the closed doors of Brussels, in the secret ambassadorial conclaves and working groups some really heavy stuff is going down.

Eurozone finance ministers dine in Brussels tonight. Alistair Darling joins them for a full, precooked Ecofin breakfast on Tuesday.

Top of the menu will be the unpalatable question of the "impaired assets" in the EU's banking sector, the ones that have caused all the problems.

Britain has raised the idea of an insurance scheme to underwrite "toxic" debts. The EU wasn't too impressed, see here.

Germany and Italy is thinking about creating "bad banks" as a repository for the dodgy assets.

The Commission wants agreement, especially on the method that will be used to define and value assets in order to prevent market or competition distortions across the EU.

Whether it is "bad banks" or "toxic insurance", this will cost a lot of money, and yes that's public money.

It will significantly raise government borrowing at a time when bond markets are getting very twitchy about the ability of some countries (Spain, Greece, Portugal, Ireland, Britain and others) to pay it back.

This is the phenomenon of widening spread yields, when investors judge it riskier to buy the debt of a Britain or Spain than the debt of a Germany or France.

In line with the risk, and the low performance of some EU economies compared to others, the markets demand a higher premium on government bonds issued to raise the cash.

The more the doubts and debts, the more the markets ask governments to pay to service their borrowing and all the more indebted governments become.

It is a vicious spiral that threatens to tear both the euro and the EU apart.

If spreads grow so great some countries cannot raise cash to buy all that toxic debt, what does the EU do?

If a government, either in the Union or the euro, defaults on debts what happens?

If the EU, or EMU, lets one of its own go to the wall what is its political future?

So alongside toxic debt, finance ministers will also be discussing bond markets and here lies an ambush for Germany, the EU's biggest and best economy.

One official said: "There is no paper on this. For obvious reasons, it is too sensitive, as sensitive as it gets".

Some countries want a European debt agency, issuing euro bonds to underwrite debts. Germany will be the country expected to pay and how will German voters, feeling the pain of their own recession, feel about that?

Boxing a reunified Germany - a 20th anniversary this year - into the EU and the euro has been one of the strategic goals of European geopolitical strategy, including for the German political class.

Can it last another 20 years? Is the EU in danger of cracking up?
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