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Thanks friends of timeless bliss and Love.

You are blessed beyond belief...trust me.



Love All Ways,

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hf Nrg hf

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It was ouch.


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...bigtime... you understate this yet speak Truth at the same time.

We are all so blessed with love these days.

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Hello Xana, Caruso, and Floydian!

What's everyone up too?
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working

killing time

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how about you?
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Hello Xana, Caruso, and Floydian!

What's everyone up too?

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We're getting ready for the jacuzzi...

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today:
12.19.14.14.16 - The Loung Count
21-12-2012 = 13.00.00.00.00

KIN 116 KA LAHUN CIB (cib pronounces "quib")

Known as or Owl Warlike Cib represents the auto-domain, the auto-government. Its functions are the intuition of the life spiritual and the sensation. The energy of Cib provides protection, joy and prosperity. Of methodical temperament, planned and disciplined, this glifo recommends that you it develops and it uses the Power of the Will, preventing the rigidity and the excess of isolation. The temperament of Cib is serious, deep, wise and realistic, and its dignity imposes respect. The power of Cib leads for the development of intelligence and the capacity to harmonize the masses through its mental and cosmic force. Its challenge is to be faithful to the raised standards that keep, to have professional success and to learn to deal with the authority without opening hand of its personal power. Cib especially asks for that you it learns to have confidence, the confidence of that you can catch what its spirit transmits to it. It has confidence in its internal voice that it knows and it feels these intuitions and signals the holy ghosts, indicating maturity and possibility to make success. The energy of Cib asks for that you it learns to have the confidence of that you can catch what the spirit transmits to it. It has confidence in its internal voice that knows and feels these intuitions and signals the holy ghosts. It trusts the Wisdom of the Mind of Light! Intuitiva intelligence and sense of mood; maturity and possibility to make success. You if it will feel confident, capable, competent! The telepatia will be in high! If you to synchronize itself today with the telepática attitude, for certain it will go to acquire knowledge itself of the importance to know to listen. It is probable that the invitation today is more for being in the listening of whom in the speech. If thus you to proceed, it will have the possibility to canalize the correct word in the appropriate hour and place. Confidence, capacity, ability will be to its side! If it does not worry if suddenly you to perceive that she is analyzing, evaluating and judging the people to its redor! This is the form to learn of the Warrior. It has the capacity to see through the illusions of the others and generally he calls the attention them for this, criticizing the way as they make its work. It takes care, therefore, with the way for which you goes to point the actions of the people who surround it, therefore this will be able feriz them. Equally it takes care with the cynicism and the sarcasm!


TWELVE - KA LAHUN (in Mayan): Devotion - Cooperation - Balance - preparation for a new cycle - union of all the knowledge - regeneration - change of a dimensional step of 90º - to destine, to deliver themselves, to apply themselves, to occupy of something - action and effect to cooperate - to operate jointly with other people - Function: to give to services - Action: to universalizar the benefits of the product. It describes the stage where the product is dedicated to the common good and partilhado with the universal community, exceeding borders. It is the phase where the workmanship of the artist is displayed and where it opens hand of its property in benefit of the others. It is the moment where the individual differences already had been surpassed and where each one decided to cooperate with the group and to become its universal work. It is the hour to commemorate and to celebrate the ending of a workmanship and to start to think about the next project. "As I can dedicate my being to everything what it possesss life" Cooperation and Devotion. The cooperation emerges when you expand the perception, she opens its heart, and is made use to create the result Biggest that benefits to all. The cooperation is impossible when you he is rigid or it desires to control the result. This also happens when you cooperate with the Universe. It cooperates with all the situations of the life, being opened and fluid. I become more one expanded. He integrates the experiences of the new life and horizontes with fluidity. Attention: The twelve have the power to regenerate. It uses to advantage this influence to recoup things that already had been considered lost.
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Jupiter's Electric Moon Io
By Michael Goodspeed
Thunderbolts.info
11-13-7

In 1979, the space probe Voyager II imaged a spectacular profile of the Jovian moon Io, revealing what mission scientists believed to be active "volcanoes," with plumes jetting far into space. At the time, it was considered "probably the greatest surprise" of the Voyager flyby. "It appears that activity on Io affects the entire Jovian system," states a JPL fact sheet.

But at least one astrophysicist noted that the newly discovered "volcanoes" did not behave like volcanoes on Earth. Rather, they showed the distinctive features of electrical discharge. In the Journal Science (Nov 1979) Cornell University's Dr. Thomas Gold proposed that the plumes were provoked by an electrical exchange between Io and Jupiter. This was immediately disputed by a team of five scientists, including Gene Shoemaker, who argued that an electric discharge would be extremely hot -- much hotter than lava -- and that Earth-based instruments have not detected such temperatures. Dr. Gold wrote a rejoinder to Shoemaker, et al., which the journal Science chose not to publish.

Years later, plasma scientists Dr. Anthony Peratt and the distinguished Professor AJ Dessler, then at Rice University, followed up on Gold's suggestion. In the journal Astrophysics and Space Science, No. 144 (1988), the authors related the data on Io's "volcanoes" to the experimental work of Hannes Alfven, who had detailed the unique patterns of electrical discharge in laboratory experiments.

Peratt and Dessler recognized that the physics of Io's plumes answered directly to Alfvén's earlier research on the plasma gun, a device for concentrating electrical energy in an explosive jet. In fact, the plumes on Io exhibit all of the specific features of the "penumbra" produced by such a discharge, including distinctive filamentation within the plumes and termination in a thin symmetrical ring. Even the ejection velocity of Io's "volcano" Prometheus can be predicted by the formula for calculating discharge velocities in a plasma gun. Describing the electrical phenomena in an article dedicated to Alfvén on his 80th birthday, Peratt and Dessler say, "The apparent filamentary penumbra on Io may be the first direct verification of the plasma gun mechanism at work in the solar system."

Prior to the Galileo probe's 1996 arrival in the Jovian system, electrical theorist Wallace Thornhill registered these advance claims:

* the vents of the "volcanic" plumes will be much hotter than lava;
* the plumes are the jets of cathode arcs, and they do not explode from a volcanic vent but move around and erode the periphery of dark areas (called "lava lakes" by planetary geologists);
* the "lava lakes" themselves are merely the solid surface of Io etched electrically by cathode arcs and exposed from beneath the "snow" deposited by continuous discharge activity. Therefore, they will not reveal the expected heat of a recent lava flow.

Each of these predictions received stunning confirmation. Io's "volcanic" hot spots were not only hotter than any lava on Earth, but were too hot to be measured by Galileo's instruments. Also as predicted by Thornhill, the discharging was found to be focused on the edges of the so-called "lava lakes," though the rest of these dark fields are comparatively cold. None of the expected volcanic vents could be found. Rather, some of the "volcanic" plumes are actually MOVING across the surface of Io! The plume of the "volcano" Prometheus has moved more than 80 kilometers since the Voyager mission.

Inspiring further astonishment amongst mission scientists, the "volcanic" plumes emit ultraviolet light -- something inconceivable under normal conditions of volcanic venting. But ultraviolet light is of course characteristic of an electric arc.

Temperatures from the imagined "molten lava" were hot enough to saturate Galileo's cameras. Mission scientists then colored in bleached out areas in the photographs, converting the images into what they expected to find. (From a NASA press release: "...surface flows shown in the color image were assembled as an interpretive drawing by Galileo scientists"). No "lava flow" ever witnessed has displayed temperatures so high as to produce the effect seen in the original Galileo image. But this did not persuade the investigators to reconsider any of their previous assumptions about the "volcanoes." (See NASA's X-mas Coloring Book,
[link to www.holoscience.com]

More recently, observations have added direct confirmation to the electrical connection between Jupiter and Io. A recent image of the Tvashtar "volcano" near the north pole of Io reveals a plume extending 290 kilometers above the surface. The language of the NASA report strikingly features the language of the electrical theorists:

"The remarkable filamentary structure in the Tvashtar plume is similar to details glimpsed faintly in 1979 Voyager images of a similar plume produced by Io's volcano Pele. However, no previous image by any spacecraft has shown these MYSTERIOUS STRUCTURES so clearly." (emphasis added). (See Electric Io Revisited,
[link to www.thunderbolts.info]

"Filamentary structure" simply does not belong in "volcanic" plumes, but as noted by Gold, Peratt, and Dessler, it is a distinctive feature of the "penumbra" of an electric discharge.

Space scientists have come to "depend" on Io's "volcanoes" to account for the extraordinary electrical activity witnessed in Jupiter's atmosphere. Many claim that charged particles from Io's "volcanoes" are responsible for the Jovian auroras, which are 1000 times more intense than anything seen on Earth. In this scenario, the profuse electrical activity at Jupiter's poles -- approximately 10 MILLION volts -- is generated mechanically by the planet's SPIN (again, no thought must be given to any external, electrical power source). Ions from the "volcanoes" on Io are thought to "somehow" travel to the planet's poles, then interact with the magnetic spin-generated electricity to create an extraordinary "charge exchange" producing the auroras.

The NASA statement (which quotes investigator Randy Gladstone) reads:

"The polar electric fields grab any charged particles they can find and slam them into the atmosphere. Particles for slamming can come from the sun, but Jupiter has another, more abundant source nearby: the volcanic moon Io, which spews oxygen and sulfur ions (O+ and S+) into Jupiter's spinning magnetic field.

"Somehow, these ions make their way to Jupiter's poles where electric fields send them hurtling toward the planet below. Upon entering the atmosphere, 'their electrons are first stripped away by molecules they run into, but as they slow down they start grabbing electrons back. The 'charge exchange reaction' produces intense X-ray auroras,' he explains."

This rationale is at once obscure and unsupported. The problem arises from their assumption that Jupiter itself has no net charge. But since it is BEHAVING like a charged body, they look to localized, mechanically induced "charge separation" -- as if an "island" in space, through some internal process, can miraculously acquire and dissipate electric charge.

What is actually occurring is an electrical connection between the Sun, Jupiter, and its moons, and recent discoveries have revealed this in no uncertain terms. When scientists discovered the most prominent auroral trail, or "footprint of Io," in the Jovian atmosphere, they assumed it must be an effect of "charge separation" generated by Io's "volcanoes." However, this theory was undermined in 2005, when Hubble images of the Jovian aurora revealed a similar "footprint" of Europa and its swirling tail.

A research team from the University of Liege, Belgium wrote of this discovery: "Europa is not thought to be volcanic, so what could produce the electrical current that zips along and eventually gives rise to Europa's auroral footprint?"

By incorrectly assuming that Io's "volcanoes" generate the electric current between that moon and Jupiter, the authors of the 2005 report miss the point: Europa's electrical footprint in the Jovian aurora is a huge warning that the assumptions astrophysicists have applied to such enigmas can only create contradictions.

As if to underscore the point, NASA investigators found that the electrical exchange does not stop with Europa. It includes the third moon Ganymede as well. NASA's Hubble Telescope website now shows an image of the Jovian aurora, with three electrical footprints named, including that from the interaction with Jupiter's third moon. Thus, the original argument that conjectured "volcanoes" produced the signature of electrical transactions in the Jovian auroras has been fully FALSIFIED. The Io plumes are the RESULT of electrical transactions between Jupiter and Io.

A further exclamation point to the Io surprises comes from an analysis of the charged-particles surrounding the satellite. In 2000, scientists were "surprised" to discover an abundance of sulfur monoxide in Io's "plasma torus." This contradicted their expectations, since it is sulfur dioxide, not monoxide, that should be the "dominant molecule" in the supposedly "volcanically" active world.

According to the < [link to Space.com>Space.com] report, "Sulfur Molecules Around Io Surprise Scientists": "The results privately puzzled Galileo scientists because they defied expectations. Just when they thought they had an understanding of Io's atmosphere all worked out, Galileo picked up a strong signature of a gas that was thought to be only a minor component in Io's environment."

The report then quotes a mission scientist who openly expresses his perturbation: "Whenever you find something that you don't expect. That's always an important thing to underline because that indicates that the model that you were working with has something that is not right in it."

While this kind of candor is appreciated, nothing indicates that scientists have returned to the fundamental question first posed by Gold: Are Io's high energy plumes electrical in nature?

For background into the realm of the Jovian moons, see [link to www.thunderbolts.info]

sun
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Jupiter's Electric Moon Io
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In 1979, the space probe Voyager II imaged a spectacular profile of the Jovian moon Io, revealing what mission scientists believed to be active "volcanoes," with plumes jetting far into space. At the time, it was considered "probably the greatest surprise" of the Voyager flyby. "It appears that activity on Io affects the entire Jovian system," states a JPL fact sheet.

But at least one astrophysicist noted that the newly discovered "volcanoes" did not behave like volcanoes on Earth. Rather, they showed the distinctive features of electrical discharge. In the Journal Science (Nov 1979) Cornell University's Dr. Thomas Gold proposed that the plumes were provoked by an electrical exchange between Io and Jupiter. This was immediately disputed by a team of five scientists, including Gene Shoemaker, who argued that an electric discharge would be extremely hot -- much hotter than lava -- and that Earth-based instruments have not detected such temperatures. Dr. Gold wrote a rejoinder to Shoemaker, et al., which the journal Science chose not to publish.

Years later, plasma scientists Dr. Anthony Peratt and the distinguished Professor AJ Dessler, then at Rice University, followed up on Gold's suggestion. In the journal Astrophysics and Space Science, No. 144 (1988), the authors related the data on Io's "volcanoes" to the experimental work of Hannes Alfven, who had detailed the unique patterns of electrical discharge in laboratory experiments.

Peratt and Dessler recognized that the physics of Io's plumes answered directly to Alfvén's earlier research on the plasma gun, a device for concentrating electrical energy in an explosive jet. In fact, the plumes on Io exhibit all of the specific features of the "penumbra" produced by such a discharge, including distinctive filamentation within the plumes and termination in a thin symmetrical ring. Even the ejection velocity of Io's "volcano" Prometheus can be predicted by the formula for calculating discharge velocities in a plasma gun. Describing the electrical phenomena in an article dedicated to Alfvén on his 80th birthday, Peratt and Dessler say, "The apparent filamentary penumbra on Io may be the first direct verification of the plasma gun mechanism at work in the solar system."

Prior to the Galileo probe's 1996 arrival in the Jovian system, electrical theorist Wallace Thornhill registered these advance claims:

* the vents of the "volcanic" plumes will be much hotter than lava;
* the plumes are the jets of cathode arcs, and they do not explode from a volcanic vent but move around and erode the periphery of dark areas (called "lava lakes" by planetary geologists);
* the "lava lakes" themselves are merely the solid surface of Io etched electrically by cathode arcs and exposed from beneath the "snow" deposited by continuous discharge activity. Therefore, they will not reveal the expected heat of a recent lava flow.

Each of these predictions received stunning confirmation. Io's "volcanic" hot spots were not only hotter than any lava on Earth, but were too hot to be measured by Galileo's instruments. Also as predicted by Thornhill, the discharging was found to be focused on the edges of the so-called "lava lakes," though the rest of these dark fields are comparatively cold. None of the expected volcanic vents could be found. Rather, some of the "volcanic" plumes are actually MOVING across the surface of Io! The plume of the "volcano" Prometheus has moved more than 80 kilometers since the Voyager mission.

Inspiring further astonishment amongst mission scientists, the "volcanic" plumes emit ultraviolet light -- something inconceivable under normal conditions of volcanic venting. But ultraviolet light is of course characteristic of an electric arc.

Temperatures from the imagined "molten lava" were hot enough to saturate Galileo's cameras. Mission scientists then colored in bleached out areas in the photographs, converting the images into what they expected to find. (From a NASA press release: "...surface flows shown in the color image were assembled as an interpretive drawing by Galileo scientists"). No "lava flow" ever witnessed has displayed temperatures so high as to produce the effect seen in the original Galileo image. But this did not persuade the investigators to reconsider any of their previous assumptions about the "volcanoes." (See NASA's X-mas Coloring Book,
[link to www.holoscience.com]

More recently, observations have added direct confirmation to the electrical connection between Jupiter and Io. A recent image of the Tvashtar "volcano" near the north pole of Io reveals a plume extending 290 kilometers above the surface. The language of the NASA report strikingly features the language of the electrical theorists:

"The remarkable filamentary structure in the Tvashtar plume is similar to details glimpsed faintly in 1979 Voyager images of a similar plume produced by Io's volcano Pele. However, no previous image by any spacecraft has shown these MYSTERIOUS STRUCTURES so clearly." (emphasis added). (See Electric Io Revisited,
[link to www.thunderbolts.info]

"Filamentary structure" simply does not belong in "volcanic" plumes, but as noted by Gold, Peratt, and Dessler, it is a distinctive feature of the "penumbra" of an electric discharge.

Space scientists have come to "depend" on Io's "volcanoes" to account for the extraordinary electrical activity witnessed in Jupiter's atmosphere. Many claim that charged particles from Io's "volcanoes" are responsible for the Jovian auroras, which are 1000 times more intense than anything seen on Earth. In this scenario, the profuse electrical activity at Jupiter's poles -- approximately 10 MILLION volts -- is generated mechanically by the planet's SPIN (again, no thought must be given to any external, electrical power source). Ions from the "volcanoes" on Io are thought to "somehow" travel to the planet's poles, then interact with the magnetic spin-generated electricity to create an extraordinary "charge exchange" producing the auroras.

The NASA statement (which quotes investigator Randy Gladstone) reads:

"The polar electric fields grab any charged particles they can find and slam them into the atmosphere. Particles for slamming can come from the sun, but Jupiter has another, more abundant source nearby: the volcanic moon Io, which spews oxygen and sulfur ions (O+ and S+) into Jupiter's spinning magnetic field.

"Somehow, these ions make their way to Jupiter's poles where electric fields send them hurtling toward the planet below. Upon entering the atmosphere, 'their electrons are first stripped away by molecules they run into, but as they slow down they start grabbing electrons back. The 'charge exchange reaction' produces intense X-ray auroras,' he explains."

This rationale is at once obscure and unsupported. The problem arises from their assumption that Jupiter itself has no net charge. But since it is BEHAVING like a charged body, they look to localized, mechanically induced "charge separation" -- as if an "island" in space, through some internal process, can miraculously acquire and dissipate electric charge.

What is actually occurring is an electrical connection between the Sun, Jupiter, and its moons, and recent discoveries have revealed this in no uncertain terms. When scientists discovered the most prominent auroral trail, or "footprint of Io," in the Jovian atmosphere, they assumed it must be an effect of "charge separation" generated by Io's "volcanoes." However, this theory was undermined in 2005, when Hubble images of the Jovian aurora revealed a similar "footprint" of Europa and its swirling tail.

A research team from the University of Liege, Belgium wrote of this discovery: "Europa is not thought to be volcanic, so what could produce the electrical current that zips along and eventually gives rise to Europa's auroral footprint?"

By incorrectly assuming that Io's "volcanoes" generate the electric current between that moon and Jupiter, the authors of the 2005 report miss the point: Europa's electrical footprint in the Jovian aurora is a huge warning that the assumptions astrophysicists have applied to such enigmas can only create contradictions.

As if to underscore the point, NASA investigators found that the electrical exchange does not stop with Europa. It includes the third moon Ganymede as well. NASA's Hubble Telescope website now shows an image of the Jovian aurora, with three electrical footprints named, including that from the interaction with Jupiter's third moon. Thus, the original argument that conjectured "volcanoes" produced the signature of electrical transactions in the Jovian auroras has been fully FALSIFIED. The Io plumes are the RESULT of electrical transactions between Jupiter and Io.

A further exclamation point to the Io surprises comes from an analysis of the charged-particles surrounding the satellite. In 2000, scientists were "surprised" to discover an abundance of sulfur monoxide in Io's "plasma torus." This contradicted their expectations, since it is sulfur dioxide, not monoxide, that should be the "dominant molecule" in the supposedly "volcanically" active world.

According to the < [link to Space.com>Space.com] report, "Sulfur Molecules Around Io Surprise Scientists": "The results privately puzzled Galileo scientists because they defied expectations. Just when they thought they had an understanding of Io's atmosphere all worked out, Galileo picked up a strong signature of a gas that was thought to be only a minor component in Io's environment."

The report then quotes a mission scientist who openly expresses his perturbation: "Whenever you find something that you don't expect. That's always an important thing to underline because that indicates that the model that you were working with has something that is not right in it."

While this kind of candor is appreciated, nothing indicates that scientists have returned to the fundamental question first posed by Gold: Are Io's high energy plumes electrical in nature?

For background into the realm of the Jovian moons, see [link to www.thunderbolts.info]

sun

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And what is concerning is the satelite bombing they will explode in our Solar System and its Planets ...maby... and... the electrical perturbancys...

Lets hope nothing hapens June 2008
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FOOD FOR THOUGHT

WE KNOW A LOT ABOUT "SOLIDS"
WE KNOW A LOT ABOUT "LIQUIDS"
WE KNOW A LOT ABOUT "GASES"

WE ONLY KNOW A LITTLE ABOUT PLASMAS

HOWEVER, PLASMA MAKES UP 99% OF THE UNIVERSE, SO WE KNOW A LOT ABOUT VERY LITTLE.

GL

Not a lot of people know that


LOL! Had to repost this one....going back to April.

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Experience...
Psy experience
mind expanded experience...
Bigger Worlds Experience.
Plasma experience trough old Calendrics...
Diviner s and Oracles...
Astro phisic`s and Astrology and all Astral/DNA sciences are important... and also Ohm Sciences - 0 Point states
Light Workers fight for freedom alway s ... And Peace
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Yes something big is around the corner..

I have a feeling the elite are on their last legs, and are ready to try and pull off their "final illusion". Anyone notice the recent media attention to UFO's and ET's? When it hits CNN, you know something is up..

"Blackbird singing in the dead of night
Take these broken wings and learn to fly
All your life
You were only waiting for this moment to arise"

Our time is coming hf


I feel like I have waited all my lives for this...lol

Somethng is up - I have even the non-believers sending me e-mails about UFO conferences hf


And not only that beautyfull fairy

The Indians of South America are wakening for the Revolution from Bolivar& Fidel e Ché against the imperialism and Capitalism...
The Muslims are organizing... and defending...
The Chinese had the revolution long a go...
The Russian`s two...
The Portuguese also and many more

But there are some that didnt

Will be dificult fairy... to fix all this
Evolution of the history...

In Harmony

WE ARE TRIYNG
In the Electrical Universe to adjust such diference of interests in to Love , true Nature power light, and freedom... in Cosmic events has this Universal Shift...
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Crazy but important for the equilibrium of the world that we may wake all together and in Peace ...

May the light shows upon Us All

Europe has to wake of the dream and come reality and US should follow... hope US doesnt fall into range but into virtuous humble dialog within One People Earth Time...
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To deliver to Prime minister and to the President of the Républica, for reverencia, without lack... As well as the o President of the PSD, the PCP, the BE The Indios is awaken and to awake it, and to make the Bolivariana revolution and of Ché... and Keys and Ortega and Fidel and Neruda, not to mention of as many American tribes, Nations and Civilizations South and of the Caraibas. It has 500 years we invade that zone... E for everything what we stole to them does not tolerate more. They do not tolerate more the Capitalism as we see this System to it. She is necessary to be more clearly? The Muslen are to awake it and to prepare itself. The Russians already had had the Revolution, already for not falr of the Chinezes who try to destroy the Capitalism with dumping and other Commercial wars that show a bigger reality very... In Portugal we tivémos a Revolution for the People... has 32 Years... But that he does not live yourself... Who lives well is the Oligarchy, the Elites, the Rich ones, the powerful ones of the Capitalism who enslave the others. They do not make asneiras more look at for voçes we dêmos to the others... In Latin America 80% of the Populaçao it is poor and in the Europe also... of Espirito... Much good people and Ancestral here same poor person in Portugal... After that we stole in Latin America... What we will make? Mr. Primeiro Minister this subject deserved the attention and meditation of V. Exa and to show if its Espirito to us is truily Socialist or Capitalist. If not, it will be always the impression of that Sócrates is one infiltrated of the right in the Left, such as Sarkozy is one infiltrated of the Israelis in France. The Europe has of if mostar humble, or would have before the errors that made, to come back the Social politicas and protection of its Citizens and Inhabitants... E nothing of this makes. We do not have to abdicate of the Native land and to protect it... But to travel in the World of the Social ideias and to develop more Politicas, protecting the minors... more are necessary. It knows that these subjects Mr. Primeiro Minister join the Indios, the Muslen, the Chinezes, the Russians... and we... that we will not have to go the exactly Israeli tow of the Americans or English or or neoliberal conservatives, fundamentalists in the fear. The Trigger for confrontations between the Ocidente: U.S.A., the GrãBretanha and the Europe... against the Islamic Native land, the Indios of the South America, Central and Caraibas... against the Chinezes and the Russians, etc The trigger is proximo if nothing fôr made to repair actual damages with great stolen wealth. Deviamos to give. We are unjust them... Still for top to try impôr to it a Capitalist System that enslaves them. The North America: U.S.A. is completely, muitissimo and desiquilibradamente become indebted. In Portugal we walk to set us in good Saints and... More conscientious perhaps yes... If it could not steal in such a way... is time of saying to U.S.A. But it is late is known that the crisis of the American market is diffuse says that this Sixth Fair in Wall ßstreet goes to be dificil... They will be rumors? As sincere Man, that we believe that he is Mr. Primeiro Minister must expôr its position... Until as Commander of the Europe... He goes to leave it without words? But n has journalists to ask intelligent things and with significant value? What in it remains them if not to travel in the World, as we quisémos and we fizémos, we will have to continue to make it... in the World of the ideias we will not be able or and we must be suspended in the Space or the time. Nor to acanharmos itself. We must yes ask for forgives the times that will have of Being the Civilizations Older than already they were here and to who we wound of death... before yes to follow the ways rightest...After the last iberoAmerican Summit Light Love Paz and Bençãos... Blessings

... MilkyWay
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Hi NRG , thinking.





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Amature astronomer`s thoughts regarding comet Holmes......


I have been observing the comet with a 6" reflector and have not noticed any dimming in overall brightness although, I believe that the Earth is now moving away from the Comet. I last looked last night (Nov. 13.) What I have seen is that it's diameter is increasing so that it is now larger than a full moon in the eyepiece's field of view, so the brightness may be spread out over a larger area. It has been passing in front of an area of the Milky Way in Perseus that is densely packed with stars, many of which can be seen shining thru the coma. It is visible to the naked eye as a fuzzy star, not as intense as a week ago, but much larger.
What is interesting is the absence of explanations by astronomers, their silence is deafening! I get the impression that this is a very painful anomaly. You would think that people who are capable of "knowing" what happened in each milisecond after the universe was created or capable of calculating how much matter is "missing" from the universe could explain the actions of a simple little comet!
Also, I have not found any mention of light being emitted by the comet (ie- it's plasmasphere in glow mode or if that is even a possibility) according to every source I have read, the comet is a tenuous ball of small particles forming a roughly spherical shape larger than Jupiter and is shining by reflecting sunlight. It must be tenuous indeed, since background stars can be seen even through the inner coma!
It will no doubt start to fizzle out soon. In the 1890's there was a 2nd flare up a few months later, of course there is no guarantee of those events being repeated. It will be interesting.
 Quoting: Nick C.14th.Nov.2007



"You would think that people who are capable of "knowing" what happened in each milisecond after the universe was created or capable of calculating how much matter is "missing" from the universe could explain the actions of a simple little comet! "

The scale of wrong effects everything...........


In a similar manner, King Abdullah's recent groundbreaking visit to Pope Benedict XVI in the Vatican was also aimed at warning the West of the dangers of its policies towards the Middle East and the Islamic world.

King Abdullah is no fundamentalist, but culturally he is deeply aware of the Arab tribal Islamic ethos in terms of which opponents are made aware of each other's ideas.

The monarch expressed his view to the pope that the Judeo-Christian frame of mind over the past 150 years has been a major stumbling block to world peace - especially in the Middle East - and the institution of the Catholic Church is supportive of it. He elaborated that Muslim ruling elites are as a result becoming marginalized from their people and thus the masses could not be controlled. He clearly warned the pope to advise Western leaders that their policies would create an explosive situation in Palestine in the very near future and nobody, not even he (Abdullah), would be able to control it.
 Quoting: Asia on line


[link to www.atimes.com]

"Muslim ruling elites are as a result becoming marginalized from their people"

The scale of the wrong effects everything.

Cool or cool.


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hearts
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Thanks friends of timeless bliss and Love.

You are blessed beyond belief...trust me.


Love All Ways,

Nrg


hf Nrg hf

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 Quoting: xana



All the Lightworkers said it for me because I, too, was speechless. Thank you Xana. NRG, I just love you and I´m so sorry for the physical pain you have endured. All I can say is bloody well done on how you came to terms with this experience in the highest possible manner. I hope you are taking a break from school for a while to fully recover. All our war wounds, eh? When is it all going to end.....

In my wallet I have 5 Euros, enough to pay for my internet plus a bottle of water. How is the One doing? hmmmm?

Love...it´s all that matters.

Divvy
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FOOD FOR THOUGHT

WE KNOW A LOT ABOUT "SOLIDS"
WE KNOW A LOT ABOUT "LIQUIDS"
WE KNOW A LOT ABOUT "GASES"

WE ONLY KNOW A LITTLE ABOUT PLASMAS

HOWEVER, PLASMA MAKES UP 99% OF THE UNIVERSE, SO WE KNOW A LOT ABOUT VERY LITTLE.

GL

Not a lot of people know that

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Experience...
Psy experience
mind expanded experience...
Bigger Worlds Experience.
Plasma experience trough old Calendrics...
Diviner s and Oracles...
Astro phisic`s and Astrology and all Astral/DNA sciences are important... and also Ohm Sciences - 0 Point states
Light Workers fight for freedom alway s ... And Peace
 Quoting: *~Cosmogenesis~*2012


Super! Lightworkers don´t fight for freedom...we just avoid-evade-dodge all that isn´t, LOL!

Love you Cosmo!
Div
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Xana....thanks for the beautiful email but I´m off the net again...will reply as soon as I get back on, promise.

Love !
hf
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Hi guys-gals,

Femto posted this a while back, in April 2007, and I wonder if I could have your comments please. Naomi, I´m sure you will remember this one.

Thanks!


10th April 2007
Purpose
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The purpose of nature/god is to provide an enviroment which in itself creates a natural enviroment/reality sufficient in wonder that nature/god itself is comfortable/willing/wanting to surrender to/into it.

If you are nature/god the only goal is to allow your natural abilities the freedom to create something that eventually you are peacefull to view as eveything viewed you.

Nature/god always eventually surrenders willingly to its creation. It achieves peace and everything it has provided, is provide for it.




earthhands
"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.

"PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
Here comes the Golden Age.

"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam

"Remember me as I AM." My Brother
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Today, November 15th, Mars goes retrograde in Cancer. Here's interesting insight about what this means:

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Mars Retrograde in Cancer


When Mars is retrograde, everyone's thought patterns are more introspective and we tend to think about ways of acting on issues and concerns which relate to the sign involved. With Mars retrograde in Cancer, people with Sun or Moon in Cancer, or Cancer rising, will be especially prone to such introspection. There is little choice but to reconsider personal views and opinions about life, for it presents an opportunity to gain insight into unconscious motivations. Since Cancer is a Cardinal Sign, the other Cardinal Signs, Libra, Capricorn and Aries, will also feel the effects most keenly.

Mars retro in Cancer generates a confused emotional state, placing those most affected at the mercy of the environment. Enthusiasm and inspiration seem muted, as anxieties develop around family issues, urging you to protect all things that make for security, comfort and luxury.

Because Mars in Cancer normally generates a bold, independent and fearless nature, during the retrograde phase when nature is turned upon its head we should restrain the urge to exercise undue or tyrannical authority over everything and everybody within the home. Sexual desire is activated and sexual action intensified with passion is often associated with the urge to violence and control. Political leaders should also avoid becoming unduly concerned with homeland security and avoid imposing needless restrictions. This position makes the temper rather uncertain and there is a tendency for people to get restless, being inclined to change occupations.

Beware domestic troubles at home, frequent if not violent scenes and quarrels, child and spouse abuse, etc. It also indicates accidents by fire in the home due to carelessness or lack of past preparation. The danger from fire is further stimulated by the fact that Mars turns retro as he applies to the conjunction with the brilliant fixed star Sirius, the Dog Star, the brightest star in the night sky. Sirius is traditionally described as exhibiting the qualities of both Mars and Jupiter; among other things it awakens the jovian qualities of ambition, pride, fame, leadership, wealth and emotionality, but is also noted for the martial qualities of fires, drought, and danger through impetuosity. Although Mars does not turn in exact conjunction with Sirius, it happens well within the allowable orb. Sirius is located at a few minutes past 14° of Cancer, whilst Mars turns retro in the middle of the thirteenth degree, preventing the culmination of the aspect till next year. Mars will therefore not reach the partile (exact) conjunction with Sirius until April 9, 2008, after the New Moon in Aries (a Mars-ruled sign) so these characteristics are likely to be extended until Mars leaves Cancer on the 9th of May. Read more about the Fixed Stars.

I might add that indigestion from eating foods that are too spicy is a common problem, as Cancer rules the stomach and Mars rules all hot things, not just fires! While Mars is retrograde, everyone should be sure to drink adequate amounts of water (6-8 glasses daily) and a glass prior to mealtime. This will offset acid indigestion and reduce the tendency to overeat. Potassium iodide drops taken periodically will fight the liability to stomach infection from eating infected meats, chicken, eggs, etc. Mars rules acute and inflammatory infections, too.


[link to www.astrology.com]
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"In my wallet I have 5 Euros, enough to pay for my internet plus a bottle of water. How is the One doing? hmmmm?

Love...it´s all that matters.

Divvy
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Oh, beautiful Divinity,

Your words worry me massively and break my heart. I know you "don't want" and "haven't asked" but I am going to talk about this with xana and Caruso, if that's okay, lol. Magi and I would like to help. We are family here ~ we are Light ~ and that is what families do ~ Git-R-Done.

Part of our doing this is the exquisite group energy of Love and Light we all hold for each other ~ for our protection ~ lamplights to each other on the Way Home.

It looks like the cosmic energy now... *the darkness is always deepest right before dawn*... is playing havoc with so many of us. *Light always wins, in Source's Good Time.* Very very tough.


NRG

Blessed Nrg, it tears my heart out that you were burned ~ and that you have taken this horrific experience as a bridge to spiritual growth and enlightenment ~ that you have stayed centered, sure... and Nrg, you have just massively "passed the test of Life" and you for sure "don't have to take the written".

You are "already there", laddie... and if you reach down, all of us back here are reaching up to you ~ and for you ~ hand-in-hand like that beautiful pic of Lightworker hands that Div always posts.


*This too shall pass*. *Surrender* *BE STILL*


Wasayo
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Thank you Wasayo for your kind words and offers of help. I´m really fine, it´s just that we are still not yet at a stage where one can make a honest, decent, living out of doing something constructive and worthwhile. It will come, soon. hf

Meantime, there are many worse off always....Lightworkers, could we focus on Chile and send some loving rays, please?

Re: POWERFUL EARTHQUAKE IN CHILE - DETAILS SOON
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Here's the BBC's first report

[link to news.bbc.co.uk]


Powerful quake hits north Chile

BBC breaking news graphic

A powerful 7.7-magnitude earthquake has struck northern Chile, according to the US Geological Survey.

The quake, 36.7 miles (60 km) deep, was centred 106km west of the town of Calama and struck at 1240 local time (1540 GMT), the USGS said.

Two tectonic plates clash along the west coast of South America, the Nazca plate and the South American plate.

In August more than 500 people died when an 8.0 magnitude quake struck neighbouring Peru just south of Lima
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Crucial Iraq Vote: Just Say No
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On Wednesday, House Democrats will once again vote on a bill to "end" the occupation of Iraq - without actually cutting off the funds that keep the occupation going.

Speaker Pelosi's latest plan is a "bridge fund" of $50 billion that sets a "goal" of "redeploying" our troops by 12/15/08. Even if the bill miraculously passes the Senate, Bush will veto it or take the money and openly defy the redeployment "goal." So why is Speaker Pelosi once again playing Bush's game?

90 Democrats have signed the "Peace Pledge" opposing any more Iraq funds except to safely "redeploy" our troops by 1/09. But Pelosi's bill gives Bush the money he wants without the strict enforceable deadlines at the heart of the "Peace Pledge."

So we call on all "Peace Pledge" Democrats to honor their pledges by voting NO.

A new study by Democrats themselves puts the economic cost of the Iraq occupation at $1.6 TRILLION, or $21,000 per family. Every single penny has been wasted - not to mention the human cost to Americans and Iraqis and global hatred of the USA.

Why would Democrats want to give Bush one penny more?

All Congress has to do is Just Say No and refuse to provide any new funds, and tell Bush to use existing funds to bring all our troops safely home. Bush has plenty of money - besides all previous Iraq funds, Bush just signed a Pentagon bill with a $40 billion increase.


Tell your Representatives: No More Funds for Iraq
[link to www.democrats.com]

Deliver the same message on the phone: 202-224-3121

And send a message Democrats cannot ignore by joining the Democratic Donor Strike against the DCCC and DSCC.
[link to democrats.com]

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Here comes the Golden Age.

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Hi guys-gals,

Femto posted this a while back, in April 2007, and I wonder if I could have your comments please. Naomi, I´m sure you will remember this one.

Thanks!


10th April 2007
Purpose
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The purpose of nature/god is to provide an enviroment which in itself creates a natural enviroment/reality sufficient in wonder that nature/god itself is comfortable/willing/wanting to surrender to/into it.

If you are nature/god the only goal is to allow your natural abilities the freedom to create something that eventually you are peacefull to view as eveything viewed you.

Nature/god always eventually surrenders willingly to its creation. It achieves peace and everything it has provided, is provide for it.




:earthhands:
 Quoting: Divinity


Nice one Div! As usual my comments would include if you are in a unnatural environment it will collapse shed itself to make way for the new. Cycles of rebirth in preparation for life. Is many Euros a natural environment? There are so many things going on in todays world is a indication that we will conform to what we are, and are to become.

Personally I feel we let emotions get in our way of the re birthing processes. We get angry sometimes, Maybe depressed with the sense we are hopeless, and let's not forget the ever terrible dual emotion of pride! It is time to come full circle and thrust forward in the new environment that is bestowed upon us after all it is what we wanted.

I once read that the wayshowers are the lightworkers of the world, those in experience that have gone before us to prepare a place. I was speaking with a friend yesterday about the future and what we do now in preparation. so many in the world today will often say " I see brighter skies just down the road. We do it in our faith based systems and it is ingrained in us through out life.

What about right this moment? I will no longer praise tomorrow as the time I would be free nor will I curse the past that has led me here today, and there is certainly no need to judge others as my judgments and candle would hold no measure to the flames within their own hearts.

The time leading up to the great gift is here, and changes are occurring rapidly. Where is the rebirth taking us now? <hehe>


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*One of our ´´A Team´´ sent me this...I thought you would all like to delight in the sounds of JUPITER.

Wishing you all Jupiter Energy! And, love and thanks, you know who you are! hf

(Just what I needed).

lw 2

Love Div
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ps *Cannot reply to your email...will reply over the next few days. Thanks! xxx
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Here comes the Golden Age.

"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam

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Phoenix, my dearest Rebel with a Cause,

I sense more than a little Devil´s Advocate in you lately -am I right?

hiding
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"PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
Here comes the Golden Age.

"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam

"Remember me as I AM." My Brother
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Phoenix, my dearest Rebel with a Cause,

I sense more than a little Devil´s Advocate in you lately -am I right?

hiding
 Quoting: Divinity


Of course you're right <chuckles>

Big hugs to you!
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Phoenix, Cooooooooool (and I never say that, hah!)...

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx hf
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"PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
Here comes the Golden Age.

"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam

"Remember me as I AM." My Brother
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Too Cool!

hf
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LIGHTWORKERS...

Please focus on Cyclone heading for Bangladesh....I´m blowing it back in to the Sea.........join me? Thanks...



Cyclone Sidr, which is a hurricane of at least Category 3 strength, could track toward Bangladesh and repeat episodes of destruction that have witnessed hundreds of thousands dying from single strong storms. It already packs winds of 120 mph, having intensified rapidly in the past 12 hours
[link to skywatch-media.com]

"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.

"PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
Here comes the Golden Age.

"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam

"Remember me as I AM." My Brother
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oh, NRG, my heart beat your rhythm.

Right hand, the valves hand, I hope you are playing.

You are such an emissary for me, brother.

Pain is liberating indeed.


Be still...
 Quoting: Caruso


It's good to be back Caruso....although I never really left our sanctuary here. In spirit as always. There was no nerve damage, so I do have full motion in my hand. Still very tender, but I had one of the leading burn doctors in the country at the Univ. Of Chicago Hosp. Go figure, they are paying some heavy karma back to society for hosting the development of the atomic bomb under the Univ. of Chgo. stadium way back, just a few blocks from where I was in the burn ICU.

Even the morphine they gave me didn't get rid of the pain, just allowed me to doze off into la la land where I solved all the worlds problems through sacred geometry and exploring multiple time lines.

I'm already on the mend brother. Took off the remaining bio-brane today and am doing exercises to strengthen and loosen up the tendons and tight skin.

Stay still...

As you are...

In peace,
Nrg
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Hi Nrg! It's nice to see you! I'm glad you are ok. Your experience reminds me of the first time I was thankful for pain. I was working near a electricity transformer when it blew up. It was ouch.

Many blessings my friend :)

 Quoting: Phoenix 2012


Ouch Ouch Phoenix!!

I have heard a few transformers "blow up" in my day, and wouldn't want to be around them for sure when they did.

I was so happy to have everyone rally last night together. My heart is still soaring from the outpouring of love everyone has shown.

Mucho blessings back at you friend.





GLP