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Message Subject Calling LIGHTWORKERS! A Meeting Place !
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Me114 - I have taken just a section from your thread, which hopefully, will stimulate some discussion:

In previous messages here on GLP, I have referred to this mind-construct as the 'bad wolf', the 'dead man', and the 'fake you'. First of all, let us define what a MIND really is. I watched the videos by Ian Lungold yesterday and he defined the MIND as a TOOL of consciousness, used to see similarities and differences, concerning your survival. He said YOU are not your mind, or your thoughts. Your mind is NOT your identity. Based on his added information, I can now say that the real you, is your consciousness, your I AM, your EGO ( which simply means I AM in Latin), your OBSERVER which science has never found the source for (see "what the bleep do we know").

Emphatically here, I state, that, therefore your EGO is NOT your mind. This is crucial understanding, because many people teach that the EGO is the problem, when clearly they are referring to this MIND-construct. Since I am in Christ, as many of you know, I am stating here, that it is your EGO that Jesus came to salvage. In this message I will refer to that 'person' as your SOUL. Your soul is your unique, free-willed identity, that God the Father intended to be SEPARATE from Him, as a truly independent Son or Child of God. The explicit TRUTH is that we are NOT gods, we are intended to be Children of God, which means we are AS God or like Him. There is a huge difference here that is crucial for us to avoid believing that we ARE GOD, which is the LIE of the evil-mind-beings.

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You are addressing 2 separate issues here, although linked:

1. the ego is NOT the soul
2. you are a child of God, not God himself

My personal belief that that the ego is not the soul. It is a necessary tool for life here in this reality. Without ego, you would not survive here. Ego is easily programmed, it's demanding, insatiable and you will never please it. It's the inner child, always grasping for more....and that includes more love/attention. Ego needs to win all the time or it feels a 'failure'.

The mind is different - the mind has access to conceptual thinking/imagination/constructive thinking whereas the ego hasn't.

The higher self, which to me, is the 'I' connected to God, is the soul aspect and it knows everything that has ever been or will be. It's not subject to programmes, time, space or any limitation whatsoever.

When we jump out of the mind and the ego, we are in touch with the higher self/soul. As Icke would say, we are really the space between our thoughts.

Where we mainly clash, 114, is about Evil. I don't see Evil as something outside of God or outside of myself.

Good/bad/evil/joy/love/anger/fear/generosity...it's all I. The ego, the mind, the higher self, is all I.
We cease to be 'I' and lose our identity when we perceive things through the eyes of God....which is the one soul, connected. Our free will kicks in when we make the choice to perform or react with evil intention or good intention. Both intentions are illusory, in the big picture....or ME manifesting the God-part of myself in that particular moment.

You and me are One. I am you and you are Me. But not at an individuated state.

Div hf
 Quoting: Divinity

Hey there Div,

When you say:

The higher self, which to me, is the 'I' connected to God, is the soul aspect and it knows everything that has ever been or will be. It's not subject to programmes, time, space or any limitation whatsoever.
 Quoting: Divinity

It appears to me, that you believe the above statements, by faith. I do not understand why it is not better to talk to God directly? He is perfectly able and willing to discourse directly with His children. There is no need for faith in a 'higher self'. This higher self person, to me, is make believe. Now, some could say Jesus is make believe, but Jesus is REAL to me, because I speak to Him and He speaks to me.

The danger that I see in what you are espousing is that the carnal mind, which LIES all the time, can easily persuade people to believe in all kinds of worldly wisdoms, including a belief in an infinite higher self. Do you realize that a belief in a higher self opens a person to be possessed by demons? A demon, claiming to be your higher self, would then have full access to completely take you over.

I guess my main question to you Divinity, would be, by whom do you check your faith and beliefs?

For me, it has been advantageous to check my faith and beliefs by both the written word of God (which proved itself to me over time) and by hearing the revealed word of God in direct communications with God, who also proves Himself to a person, over time. It is in the PROVING through the events and confirmations in daily living, that God proves His reality to His children. Thats why I said it is so easy.

But if you or anyone else is unwilling to TEST what they currently believe to see if they can learn to hear God directly, than what could ever dislodge you or anyone from believing what might be lies from the carnal mind?

it is so easy to test whether it is true that you have a carnal mind speaking thoughts in you, by asking God to help you police your thoughts. That is why I wrote the YOU HAVE TO PROVE ME114 WRONG thread.

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at least one person, Dexter, who was doing this exercise before I even posted about it, told us that he did, indeed, find a person he calls 'not me' doing some thinking within him. He described how this 'not me' operates and it exactly matches the description of the carnal mind.

In other words, Divinity, if I am right about the carnal mind, and you have been listening to its COUNSEL, then, without doubt, it has been lying to you, by definition, and leading you AWAY from God in your belief system. It is not about me denigrating your belief system, but instead is a valid warning with an easy test, to help you be sure that you have not been subject to a danger, that "I believe" exists.

If we take a step back, we would ponder if, when people get together and talk to one another, if there are only carnal minds speaking lies to one another the whole time? When do the geniune persons ever come to the forefront? Are we speaking to each other's hands?

Certainly a challenge to someone's belief system could result in a life crisis, but it is better to tear down a structure based on lies, than to continue out of pride or the influence of the lying carnal mind.

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