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Message Subject Calling LIGHTWORKERS! A Meeting Place !
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Here is a succinct explanation of the Holographic Universe theory. It seems to me they have found 7 out of 10 of the 'ingredients', i.e. EFFECTS of the Universe but they're coming up with the wrong cause. "It has to be a Hologram because we can't understand what else it could be....."????
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Ha Ha....me peeking out of a rabbit hole, too!

I'm not sure what you are pointing to, Divinity? Are you saying that a man was a scam artist and therefore anyone who listened to him and read the literature is also a scammer? I know I've read and studied many many different philosophies, peridoical, articles and books written by a variety of authors including Joseph Campbell, Steven Hawking, Gary Zucov, Paul Davies, Michael Talbot, the Bible....Theosophy, RA channelings, and Richard Bach, to name just a few. If a person doesn't explore possibilities then he becomes stagnant and stubborn, in my opinion. It's easier to weed the garden after the weeds have grown sufficiently to deIineate them from the veggies and flowers. That's what I consider myself doing when studying the different philosophies, etc., and I am open to changing my mind and philosophies if need be and if warranted in my mind and heart. I'll admit I am not a scientist, however, so much of this goes way over my head. LOL

FWIW, I do NOT think WE ARE NOT REAL or that LIFE IS NOT REAL. You've completely misunderstood my treatise. I, too, feel that the Holographic Universe is an EFFECT, not a CAUSE. BUT, I do think that the EFFECT contains the CAUSE. Why would this stance be cause for dismissal? The Electric Universe, in my opinion, contains the Cause in its Effects, does it not? Is this the point you are making?

I'm slightly confused....well, MORE than slightly confused. That's NOT new, though. Such is life.... :-)

Grasshopper XOXO
hf
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hf Ahim-sa thanks for your comments. Caruso, thank you hf


Hi Grasshopper!

Never decry your abilities to research and reason...you are doing fine! The fact that you aren't a scientist is a distinct advantage because of the sheer brainwashing these people receive while in training. WE are independent, we have no axe to grind, no agendas. We are truth-seekers with open minds and, despite the technical jargon, once the right theory is found, it will be elegant in its simplicity. Indeed, the Universe IS, and it's why I pursue it. Why would it be anything else?
In my mind, we were meant to discover 'the secrets' - that's the way God would want it.

You said:
I, too, feel that the Holographic Universe is an EFFECT, not a CAUSE. BUT, I do think that the EFFECT contains the CAUSE.

No what I actually said was 'holograms' are an effect (not the Holographic Universe - see above) man has created by using lasers and mirrors to reproduce or replicate a copy of something from an original. This self-replicating effect is also found everywhere in the Universe and the EU theory explains how/why.

The effect of self-replication seen from the atom to a spiral galaxy (and in all structures imbetween) SOME have tried to apply this to a holographic universe because they replace the word 'self-replicating' with 'holographic'. As you can see, the principle is still speculative:

Wikipedia:
"The holographic principle is a speculative conjecture about quantum gravity theories, proposed by Gerard 't Hooft and improved and promoted by Leonard Susskind and John A. Wheeler, claiming that all of the information contained in a volume of space can be represented by information which lives in the boundary of that region."



You cannot have an effect without a cause and they cannot be separated, as you know. The question is, what IS the cause for all these effects we witness with our five senses? Interestingly, the EU shows that all effects attributed as causes since the time of myth (and deified) have actually been natural phenomena (effects) caused by our living Electric Universe. As soon as you deify an EFFECT, you cease to search for the CAUSE. What if the Electric Universe, as a whole, IS the cause of all these effects?


I am very sorry for misunderstanding your treatise; I am not in a great state of mind at the moment as I keep getting disconnected. My apologies. Thank you for confirming your belief that we and the Universe are REAL. In my opinion, this really helps as a baseline. And I wish more people were open to this, particularly those who believe All is Within and there is nothing ‘out there’.


The Electric Universe, in my opinion, contains the Cause in its Effects, does it not? Is this the point you are making?

Yes – see above.


>>Are you saying that a man was a scam artist and therefore anyone who listened to him and read the literature is also a scammer?>>

Not a scam artist exactly but let’s keep an open mind. I studied metaphysics for ten years and it was only when I discovered the Electric Universe theory that I realised, ALL the books I’ve ever read are now wrong for me.

It’s why I feel so strongly that people of like-mind at least look into it. If you would like to know more, I would say log onto www.thunderbolts.info or google the Aether Physics Model…there are some excellent sites there.

With MUCH LOVE!
Div
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