I am DB Cooper's son. His story is coming....

age 15 he enlisted 1957 to 61 Air Force
1962 to 1968 in Army
Worked at Air Force Base 1968 to 70 Then heist and overseas for a few years.

I've got a family to raise. All I needed was the final link in the chain to support all the other links. A final link could be provided in a few ways, but of all the things anyone could come up with, it's the *one and only* piece that would be of any interest to the FBI or the public at large, and that is, tangible evidence from the crime itself.

I believe there was plenty of evidence still around in the 90s. However, these days, very little evidence survives. In fact, it's almost certainly limited to the parachute and briefcase and who knows where they're buried. If you had a suspect or theory that allowed you to find these items, I'd say you nailed it 100%.

I had a long shot to put this away. I knew it was a long shot. It didn't pan out. The same day it didn't pan out was the same day I learned I was going to be a father and that was it. There's not that much left to contribute, pareto principle - lot's of effort to know 90 some-odd percent of what there is to know, and an exponential effort to figure out what small slivers of truth are left to be unearthed. It's just not worth it.

The one contribution I wanted to make before quitting entirely was to put together everything "I know" (quotes because I realize no one will care what I know until I actually string it together) was shut down by the one person who would have benefited the most from me doing it.

This case would have been solved by 1995 if not for one thing. Cooper had a really stupid spouse. This allowed him to literally get away with it - and then posthumously lose credit for his crime.

Curtis Eng is the FBI agent who last worked the case and the one who "closed" it last year.

Cooper's spouse was stupid in what way/ways?

As for his spouse, the OP said she is still alive.

Please help me to understand.

Thanks in advance for your help.

You seem like an interesting fellow, BTW.

Born 1942. About 14 years too young.

Sorry, not him. The overwhelming majority of people that interacted with Cooper described him as 40-50 years of age, not barely cracking his 30s.

But it's been entertaining. Thanks.

The two of us are talking about two different "suspects", hopefully this won't conflate or confuse the two.

Who I believe with near 100% certainty to be DB Cooper had 3 wives that I know of. The first was when he did the crime. She likely knew he did it and helped him get away with it, but that's not for sure. Whenever questionted, she'd change the subject without confirming or denying. Next wife is still alive, he married her after having an office affair with her in the year following the crime, I believe she invented a bogus pregnancy to lure him away from wife 1. They HATE each other, I say hate opposed to hated because she's still alive and if you mention his name to her, she'll go batshit insane on you instantly.

His final spouse is the one I was referring to. He married her in the mid 70s. She's still alive and she alone had the power to put this mystery to bed but couldn't because she didn't see it. He literally told her he was Dan Cooper and she refused to listen and thought he was talking gobbledygook. It wasn't until she was on a date a year after he died that her date suggested the DB Cooper crime. This was the first time that she had any clue, and by then, most if not all the evidence laying around was discarded. She couldn't piece anything together without either me or Doug Pasternak before me. The stuff I figured out listening to her drone on and on would blow my mind, both in what I was hearing and that for some reason, she couldn't see things that were right in front of her the entire time.

If you're smart, you'll wonder why I believe with such fervency that I'm right. After all, in my own words, thousands have claimed to know who Cooper was. Why is this one special? In short, one word will describe my conviction: retrodiction.

In something that has past, you can't predict anything to verify your theory. However, you might be able to retrodict, or predict what you can find. A fine example of this is Tom Kaye's news in USA Today the other day talking about the metal shavings on the tie. His retrodiction is that Cooper will have some explanation as to how those got there. You have a suspect, how do they get there? I look, and behold, the guy who I think did it has a legitimate explanation for the shavings, and this is only one of a handful of retrodictions.

Did your dad work for Boeing? Faux Today:

[link to www.foxnews.com]

Thanks for the reply!

It's very interesting and intriguing. That stupid cunt essentially threw a mountain of money away. A book deal, a movie/documentary...talk shows, etc.

You know what? On a regular basis I talk to people who are like Cooper's widow. They cannot/will not see things that are right in front of their faces. Sigh.

How long has Cooper been dead? From what you know, was Cooper a creep, or was he a guy who lost his way and finally got his shit together and turned out to be a good guy?

It's funny how people romanticize a guy like Cooper. Shit, you know, and I know people like running their mouths...that said, I'm surprised no one turned his ass in for the mountain of money that could've made off his ass.

He must've been very reclusive or he was a gifted man who knew how to choose loyal friends.

What do you think?

Shit! I almost forgot...Did the man who you believe to be Cooper look anything like the sketch?

Did Cooper have any kids with any of the bitches he married?

Was Cooper from Tennessee as the OP suggested?

You seem like a well read and professional man. Are/were you a private dick?

Based on what i have read about, i think he was a metallurgist or a spark tester as i know it. This means that the purity of any steel is tested by a grinder type tool and the resulting sparks colour determined the purity and hardness of the steel. A valuable but simple nessesety in working with production.
I believe that the testing of air frames would require this kind of thing and you would not need a degree to be able to do this. Who knows if D B worked at boeing or not but the types of metal on the tie would point a warey finger in that direction. Last thing yes doing that kind of work tou mat were a tie.

Looked exactly like the sketch, in my opinion. He did have a kid, or at least we think so with someone he didn't marry, don't know whatever happened though. Maybe this story of his is bullshit since he never appeared to look for his daughter. He had step kids throughout his marriages. They are still alive and so don't really want to comment on them much. But since the tie is in the news, one of the step kids with the first wife told a story that the entire family thought was funny. After the divorce and they went their separate ways, the family would laugh and laugh because he claimed to have stolen Bobby Kennedy's necktie from a hotel room. The story itself is dubious, but did make me wonder if the tie wasn't left behind purposely. It will always be a mystery.

You wonder the same things I wonder. What was he really like? As best as I can tell, he was quite personable and believe it or not, generous. The first thing Cooper did when he got the ransom money was to offer a stack ($2,000) to Flight attendant Tina Mucklow. I've found this fits his personality. I believe some of the remaining Cooper ransom went to buy jewelry for nurses that were taking care of him in his last days - a little more than twenty years after the crime. At the same time, he loved to steal things. For instance, he stole packets of Jello from the grocery store in his olden days and thought he was getting away with it. The owner called his wife and she came and paid for them. I guess he just couldn't help himself, he was a compulsive kleptomaniac.

I wouldn't classify him as a creep though. He genuinely seemed to care about people, but usually people he knew. Nameless faceless people perhaps not so much since he'd lift their wallets or whatever.

Didn't live in Tennessee that I know of, but did live all around the USA at various points of his life. When he needed to keep his secret, he stayed away from the Northwest. Lived in Georgia, Alabama, and Florida.

He lived in Colorado after marrying his third wife. Was making excellent money. Took a company trip to Seattle for their annual awards and such in last weekend of September or first week of October 1979 (can't figure out which, lack the evidence to pin it down). It was his first time back since the hijack. This part of the story is the number one reason to believe he was Cooper. In fact, I'd say whoever Cooper was HAS to mimic this part of the tale almost exactly or else they leave more questions than they answer. To explain it and tell the tale would take a while, but I'll do it if you want.

By this point, anyone who is familiar with this case will know exactly who I'm referring to. As I said before, it doesn't matter since no one can prove anything concrete. There are weaknesses in all suspects, and I can tell you the weaknesses with "my guy" (call him that though I have no personal attachment to it other than I'm about as for sure as I can get, I'd bet God everything I have including my life).

I will try to say more later if you keep asking. I do have to avoid getting sucked into it. I've lost several nights of sleep when my mind grinds through details over and over, which is another reason I had to basically quit.

Yeh tell us. There are lot of pple who want to know it's the stuff of ledgend.

"To explain it and tell the tale would take a while, but I'll do it if you want."

Well, naturally I'd really like to read more. OTOH, I'd rather not cause you to suffer undesirable side effects such as losing sleep, etc.

Your writing style compels someone to read more...not unlike a novel one cannot put down. So casting my selfishness aside, please do not write any further if it is going to cause you any unnecessary stress or strain. IF however, you feel up to it, please do so.

Please be so kind as to signal your intent one way or another as I'm not particularly keen on becoming a refreshtard...if you catch my drift.

BTW, regardless of the decision you make, I'd like to commend you for being so kind as to sharing with us your talents. It's so refreshing to read something on this board that is profitable. You are head and shoulders above the mean as for what this board offers. You're the kind of poster that makes coming to this board worthwhile...Geez, the amount of scum, trash, assholes and mindless drivel one has to go through to get the pearl is staggering.

One other thing...If you're not already an author...then I'd strongly suggest that you become one.

My dad beat, killed, and ate your dad.

We're still using the cash to wipe our asses of him.

Mystery solved.

Next.

Supposedly op that thinks his father was db cooper says his face was thinner and had a square jaw. I thought Cooper's first sketch really looked like him. He was describe as tan maybe with makeup on looking hispanic sort of with black hair and brown eyes. He had no distinguish accent. So the only people in the world without an accent is either Manitoba, Ontario and Alberta in Canada. FBI thinks he was a fan of the comic book Dan Cooper never written in English but is written in French. Either he knew about the comic book in Canada or in Europe possibly on travel. Now citizen sleuths paid to do research on the crime are now saying he might of worked for Boeing since he knew Washington very well and might of worked in Aerospace Technology manufacturing stuff. FBI are now positive he was an Engineer more likely than a manager. He knew about 727 that no employee knew about the plane. Possibly worked on 727 during the Vietnam War dropping cargo out of the plane. He wasn't an experience skydiver but had knowledge about parachuting.

He sounds like quite a character and was very likeable among people. That was funny he stoled Bobby Kennedy's necktie.

Just checking back on this thread and sorry if someone already said this but after this thread was posted (a few days I think) I saw a news crawler on one America news that said.

"FBI may reopen case of DB Cooper citing possible new evidence"

Not a coincidence. Perhaps op is aware and is or isn't his son. Perhaps GLP has caught attention once again.

That's amazing af. I thought Cooper that hijacked 727 was in his 30s because as soon as your 40 it's not like what you were in your 30s. So I thought if Cooper was at least 40 he wouldn't jumped out of 727 in the cold and in the storm. Plus hiking out of the woods in that type of weather. No way hosay.

I recently had the option of exiting out the rear
of an MD-80 commercial liner with Alaska Airlines.
On the way towards the back I made a comment about
taking the DB Cooper exit but the humor was lost
on the crowd. Went right over their heads.
I guess no one knew who he was.

Last Edited by Rogue bear poop on 01/15/2017 04:46 PM

Funny how there was French cultural influence in French Indochina. Duh..Fresh comics...

This question is NOT for OP but for the investigator who thinks DB Cooper was in his 40's at the time and would go on to have a total of 3 wives. Exactly how do you think your suspect arranged to use the money so that it wouldn't be flagged by any banks? Also was he in the military or how did he learn about jumping out of airplanes? Big difference between being a risk taker and petty thief and doing what DB Cooper was reported to have done.

But Cooper had no accent reported by eye witnesses. So the only people who don't have an accent is Canada.

It's about his tie. According to the article there's no mention of reopening the case.

FBI Science Team Finds Possible New Evidence In D.B. Cooper Case

KING-TV reports a team has been analyzing particles taken from a clip-on tie left by Cooper after he hijacked a passenger jet in 1971 and then vanished out the back wearing a parachute and pack with $200,000.
[link to sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com]

How about it, Brother? Are you up to it?

Great question.

I will try and type up some answers in this thread tomorrow, but will give a little here right now.

Cooper was certainly in his 40s. I don't know the number of witnesses exactly without looking, but let's say it was 10. Two of those sat next to him and tried to get a good description of him. Both of those said mid 40s. Say 9 of 10 said 40s with one person deviating, but I'm not sure if they went lower or higher. Let's er to the side of caution and say one person thought 30s.

The official description of Cooper was mid 40s. It wasn't until Richard McCoy got busted in a copycat crime that people questioned this. Nowadays, there's a guy who is trying to sue the FBI because he believes Cooper was in his 20s and the suspect is still alive. There was a recent TV special on this one, half of the special was great, the other half was pretty funny watching this guy harass an old man.

To answer your immediate question, I don't believe Cooper made any caution at first regarding money getting flagged by the banks. He lived clear across the country and that's likely where he deposited and spent the first of the money. The rest remained hidden, out of reach, left in the woods. We'll never know where.

He later did take extra precaution. I'll discuss that starting tomorrow. As for how he got training, this was never my interest and I'm a bit fuzzy on a theory, but there are a few ideas. The biggest idea is that he had smoke jump training and was trained by Richard Peterson. There is no proof of this, and his training was certainly under a different name, which would be difficult to find unless we knew what name he used.

I will always be as honest as I can be here. His jump training is certainly something I'd be interested in knowing more about, but I've yet to come across something compelling for me to go digging on. This smoke jump stuff could just be bullshit and false memory stuff of the wife. Almost everything she tells me, I ignore. In her world, any and everything is related to DB Cooper and I know it isn't. The biggest challenge is filtering. I have a friend that would disagree with me vehemently, and he'd love GLP except for the modern non-lib politics, because he absolutely loves conspiracies. The smoke jumper angle could be true, or it could be the product of those that love conspiratorial thinking. I haven't flushed it out and don't plan on doing so.

I will tell you this though, he did it. Tomorrow I'll spend some time to try and explain why I believe the way I do.

If you ask questions and make me think, I'll be grateful.

Hello, brother.

You and me spoke at length earlier.

I got to thinking about what you said about Cooper being a kleptomaniac. I get it...but what I don't get is the leap from petty theft to hijacking an airliner, demanding ransom, and obtaining the same. As in cases of rape, etc, if they've done it once...they've done it before. That's why I asked you earlier if you thought Cooper was a creep.

I'm beginning to think Cooper needed serious money, and he needed it quick. In the words of Bruce Springstein, Cooper was on a "Last chance power drive." Or in this case, a "Last chance power dive."

Hell, maybe the son of a bitch did it for the thrill of it. There's a lot of psychotic sick fucks who can't get their rocks off unless they're living life on the edge.

I'm wondering to myself...Did this bastard do it to pay the bills or did he do it for the thrills? You're more than likely going to say both, but in either case, give me your best shot. What do you think?

Thank you very much for showing back up!

Two other things.

You said Cooper's second wife hates him with a passion. She, above anyone else, in my opinion, should've dropped a dime on Cooper and spilled her guts to you if only to spite him. Yet, she didn't. Did Cooper pick dimwitted women on purpose? Perhaps he needed women only to satisfy him sexually and emotionally? If that is the case, then I'd have to say Cooper was a predator of sorts.

Another thing. You said the sketch, in your opinion, was nearly an exact match to his physical likeness. Certainly he must've altered or disguised himself after he committed his crime. There's a lot of people with photographic memories who saw his picture, not to mention all who knew the man. I can go on but I believe you can catch my drift.

You know what? I've heard it been said that it's better to be lucky than good. I'm not trying to preach to the choir with regard to what I'm about say so here goes...Nobody, and I mean Nobody can possibly be that lucky or good. Yet, Cooper was either/or, or both. Geez, What are the odds...One in a Trillion or greater?

After Cooper fully realized that he slipped the noose, I wonder how many times he kicked himself in the ass while thinking to himself...If I knew this was the way it was going to turn out, I would've demanded more.

BUT

More than likely perhaps he got a hard on knowing he pulled off the greatest caper known to mankind and that in itself was worth more than all of the money in the world.

What do you think?

TWO points on this thread:
1. DB Coopers son started this thread, so would like to hear more from him.

2. There is an investigator (book writer?), who is also giving out his theory.

I am hoping if the OP is going to write a book, and is, indeed, DB Coopers son, that he has the piece of evidence needed to prove his writings.

Also, concerning the accent: I am from the South, when I am with peers, we have "no" accent among ourselves. :)

Another question for either DB Cooper's son or the Investigator:

ON LOOKS: AS per witness accounts, they said he looked around 40? Not too much difference in 30 (if one naturally looks young) and 40 in Men. ALSO, could he have DYED his hair? Perhaps he was even blond. If I were to perform a heist, I would change my looks BEFORE the event not after.

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If you were raised from the South then you probably have a hick accent. Yankees called Southerners hicks because to them they have a hick/ country accent similar to British accent. You or your friends probably don't recognize an accent but if you moved up in the North East part of America to the locals you have an accent.