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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69160624 United States 01/13/2017 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes because stupid people who refuse to be vacccinated can lead to epidemics, unlike abortions, which don't lead to epidemics. Stupid question. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48711059 But that mother who aborts her babies goes and tells others they can do the same. Spreads the same as a virus. You're comparing a literal biological disease to word of mouth. Are you actually retarded? "The words that I speak ARE spirit..." You'd best figure out quickly what is coming out of our mouths. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73230095 United States 01/13/2017 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | very interesting point... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73776540 but the arguement that they would make is that your "unvaccinated child" could/would affect my child. whereas my murdering of life doesnt harm you or yours. (which i dont believe in for social reasons) -- but that opens a huge can of worms -- They use the citizens money to pay for these horrible murders of unborn children. Try to keep your panties up if you are not smart enough to use contraceptives. See, it murder no matter what you say, and your body is not alone after you become pregnant, if every woman decided to murder her unborn there would be no one left. It just the way life is and if you were normal woman with feeling of being a woman, you would know this. I am saying normal because it normal for a woman to know their bodies are the part of creation. Roe V Wade never said abortion was for a messed up woman who has sex and gets pregnant, it was for a rape, incest or health of the mother, by the way pregnancy is not a health problem it a stupid problem if you do not study and figure out how to not get that way in the first place. A lot of states already had this law in effect way before Roe v Wade, this was a push by eugenic people pure and simple way to kill future people. Thank no for being part of their legions. Yes, it does effect other people knowing people are killing their own offspring;s and then the other children's lives seem to not matter to much. See we seem to be having a up swing in the abuse and murder of children. All children a precise. Don't think it will not come back on you. There are many women who can not get pregnant now, because of abortions, you could say it a type of sterilizing as many woman a possible not all but as many as possible. What is done during the procedure can cause scaring of the womb etc. Forget abortion. You are exhibit A for our failing** education system. **Of course, the deep conspiracy theorists would say the education system has "succeeded" in your (and so many others') addled brain.... |
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Really!?!? Deplorable!! User ID: 73778695 United States 01/13/2017 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A choice to abort a fetus doesn't impact public health. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72720870 Personally, I think they should allow for the retroactive abortion of the mother, let the baby go down with the ship. Yes it does. psychological damage to mother, father, other family members.. Oh ya and a dead baby.. But you probably don't consider them a member of the public do you? It's the mother who benefits by choosing not to have a child and deal with the emotional and financial burden of having a child. Many women who are raped prefer to abort than deal with a fetus who was unwillingly given to them, for example. I suppose you only see the woman as a vessel, nothing more. Enough of the rape victim ok. that's not the majority of women getting them. And I feel for those women, it sucks but thats not an excuse for murder. There is enough free money is the country to support them. Maybe their life styles have to change but hey thats a consequence of their actions. So rape is the consequence of of a women's actions? You heartless bastard thinking its ok to murder children because it inconveniences someone's life plans.. |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 72810823 United States 01/13/2017 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Abortions only affect you. Spreading small pox is another matter. Logic fail. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71519527 I was just wondering what a 'Smallpox Apocalypse' would look like. With Gen X and those that came after, unvaccinated...and so many packed into cities, and schools... [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Would be ugly for sure. Cross between zombies and The Stand. [link to www.dailymotion.com] **small poxalypse** Yes. Glad you saw it too. Smallpox had been mostly eradicated worldwide by 1977. Due that reason, all us under 40's, weren't vaccinated... You should recognize the dead and those who actually stopped it, that made it so this isn't still happening... Viewer Discretion: [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] [link to img.medscapestatic.com] I didn't mean 'you' in particular. I meant humankind as a species. Asexual reproduction can do in a day what it has taken humanity thousands of years. That is...divide and multiply, much, much quicker than we can. Just how it is. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73776883 United States 01/13/2017 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My take on abortion is this: it should not be used as a form of birth control period! And if a woman has a right to opt out of the pregnancy because she does not want the responsibility of being a parent then a man ought to have the same right and be able to opt out of paying child support for HIS unwanted child. Double standards at their finest. Quoting: Mug 932356 QFT! Truth here. If a man wants to be a father to a child and have access to it, then he can pay. If not, it's on the mother to care for it and pay. The state can just say no. Of course, another guy could pay in exchange for having free access to the mother's pussy. That's fair. |
jkm1864 User ID: 40826964 United States 01/13/2017 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If my unvaxxed kid is a threat to your vaxxed kid... Quoting: snark you might rethink what you believe about vaccines. Plus- herd immunity is a farce and a joke. Never mind the fact that the last two measles outbreaks that the media was hyping as doomsday, were caused by kids getting vaccines. Pussy Grabber Extraordinaire |
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Ms. Superduper User ID: 70651884 United States 01/13/2017 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You all know that the elitists ritually change the gender of their children at birth, or at least pre-puberty to grow up to unrecognizable, secret transgenders. I believe also that this is done (outside of the parents doing this) to incite the victim to change genders at a later time to gain fortune and fame in entertainment, sports, politics, etc. So, along with the vaccinations and circumcision, as one person mentioned, the foregoing 2 paragraphs are an important consideration for choices. Greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world. Whatever feels good to your soul, do that. |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 72810823 United States 01/13/2017 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look at this picture and ask yourself again why vaccines exist: [link to www.timelines.tv] Imagine your beautiful baby looking and feeling like that. /z\ Look at it. You know why he or she doesn't? Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73230095 United States 01/13/2017 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So OP et al - You bring up a great question. In my, well, many years on this planet, I have always thought for myself, often finding the "red team" denigrating my "liberality" while at the very same time, the "blue team" tarring me a capitalist sellout. This has gone on so long, many reading this were not born when I first walked this most artificial, and capricious!, line. Indeed, the first instances of this phenomena predate "blue" and "red"!..... OP, I know you are snarking on the liberales with your post. But I, as someone who has always thought for herself, and actually tried to reconcile that thought with logic would say: In a Constitutional Republic where we each have free will free from religion mandated by others, I PRESENT my sovereignty over my body to have children (or not) and to have vaccines (or not). That simple. OP appears flippant, but he (or she) is right to expose the discrepancy. I have and continue to live reconciled with the idea that even as I have sovereignty over mine, I have no right to impose my beliefs on others' realm of bodily sovereignty, whatever form it takes. You, others, much less the state has no sovereignty over me, or anyone else for that matter. You may wish that others behave in a certain way (and I actually probably agree with your wish more than not), but our entire free will society collapses when we IMPOSE our belief systems on others. If you want to live in a society where you are safe from changes in political mood, you must not push for such changes. I sense I am not being clear, let me posit an example: in 2012 the Senate Democrats made rule changes that allowed them to force through laws that would not happen otherwise. Some nonpartisan analysts warned that Republicans would use the rule changes if they ever got a majority. The Dems scoffed (as if they would never be out of favor), and today the Republican Senate, much to Dems HORROR, have all those rules in place to COMPLETELY change direction. Those of us who long for minimal government IN EITHER DIRECTION look on in horror as we have for the last 15, 50, 65 years - pick your poison. And now those same Dems are beyond horrified.... Well done, as you brought it upon yourselves.... So reader, are you going to respond to this post (and this situation) with cynical crowd-following (in either direction), or are you going to think for yourself, and recognize the preciousness of allowing your fellow citizens to do the same. THIS is the great battle (which our Founders fought and expected us to do again every generation) before us. Please do not be led by the nose BY ANYONE. |
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SaveUSa User ID: 72547332 United States 01/13/2017 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They're rather fatal to the helpless person being aborted. Wouldn't it be interesting if the baby's doctors had the power to "abort" the mom instead? Continue on a selfish track of indulgence without consequence or responsibility, along with a supreme lack of respect for life, and that crazy statement might just become reality in your lifetime. Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth. |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 72810823 United States 01/13/2017 08:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look at this picture and ask yourself again why vaccines exist: Quoting: Seer777 [link to www.timelines.tv] Imagine your beautiful baby looking and feeling like that. /z\ Look at it. You know why he or she doesn't? It's because people love our progeny inherently and biologically. And it hurts like Hell, when they die. Pain is a great motivator. One that is currently, unavoidable. However, Mankind continues to dig in their heels in to slow and stop the potentially avoidable. Vaccines are one of those ways. And it is a 'gland slam' success in the number of live saved. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
SaveUSa User ID: 72547332 United States 01/13/2017 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So OP et al - Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73230095 You bring up a great question. In my, well, many years on this planet, I have always thought for myself, often finding the "red team" denigrating my "liberality" while at the very same time, the "blue team" tarring me a capitalist sellout. This has gone on so long, many reading this were not born when I first walked this most artificial, and capricious!, line. Indeed, the first instances of this phenomena predate "blue" and "red"!..... OP, I know you are snarking on the liberales with your post. But I, as someone who has always thought for herself, and actually tried to reconcile that thought with logic would say: In a Constitutional Republic where we each have free will free from religion mandated by others, I PRESENT my sovereignty over my body to have children (or not) and to have vaccines (or not). That simple. OP appears flippant, but he (or she) is right to expose the discrepancy. I have and continue to live reconciled with the idea that even as I have sovereignty over mine, I have no right to impose my beliefs on others' realm of bodily sovereignty, whatever form it takes. You, others, much less the state has no sovereignty over me, or anyone else for that matter. You may wish that others behave in a certain way (and I actually probably agree with your wish more than not), but our entire free will society collapses when we IMPOSE our belief systems on others. If you want to live in a society where you are safe from changes in political mood, you must not push for such changes. I sense I am not being clear, let me posit an example: in 2012 the Senate Democrats made rule changes that allowed them to force through laws that would not happen otherwise. Some nonpartisan analysts warned that Republicans would use the rule changes if they ever got a majority. The Dems scoffed (as if they would never be out of favor), and today the Republican Senate, much to Dems HORROR, have all those rules in place to COMPLETELY change direction. Those of us who long for minimal government IN EITHER DIRECTION look on in horror as we have for the last 15, 50, 65 years - pick your poison. And now those same Dems are beyond horrified.... Well done, as you brought it upon yourselves.... So reader, are you going to respond to this post (and this situation) with cynical crowd-following (in either direction), or are you going to think for yourself, and recognize the preciousness of allowing your fellow citizens to do the same. THIS is the great battle (which our Founders fought and expected us to do again every generation) before us. Please do not be led by the nose BY ANYONE. Well said and very thought provoking. That said, I do think that the states should have the right to respect life or deny it. Those that choose to deny it will quickly (in time) feed on each other until nothing is left, and those that do will flourish. Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth. |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 72810823 United States 01/13/2017 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to ccat.sas.upenn.edu] Quoting: Seer777 [link to s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com (secure)] Polio [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Iron Lung [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Imagine if your kids went to school and 'caught' paralysis... Not so long ago. Ask you parents. Or your grandparents. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
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Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 72810823 United States 01/13/2017 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread is actually about babies that are born. And all those people that are currently alive at this very moment. Have you ever played with Poodwaddle? [link to www.poodwaddle.com] Change the counter to 'now' to really get a shocker... Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Trained Noticer Forum Moderator User ID: 73615735 United States 01/13/2017 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If my unvaxxed kid is a threat to your vaxxed kid... Quoting: snark you might rethink what you believe about vaccines. Plus- herd immunity is a farce and a joke. So critical! Excellent point! If a kid is vaccinated then why are they fearful of the unvaccinated! For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible. (Stuart Chase) It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. (Mark Twain) |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 72810823 United States 01/13/2017 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It should also be noted that giving birth is extremely dangerous. Historically and currently. For both the mother and baby. Lots of births go wrong. And not all babies are viable. Also, not all women can afford or want to be mothers. Circumstance often forces the hand. I have heard, many are haunted by it. Even after having later children. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
hankie Everything User ID: 71719409 United States 01/13/2017 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Viruses mutate, so, go ahead vaccinate it will do no good, in the year of no vaccines people had the measles mumps and Rubia, they did not die, if some did it was few and far between what was happening is an immunity passed from mother to child. Now, it would have to be repeated to get the new immunity for the child for the super ones. Mumps could be a problem for boys if they were not taken care of, that mean following the doctors orders, do not run around and cause yourself problems, Rubia was only dangerous to pregnant women who had not had Rubia, it could harm the child, and if they stayed away from them and were warned it was no problem. This is common sense which went out the window with vaccines. Even the polio vaccine was a lie, it caused more after the waning of polio, see polio is also one that builds immunity if it left to itself, other countries that have it, have less problem with it spread than we do. All in all the vaccine were given for an idea, not always a good one. Small pox had a bunch of literature to say it may have been treated wrong but I would go with a vaccine on this one and tetanus at the a more mature age, heck you can get it when you need it from and accidental cut. Right now, they are making up thing to give vaccines, and it crippling and causing harm plus killing children, if you studied the stats you would know this. We have been the subject of people who make money off this, it true and if they deny it, they lying through their teeth. You think they do it for free, freak no. They pat each other on the back, and hand out money to the corporation of these medical companies. There are a few which could be benefaction but not many. Some real research into all this needs to be done by people outside these corporations and with all the data that been gathered from the start. Sorry I got a headache These are the times that tries men's and women's souls! May we come though it victorious! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73777377 Canada 01/13/2017 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it feels wrong when you do it it most likely is. That is what we call a gut feeling. You're bred to know right from wrong. You'd have to have a screw loose to get that wrong. Abortion should not take place. It should not be allowed. In extreme cases of rape I could understand but that should not be used as a propaganda tool because the Nazis already used that. They terminated unwanted pregnancies, destroyed disabled people and so forth. Nazism is alive and well within pro abortionist stances. |