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Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?

 
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Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
Gravity doesn't exist?
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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
It's called education. The atmosphere is moving at the same velocity as the planet.

There are these things called libraries, they have books, you read them. Maybe you should learn how to read? Just a thought.
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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
I'm surprised you even know how to use a computer, you're very special.
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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
I'd like you to explain it. I don't see why it should be excluded.

By your logic, the object shouldn't fall at all.
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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
It's called education. The atmosphere is moving at the same velocity as the planet.

There are these things called libraries, they have books, you read them. Maybe you should learn how to read? Just a thought.
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Because everything (even the falling object)is already moving along with the earth.

Simple:
Image standing inside a moving train car(witha transparent side) at one end...you throw a ball to some standing at the opposite end...to you it makes a perfect 40 foot arc to your friend. To Some one standing on the ground outside as the train zips past; the ball is traveling forward several hundred feet while in the air...
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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
It's called education. The atmosphere is moving at the same velocity as the planet.

There are these things called libraries, they have books, you read them. Maybe you should learn how to read? Just a thought.
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Because everything (even the falling object)is already moving along with the earth.

Simple:
Image standing inside a moving train car(witha transparent side) at one end...you throw a ball to some standing at the opposite end...to you it makes a perfect 40 foot arc to your friend. To Some one standing on the ground outside as the train zips past; the ball is traveling forward several hundred feet while in the air...
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This is only applicable to an enclosed environment. Are you saying that the entire earth is enclosed? I'm to understand that some of the lighter gases escape through the ozone.
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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
The earth is not moving, it is the stars that are rotating around us.


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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
It's called education. The atmosphere is moving at the same velocity as the planet.

There are these things called libraries, they have books, you read them. Maybe you should learn how to read? Just a thought.
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Because everything (even the falling object)is already moving along with the earth.

Simple:
Image standing inside a moving train car(witha transparent side) at one end...you throw a ball to some standing at the opposite end...to you it makes a perfect 40 foot arc to your friend. To Some one standing on the ground outside as the train zips past; the ball is traveling forward several hundred feet while in the air...
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This is only applicable to an enclosed environment. Are you saying that the entire earth is enclosed? I'm to understand that some of the lighter gases escape through the ozone.
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Uhhh, yes the entire Earth IS enclosed. It is called the "atmosphere" and for the most part encloses us just fine, certainly a lot better than the train's walls in your example.
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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
There is an entire science in atmospheric science and fluid dynamics. But the bottom line is that the atmosphere rotates with the planet pretty much. There are "belts" of prevailing winds that are the exception, but, all in all, the atmosphere rotates with the planet. Take some courses or read up on meteorology, but be forewarned, it is a very complex system. Meteorologists are pretty special folks...
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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
I'd like you to explain it. I don't see why it should be excluded.

By your logic, the object shouldn't fall at all.
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no one is excluding the force of the rotating earth. By all means you should include and account for this in your equations.
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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
It's called education. The atmosphere is moving at the same velocity as the planet.

There are these things called libraries, they have books, you read them. Maybe you should learn how to read? Just a thought.
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Because everything (even the falling object)is already moving along with the earth.

Simple:
Image standing inside a moving train car(witha transparent side) at one end...you throw a ball to some standing at the opposite end...to you it makes a perfect 40 foot arc to your friend. To Some one standing on the ground outside as the train zips past; the ball is traveling forward several hundred feet while in the air...
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If everything is already moving at the speed of the planets rotation then why do snipers "have to account" for the
coriolis effect?
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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
The earth is not moving, it is the stars that are rotating around us.


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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
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That would be the advanced course.

The stuff you learn in high school, basic mechanics, doesn't even take air resistance into account.
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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
He is talking about the centrifugal force... (you know, m*v*v/r)
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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
The earth is not moving, it is the stars that are rotating around us.


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Dude..... Please promise you'll never have children.
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Why are we so quick to insult others? Where did this disease come from?
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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
It's called education. The atmosphere is moving at the same velocity as the planet.

There are these things called libraries, they have books, you read them. Maybe you should learn how to read? Just a thought.
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Because everything (even the falling object)is already moving along with the earth.

Simple:
Image standing inside a moving train car(witha transparent side) at one end...you throw a ball to some standing at the opposite end...to you it makes a perfect 40 foot arc to your friend. To Some one standing on the ground outside as the train zips past; the ball is traveling forward several hundred feet while in the air...
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If everything is already moving at the speed of the planets rotation then why do snipers "have to account" for the
coriolis effect?
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Because what they fire moves horizontally through areas of different rotation speed. A falling object tends to move down. Maybe objects don't fall down where you live?
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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
It's called education. The atmosphere is moving at the same velocity as the planet.

There are these things called libraries, they have books, you read them. Maybe you should learn how to read? Just a thought.
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You basicly say that every molecul in the air is bound to the spot on the ground beneath it? That is the only way it can move with the same velocity as the plane-t and to avoid a wind from east to west with an exact opposite velocity as the plane-t
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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
Gravity doesn't exist?
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The curvature of the earth, or the coriolis efferct, comes into account when a sniper fires at long distances.

Every sniper knows the earth is round...
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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
Gravity doesn't exist?
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Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?

It is, you just don't understand it. That's why you think gravity is fake. Please prove your point by walking off a cliff...
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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
It's called education. The atmosphere is moving at the same velocity as the planet.

There are these things called libraries, they have books, you read them. Maybe you should learn how to read? Just a thought.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59067407


Because everything (even the falling object)is already moving along with the earth.

Simple:
Image standing inside a moving train car(witha transparent side) at one end...you throw a ball to some standing at the opposite end...to you it makes a perfect 40 foot arc to your friend. To Some one standing on the ground outside as the train zips past; the ball is traveling forward several hundred feet while in the air...
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This is only applicable to an enclosed environment. Are you saying that the entire earth is enclosed? I'm to understand that some of the lighter gases escape through the ozone.
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Only applies to an "Enclosed environment"???

Of course not: It's got nothing to do with the atmosphere moving. The entire frame of reference (earth) is moving, (along with the ball and observers).... Don't know why I waste time responding to this third grade ass hattery. "

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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
Gravity doesn't exist?
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Objects falling from space should not be affected by earths rotation at all. Do we know of any meteors falling to earth in the same direction of spin? It should look like it is going slowly through the sky.
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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
Gravity doesn't exist?
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Objects falling from space should not be affected by earths rotation at all. Do we know of any meteors falling to earth in the same direction of spin? It should look like it is going slowly through the sky.
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Meteors falling to the west should be fast as fuck. Falling east, a lot slower.

Is this the case?
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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
Gravity doesn't exist?
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Objects falling from space should not be affected by earths rotation at all. Do we know of any meteors falling to earth in the same direction of spin? It should look like it is going slowly through the sky.
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Meteors falling to the west should be fast as fuck. Falling east, a lot slower.

Is this the case?
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Meteors enter the atmosphere at speed between 25,000 and 160,000 mph. You really think you'll visually see a difference of at most 1,000 mph (assuming you're on the equator) for those speeds?
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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
Gravity doesn't exist?
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Objects falling from space should not be affected by earths rotation at all. Do we know of any meteors falling to earth in the same direction of spin? It should look like it is going slowly through the sky.
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Meteors falling to the west should be fast as fuck. Falling east, a lot slower.

Is this the case?
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Meteors enter the atmosphere at speed between 25,000 and 160,000 mph. You really think you'll visually see a difference of at most 1,000 mph (assuming you're on the equator) for those speeds?
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Going the other way getting into orbit we DO see a difference though. It requires less energy to get a rocket to orbit when launched East than when launched to the West.
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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
They should execute everyone without a highschool diploma, so I don't have to be bothered with poisonous stupidity threads like these.

The fact they didn't dress the afterbirth and throw OP out with the bathwater is evidence there is no god.
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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
I'd like you to explain it. I don't see why it should be excluded.

By your logic, the object shouldn't fall at all.
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Wow...so people can still use a pc with the intellect of a coconut.
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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
It's called education. The atmosphere is moving at the same velocity as the planet.

There are these things called libraries, they have books, you read them. Maybe you should learn how to read? Just a thought.
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Do you know what a jet stream is?
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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
Gravity doesn't exist?
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Why don't you perform a simple experiment?

Buy a long see-through plastic tube, with about a 6" diameter. Install an apple on the inside of the tube at one end with a detachable mechanism (perhaps a moveable plate).

Pull a vacuum in the tube, the maximum the tube can support without imploding.

Orient the length of the tube vertically to the earths surface with the apple at the top.

Release the apple.

What happens?
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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
Newton much
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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
You could say a bullet fired out of a gun will fall at the same speed as another round dropped at the same time.

In theory it seems true and valid.

But in real life the bullet fired stays elevated a slight bit longer.

Because the Earth is CURVED.....lol
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Re: Why isn't the force of the rotating earth accounted for in the equation for a falling object?
Density much





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