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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72016321 Finland 01/26/2017 01:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Had a discussion with an athiest today and he left pissed. I just made a couple of points. Sheesh. Silly OP. You don't need to believe in God, Jesus or any other work of fiction to live according to what you call the Golden Rule (but which predates Christianity and is perfectly rational without any belief in God-entities). Or are you saying that your faith in God is the only thing that's keeping you from committing mass murder, or going on a raping spree? It's pathetic if anyone needs an imaginary daddy figure to tell him that you are not supposed to hurt other people. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 54153377 United States 01/26/2017 02:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Had a discussion with an athiest today and he left pissed. I just made a couple of points. Sheesh. Silly OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72016321 You don't need to believe in God, Jesus or any other work of fiction to live according to what you call the Golden Rule (but which predates Christianity and is perfectly rational without any belief in God-entities). Or are you saying that your faith in God is the only thing that's keeping you from committing mass murder, or going on a raping spree? It's pathetic if anyone needs an imaginary daddy figure to tell him that you are not supposed to hurt other people. Work of fiction with the insurmountable amount of evidence via historical manuscripts, non Biblical sources and historical evidence? Surely you jest. And ignore all the prophecies fulfilled? You obviously don't understand how evolution works whatsoever, or you ignore it because you can't argue it. And to talk of some kind of golden rule, and then laugh at needing a daddy figure? Oh wait, you must believe that existence happened by accident. Heh. You do know that an immaterial mind is required to create a material universe, scientifically? Why do people who have such a bad grasp on logic try and post as if they have it all figured out and make themselves look so silly? I really wonder that. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 54153377 United States 01/26/2017 02:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Had a discussion with an athiest today and he left pissed. I just made a couple of points. Sheesh. Silly OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72016321 You don't need to believe in God, Jesus or any other work of fiction to live according to what you call the Golden Rule (but which predates Christianity and is perfectly rational without any belief in God-entities). Or are you saying that your faith in God is the only thing that's keeping you from committing mass murder, or going on a raping spree? It's pathetic if anyone needs an imaginary daddy figure to tell him that you are not supposed to hurt other people. Do this. Prove to me that murder is wrong. Go. |
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Bible Reader User ID: 52588730 United States 01/26/2017 02:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Had a discussion with an athiest today and he left pissed. I just made a couple of points. Sheesh. This is where you err. It is neither about Christ, nor about yourself. It is about the middle path, that few have walked. Which is the combination of the two, and in this case, 1+1=3. He who has ears to hear, let him hear. |
Lilac.Nights User ID: 72736453 United States 01/26/2017 02:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Had a discussion with an athiest today and he left pissed. I just made a couple of points. Sheesh. Me: You know I don't give two shits about God or religion or any of that garbage. You: OK. Well, start here. Do you believe there is such a thing as right and wrong? Me: Well, it depends... You: Really. Alright. Well then, what if another person decides that their truth is the correct way, and that includes murdering people? Me: Hmmm...it depends on the particular situation and their point of view... You: Who says? Me: I do, obviously lol....so you want to hear me say that killing is wrong. Maybe... You: No. It is Judeo Christian law. Some Eastern philosophies teach that life has value, but not in the same way. So if YOU say that mudering others is wrong, who is to say that you aren't wrong? Maybe murdering people and ending their lives is great. As a matter of fact, you believe in Darwinism right? Me: I never said that murdering is wrong...and, no, I do not believe in Darwinism. You: Well then, murder is neither good nor bad. The strong survive. If someone is murdered it is thinning out the herd, their inferior genetics need to be removed. Me: OK? Get to your point. You: Ive told you before, the Bible contains tons of fulfilled prophecy, about Christ, 100% accurate. You want to sit down and look at it? And yeah, if you remove Christianity, true Bible believing Christianity, you end up with self worship, self absorption.....it has to be about Jesus and not yourself. Me: What are you talking about? We were discussing murder... |
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Lilac.Nights User ID: 72736453 United States 01/26/2017 03:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Had a discussion with an athiest today and he left pissed. I just made a couple of points. Sheesh. OP, I know you think this is how a conversation with an atheist would go...but, it wouldn't. Why don't you ask a real person? It seems, it is difficult for you to imagine what it is to live a life without a religion. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73333051 United States 01/26/2017 03:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Had a discussion with an athiest today and he left pissed. I just made a couple of points. Sheesh. Speaking as an atheist, the average atheist has extremely thin skin, treats science as religion (blindly acceptance which is the antithesis of science), and is generally unequipped to debate theists. Not that there's a point to debating theists anyway. We'll never know who's right. |
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Doomy Tunes User ID: 72209426 Guam 01/26/2017 03:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Had a discussion with an athiest today and he left pissed. I just made a couple of points. Sheesh. Bullshit! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69405289 If Jesus Christ were real why would he allow murder or any evil to happen in the 1st place? God in the bible is genocidal and kills babies…. Babies. Go ask a mormon to explain it to you. 7 years of prosperity begins the first week of April 2017, followed by 7 years of devastation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72447770 United States 01/26/2017 03:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Had a discussion with an athiest today and he left pissed. I just made a couple of points. Sheesh. Going through a rough time and asking for advice. I told him prayer and Jesus Christ get me through. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54153377 Him: You know I don't give two shits about God or religion or any of that garbage. Me: OK. Well, start here. Do you believe there is such a thing as right and wrong? Him: Well yeah. But truth is an individual decision. Me: Really. Alright. Well then, what if another person decides that their truth is the correct way, and that includes murdering people? Him: That would be wrong, because no one has a right to take another life. Me: Who says? Him: It is pretty much a universal law. Me: No. It is Judeo Christian law. Some Eastern philosophies teach that life has value, but not in the same way. So if YOU say that mudering others is wrong, who is to say that you aren't wrong? Maybe murdering people and ending their lives is great. As a matter of fact, you believe in Darwinism right? Him: Evolution, the universally accepted scientific theory? Yes. Me: Well then, murder is neither good nor bad. The strong survive. If someone is murdered it is thinning out the herd, their inferior genetics need to be removed. Him: Nice. So now mass murder is ok because I dont believe in Jesus. Me: Ive told you before, the Bible contains tons of fulfilled prophecy, about Christ, 100% accurate. You want to sit down and look at it? And yeah, if you remove Christianity, true Bible believing Christianity, you end up with self worship, self absorption.....it has to be about Jesus and not yourself. A little more bickering and he left angry. Damn! This is the dumbest shit I've seen today. And you're proud of it! LOL! Your "logic" is so flawed on so many levels it's sad. If the guy had been just a little sharper, he could have easily refuted you when you claimed that "Judeo-Christianity" was responsible for coming up with the idea that taking another human life is wrong. THAT'S wrong. It's simply an innate, normal way for people to think. It's only religion that ever made it ok and Christianity devalues life when it demands worship of a fake god. "Worship or die" is basically what Christianity and other mid eastern religions teach (Islam, for example). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73374315 United States 01/26/2017 03:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Had a discussion with an athiest today and he left pissed. I just made a couple of points. Sheesh. Proving murder is wrong is pretty easy. We all mostly agree on this one, that is why we have courts, prisons and such to deal with transgressions of the law, which we all pretty much agree on because it makes sense on so many wavelengths of consideration. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 528670 Netherlands 01/26/2017 04:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Had a discussion with an athiest today and he left pissed. I just made a couple of points. Sheesh. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54153377 Me: Ive told you before, the Bible contains tons of fulfilled prophecy, about Christ, 100% accurate. You want to sit down and look at it? And yeah, if you remove Christianity, true Bible believing Christianity, you end up with self worship, self absorption.....it has to be about Jesus and not yourself. ... Your claim that the bible contains tons of fulfilled prophecy is a debatable issue. With the so called "ton of fulfilled prophecies", you have the luxury of hindsight to make a force fitting justification to fit the prophecy with history. And even with that hindsight, RationaWiki ( [link to rationalwiki.org] ) can show many of the unfulfilled prophecy. And then it will turn into debate where Christian would claim either it's symbolic not meant to happen literally, or some other excuses to keep justifying the claim of fulfilled prophecy. Now, the better way to prove your point that bible contained fulfilled prophecy, is to tell about prophecy of the future that will be fulfilled in a week, or a month or a year or in 2 or 5 years from now. If Christians can do that, it will raise the credential of Christian's claim of fulfilled prophecy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68935741 France 01/26/2017 04:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Had a discussion with an athiest today and he left pissed. I just made a couple of points. Sheesh. Um... This is a very poor argument. Religion or God aren't necessary to tell right from wrong. I don't understand why religious people always think religion is necessary for this. All you need is the GOLDEN RULE. Do to others what you would want them to do to you. Murder isn't wrong because of the Bible. Murder is wrong because it's not something you would want done to you, therefore it is wrong to do to others. The Golden rule doesn't rely on religion to tell you what's right and wrong. It relies on basic logic. And no, God/Jesus did NOT invent this concept. It has been around for as long as humans could think. By the way, I do believe in God. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73391481 Finland 01/26/2017 04:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Had a discussion with an athiest today and he left pissed. I just made a couple of points. Sheesh. Silly OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72016321 You don't need to believe in God, Jesus or any other work of fiction to live according to what you call the Golden Rule (but which predates Christianity and is perfectly rational without any belief in God-entities). Or are you saying that your faith in God is the only thing that's keeping you from committing mass murder, or going on a raping spree? It's pathetic if anyone needs an imaginary daddy figure to tell him that you are not supposed to hurt other people. Do this. Prove to me that murder is wrong. Go. Prove it to me. Saying that "God says so" is not proof. Murder deprives another human being of his life. I wouldn't want it done to me, so it's wrong to do it to another human being. It's just as simple as that. You just have trouble trying to imagine how to live your life without religion. I am an atheist and I don't feel the need to go murdering or raping people. Why is that? You, on the other hand, sound like someone who would go berserk if it weren't for your Bible and God telling you not to do it. This is a mindset I just don't get. Why do you need some external entity to keep you from hurting other people? I don't need one to feel empathy and respect for other people. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33958286 United States 01/26/2017 05:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Had a discussion with an athiest today and he left pissed. I just made a couple of points. Sheesh. Seriously? Its people like you who give Christ followers a bad name. Your story is elementary, made-up shit, excuse me, Bull-shit. i don't mean to sound harsh bro, but if this is a serious attempt at evangelism, you gotta do better than this. Its weak shit. Weak. If you lie, or make up scenarios, or try to "trick" people into something with cutsey tricks, it's bullshit and only guessing here cause i don't pretend to speak for God, but i doubt he wants you to lie in order to win converts. You end up making it all about you and not about Christ. Show a little faith in what you proclaim to believe in. Truth is truth. And He handles the outcome, not you and not your agenda. Its very simple, not easy, but simple. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63573762 Germany 01/26/2017 05:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Had a discussion with an athiest today and he left pissed. I just made a couple of points. Sheesh. Silly OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72016321 You don't need to believe in God, Jesus or any other work of fiction to live according to what you call the Golden Rule (but which predates Christianity and is perfectly rational without any belief in God-entities). Or are you saying that your faith in God is the only thing that's keeping you from committing mass murder, or going on a raping spree? It's pathetic if anyone needs an imaginary daddy figure to tell him that you are not supposed to hurt other people. Do this. Prove to me that murder is wrong. Go. Murder is wrong because of SIMPLE LOGIC. Not religion. You wouldn't want to be murdered, so you don't murder other people because they suffer and have families and feelings just like you. If you don't want it done to you, don't do it to other people because they are equivalent to you. It's something children learn at a very young age, with or without religion. If you need religion or books to tell you murder is wrong, you are a sociopath. Your argument only makes yourself and religious people look dumb to anyone with a brain. Please stop embarrassing yourself... You look really stupid here. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73792871 Spain 01/26/2017 06:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Had a discussion with an athiest today and he left pissed. I just made a couple of points. Sheesh. Silly OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72016321 You don't need to believe in God, Jesus or any other work of fiction to live according to what you call the Golden Rule (but which predates Christianity and is perfectly rational without any belief in God-entities). Or are you saying that your faith in God is the only thing that's keeping you from committing mass murder, or going on a raping spree? It's pathetic if anyone needs an imaginary daddy figure to tell him that you are not supposed to hurt other people. Do this. Prove to me that murder is wrong. Go. Murder is wrong because of SIMPLE LOGIC. Not religion. You wouldn't want to be murdered, so you don't murder other people because they suffer and have families and feelings just like you. If you don't want it done to you, don't do it to other people because they are equivalent to you. It's something children learn at a very young age, with or without religion. If you need religion or books to tell you murder is wrong, you are a sociopath. Your argument only makes yourself and religious people look dumb to anyone with a brain. Please stop embarrassing yourself... You look really stupid here. you fucking full! if yiu believe in evolution, a concept of murder is most nonsensical thing ever. ut you seem to think otherwise, inserting your morals here, trying to establish a standard, imposing yourself as god. You are non intelligent beast. |
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