President Trump, CHANGE THE UNJUST CHILD SUPPORT LAWS!

In the same boat. I agree OP

Hey op I feel your pain...

My husband went through this a few years ago and was paying current and back of $225.00 per week for many years.

The State makes bank off those % sss charged so they can keep the racket going.

I warned my daughter and the father of her children(not married)ta get along and stay out of the system.

They both live together with the kids....he works outside the home and bust his ass so she can be a stay at home mom..no day care where the little ones would probably be abused and stay sick.

I help with extras when I can..i just paid my daughters cost on Car insurance/tags and keep my eye out for clothes/shoes etc when I can get a sale.


Its worth it ta me so my grand children aren't thrown into a system of abuse..i stayed home with my children and they see I made the right choice for them.

We need to go back to the Biblical days .... Patriarchy ... When men ruled their household! Everything belonged to the man, children, wife, house, possessions, etc. If a wife wanted a divorce she was free to go, she got to take nothing with her, no kids, no support, etc. ... What we have now is an abomination to Gods most Holy word! A man is to rule his own household and a wife must submit to him in everything as the Bible says. Jesus Christ is Lord!

I wouldn't go that far....Shit.

YES! We need to go back to Gods Holy Word ... the BIBLE!

Breaks my heart watching my son go to work for years, provide for his family then watch as his wife found a new love. My son did not want a divorce or to be forced out of the house that he alone paid for. Now he's paying $1,200 a month for his 2 daughters. The ex remarried, living in the house my son bought and they are living a great life while my son struggles to keep a roof over his head. And yet he still covers & makes excuses for his ex. Guess he'll always love her.

Fall in love, get married, then oooops! This sad tale reminded me of a story concerning a Mormon man whose wife left him and their 5 kids, aged 2-10 years old. For another man. He had it pretty rough working a full-time job then coming home to cook dinner, clean the kitchen, get the kids off to bed, make their lunches for the following day. Get up the next morning to see the school-aged kids off to school, take the little ones to a baby sitter, work all day, then do it all over again. Weekends were spent cleaning house, doing the washing and putting the clean clothes away, and grocery shopping, taking the kids to the park.

That went on for awhile before he stuck his kids with a couple willing to take them in. He visited the kids once a week, but it hurt him to hear them cry that they wanted to go back home. The visits became fewer and farther between until he abandoned them altogether and struck out to begin a new life.

I doubt the above is a unique story. Women are not appreciated for the work they do to maintain a home, and all they see is a future of drudgery with very little thanks, if any. If a man isn't prepared to take on the responsibility of truly caring for his wife, then he ought to make damned sure there won't be any children to support. When she's gone, she's gone.

we realy need the economy to go back to how it was in the 60's-70's were one parent would stay home and the other could support the whole family. I don't care if it's the man or the woman at home.

I think this would solve a lot of marriage issues, and lower the divorce rate.

If you choose to be a deadbeat and don't want joint custody, 50/50, then you get to pay for child support. That's how it works. If you don't like it, keep it in your pants and don't have kids you can't afford.

If you don't already have joint custody, hire a lawyer. Or move to a better state that isn't so ass-backward.

What needs to happen is a women looses their custody of children when they divorce, they do not get a free ride, eliminate child support and alimony. If they wish to depart they are free to go and not take a single thing with them. They of course can stay and work things out with their husband and submit to his authority as the Bible teaches even calling her husband her master. This is what the Bible says! Jesus Christ is Lord!!!

I agree, up here in CT it is BS what happens to men. make the Women work!!!! Fuckin democrats and thier destabilization tactics.

Aw, listen to the little snowflake cry. Man up or stay a loser.

I totally agree with you. Women need to realize that this will also make them the happiest. What could possibly fulfill a woman more then raising her children and showing them compassion and love?

I think women are too busy comparing their lives with what they see online, TV and from other people. Stop trying to keep up with everyone else and realize you have all you need to make you happy.

I think this would solve a lot of marriage issues, and lower the divorce rate.


Nobody understand what is going on. Yes, you are right if conditions are the same. But it is not. Inflation is the name of hidden Taxes. The more we pay into Taxes, the less we have to spend to survive. Andy Ruso was friend to Rockfellow. They spent 2 million dollars to promote feminism and said woman are the other half tax payers. Which means the industrialists were avoiding to pay Taxes dumping it on other half. The middle class fall for it. Now both husband & wife work and yet it is getting harder to make ends meet.

Consequently the marriage falls apart because they burn out. Don't have the ability to analyze and start to blame each other for anything.

I am 72 years old, came to this country in 1970. The country I belong, the mother of the groom had the tendency to watch everything. If she sensed stress, she would suggest the young couple to go somewhere. You call it vacation. Vacation cost money. But I witnessed, traditionally there was no cost on the part of mother in law. She was available for help any time they needed help. If the kids were involved, mother in law would take care of them. Those traditions are gone, today we hate each other. There is no understanding. Ignorance prevail. I wish I could stand in front of you take questions to answer. But I am not a member. I can't do that.

Even when it is 50/50 the child support is a ratio on what you make. You can have 50/50 and still pay child support if you make more than your spouse.

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Yeah! Even if he beats and cheats.

Deal with it bitches for you are to submit yourself to the male NO MATTER WHAT! So sayith this guys god.

There are some real nutjobs in this world ... sheesh ... this guy that posted this is the same as a feminut, except with a penis.

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Haven't you heard Jesus came and set us free

Take care of your kid! Next time wrap your weiner!

I think this would solve a lot of marriage issues, and lower the divorce rate.


Nobody understand what is going on. Yes, you are right if conditions are the same. But it is not. Inflation is the name of hidden Taxes. The more we pay into Taxes, the less we have to spend to survive. Andy Ruso was friend to Rockfellow. They spent 2 million dollars to promote feminism and said woman are the other half tax payers. Which means the industrialists were avoiding to pay Taxes dumping it on other half. The middle class fall for it. Now both husband & wife work and yet it is getting harder to make ends meet.

Consequently the marriage falls apart because they burn out. Don't have the ability to analyze and start to blame each other for anything.

I am 72 years old, came to this country in 1970. The country I belong, the mother of the groom had the tendency to watch everything. If she sensed stress, she would suggest the young couple to go somewhere. You call it vacation. Vacation cost money. But I witnessed, traditionally there was no cost on the part of mother in law. She was available for help any time they needed help. If the kids were involved, mother in law would take care of them. Those traditions are gone, today we hate each other. There is no understanding. Ignorance prevail. I wish I could stand in front of you take questions to answer. But I am not a member. I can't do that.


I appreciate you taking the time to respond. I look up to elder people for their insight and wisdom they can provide. How I would have loved to experience a different American era, though, we do live in exciting times.

My mother, and father, is VERY conservative, almost hermetic. But they are available to watch my two sons WHENEVER needed. She homeschooled me and my sisters (just kidding), MY sisters and I! ha

Yes, it's what everyone dreams of over here, VACATION. Just to get away and let stress fall away. I live in Minnesota, and I swear that the winter really changes people over here. Which has led to my wife and I creating a dream to get out to the west coast (best gardening in the USA), and set ourselves up for the longterm. Grow organic foods and fruit trees, live the farm life. I can't think of anything that would be more rewarding raising a family in this environment.

Anyways, thanks for taking the time to chat. :)

Hell if my husbands payment gets any lower I wont be getting anything he complains every time he gives me a payment of $50 per month for the 2 girls. Maybe justice does need to be done figuring he has a new home and I can't even pay the damn bills in the old place.

It's not about that. Maybe educate yourself a little before engaging such a strong "knee-jerk" response. You only ASSUME I don't want to take care of my kid.

Let me tell you a VERY short version of my story. I dated my ex for 6 years before marriage, got married in Mexico, dream vacation, love of my life. Were married for 3 years, stable house, stable income, both working, decided to have our FIRST child. Had a baby boy, precious, joy of our lives, but the pregnancy seemed to change her a bit.

When my son was 14 months old, I come home to her packing all her stuff, she's moving out, nothing I can do would change her mind, would barely tell me why she was leaving. Come to find out later, she is moving in with another man, who I obviously assume she has been cheating on me with. I mourned for a few days, it crushed me. BUT I got over it and wanted only to be there for my baby boy.

I decided to forgive her, it was hard, but I was able to for the sake of my son. We were cordial for A YEAR AND A HALF!! Switching parenting time every 2 or 3 days, as we agreed that a 50/50 time schedule was best. We also decided together that she would pay the medical bills and daycare bills, and I wanted to help provide for my son still. I was paid bi-weekly and thought that $200 bi-weekly ($400 a month), would be fair to take care of his medical and daycare expenses, food and clothing was to be each of our own responsibility, SHE AGREED.

After the year and a have cordial relationship, I started dating someone new, and the shit hit the fan. Before I knew it she was serving me with court papers at my new job, and going for full custody. I can't even list all the crazy stuff that went down, but I pretty much have gotten all of my parenting time taken away, lost religious, education and medical decisions with him taken away. I see him 70 days out of the year and pay $850 a month for him to be "taken care of".

I'll end it with this. If all of this was insulting enough, she sat on the witness stand at the custody hearing, sworn in, and DENIED I had ever given her the $200 BI-WEEKLY! (which totaled around $6,500 at the time) She was trying to get even MORE MONEY, even though it was "never about the money". Thank God I was able to prove her wrong being she submitted a document early in the court process, admitting herself that she had been receiving these payments. I asked her on the witness stand (I represented MYSELF), why the discrepancy, and she turned into a stuttering fool. But no repercussions for lying under oath, the system didn't care, they were just transferring legal rights of everything mine, to her because of coarse she is now the "primary caretaker".

The system is built for women to do this, every educated person I know recognizes this FACT. Get educated, your brothers and sisters are SLAVES to taxation, and your complacent personality is only helping further their agenda.

Hope you find out before it's too late. Peace to you and your family.

Are you sure it's your kid?

File for a downward mod. Have your stats in order including but not limited to:

All expenses
All the others you support
Your income
Your belongings,
X-s belongings
Days of custody

If you have a house, a boat, jets skis and a harley, stfu.
If your doing dope, stfu. They know it because the bug all parties phones.
If you have a rap sheet a mile long, stfu and get your act together.
If your facing eviction, get a lawyer....that is a) the same party as the judge and b) knows the judge.

Interview the lawyer(s), dont sit there like a sheep. Even if they are public defenders.

One last thing, If she's doing dope and your not, get sober 100%, pissing spring water. For at least two years. Then file new petition for custody, then offer to pay for hair tests for all parties (always works). Piss test anyone can beat.

I could not have said it better. This is destroying men that are divorced. They can't get ahead with the insane amount of child support the states are asking for these days. And its only getting higher every year. Now its 25 to 50 percent of wages in some states. While pro welfare people collect snap child support and live off income tax. This is insanity.

Yeah right stop milking the system.

Post of the year! I

I took the other tack.

Got remarried, made a good home, got 50/50 custody. They can't deny that if you have a family atmosphere.

If you live out of motels and your car it isn't going to work.

Marry a woman as a mother to you kids. Not as some hot model social party girl.

50/50 custody she pays you half the time.