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Did this woman invent Rock n Roll?

 
Anonymous Coward
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02/18/2009 09:34 PM
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Re: Did this woman invent Rock n Roll?
no, elvis took a bag of garbage and made it into something awesome.

he invented rock n roll.

rap will be the same, nobody will enjoy until a white man takes it and make into something freaking awesome.

ok?

thats life, live with it!

While she undoubtedly played an important roll, it is the
song "Saturday Night Fish Fry" that is regarded as the birth
song of Rock and Roll. Mainly the 1949 recording done by
Louis Jordan and His Tympany Five.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
There are links at the bottom of that Wiki to the lyrics
and an mp3 of the song.

Of course, Elvis played the most important part by making
it "ok" to listen to black music, as long as a white person
performed it.

To this day many of the pioneers of Rock and Roll, mainly
blues musicians from the 30s, 40s, and 50s who's lyrics
saw their way into Led Zeppelin and ZZ Top songs have almost
never received the credit they are due.
 Quoting: DrPostman
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Re: Did this woman invent Rock n Roll?
what I am saying is:

basketball for afro americans
music for whities
tennis for blondes
ping pong for japs

get it?
tomorrow

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02/18/2009 09:44 PM
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That was amazing! What a visionary.

If gospel was like that now I might be into it. Sundays are great in my neighborhood, I watch the people dressed in their finest walking to the one of the oldest Baptist Churches in my city. That vid makes me want to peek my pale face in just to hear the music.

Great find. Thank you Mathetes.
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02/18/2009 10:37 PM

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That was amazing! What a visionary.

If gospel was like that now I might be into it. Sundays are great in my neighborhood, I watch the people dressed in their finest walking to the one of the oldest Baptist Churches in my city. That vid makes me want to peek my pale face in just to hear the music.

Great find. Thank you Mathetes.
 Quoting: tomorrow

My pleasure! Glad you enjoyed it
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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Re: Did this woman invent Rock n Roll?
Decent.
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02/18/2009 10:46 PM
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O M G

excellent
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02/18/2009 11:01 PM
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To those who complain about sampling and the lack of "talented" musicians today, please note that sampling is to music what the collage is to painting or the cut-up to writing. It is a valid form of artistic expression, creating something new from other bits and pieces.

Ripping a few bars from a Funkadelic record, putting it on a loop and talking over top of it about bitches and hoes does not make for music.

Rap is a different story, even though alot of it uses sampled loops and drum machines. 99.999% percent of it is commercial garbage designed to brainwash the ghetto kids and the yuppie suburban swine-brats who want to be like gangsta. Nevertheless, there are artists who are writing original, insightful lyrics and composing worthwhile tracks. Whether you call it music is a subjective decision. I look at rap more like spoken word poetry with some background noise/music. It started to some extent with people like the Last Poets (look it up) and today we still have people like Immortal Technique who are very intelligent and insightful. I'm not big on the rap scene myself so I can't give better examples.

Now, to go back to the true groundbreaking experimental artists who are using samplers and other electronic gear...most of the musicians I know, my self included, use lots of this stuff. We also play instruments, know music theory, understand the craft of songwriting and can carry a tune (more or less.)

Anyone who thinks sampling is not a valid way to create art should really check out Negativland:





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02/18/2009 11:11 PM
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That's a nice distortion she's getting. Raw for the early 60s, but not unheard of. That playing seems so out of place in that setting, it's awesome. Thanks OP. And imagine the 'boys club' that this black woman had to contend with at that time. Inspiring! And she had some pipes too! WOW!
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Re: Did this woman invent Rock n Roll?
sorry to be the realist here but Rock n Roll was invented BEFORE the electric guitar... HELLO...
mathetes (OP)

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Re: Did this woman invent Rock n Roll?
That's a nice distortion she's getting. Raw for the early 60s, but not unheard of. That playing seems so out of place in that setting, it's awesome. Thanks OP. And imagine the 'boys club' that this black woman had to contend with at that time. Inspiring! And she had some pipes too! WOW!
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Very well said!
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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Re: Did this woman invent Rock n Roll?
i still say she didnt... but this is a great song :)

and thats from an avid 'rap' fan. this is a great song.

Two points, rap isn't music, it's crap, and chances are if you like it you have 0 taste in music.

rock-n-roll is a black invention one way or the other.

ok i have two points to make.

#1. what you consider music doesnt mean a god damn thing to me.

#2. you cant relate.


and wow, look there.... a form of music that is different then the norm...... sort of like..... the blues and rock and roll were considered in the first 10 or 20 years of its conception.

god forbid music progress in a direction you dont respect or agree with! that would be horrible!

wait... does this sound familiar?

oh wait... this whole thread wasnt intended in putting down anyones taste in music... and yet you decided to take it in that direction. kudos, white person. kudos.



Look, buddy, in 1960 if negros had sang songs like the "kill whitey" crap that is rap music, they're probably wouldn't have been a civil rights movement because everyone would have been in the "Klan" and there wouldn't be any blacks left to liberate!
i stood up for the blacks in the sixties as a child, and now dumbass NIGGAS or whatever they call themselves want the freedom to talk shit about killing innocent people for whatever reason, or each other.
LMAO, you poor stupid bastard, rap music is meant to seriously impair your mind and your thinking, and you buy into it because the tv told you to and your friends pressured you to conform , I would hope it not because you actually LIKE it!
. Rock has soul, and rap has demons...I'll bet you didn't even know the sound system you use to reproduce sub audible frequencies also effects brain functionality withen 50 ft of the vehicle or loudspeaker producing the sound, did ya? The magnetic fields produced by loudspeakers being fed ELF frequencies (inaudible bass) are brainwave frequencies.

Exposure can seriously impair your judgement and your redefine your normal personality by inducing excited, aggresive, frightened, angry, depressed ,catatonic emotional states,or whatever emotional response is desired, making subsonic sound reproduction a pshycotronic device. the huge magnets in the speakers and the tremendous power consumption should be a clue to you something isnt right, and it's not. RAP MUSIC IS GENOCIDE AGAINST THE BLACK RACE

I'll bet you didn't know you can kill a motherfucker with sound either, did ya?
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Wow what a total tool.
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Re: Did this woman invent Rock n Roll?
um... everybody knows that SiNDADDY invented rocknroll.

duh.
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02/11/2010 11:17 PM
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Re: Did this woman invent Rock n Roll?
Awesome!

Yeah I think rock definately has it's roots in the black culture of the time.

Good find Math.

Thank you and Witness, I thought this was mind blowing, you can see where Chuck Berry got his riffs!
 Quoting: mathetes

Very cool! I was going to say she's like the female Chuck Berry. Too bad she didn't get famous and rich.
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In your search for the roots of rock n roll don't forget Carl Perkins who wrote Blue Suede shoes. He, Elvis, and Johnny Cash were the original record artists for Sun Records. He called his music Rockabilly.
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OMG, that is so cool to see grandma getting down like that!
You Dont Have A Soul. You Are A Soul. You Have A Body.
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02/11/2010 11:42 PM
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Re: Did this woman invent Rock n Roll?
That's a nice distortion she's getting. Raw for the early 60s, but not unheard of. That playing seems so out of place in that setting, it's awesome. Thanks OP. And imagine the 'boys club' that this black woman had to contend with at that time. Inspiring! And she had some pipes too! WOW!

Very well said!
 Quoting: mathetes

bump your own bullshit!
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02/11/2010 11:43 PM
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Re: Did this woman invent Rock n Roll?
Sam Phillips should be mentioned here as he started Sun Records which allowed him to recorded future blues greats B. B. King and Howlin' Wolf.

He also discovered Carl Perkins, Jerry Lee Lewis, Johnny Cash, Roy Orbison and, in the mid-1950s, Phillips and Elvis Presley.

Also, don't forget a certain jazz musician ( Jobim wasn't it?) that went to South America and incorporated the kick into music in the U.S. That along with a back beat was VERY instrumental in rock drumming.


Don't forget, "The Fat Man" (1949) by Antoine "Fats" Domino. It certainly sounded like a new kind of boogie coming from that New Orleans musician.

Last Edited by Winningjob on 02/11/2010 11:44 PM
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pinetop smith 1928 dance

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02/11/2010 11:52 PM
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Re: Did this woman invent Rock n Roll?
While she undoubtedly played an important roll, it is the
song "Saturday Night Fish Fry" that is regarded as the birth
song of Rock and Roll. Mainly the 1949 recording done by
Louis Jordan and His Tympany Five.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
There are links at the bottom of that Wiki to the lyrics
and an mp3 of the song.

Of course, Elvis played the most important part by making
it "ok" to listen to black music, as long as a white person
performed it.

To this day many of the pioneers of Rock and Roll, mainly
blues musicians from the 30s, 40s, and 50s who's lyrics
saw their way into Led Zeppelin and ZZ Top songs have almost
never received the credit they are due.
 Quoting: DrPostman





[link to www.youtube.com]
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02/12/2010 12:18 AM
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Re: Did this woman invent Rock n Roll?
Attitude... feeling... just plain ol' enjoyment in diggin the beat and making the sounds......
From the 1940s check out bassist Frank DeNunzio Sr. At about 1:10 into the video he kicks out the jams. Early rock, thrash.... call it what you like. Bass theory 101.
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In my quest to find the roots of Rock n Roll I came across Sister Rosetta Tharpe, a gospel singer & guitar player. I've looked into Robert Johnson and other great blues players, but this woman shreds the guitar ( Elvis, Jerry Lee and others were big fans of hers) Be sure to watch at 1:30 into the vid to see her tear that axe up!
 Quoting: mathetes



bump
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For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

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