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If the Bible were not inspired of God, how could it survives hundreds of years of attempts to destroy it?

 
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Re: If the Bible were not inspired of God, how could it survives hundreds of years of attempts to destroy it?
The same way feudalism has. Or Monarchy. Or Despotism. Or democracy.
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It was destroyed mostly when King James the pedo got hold of it and finished off for good when CT Russel the Mason got hold of what was left.
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The King James matched right up with the Geneva Bible and the other predecessors? Where in the world did you come up with those wild claims?
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"For the word of God is alive and exerts power..."-Hebrews 4:12


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No ones tried to destroy it. IN fact that have USED it as a tool, because that's all it ever was to begin with.
It's only allowed to survive because the weak of mind believe in it, and don't realize it's a tool for those who are smarter than the masses. It's all fairy tales, make believe, and story time. Those who believe in it, are not capable of critical thinking, so they rely on it to help make up their minds. This is how it's survived, it's a tool for controlling the masses. And yet, you brag about it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73740180


It was used as a tool to control the masses by the Churches, by keeping it from the common people. It was kept in Latin so the common people could not read it.
When individual such as William Tyndale, read it and could not correlate what it said with the teachings of the Clergy, he made attempts to translate it from Latin into English
Thus exposing to the common people such unscriptural teachings such as the Trinity, Immortality of the human soul, and the Hellfire doctrine, just to mention a few.
William Tyndale was only one of many who loved God's word and wanted people to understand it, and they risked their lives to make it available to people, (these are mentioned in the above video)
Men of those sort are hardly "weak of mind"
It is not the "weak" who believe the Bible and strive to apply it's principles...it is the strong, who have the courage to rise up to higher aspirations of what a human can become with the help of God's spirit and his Word, rather than follow the masses who live selfish debauched lives
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Tyndale Bible (Trinity proven):
1 In the beginnynge was the worde and the worde was with God: and the worde was God. 14 And the worde was made flesshe and dwelt amonge vs and we sawe the glory of it as the glory of the only begotten sonne of ye father

Just 1 example of several
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New World Order Bible Versions:
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"For the word of God is alive and exerts power..."-Hebrews 4:12


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It didn't and it's been adulterated.

No one knows for sure what's real or false in there by now.

There is absolutely no way of telling.

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"For the word of God is alive and exerts power..."-Hebrews 4:12


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No ones tried to destroy it. IN fact that have USED it as a tool, because that's all it ever was to begin with.
It's only allowed to survive because the weak of mind believe in it, and don't realize it's a tool for those who are smarter than the masses. It's all fairy tales, make believe, and story time. Those who believe in it, are not capable of critical thinking, so they rely on it to help make up their minds. This is how it's survived, it's a tool for controlling the masses. And yet, you brag about it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73740180


It was used as a tool to control the masses by the Churches, by keeping it from the common people. It was kept in Latin so the common people could not read it.
When individual such as William Tyndale, read it and could not correlate what it said with the teachings of the Clergy, he made attempts to translate it from Latin into English
Thus exposing to the common people such unscriptural teachings such as the Trinity, Immortality of the human soul, and the Hellfire doctrine, just to mention a few.
William Tyndale was only one of many who loved God's word and wanted people to understand it, and they risked their lives to make it available to people, (these are mentioned in the above video)
Men of those sort are hardly "weak of mind"
It is not the "weak" who believe the Bible and strive to apply it's principles...it is the strong, who have the courage to rise up to higher aspirations of what a human can become with the help of God's spirit and his Word, rather than follow the masses who live selfish debauched lives
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Immortality of the Human soul - Not biblical.
Eternal Conscious Torment - Not biblical.
So encouraging to see people refuting those idea using God's word.

Are you open to discussing/learning about Jesus claims to being God completely backed by scripture?
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Sure.....would love to see where Jesus claims being God backed by scripture
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Re: If the Bible were not inspired of God, how could it survives hundreds of years of attempts to destroy it?
The ancient Vedas far outdates the bible and has many more "originals" availabe...so did god preserve those writings too?

5000 years old...unchanged...

The hindus have a much stronger claim here.

So whos god is the real one?
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Those books were not inspired of the Creator, Jehovah God, and there was no controversy surrounding them, hence, they had no struggle to survive
Satan would only inspire persecution over the one Book that matters, God's Holy Word..which Satan hates, because it speaks truth, exposed Satan and tells of his demise
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


How do you know that, or prove it? Their claim is just as valid as yours. You see how stupid it all is. Religion is a scam. You feel hook line and sinker. Idiot.

Science and pain is all there is. Get over it.
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Religion may be a scam but the Bible is not....it's internal harmony cannot be tampered with...despite humans attempts to change it.....
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"For the word of God is alive and exerts power..."-Hebrews 4:12


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It didn't and it's been adulterated.

No one knows for sure what's real or false in there by now.

There is absolutely no way of telling.

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Do you believe the original writings were inspired of God?
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No ones tried to destroy it. IN fact that have USED it as a tool, because that's all it ever was to begin with.
It's only allowed to survive because the weak of mind believe in it, and don't realize it's a tool for those who are smarter than the masses. It's all fairy tales, make believe, and story time. Those who believe in it, are not capable of critical thinking, so they rely on it to help make up their minds. This is how it's survived, it's a tool for controlling the masses. And yet, you brag about it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73740180


It was used as a tool to control the masses by the Churches, by keeping it from the common people. It was kept in Latin so the common people could not read it.
When individual such as William Tyndale, read it and could not correlate what it said with the teachings of the Clergy, he made attempts to translate it from Latin into English
Thus exposing to the common people such unscriptural teachings such as the Trinity, Immortality of the human soul, and the Hellfire doctrine, just to mention a few.
William Tyndale was only one of many who loved God's word and wanted people to understand it, and they risked their lives to make it available to people, (these are mentioned in the above video)
Men of those sort are hardly "weak of mind"
It is not the "weak" who believe the Bible and strive to apply it's principles...it is the strong, who have the courage to rise up to higher aspirations of what a human can become with the help of God's spirit and his Word, rather than follow the masses who live selfish debauched lives
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Immortality of the Human soul - Not biblical.
Eternal Conscious Torment - Not biblical.
So encouraging to see people refuting those idea using God's word.

Are you open to discussing/learning about Jesus claims to being God completely backed by scripture?
 Quoting: B@Z


Sure.....would love to see where Jesus claims being God backed by scripture
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


What do you see when you read John 5 (specifically v15-29)?
John 6 when Jesus proclaims himself the bread of life. God alone is the creator and sustainer of all life.
John 8 read that whole chapter too...

I think one of the most stunning examples of Jesus (the Lamb of God) being revealed as God comes from Revelation.
First...read Revelation 4 to understand the nature of the living creatures and the elders and how they interact with the throne of God in heaven. Now...read Revelation 5.

I'm praying that God will open the eyes of your heart to see the glory of Christ that is revealed in his word.
For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. - 1 Cor 1:18

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Sure.....would love to see where Jesus claims being God backed by scripture
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What do you see when you read John 5 (specifically v15-29)?
John 6 when Jesus proclaims himself the bread of life. God alone is the creator and sustainer of all life.
John 8 read that whole chapter too...

I think one of the most stunning examples of Jesus (the Lamb of God) being revealed as God comes from Revelation.
First...read Revelation 4 to understand the nature of the living creatures and the elders and how they interact with the throne of God in heaven. Now...read Revelation 5.

I'm praying that God will open the eyes of your heart to see the glory of Christ that is revealed in his word.
 Quoting: B@Z


God Jehovah is the Father.

Jesus was sent by the Father and allowed Himself to be crucified per the Father's Will. He does nothing BUT the Father's Will. That is why He said "the Father and I are one".

IF Jesus WAS God there would be no reason for Him to pray to the Father or even mention Him at least 181 times in the NT

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Did Jesus say "pray to me"..."worship me"?? No, ALL of His prayers were to the "Father who sent me". He started the Lord's Prayer with "Our Father..."

Jesus prayed to the Father and also taught all who Believe to pray to the Father via the Lord's Prayer. Jesus does ONLY the Father's Will. IF Jesus WAS God there would be no reason for Him to create the Lord's Prayer, which starts out...

Matthew 6

9 In this manner, therefore, pray: Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name.

10 Your kingdom come. Your will be done On earth as it is in heaven. 11 Give us this day our daily bread. 12 And forgive us our debts, As we forgive our debtors. 13 And do not lead us into temptation, But deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen. 14 "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.


Concerning the End Times, Jesus said "only the Father knows". IF Jesus was God, He wouldn't have said...

Matthew 24:36 (ASV) But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only.

All of this arguing about definitions, titles, names etc...is just distractions away from necessary true belief.

The Holy Spirit is either sent by Jehovah Himself or at Jesus' request. It too does NOTHING but the Father's Will.

I don't understand why so many can't grasp this. This is all easily seen in the Bible.

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TLS...you replied to my post...but you didn't engage the actual content and respond. As a servant of The LORD...getting into the word of God is a privilege. I tried not to post too much content...and also just put the text out there to let it speak to you. The gospel of Christ will resonate in those who are his...praying that you will also hear him speak to you through his word.
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'cause po' people need something to make them think that this is not all there is. Btw, it is.
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'cause po' people need something to make them think that this is not all there is. Btw, it is.
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The irony is that for the majority of humanity...that will be the case.
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What star sign are you O/P. That's been around far longer.
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The Gnostics were nonviolent and they never killed or tortured people to enforce their religion, unlike Christians.

And their religion died out almost completely. Most people have never even heard of Gnosticism.

Violence is a large part of why the Bible is so popular.
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Gnostic is a modern umbrella term, there's no "the" gnostics.
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It was used as a tool to control the masses by the Churches, by keeping it from the common people. It was kept in Latin so the common people could not read it.
When individual such as William Tyndale, read it and could not correlate what it said with the teachings of the Clergy, he made attempts to translate it from Latin into English
Thus exposing to the common people such unscriptural teachings such as the Trinity, Immortality of the human soul, and the Hellfire doctrine, just to mention a few.
William Tyndale was only one of many who loved God's word and wanted people to understand it, and they risked their lives to make it available to people, (these are mentioned in the above video)
Men of those sort are hardly "weak of mind"
It is not the "weak" who believe the Bible and strive to apply it's principles...it is the strong, who have the courage to rise up to higher aspirations of what a human can become with the help of God's spirit and his Word, rather than follow the masses who live selfish debauched lives
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Immortality of the Human soul - Not biblical.
Eternal Conscious Torment - Not biblical.
So encouraging to see people refuting those idea using God's word.

Are you open to discussing/learning about Jesus claims to being God completely backed by scripture?
 Quoting: B@Z


Sure.....would love to see where Jesus claims being God backed by scripture
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


What do you see when you read John 5 (specifically v15-29)?
John 6 when Jesus proclaims himself the bread of life. God alone is the creator and sustainer of all life.
John 8 read that whole chapter too...

I think one of the most stunning examples of Jesus (the Lamb of God) being revealed as God comes from Revelation.
First...read Revelation 4 to understand the nature of the living creatures and the elders and how they interact with the throne of God in heaven. Now...read Revelation 5.

I'm praying that God will open the eyes of your heart to see the glory of Christ that is revealed in his word.
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Don't pray for other's eyes to open when you're the olne believing in lies. John 5 also says Jesus did not possess life in himself, but was granted so by his and our God.

For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself. John 5:26

You're disproved by your own argument.
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The ancient Vedas far outdates the bible and has many more "originals" availabe...so did god preserve those writings too?

5000 years old...unchanged...

The hindus have a much stronger claim here.

So whos god is the real one?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73949169


Those books were not inspired of the Creator, Jehovah God, and there was no controversy surrounding them, hence, they had no struggle to survive
Satan would only inspire persecution over the one Book that matters, God's Holy Word..which Satan hates, because it speaks truth, exposed Satan and tells of his demise
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


How do you know that, or prove it? Their claim is just as valid as yours. You see how stupid it all is. Religion is a scam. You feel hook line and sinker. Idiot.

Science and pain is all there is. Get over it.
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Religion may be a scam but the Bible is not....it's internal harmony cannot be tampered with...despite humans attempts to change it.....
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


But this doesn't harmonize internally, thus you are disproven by your own argument. Which Bible are you referring btw, there are several different Bible canons.
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The ancient Vedas far outdates the bible and has many more "originals" availabe...so did god preserve those writings too?

5000 years old...unchanged...

The hindus have a much stronger claim here.

So whos god is the real one?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73949169


Those books were not inspired of the Creator, Jehovah God, and there was no controversy surrounding them, hence, they had no struggle to survive
Satan would only inspire persecution over the one Book that matters, God's Holy Word..which Satan hates, because it speaks truth, exposed Satan and tells of his demise
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The books were not inspired... but yours were huh. Says who exactly?
Or is that supposed to be self-evident?
Every claim you make is made by every other religion.. the original manuscripts were barely legible. Old Hebrew didn't even have consonants, so when we add consonants into translation it is highly possible to do it wrong. Face it, man decimated God's word in one way or another.

When I look to the bible now I see a complete misinterpretation of the idea that we ought not to polarize ourselves in terms of good and evil.
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When the Bible is fairly and honestly examined, it's integrity in evident in all aspects, historical, scientific, flawless principles, an internal theme that cannot be tampered with and most of all, fullfilled prophecy in exact detail
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How can you claim that when most OT references in the NT are inaccurate?
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Immortality of the Human soul - Not biblical.
Eternal Conscious Torment - Not biblical.
So encouraging to see people refuting those idea using God's word.

Are you open to discussing/learning about Jesus claims to being God completely backed by scripture?
 Quoting: B@Z


Sure.....would love to see where Jesus claims being God backed by scripture
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


What do you see when you read John 5 (specifically v15-29)?
John 6 when Jesus proclaims himself the bread of life. God alone is the creator and sustainer of all life.
John 8 read that whole chapter too...

I think one of the most stunning examples of Jesus (the Lamb of God) being revealed as God comes from Revelation.
First...read Revelation 4 to understand the nature of the living creatures and the elders and how they interact with the throne of God in heaven. Now...read Revelation 5.

I'm praying that God will open the eyes of your heart to see the glory of Christ that is revealed in his word.
 Quoting: B@Z


Don't pray for other's eyes to open when you're the olne believing in lies. John 5 also says Jesus did not possess life in himself, but was granted so by his and our God.

For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself. John 5:26

You're disproved by your own argument.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73836778


Let's let the book of John interpret the book of John.

Jesus the Son of God became a human (though he existed before his incarnation into flesh as the Word who existed with God before creation and was God) and was given spirit/breath/life from God as all humans are. That is not a contradiction and the argument is not disproven. Do you accept the authority of the bible as the source for knowing God? CelestialMaiden and TheLordsServant do claim that...that is why I am engaging them about this topic.
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Actually, it was destroyed in 325 AD.
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You may want to invest a bit of time to watch the posted video, it is quite interesting and shows God's word is very much alive today
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Not interested in videos. I actually study the Bible. I found the hidden meanings, and the mystery revealed. Not that it matters, lol.

peace
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"Not that it matters", you obviously wasted your time and God's
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Actually, it was destroyed in 325 AD.
 Quoting: Bible Reader 52588730


You may want to invest a bit of time to watch the posted video, it is quite interesting and shows God's word is very much alive today
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Not interested in videos. I actually study the Bible. I found the hidden meanings, and the mystery revealed. Not that it matters, lol.

peace
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"Not that it matters", you obviously wasted your time and God's
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Still can't identify the Great Crowd?
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Not only that , but does so many not want us to read itgrouphug
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TLS...you replied to my post...but you didn't engage the actual content and respond. As a servant of The LORD...getting into the word of God is a privilege. I tried not to post too much content...and also just put the text out there to let it speak to you. The gospel of Christ will resonate in those who are his...praying that you will also hear him speak to you through his word.
 Quoting: B@Z


I don't question Jesus' deity. He was sent by the Father.

He is the Son of God. Jesus states this multiple times.

I'm refuting the claim that Jesus IS God Himself, which is based on conclusions derived from assumptions.

Matthew 20

22 But Jesus answered and said, "You do not know what you ask. Are you able to drink the cup that I am about to drink, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?" They said to Him, "We are able."

23 So He said to them, "You will indeed drink My cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with; but to sit on My right hand and on My left is not Mine to give, but it is for those for whom it is prepared by My Father."

Matthew 25

34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, 'Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

Your reference to Revelation 5 is telling, as it shows that the Lamb (Jesus) is the only one who can open the scroll with the seven seals. It ALSO shows that Jesus is NOT the Father, who is sitting on the throne in heaven. And Jesus CLEARLY takes the scroll from the Father!

Revelation 5:1-7


1 And I saw in the right hand of Him who sat on the throne a scroll written inside and on the back, sealed with seven seals.

2 Then I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, "Who is worthy to open the scroll and to loose its seals?" 3 And no one in heaven or on the earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll, or to look at it.

4 So I wept much, because no one was found worthy to open and read the scroll, or to look at it. 5 But one of the elders said to me, "Do not weep. Behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has prevailed to open the scroll and to loose its seven seals."

6 And I looked, and behold, in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as though it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent out into all the earth.

7 Then He came and took the scroll out of the right hand of Him who sat on the throne.


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Re: If the Bible were not inspired of God, how could it survives hundreds of years of attempts to destroy it?
Because even though stupidity is easily recognized, it's hard to weed out. That's why.
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Re: If the Bible were not inspired of God, how could it survives hundreds of years of attempts to destroy it?
Oh easy.. it's a PR masterpiece... like the Mona Lisa....
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Re: If the Bible were not inspired of God, how could it survives hundreds of years of attempts to destroy it?
TLS...you replied to my post...but you didn't engage the actual content and respond. As a servant of The LORD...getting into the word of God is a privilege. I tried not to post too much content...and also just put the text out there to let it speak to you. The gospel of Christ will resonate in those who are his...praying that you will also hear him speak to you through his word.
 Quoting: B@Z


I don't question Jesus' deity. He was sent by the Father.

He is the Son of God. Jesus states this multiple times.

I'm refuting the claim that Jesus IS God Himself, which is based on conclusions derived from assumptions.

Matthew 20

22 But Jesus answered and said, "You do not know what you ask. Are you able to drink the cup that I am about to drink, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?" They said to Him, "We are able."

23 So He said to them, "You will indeed drink My cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with; but to sit on My right hand and on My left is not Mine to give, but it is for those for whom it is prepared by My Father."

Matthew 25

34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, 'Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

Your reference to Revelation 5 is telling, as it shows that the Lamb (Jesus) is the only one who can open the scroll with the seven seals. It ALSO shows that Jesus is NOT the Father, who is sitting on the throne in heaven. And Jesus CLEARLY takes the scroll from the Father!

Revelation 5:1-7


1 And I saw in the right hand of Him who sat on the throne a scroll written inside and on the back, sealed with seven seals.

2 Then I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, "Who is worthy to open the scroll and to loose its seals?" 3 And no one in heaven or on the earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll, or to look at it.

4 So I wept much, because no one was found worthy to open and read the scroll, or to look at it. 5 But one of the elders said to me, "Do not weep. Behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has prevailed to open the scroll and to loose its seven seals."

6 And I looked, and behold, in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as though it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent out into all the earth.

7 Then He came and took the scroll out of the right hand of Him who sat on the throne.

 Quoting: TheLordsServant


No. Jesus simply said he was the son of the Father....

Barabbas in Hebrew....
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Re: If the Bible were not inspired of God, how could it survives hundreds of years of attempts to destroy it?
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It was used as a tool to control the masses by the Churches, by keeping it from the common people. It was kept in Latin so the common people could not read it.
When individual such as William Tyndale, read it and could not correlate what it said with the teachings of the Clergy, he made attempts to translate it from Latin into English
Thus exposing to the common people such unscriptural teachings such as the Trinity, Immortality of the human soul, and the Hellfire doctrine, just to mention a few.
William Tyndale was only one of many who loved God's word and wanted people to understand it, and they risked their lives to make it available to people, (these are mentioned in the above video)
Men of those sort are hardly "weak of mind"
It is not the "weak" who believe the Bible and strive to apply it's principles...it is the strong, who have the courage to rise up to higher aspirations of what a human can become with the help of God's spirit and his Word, rather than follow the masses who live selfish debauched lives
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Immortality of the Human soul - Not biblical.
Eternal Conscious Torment - Not biblical.
So encouraging to see people refuting those idea using God's word.

Are you open to discussing/learning about Jesus claims to being God completely backed by scripture?
 Quoting: B@Z


Sure.....would love to see where Jesus claims being God backed by scripture
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


What do you see when you read John 5 (specifically v15-29)?
John 6 when Jesus proclaims himself the bread of life. God alone is the creator and sustainer of all life.
John 8 read that whole chapter too...

I think one of the most stunning examples of Jesus (the Lamb of God) being revealed as God comes from Revelation.
First...read Revelation 4 to understand the nature of the living creatures and the elders and how they interact with the throne of God in heaven. Now...read Revelation 5.

I'm praying that God will open the eyes of your heart to see the glory of Christ that is revealed in his word.
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The authority Christ has, has been GIVEN him

" And Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things"- Matthew 28:18-20





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