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California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severly Damaged/Eroded.

 
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Unfortunately in the longer range, there seems to be several more Atmospheric River storms coming straight from Hawaii. It can still change, but this seems like it could get violent throughout the whole state of these longer range models hold.
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The simple fact is....

Central and Northern Ca. is completely saturated with 200%+ above normal rainfall, levee's are strained, reservoirs are near capacity, and this could be just the beginning of a long line of failures on an over-stressed system and we're only half way thru winter with a long range forecast showing more of the same....

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next storm

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Note for those coming late to this thread ... this is the HIGHEST DAM IN THE US at 770'!! Taller than Hoover Dam (by 44'). It is a Rock Filled Dam, NOT a concrete dam. It holds back the second largest lake in California.

The problem is that the Spillway off to the side started to disintegrate yesterday as they were raising the release level of water from the dam
so as to make room for the water that would be coming into the Lake over the next 4-5 days from the intense incoming storms.

The water release rate was approximately at 60,000 CFS at the time of the disintegration of the Spillway (scheduled to go to 70,000 CFS). That Spillway is currently completely shut down. The damage area is approximately 180' wide by about 230' long per the news conference. Per other reports the erosion UNDER the spillway has in places gone to 30' deep.

Currently the ONLY water being released is the water going through the generator turbines (only 1 of 2 penstocks were in operation yesterday) and that has only been about 5100 CFS. They are attempting to get the other penstock operational for today (is was closed off for maintenance) and with that operational they believe that they can raise the amount of water going through the generator plant to 15,000 CFS.

Per the news conference last night (link is above on this thread) they will finally get to inspect the spillway today once it is light. Until that is done (as of the time of the news conference) they have no repair plan yet devised. They did state that they WOULD release through the damaged Spillway, if needed (ie: to prevent the dam from being overtopped I would assume since that would cause even more erosion into the spillway bed).

The "FULL" level for the lake, ie: filled to Full Flood Level (about 50' above desired pool level), is 900'. Wikipedia puts the absolute top at 935', but that would have to be the overtop level of the dam structure itself.



5 AM PST data for Oroville Lake/Dam

Water Level: 864.54
Water Flow IN (hour before): 74,679 CFS
Water Flow OUT (hour before): 5,069 CFS

Water coming into the lake has dropped since yesterday AM when it was close to 130,000 CFS .... but NEW STORMS with heavy rain are headed towards the watershed area.
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The Spillway, not the Damn has suffered major Daage due to unexpected erosion. The flows have currently been halted. That is all the info I have read so far.


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5-10 inches of rain the next 72 hours

[link to www.atmos.washington.edu]

Juicy juicy storm....

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Perhaps the emergency spillway will be tested for the first time ever.....

Good luck!
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This thread should stay pinned through Saturday morning...
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I live within 15 miles of the reservoir, and it has been raining hard again for the past 8 hrs or so...and it is only going to get stronger...
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Please get this pinned, I am trying to follow this story and it takes me forever to find the thread.

Thanks!
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Islam is not a religion of peace.

Manade global warming is a hoax.

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Illegal immigration causes more problems than it solves.

Obamacare is a disaster.

Capitalism has brought more people out of poverty than any economic system in the history of the world.

ALL LIVES MATTER!

Liberalism is a mental disorder.
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I live within 15 miles of the reservoir, and it has been raining hard again for the past 8 hrs or so...and it is only going to get stronger...
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Now it is coming down in buckets....
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Is there a live feed?
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Is there a live feed?
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None that I can see.
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It's already raining hard here, but nothing compared to what's in store for tomorrow...

Another 'Atmospheric River'...

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Inspection photos. Open it up and rip it up. They can rebuild this summer.
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Just getting a blank screen. What's it about?
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Here in Red Bluff the river has stayed steady over night. I know the Geo locater says I'm in Canada, but I'm in Red Bluff near I-5.
We watched it over night and it seems stable.

Stay safe OP and all of you south of me.
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Inspection photos. Open it up and rip it up. They can rebuild this summer.
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Great pics! Thanks!
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Inspection photos. Open it up and rip it up. They can rebuild this summer.
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Great pics! Thanks!
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I have worked on several Hydro Power projects. The operators hate to spill water for this reason. It tears up the spillway.
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Inspection photos. Open it up and rip it up. They can rebuild this summer.
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Great pics! Thanks!
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I have worked on several Hydro Power projects. The operators hate to spill water for this reason. It tears up the spillway.
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Would using the damaged spillway risk eroding the entire structure?
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Inspection photos. Open it up and rip it up. They can rebuild this summer.
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Great pics! Thanks!
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I have worked on several Hydro Power projects. The operators hate to spill water for this reason. It tears up the spillway.
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Would using the damaged spillway risk eroding the entire structure?
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I'm not an expert on this subject but take a look at picture #8. The damage appears to be close to the end of the spillway. If the water level continues to rise, they will have to control the spill. Shutdown and inspect. They will repeat this process until the situation is stabilized or failure is anticipated.
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THIS thread should be pinned...not that other one...the crazy guy with all caps...


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